Alan wake 2 is always rt on game, the 8500g and 8600g has rt capable gpu core whereas 5600g doesn't,5600g has to fallback software rt which explains low perf similar to Rx 500 series card which don't have rt.
@@kacpermaachowski124I'm still waiting for more reviews with a dedicated GPU. This is kinda underwhelming but for an APU, it's amazingly fast! The price is kinda expensive and similar though but I hope with future benchmarks with GPUs it's better than 7000 series
*Radeon Graphics (Vega7)* ~448SP 1900MHz @DDR4 3200MHz (Native) *Radeon 740M* ~256SP 2800MHz @DDR5 6000MHz O.C. (Native 5200MHz) *Radeon 760M* ~512SP 2800MHz @DDR5 6000MHz O.C. (Native 5200MHz) In my opinion, this 5600G should have 3600 RAM to be more fair to compare.
Although DDR5 has high frequencies, its latencies are very high, which slows down communication with the CPU. DDR4, on the other hand, has low frequencies, but its low latency gives it an advantage over the high latencies of DDR5.
Great video comparison! Newegg was dumping the 5600G for $124 plus free 16GB 3200 ram recently which may come back again to make way for the 5500GT/5600GT models!
The Ryzen 5 8500G and 8600G are great products what amd does not tell you is if u ever decide to add a dedicated gpu to you build your gpu will not run at x16 pcie lanes but by x8 and even x4 depending on which one of the chips you decide to get.
@@francescobaruzzi16annifa99 a $100 cpu has no upgrade path. So even if i slapped a used rx 5700 in there with your $100 cpu, youre on a dead platform. Additionally, lets look at NEW CPUs currently. The intel i5 14600 is $209. The i5 14700 is 299. Dead sockets. Your only upgrade path would be the i7 14xxx The ryzen 5 7600 is 199. The ryzen 8600g is 229. The upgrade path on those goes up to the ryzen 9 AND at MINIMUM ryzen 9000 series but REALISTICALLY, 10000 series, potentially 11k series. Am4 had 1,2,3,4,5k series. By the same logic we should see 7,8,9,10,11, series all on am5. This is 8. So I have an upgrade path to 3 gens from now, and all the way up to the 9 tier chip. If you dont care about future proofing, yeah, go get a cheap i3 for $100 and an rx 590 or something for $230. But if you want to future proof, spend the extra $130 on a new processor that has ddr5 ram and an upgrade path
@@francescobaruzzi16annifa99 NO POINT THERE IS USING ANY GPU IN A YEAR CAN BUILD ANOTHER UNIT LOL WHY IGPU IS THE BEST BECAUSE LESS CONSUMPTION OF ELECTICity BILL in cumpute .gpu is useless w/ out cpu .. cpu w/ igpu can survive alone with less tpd consume ...thats why amd build igpu for buget gamers not for rich kid like intel doing..yeah real gpu boost performance but when you get older you know what it is hahaha 100$ -200$ can build one ryzen unit now a days..
No, both the gpu and cpu power are calculated into one you can see that both gpu and cpu have very close numbers in power. Either you look into the cpu or gpu power.
It's only up to 87w base on the video bro. Of course its gonna use a lot of power for the cpu and igpu to work. But for the performance it gives your not losing. Even a 5600g plus 1050 ti will exceed 100w for both.@@imranhq13
They're good, 8700G performance is almost same fps as GTX 1650/ 1060 gpu and 8500G is almost same fps as GTX 1050 Ti . Only one problem is, prices are high and they need to drop them prices down like minus 50-80$ which many people will allow budget to buy them. "also, how did you get your hands on a 8500G?" What do you mean? How I did bought 8500G hardware?
@@ChristoGevedjov "What do you mean? How I did bought 8500G hardware?" yeah, that's what i meant lol. but i didn't know that we could buy the 8500G now. i didn't know that the 8500G was on sale already.
@@ChristoGevedjov The only downside with going with this apu is the am5 platform cost. Especially the ram. The 5600g and 5700g benefitted from the am4 platform which is budget friendly big time.
@@zilverman7820 true. and not just the ram and the rest of the platform; it's the price of the 8700G chip itself that is a very high barrier of entry just to get such very low levels of graphics performance.
