DIY Man Cave / She Shed - Part 4 - Making & Installing The Subframe

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  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Surely the best , fastest way to determine squareness is to measure from diagonal to diagonal, then between the other diagonal to diagonal and adjust to suit !
    As a professional woodworker this is the method I use rather than faff about with yours!!

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  ปีที่แล้ว

      It's purely personal choice. There are lots of different ways. Thanks, Des

  • @CourageousDange
    @CourageousDange 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Finally somebody with a step by step process, so I can understand how to build 1

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you. I hope it helps my friend. Stay safe and well, Des

    • @CourageousDange
      @CourageousDange 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@21stcenturycaveman33 can I ask, how much it cost to build?

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This is covered an my Q & A vids recently posted. ATB, Des

  • @christophervince8028
    @christophervince8028 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for taking the time for these videos on building a shed got to be the best detailed videos I've seen on you tube will be following you step by step on building my own using the videos you have provided so thanks once again and good look with future projects

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks so much. Very kind of you to say so. Take care, Des 👍

  • @richardnicholas8646
    @richardnicholas8646 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The old 345 we used to use this block paving and patios nice job

  • @simondann7371
    @simondann7371 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice, straight forward advice, thank you. Yours is the third video series I have watched and its been nice to see the overlap and differing methods used. Really helped me work out how to put mine up!

  • @nickyscott383
    @nickyscott383 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the family team work 👍 Your attention to detail is commendable. Keep it up and all the best....👍

  • @C4sp3r123
    @C4sp3r123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Project is coming along well. Some things you could do in future such projects is to stand the cut timber ends in an ice cream tub or similar with the creosote in to allow them to soak up into the freshly cut ends therefor treating the new fresh wood that has been exposed after cutting them. Also I think you normally see the noggins staggered so you can get screws into both ends.
    A very good TH-cam channel to follow is RR Buildings. He does very good content, his most recent video which was released yesterday shows some of the latest impact drivers being put through their paces during one of his recent builds. His channel is definitely worth a follow.
    I am looking forward to the next video to see how you progress.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you for your helpful comments. I'm not unduly concerned about the cut ends on the noggins to be honest. They won't be exposed to the elements and there'll be plenty of ventilation so the likelihood of rot will be minimal. The noggins can be fixed either way- staggered or in sequence. Staggered is probably easier. I don;t do this because I always forget and tend to miss them with screws. In - line they're easier to fix into (imo anyway lol). I will checkout the channel you mentioned. ATB, Des

    • @C4sp3r123
      @C4sp3r123 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@21stcenturycaveman33 I have never actually done noggins so I was just speaking from what I have seen elsewhere, always best to do what works best for you. I hope you enjoy the channel. His build series are really good as is his other content. If you use Instagram he does a lot on there as well which I find interesting and like to see all the different tools they get and use.

    • @freddymckeown2782
      @freddymckeown2782 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@21stcenturycaveman33 .

  • @kevracer3980
    @kevracer3980 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the video! I was going to use a concrete floor for my shed project but due to access problems, it was a big job. After watching your video, I have decided on a wooden floor, using you plan. The idea of fitting the noggins in line is one I'm definitely going to use.
    I appreciate you passing on the research information. I'm going to use all your recommendations! It will make my "shed build" a lot easier. I have watched all the shed build videos and they are very enjoyable! Great work.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are more than welcome! I wish you the very best with your new project. Best wishes, Des

  • @MarcusT86
    @MarcusT86 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos mate. I wish more channels would do full process videos like this instead of chopped up overly edited soundtrack-laden “how to’s” that don’t actually show you how to, but rather are there to self-aggrandise.
    I also love the voice over. Sounds like a nature documentary! Haha! But it actually is technically; it’s one type of animal and its family building a shelter!

