Why Jurgen Klopp Is Burnt-Out.
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In modern media stakes are high and online toxicity waits for you at the slightest slip
I heard people saying Klopp and Arteta out online after the matches during the weekend. They are so ungrateful. Klopp ended Liverpool’s 33 year wait for a League Title and made them a title challenger along with qualifying for Europe each season. Arteta took Arsenal from 8th to 2nd over the course of 3 seasons and ended their 14 year wait of a UCL quarter final. These people only know to criticise even when they have not achieved much and never done anything significant in their life. It’s getting sad. I am a coach and when we lost a final on penalties people were coming to fight with me even though my team had never played in a final before.
@@NorthLondonForeverCOYG that's just the sad banterlords of the internet. I think reasonable people are more based with their assessments of things. It's just the sheer mass of internet trolls and bad actors that drown out sensibility.
Like Gerrard?
Literally every fan has a voice in social media and that is a problem, because most of us are not the most sympathetic, fully mature people, we react like children with emotional screams to pain that we perceive from our team not living up to our expectations, some of us are 12 and younger and that reaction is fine at that age, but we see 30-40-50 year olds on social media melting down after a draw away...so it would seem normal for us to do the same. We need to start to relax and really take time before we start screaming on the internet about things we didnt fully processed or understood.
Which is why we also need to learn to ignore all that noise. We can choose to block out all that noise and if not, we can just step away from social media. People can have their say but that doesn’t mean we have to listen. A lesson from Keanu, is that even if they are absolutely wrong about something, we can choose to not engage them.
After the loss to Villa on sunday I saw ppl saying "Arteta out" like we'd just been mathematically eliminated from UCL qualification w/ 6 games to go. No, we did lose the game but all it takes is for City to draw one match and hopefully we'd go back top.
Very well said, mate!
@@leandrowngo Absolutely agree!
Arsenalfantv started this trend. Now, these fans thinks they know more than the coaches and players
Thing with Klopp is as he has said himself, he's all in compared to most managers. Besides Moyes I have never seen another manager spend 30 mins on the pitch during warm ups before games. Klopp also comes out of the team hotel and signs stuff for fans before games, he used to spend about an hour after games signing stuff, he has up to 20 interviews and a press conference after games, then he would come out by the Shankly gates and it would be after midnight when he was meeting fans after night games patiently posing for selfies. After covid he stopped and the staff park under the stadium now anyway, but he is a 7am - 7pm manager who rarely gets a day off. The liason guy at Liverpool said he never switches off, even during international breaks he has his phone on throughout the night asking his players to let him know they're ok in different time zones. This guy said Klopp's work ethic is off the scale and he gets very little sleep. Eddie Howe is another who is supposed to work very long days, he's a bit younger though.
With Kloppp it also has to be considered that he is the type of manager adn the type of person that have never taken easy jobs with guaranteed succsess and spending power that outmathces all of your competitors. Every club he has managed - Mainz, Dortmund and Liverpool were all projects that required long term comittment and patience to build something lasting. And Klopp probably is the type of person to like that sort of challenge but it also is extra draining in an already energy-draining job. And on top of that he is someone who forms close personal relationships with the city, fans and players. To give that much of yourself to your job for almost three decades, on top of the fact that you are often in a position where you have to recreate something new from square one from a footballing perspective and reach the same succsess, has to evenutally take it´s toll no matter how much you love it.
He joins those clubs so he always have an excuse when he fails.
Never critices the owners when they are soending less money after winning UCL and league than the clubs who didn't even get UCL momey and are smaller than Liverpool.
Just lame excuses for failures. He didnt even make top 4. Newcastle made top 4 with less money and new manger.
Just lame excuses.
@senti2175 you've contradicted yourself there. He has excuses but he also doesn't complain enough when the owners don't spend. He also didn't make top 4 the season after his team played every single football match they could of possibly played.