Would there have been any way to increase the power draw of the Vega 7? It was always 10-60% less than the other two, and I am wondering if that was affecting the performance
I subscribe to this channel because I can only afford to buy PC with APUs. I hope the 8700g can now play emulated games at 1080p 60fps medium to high settings.
@@halfgod Oof, in my country Rx 6600 costs 250$ and i3 1200f costs 100$ both brand new. But in most states, you can easily find Rx 6600 for 200$ brand new
@@halfgod Even a gtx 1660 super (170$) paired with an i3 1200f (100$) is better deal than R7 8700G. 8700G only makes sense in a small form factor case where you can't slot in a discrete GPU, for mainstream builds it just doesn't make sense at that absurd price.
Can you test memory scaling on the 8500G? it would be interesting to see how dual channel DDR5-4800 performs vs 5200/5600/6000 and single channel ddr5-4800/5200/5600 vs dual. Specially single channel, i know it is going to loose performance the question would be how much, this is important because if the 8500G can retain, let say, 90% of the performance with single channel DDR5-5200/5600 costs go down a lot.
И где прогресс? Учитывая насколько сильно влияет частота оперативной памяти на производительность веги, то есть вероятность того, что если бы условно ддр4 взяла на этой системе те же 6 ггц, то фпс был бы близок к уровню 8600г. Даже взять в тест 5600г с оперативкой 4ггц+, что вполне доступно, и разница не будет такой ощутимой и скорее всего выше стокового 8500г
Damn, this is way too impressive, but it seems they are power limmited in some scenarios, how much of a boost will they get with ryzen master modifications?
the lineup after these will probably be GTX 1650 Super / RX 580 level and the one after will probably be RTX 3050 - 3060 and RX 5600 XT / RX 6600 which is pretty crazy to think about
hey man thank you very much!!!! I woukd humbky ask you to compare the rx 580 2048sp vs the 8600g igpu... I want to know if it is best to buy an am4 setup with rx 580 2048sp or to go to 8600g(I know that at least alan wake 2 run on 8600g and it does not run on rx 580 2048sp) ...ah, and if possible add starfield to the list of games...
RX 580 is better than 8600G , so better buy an AM4 setup with RX 580. You still can play Alan Wake 2 with RX 580, you just need to put vulkan files and then you can play at 720p / 25-40 fps.
A used rx 5700 is $130 on ebay in america including the shipping. An RX 580 is $99 new. You can get a budget cpu to pair with the rx 5700 and that would be the price of the 8600g. $100 cpu plus $130 used rx 5700. If you go used on the cpu, you can add more money to the gpu portion and get something good for that $230 price. But you have no upgrade path.
@@ericreid8111 I live in brazil man, everything bought outside the country has an enourmous amount of taxes making it truly expensive...and buying here is also expensive...the rx 580 is the only gpu afforable per say...
@@carlosmagnomacieira8210 the 580 is a very respectable device. It will play everything just fine 1080p or 720p. Personally, 720p did us fine for so long. Ive played on 720p until like 2020
I guess problem is from bios or CPU can do only this when is with iGPU. I guess if I put GPU and disable APU in settings, then cpu speed can hit +4ghz or maximum 5ghz speed same as 8700G and 8600G..
@oGevedjov i just hope that AMD is not pulling some bullschnitzel, to pretend less watt usage or avoid competing with 8600g. Or another possibility - what if program shows only 4 c-cores, that have turbo on 3700Mhz.Coz 5000 is meant for 2 full cores.
Yo tengo un 5600g desde hace 2 años y durante la escasez de gráficas me sacó del apuro y ahora viendo el desempeño que tiene el 8600g se me hace impresionante el salto que ha tenido en rendimiento, pero sin duda alguna no volveré a comprar un APU y optaré por una gráfica dedicada
Bro i was hesitating on choosing the R5 8600G for my first every build, and i have a small budget (i mean it alr actually like 450€) and I’m planning to not buy a gpu to get to this budget, thank you know you showed me the games that i wanted to play they work perfectly fine for me Btw do you lose fps while recording ??
honestly i dont see the point of buying these apus for gaming without external gpu bcoz even without gpu the new apu based pc will cost as near as PS5 or at least xbox series S in that matter
Someone mentioned in the last video that these AMD apus are not good for prolonged gaming, that the performance drops off considerably--is that true? Can you play games on these apus for as long as you would on a system with a gpu?