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really appreciate your kind words of support and for you taking the time to watch my vids and comment. Have a great day where you are and thanks again. Des

  • @bscott77
    @bscott77 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Enjoying this, good style and explanation so looking forward to the next episodes. Nice to see you working with the family too

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thank you for taking An interest. I appreciate your support and your kind words. Des

  • @michaelkeenan2088
    @michaelkeenan2088 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Video sir. Looking to build cave/shed in 2022 so this has helped clarify what I need to do. Much appreciated

  • @jacksprat3100
    @jacksprat3100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I bought one of these same DeWalts sets last year. absolutely fantastic drills

  • @The_man_himself_67
    @The_man_himself_67 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Impact drivers all day long for me, but I do wear ear defenders. Unless your timbers are straight, I would suggest measuring corner to corner as an additional check for a square frame.

  • @ratchriat1716
    @ratchriat1716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    you doing a good job des looking forward to the next video

  • @andrewlewis4526
    @andrewlewis4526 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best videos of shed building stages I've found, top job👍

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wow, thanks! Really appreciate your kind words of support. Thank you indeed, Des

  • @ant_hart
    @ant_hart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great build but personally I would just stagger the noggins and fix through rather than inline and fix diagonally in to them...less chance of splitting and stronger overall 👍🏼 using this series to build my own thanks for taking the time to film it and explain really well

  • @jamescodling8641
    @jamescodling8641 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love it. Great voice over. Smashing chap

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you kindly. Your support is very much appreciated. Best wishes, Des

  • @ted6499
    @ted6499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a Great Chap .Really good video , well explained ..... 👍thanks

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks 👍 Really appreciate your kind feedback. Thank you. DEs

  • @weekev212
    @weekev212 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is just the best step by step process to follow for building our new shed/outdoor gym. Thank you 😊

  • @miroslawgad4269
    @miroslawgad4269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice job !

  • @colsinclair7793
    @colsinclair7793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Struggling to stay awake here. ill defo be checking in when I get round to building mine👍🏻

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go and put your head down buddy. You deserve it. Take care, Des

    • @colsinclair7793
      @colsinclair7793 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      21st Century Caveman lol will do.

  • @MeetMeOutside
    @MeetMeOutside 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice ! You can also square it up doing 6-8- 10 method,same principle just larger. Cheers

  • @ryanh3285
    @ryanh3285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good video ,dam right about the impact driver best tool i ever brought worth every penny

  • @EarlEBird-fz6yr
    @EarlEBird-fz6yr 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very informative, thanks!

  • @chrisdockerty3246
    @chrisdockerty3246 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi good advice, but if you measure from corner to corner both ways and they are equal then it is square !

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  ปีที่แล้ว

      That's very true my friend. However, it's more difficult than it sounds on a larger area when you're wrking on your own. Great point though. Thanks very much indeed. Des

  • @millin2222
    @millin2222 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very easy explained thank you.

  • @ep91monster
    @ep91monster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hello again mate. Don't know if you remember me but i gave you some tips on your bonding video.
    Couple more tips for you before you start laying the osb floor.
    Buy yourself a roll of plastic dpc and lay some ontop of those concrete blocks. It will just stop any moisture wicking up and into the bottoms of those timbers. They will be the first places to rot if you don't.
    Also, nogging wise, stagger them so you can easily screw into the ends of each one. Much quicker and simpler than driving the fixings in on a skew. We only really skew screw if we really need to.
    Also its a good idea to soak any cut ends of treated timber in the preservative for a couple hours, let it wick the preservative up into the cut ends. Do that, along with your coat of creosote and a strip of DPC ontop of the blocks, and you won't have any issues with that air gap underneath the floor 🙂

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hello there and thanks for your valuable feedback. The OSB floor has already been laid - I'm just playing catch up my friend. The strip of DPC seems to be a good idea long term. I didn't do this but I can see the merits. I understand soaking the cut ends but time is always of the essence and I'm not unduly concerned to be honest as the subframe is well ventilated and protected from the elements. By the time any potential problems manifest I'll probably pottering around with a zimmer frame and forgotten all about it. Take care mate, Des

  • @tamzy4825
    @tamzy4825 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing vid and content..just what I'm looking for had my materials delivered yesterday and was just looking for some ideas/help along the way deffo the channel for me ..respect sir ...