And after all the pressures that the OP mentions, he then needs enough energy left to bully journalists after every disappointing result. It has to be tiring.
@@tomwilson5108 he complains about other clubs spending money but doesn't points fingers at FSG because he is a lapdog.
Liverpool problem was never about not having money. Its not spending the money they have and get away with it because Klopps their b1tch.
@@senti2175 Liverpool not making top 4 last season was probably at least in part down to him being someone who gets very attached to his players resulting in keeping them around longer than is good for the players or the club and him having the power to act on his willingness to do that. He had already proven that you dont need to cheat like man City to win trophies. Call it an excuse if you want. but the mistake on the owners part had nothing to do with spending and more to do with allowing Klopp to get involved with recruitment.
Sensational production on this one Jimbo. The channel is blossoming.
One of the best videos to come from this channel production wise and content wise. Sports psychology combined integrated with data and professional opinions. Jim is class
I see you Phil. An OG of the highest order. ❤️ I hope we get to catch up soon
He’s burnt out because the PL are doing nothing about Citeh’s grotesque levels of spending.
What about United’s spending or Chelsea’s? It’s not the spending it’s the manager. Pep has broken him.
I've genuinely experienced this lack of energy on Football Manager. Took Barnsley to the Prem, financial struggles, had to sell my best players for a few seasons until we started regularly getting top 4. Eventually pipped City to the league title with Thiago Almada running the show. But then lost 2 champions league finals in a row and still couldn't get financial backing from the board. Didn't have the energy to go again. Took a sabbatical travelling around the world watching random games in Europe and South America. This was in 2021/22. FM never been the same since.
touch grass niqqa
@@tonyg7990 have been ever since
That second CL final was a farce. You guys would have won it easily if the ref hadn't been on the opposition's payroll. Don't let it stop you from getting back into it
You poor thing. Computer game of exactly the same as real life.
Lack of energy was probably cos you needed to go to bed as opposed to staying up till 4am shouting at players on the pitch to work harder
Great vid Jim! As football fans we need to remember how tough these guys have it mentally
Love the video mate!
Insightful and a great watch
The harsh reality of aging…
Lmao was hoping this was top comment
surprised Pep's break (before he went to Bayern) wasn't highlighted
Great vid Jim. Learned a lot about intrinsic/extrinsic motivation during my last year at uni (doing maths weirdly - did a module on maths education), at the time I did a lot of thinking about how it could relate to coaching players and managing so this was super interesting!
klopp looks younger than he did like 10 years ago. dude has spent a LOT of money on that face
and teeth
This is brilliant James, thank you, so interesting!
James, this is a good one for sure. I wish I was in this line of work. You're absolutely killing it. JLA Unite
Another great vid, as always. Thanks for your content!
this and the panick vide... really like these
the intro gave a real “the last dance” theme to it
Lets be honest here...Klopp running out of energy is a coy euphuism for Pep & City are sucking the life out of me.
Hey James, I've been a follower of your Channel for years now and I must say this is probably my fav video of all time, amazing insight 🙌
You could really tell that poor Jurgen has ran out of energy when he didn't even berate and demean journalists after the Atalanta game.
You should petition UEFA to have the Europa League renamed the “berate and demean journalists” cup if that concerns you so much.
@@MikeL-7 Eh?
when you realize many people were working at our club quitting jobs unexpectedly from Michael Edward to whoever I can't remember names, and then started coming back after Klopp announced he's leaving.., you know that something is wrong behind the scenes.
Brilliant video James
Reasons why Klopp is burnt out and leaving:
1) Lack of FSG backing.
2) He can’t keep the squad fit for more than 2 seasons.
3) He knows nothing will happen to 115 FC.
4) Darwin Nunez disaster signing 😭 No coincidence that Klopp is leaving in Nunez's second season.
2 things:
First, too many games. Too many trophies you need to win. Experience in a football match is an extreme condition and it could bring either joy or stress. Both are not good in a long time and could become chronic.