They're good APUs, problem is prices are a bit too high for these cpus with APUs. I'm sure after 3-5 months prices of these cpus will drop a lot like 40-80$ down. (same happened with 5600g and 5700 were so expensive on release day 5600g was like 270$ and 5700G 370$)
Will definitely buy the 8600G once the first or second price drops occurs, probably by Black Friday of this year. The 760M isn't that much behind the 780M honestly now that I've seen some benchmarks of yours and others. Thanks for the uploads and looking forward to more!
@@b.shes.2643 I forgot to add one: About performance drops off, this is new bug. I'm sure they will release new update someday which will fix drop fps/performance. Previous video which i made 8500g vs 8600g vs 8700g, Only on 8700G power was less than 70W which was bug and gave a bit less fps only on three games Assassin creed Mirage,Starfield and RDR2... When i re-installed driver and restarted the pc, power on 8700g went back to 77-87W and gave +5 fps more on AC Mirage,Starfield and RDR2 than bug cut power. On 8500G and 8600G have no bug about this, so nothing to worry about it.
@@ChristoGevedjovI think it's the STAMP that gamernexus mentioned. It's used in handhelds to reduce the high temps but it's unnecessary for desktop. Amd said that they'll release a bios update soon
i dont think its worth the upgrade from 5xxxG 8xxxG bc of the cpu itself, is 10-20% fastest, meanwhile the gpu its the more advance upgrade here. imo is best if u have a 5xxxG gen to buy a discrete gpu like a rx6600xt o 6700 an be for the same price even better
8500g is almost the same price as 5600g, and it's clearly outperforming the heck out of 5600g. So, I'm kinda confused, as to why 5600g is more popular? Is there some benefit in buying 5600g over 8500g?
@@rami6044 I'm getting it for max $10 difference, but I heard some people saying that buying 5600g would be better (specially if you gonna get a graphics card in the future) they did not explain tho, made me even more confused.
The 5600g costs $110 here while the 8500g and 8600g costs $250 and $300 respectively, and with the price of a520m being $60 vs a620m being $120 yeah, a big nope
better to go with 8600g cheaper and almost same as 8700g and even with 1080 is good gives u enough time to grap some money to get a good mid-high gpu like 4060 to 4080 or 7600xt to 7800xt
Ryzen 8600 G for the win baby it is better then 8700 cause it's 100$cheap and its way better then 8500 cause it's 40$ costly for 50% better performance
thanks. I guess the 8600g is worth it if you have no plans to get a discrete GPU. otherwise, the 5600g is the best value due to low price of CPU, mobo, DDR4
the diference between 5600g to 8500G its 10 fps....not worth. 8600G is 15 fps better....this prices its not good and the best thing to do is wait 8700G get low prices.
Increasing vram won't boost fps, only will fix stutters/potato graphics on some games. I prefer to let auto/default, because not everybody can increase vram size.
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System Info: 0:00 ( 5600G: 0:00 / 8500G: 0:47 / 8600G: 1:26 )
Cinebench: 2:02 ( 5600G: 2:02 / 8500G: 2:21 / 8600G: 2:42 )
Alan Wake 2: 3:06
Assassin's Creed Mirage: 4:07
Call of Duty MW2: 4:59 ( Results = R5 5600G: 6:06 / R5 8500G: 6:20 / R5 8600G: 6:32 )
Cyberpunk 2077 - 1080p: 6:42
Cyberpunk 2077 - 720p: 7:39
Forza Horizon 5: 8:35 ( Results = R5 5600G: 10:20 / R5 8500G: 10:31 / R5 8600G: 10:43 )
GTA V: 10:57
Hogwarts Legacy: 13:02
Rainbow Six Siege: 14:29 ( Results = R5 5600G: 15:50 / R5 8500G: 16:03 / R5 8600G: 16:16 )
Red Dead Redemption 2: 16:30
The Last of Us Part 1 - 1080p: 18:33
The Last of Us Part 1 - 720p: 19:59
go test 8600g vs 7840hs 8700g vs 7940hs)))
@@Markus-jx4wx Eeeeeehhhh, I don't own a these laptops.. Sorry :(
@@ChristoGevedjovi'm glad you still Benchmark APU.