  • @dalebrown1328
    @dalebrown1328 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can i ask why are the concrete blocks sticking out and not flush with outside of your building. Thank you.

  • @ryanh3285
    @ryanh3285 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Forgefast torx screws are also excellent and reasonable priced.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the recommend buddy. I'm sure this will be helpful to myself and viewers. ATB, Des

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 ปีที่แล้ว

    I missed your explanation for doubling up the timbers ?

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  ปีที่แล้ว

      These will take the weight of the roof and therefore need to be stronger, Thanks, Des

  • @bluemeanie1951
    @bluemeanie1951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi I'm going to build a subframe just as you are showing but in the previous clip to this can I ask why you didn't mortar your blocks into place instead of using hardcore and would grit sand not have been better than hardcore anyway. Surely there are too many big chippings that make levelling more difficult. Thank you. Great series by the way.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Great questions buddy. No need to mortar blocks in. As settlement occurs the mortar will crack anyway so no point. You need to lay on hardcore for stability and drainage. If you simply lay on sand it will be no good due to the fact that it will shift too easily, offer no structural support and can easily move if saturated with water . Although easier for levelling thats about it. Dont do it. Best, Des

  • @hardlines2635
    @hardlines2635 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would it not be easier to stagger the cross pieces like we do in stud walls.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Purely personal choice. Makes no difference at all. ATB, Des

  • @andrewarthurmatthews6685
    @andrewarthurmatthews6685 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why did you not stagger the noggins ?

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  ปีที่แล้ว

      Hi there. I decided to do it this way instead. Either way is fine. ATB, Des

  • @daleskidmore1685
    @daleskidmore1685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My brothers in law and I recently put up a shed for the aged P. It was very flimsy and of poor quality and I didn't like it at all; although it was nice spending time with the boys. I bet that frame is heavier than the whole 6'x8' shed we put together. I know which one I would liked to have made.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hi Ade. I've checked out the typical sheds / cabins available in various retail and on-line outlets and they all appear flimsy and quite simplky not worth the money. You can't even get a half decent one for £1k these days. Although I'm not expert I know mine will be much better for a similar price and will last much longer. Take care mate, Des

    • @daleskidmore1685
      @daleskidmore1685 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Absolutely.

  • @pauldeal68
    @pauldeal68 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is the base cut exactly at 12ft long and 8ft wide

  • @pete2803
    @pete2803 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    also, you need to make sure your levels are ok or when you do fix square boards to the floor you will find your framing will be out. could quality over the top on screws but I like the quality you put into this build mate

  • @Tazul21
    @Tazul21 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    That base looks good. What's the size of it? Thanks

  • @alexandracat8754
    @alexandracat8754 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi. What drill set are you using? Thanks!

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a DeWalt combo set. Please search my vids for top power tools. Thank you, Des

  • @BobMc87
    @BobMc87 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos! I'm learning a lot. But did I miss something... in the last video the weed sheets went down, then you wheelbarrowed rubble on it, now there is grass beneath the base? Did you put turf down, or have I missed something? Again, great videos mate!

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hiya Bob. There was some grass underneath but this was soaked with weedkiller. Dealt with, Des

  • @intothemultiverse1033
    @intothemultiverse1033 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do you not need to leave a little bit of give in the frame to allow for contraction and expansion during colder and warmer months?

  • @MrAas41
    @MrAas41 ปีที่แล้ว

    One thing I wouldve done was use dpc where the timber touches the blocks

  • @Squats200
    @Squats200 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wheres the weed barrier and gravel gone?