Second, player power. It's different to SAF's time. SAF has total control over players and in a team with big, complex egos like Paul Scholes, Giggs etc.. The manager still maintained his power. Look at Manutd now, average players like Rashford & Garnacho can express their distrust with EtH. It's an absolute shamble because sacking a manager is easier & less costly than selling a player.
I’ve been waiting to have a real mature conversation about this topic without the dismissive/ “ratio” mentality of Football Twitter.
This is a brilliant outlook into what could possibly be going on with Klopp & I’d love to see more videos like it. ❤
I like the new theme of sports psychology on this channel…takes me back to gcse pe
In brazil we fire our managers basically for any reason, my team fired 4 managers in 3 months kk football is just crazy area to work
His first appearance on MNF appeared on TH-cam just recently. I couldn't believe how young he looked..
Fame,success comes with a price plus your managerial staff's, Media.
Love these kinds of videos! Only Forwards 🐌
Actually criminal this doesn’t have more attention.
I mean, just look at how we play FM ourselves. We stop playing after a few seasons cause the buzz goes and it becomes.a chore.
They’re gonna get mad over this one but you’re obviously 100% right
Random one James, but are we ever gonna see a QPR FM save again with you and an assistant? That literally used to get me through the lockdowns.
To be a top manager, you almost have to have a screw loose somewhat. I feel the managers at the top level don't place much value on a 'normal' life. I feel Klopp is the most normal in that sense. A quote from Klopp 'I collect relationships, not trophies' which perfectly sums him up. Outside of football and being a manager, Klopp can be this normal person with a normal life, which can't be said for most managers. They'd be lost without the game.
What a load of bollocks lool
@@MJGLove explain how
Imagine taking a club that is in the trenches, being at one of its lowest places in all of that clubs history, and you succesfully turn them into world beaters with a hyper intense style of football. This would be the achievement of a lifetime, you've built a dynasty at a club that was so desperate for success. However, you're met with an opponent on financial steroids that just doesnt fall off due to their immense depth. Ofcourse its disheartening, it took an ungodly run of 26 or so unbeaten games with only 1 draw to win the league from that sky blue behemoth, and on two other record breaking occasions youre left in 2nd place with 1 point difference, probably knowing full-well that in a fair world you'd have dominated that league. I'd be depressed too.
Well said. Klopp deserved more and Guardiola has now turned the Premier League into the new bundesliga where the champions are decided before the season begins
Even at the lower levels its stressful, trust me. I feel like I aged twice as fast when managing.
It’s thankless for most and some get away with murder
Crash. Bang. Wallop. What a video!
1:33 seems like Jimbo may be a secret One Piece fan
This is a brilliant video and take Jim
Very Vox editing style
This type of format is like the VOX of football, which is such a high compliment
Great video.
Like someone isn't going to age in almost 9 years? 😂😂
Now i understand why sir alex answers most reporters by saying he gives zero fucks
Arteta will experience this same feeling if Pep & City are allowed to escape charges but also spend more. U literally cant compete here no matter how much ever you motivate.
I'm so ready for someone to fund a series of feature-length docs, including high-level interviews spearheaded by JLA
Being a English premier league manager can be summed up in one single phrase. “Dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t.”
I still believe SAF was lucky to took over utd in the 80’s not now. Imagine going 7 seasons without a league title at at a top club nowadays he’d be sacked way before his 7th season
love to hear you speak james, love from maryland USA
I wouldn't consider Ange as 'vulnerable' or 'emotionally intelligent' he is a proper old school general type of leader.
There's a reason why Ange has been able to be a manager for decades
TBH im not sure why any one would want to become a football manager. Cant imagine a harder job especially when things are not going well.
Klopp methodical preparations for games is not good.
Good question 3rd title race Liverpool needed to play 3 oppenents in one match onfield refs, oppenents and VAR its cost 3 titles
You're absolutely right. Even before VAR, Arsenal's trophyless period was marred by some bad and sentimental decisions from the Refs.