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol. It's still there my friend. The vids were uploaded to demonstrate separate parts of the build so there was some crossover and some bits of the build were done at different times. Still there and absolutely essential to the build. Stay safe and well, Des

    • @Squats200
      @Squats200 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@21stcenturycaveman33 ah cool! 👍🏼

  • @jayluas7626
    @jayluas7626 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looking good des will it be strictly a shed or you thinking of a man cave 👍

  • @RobChew
    @RobChew 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi mate, I might’ve missed it but do you fasten the frame to the breeze blocks at some point? Or is just resting on them?

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No need my friend. No hurricanes or anything here in the UK. The weight of the structure itself is sufficient. Stay safe and well, Des

    • @solo-repair9374
      @solo-repair9374 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah no need to fasten down. The weight of the build will stop lateral movement

  • @Vjk1731
    @Vjk1731 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi des where did you get your impact combi drill set was it expensive I've seen a few in aldi workzone you reckon there any good

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi there. I purchased the set from Screwfix @ £250.00 within past 2 yrs. At the time it appeared to be good value for money. The impact driver is not essential but it is very useful when screwing long screws and also tightening nuts on bolts. It is also safer to use as it reduces injury due to the way it works. I have no experience of the Aldi power tools so unable to comment I'm afraid. Check out reviews on the net. ATB, Des

    • @benh1216
      @benh1216 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bit of an old ish comment but I stared using Erbauer (Screwfix own brand) tools within the last year or so and they are some of the best built budget tools I have used. Great build quality across their EXT 18v range.
      If you don't have the money for Dewalt (or any of the other big brands) but still want quality power tools and accessories then Erbauer is the way to go!

  • @redwing2002
    @redwing2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really helpful video. Which DeWalt impact driver are you using as it has 3 LEDs, I assume its a 887? I am about to buy one and yours seems ideal.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hiya buddy. So sorry for delay. Just had a quick look mate. Ref no. is DCF887. ATB, Des

    • @redwing2002
      @redwing2002 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@21stcenturycaveman33 Thanks for your reply, will be adding this to my Christmas list. Regards and thanks or superb videos; I will be starting a 4 sided Japanese styled summerhouse (clad in white uPVC) shortly and will adopt your methods.

  • @andybaggie69
    @andybaggie69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great step by step build. Just a quick question. I'm looking at building a bigger one (16ft x 14ft), and was just wondering would it be worth building the walls with this C24 timber?

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Hiya buddy. I don't think you need anything that big or strong but, yes, you could use it if you wanted. That should survive Armageddon easily!. Best wishes, Des

  • @djburland
    @djburland 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Damp-proof membrane would have been good.

  • @pete2803
    @pete2803 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    the best way to square to the mm is a corner to corner. 123 or456 what you like to call it is not very accurate

  • @Cookinoutdoors
    @Cookinoutdoors 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Impact drivers are not more powerful than a combi they just work in a different way, a combi has much more torque, next time you get a screw stuck that the impact won’t move get your combi on it on speed one and you will see what I mean

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Surely, if you're unable to remove a screw with an impact driver you've got no chance wirh a combi drill. Why? Because they work in different ways as you yourself have suggested. A combi drill would almost certainly end up chewing tne head off the screw because it would slip.

    • @jp6975
      @jp6975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not sure about your torque comment. I have this combi/impact set. The combi is 70nm torque and the impact is 205nm.
      It is, however, easier, to chew the screw head on a stuck screw using an impact driver without careful use of the variable speed trigger and proper pressure on the screw head.

  • @violettownmicroenterprises1528
    @violettownmicroenterprises1528 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    duh.. pre drill (atleast) the first piece so you avoid uneven jacked joints and soap up your screws while your at it, newby.

    • @21stcenturycaveman33
      @21stcenturycaveman33  2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes, you're right - we are newbies as indicated in the title 'DIY'. Fortunately, however, despite our lack of expertise the joints did not become uneven or jacked and the screws went in perfectly well without any lube. Just goes to show that you don't need to hire a so-called 'expert' and pay stupid money to do something yourself. Thanks for watching, Des