Forgive me for not really understanding the point. Basically “life is hard” ?
Nah james is DIFFERENT
Ocean… I have no idea what those words mean 😂
Fixtures aren't the same anymore since the pandemic . It's got to get back to normal again . Teams in Europe have to play lots of game in a short time
I don't blame him for wanting fresh pastures
Probably my favourite video of yours, great job lad
Really good insightful video Jim loved it
This is all a bit over the top. It isn’t like Klopp has burnt out in a couple of years. Nine years in the job. I don’t have the stats to hand but I bet very few PL managers have gone on for so long.
You wanna be a manager?
Come to Spurs!!
We'll subject you to all the pain and non of the gains of the managerial position. In fact if you get close to winning something, we'll just sack you because glory and success is not what we want here.
The money you'll undoubtedly request for transfers, we'll will gladly give to you as you depart. Oh, and one more thing everyone who leaves our sad excuse of a football club are always guaranteed to success at their next job. It never fails... except maybe once 😅
Best regards
Denial Levy
Great vid, just a punt that ocean is an acronym not an abbreviation - you're not the first to make this confusion
Oh
heartbreaking. the stress of football management made klopp lose his glasses.
You can really see the demographics of football fans. Reasonable fans watch JLA. The usual football fan would never watch JLA because it's not extreme/controversial/reactionary with lots of shouting
He needs to go to a new project in Germany
Klopp is frustrated that FSG has not backed him with proper resources while City has been backed by infinite resources and the same could be said Chelsea albeit with different results. I must say Klopp never took on an easy team to begin with, he started his career in Mainz while Pep started at Barcelona and only coached Bayern after a fresh treble wins with Heynckes before settling in City. Pep is definitely an overrated manager the best managers in my opinion would be Ancelotti, Zidane, Mourinho and Klopp.
Even the genius of Klopp can't beat the financial cheating juggernaut of that which is Man City. He could only do so much.
Watched until finish. Still doesn't answer the question on its title.
Klopp is dealing with 115
So Klopp didn't even make it to 4th place because of City? Barely making top 4 let alone challenge for the title multiple times because of City?
Never beat Real Madrid because of City? Lost to Atalanta at home 3-0 because of City?
Just bunch of pathetic lame excuses for being a failure.
@@senti2175 who said anything about City? i
@@kukunase1686 mutant aren't ya?
Ahhh poor Klopp has the pressure of winning football games on his soldiers if only only he was working pay check to pay check with 4 kids ,a wife and a mortgage to pay off with no time off. But poor Klopp has to talk to media at least 4 times a week that must be so stressful and having to be charismatic so that no one really cares thst he is just nearly man and not really successful and hsving to get his teeth done. 😂😂 C'mon a managers job is not hard! Tgey have to pick a team twice a week and have a massive team of people that do most of the work the manager is just the face like in politics,long gone are the days of when Ferguson and Wenger who overran everything and Ferguson embraced that change delegating everything aoart from picking team, signings and media in his last ten years
Bro thought he was onto something
This is a well educated and enlightened content. Well done James
So many comments and replies are spot on.
The "watch along" streams that are always criticising everything and everyone even if the team won at times, the podcasts, the needless interviews (though I'm an Arsenal fan but I really pray that Man United's players and her present manager will stop this asap)
Ten Haag is a good coach, we saw that at Ajax and his first season in Man United. Even presently he's constantly competing pretty well in most competitions. But so many noises from him and his players. Arteta, Pep Guardiola, Wenger (when he was my manager) and some other managers absorb all the blames in public and they will scold the players privately and we don't hear anything from either the players or their managers. A perfect illustration of this can be seen in all or nothing program of Arsenal in season 2021/2022.
Mourinho was/is constantly shunning some interviewers and sometimes walking away!)
To add to this. In Medical psychology, this content affects everybody and we should constantly evaluate ourselves and once we notice symptoms of demotivation, depression (can be detected by "losing interest in pleasurable activities", "prefers staying alone" , sudden and prolonged lost of appetite) and burnout (fatigue, tired physically and emotionally), please visit a Psychologist as soon as possible.
I’m sorry. He’s paid 17-18 m per year, the third highest paid manager in the world. That’s a very well paid job that many young and coming managers are longing for. If we as normal working-class people are being scrutinised for our work and are one major mistake from losing our job, why would Klopp be immune from us? You could ask any CEOs for a Fortune 500 company and they would tell you exactly the same situation.
You sound like someone who haven’t worked for a real workplace and sit inside your room doing TH-cam videos. Get real. Let’s not paint Klopp as a victim of his own failures as though the “pressure” is unique to him. He quits because he made a ton of mistakes on player transfers over the past two seasons because he thought he can do a good job without Michael Edward’s. In reality, he failed miserably.
A whole load of psychobabble especially that OCEAN thing.
What's wrong with that fella with the beard? Why os he acting and speaking like a james bond villain and way over thinking a managers job 😂 i guarantee managers would watch this and laugh
I don't collect Trophies, I collect Relationships!
He was not burnt out, he was pushed out!
You dont collect trophies if you dont collect relationships. But if you want to use his words against him that's up to you. Just dont wish for klopp to come back when the next manager does not get you the trophies you value so such.
@@redmed10 His defensive record has not been great. We ill be fine without him!
2015-2016 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 16-12-10, 60 points (1.58 per game), 8th in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 63 (1.66 per game), Goals Against: 50 (1.32 per game), Diff: 13
2016-2017 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 22-10-6, 76 points (2.00 per game), 4th in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 78 (2.05 per game), Goals Against: 42 (1.11 per game), Diff: 36
2017-2018 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 21-12-5, 75 points (1.97 per game), 4th in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 84 (2.21 per game), Goals Against: 38 (1.00 per game), Diff: 46
2018-2019 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 30-7-1, 97 points (2.55 per game), 2nd in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 89 (2.34 per game), Goals Against: 22 (0.58 per game), Diff: 67
2019-2020 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 32-3-3, 99 points (2.61 per game), 1st in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 85 (2.24 per game), Goals Against: 33 (0.87 per game), Diff: 52
2020-2021 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 20-9-9, 69 points (1.82 per game), 3rd in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 68 (1.79 per game), Goals Against: 42 (1.11 per game), Diff: 26
2021-2022 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 28-8-2, 92 points (2.42 per game), 2nd in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 94 (2.47 per game), Goals Against: 26 (0.68 per game), Diff: 68
2022-2023 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 19-10-9, 67 points (1.76 per game), 5th in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 75 (1.97 per game), Goals Against: 47 (1.24 per game), Diff: 28
2023-2024 Liverpool Stats (Premier League)
Record: 21-8-3, 71 points (2.22 per game), 3rd in Premier League (1st Tier)
Goals: 72 (2.25 per game), Goals Against: 31 (0.97 per game), Diff: 41
Jurgen Flopp
Top level for years and having to compete with rule bending and owners that are okay to spend money
Ya the harsh reality of earning £20m a year to manage kids kick football around properly.
Damn, the contruction workers, rescue workers, nurses working in life and death situations daily, barely making a living wage can't imagine the harsh reality such a diffcult job 🙄
Problems in one work industry don’t invalidate problems other industries often throw at people. And way to go reducing a person’s job to just “manage kids kicking around a football”. In that way, a construction worker only has to carry bricks and logs with absolutely no stress from constant public appearances. Un empathetic jackass
Bad comparison. He is watched every minute of the day and his every word and movement is analysed to the nth degree. Doesn't happen to firemen and nurses.
@@redmed10 u must be trolling. You have to be absolute m0r0n to believe that waffle.
Someone a lil salty 😂
Players also burnt out. Klopp just being selfish here.