@@ChristoGevedjov 8500G vs 5600x/5600 please.
who is better
I just realised. The new iGPUs are RDNA 3 so they have Mesh shaders. Figures the performance in Alan wake 2
I am really so happy that RDNA 3 has Mesh Shaders which can play on Alan Wake 2! 🙂
rdna2 also has mesh shader
@@jrpeegy8294 but the Vega Doesn't, which is the GPU in last gen APUs
@@almightynoob1631 You're right, but that's good to know for people with RX6000 cards :-)
Alan wake 2 is always rt on game, the 8500g and 8600g has rt capable gpu core whereas 5600g doesn't,5600g has to fallback software rt which explains low perf similar to Rx 500 series card which don't have rt.
Oh man I'm glad you benchmarked R5 8500G as it's rare to see. It being able to beat Vega 7 at a good margin with 4 CUs is impressive.
740M good enough can surpass Vega 7, but 760M is a sweet spot
@@alvincalmkidyess 780M is kinda niche tho especially the price 😂 so yea 760M is the sweet spot here
I was thinking of getting the ryzen 7 8700G. I am thinking of skipping the GPU now. Can it beat an entry level GPU like RTX 3060?
@@hirakchatterjee5240Its igpu is as good than a gtx1650. Rtx 3060 is around 3 times stronger.
8500G was only support pcie x4, but 8600G was support pcie x8
R5 8600G is really powerfull well done AMD tbh i wasn't expecting this cpu to be this good
i was glad that the igpu is as powerfull as it is but the cpu itself is kind of a let down for me... steel strongly considering 8600G though
@@kacpermaachowski124I'm still waiting for more reviews with a dedicated GPU. This is kinda underwhelming but for an APU, it's amazingly fast! The price is kinda expensive and similar though but I hope with future benchmarks with GPUs it's better than 7000 series
I was thinking of getting the ryzen 7 8700G. I am thinking of skipping the GPU now. Can it beat an entry level GPU like RTX 3060?
@@hirakchatterjee5240 i don't think so. you could check the bench marks
@@hirakchatterjee5240 Not even close... its more like 1050 ti or TOPS 1060 level
*Radeon Graphics (Vega7)* ~448SP 1900MHz @DDR4 3200MHz (Native)
*Radeon 740M* ~256SP 2800MHz @DDR5 6000MHz O.C. (Native 5200MHz)
*Radeon 760M* ~512SP 2800MHz @DDR5 6000MHz O.C. (Native 5200MHz)
In my opinion, this 5600G should have 3600 RAM to be more fair to compare.
Although DDR5 has high frequencies, its latencies are very high, which slows down communication with the CPU. DDR4, on the other hand, has low frequencies, but its low latency gives it an advantage over the high latencies of DDR5.
@@theemperorprotects83you can enable lower latency in ddr5 using EXPO profile in AM5 bios
This man be on it with these comparisons!
Where have you been all these years?
U r awesome bro....
I subscribed to ur channel
thank you .
very useful
03:40 5600G only 3FPS !! 🤣🤣
how could🤯
Great video comparison! Newegg was dumping the 5600G for $124 plus free 16GB 3200 ram recently which may come back again to make way for the 5500GT/5600GT models!
AMD's new APU's have killed all the graphics card's in existence 💀💀
Yes, 8700G was the fastest iGP in the world
@@Mariadi-X
If I build a pc with it I might forgot to add a Graphics Card later!
Gracias por la comparativa entre 8500g vs 5600g
Yo también la necesitaba para un nuevo ensamble
Can you test R5 5500GT/5600GT too, how much difference to R5 5600G
The Ryzen 5 8500G and 8600G are great products what amd
does not tell you is if u ever decide to add a dedicated gpu to
you build your gpu will not run at x16 pcie lanes but by x8 and
even x4 depending on which one of the chips you decide to get.
With PCIe4, x8 is good enough for midrange GPUs
Good to know but some lower end GPUs only have eight lanes (RX6600) or even four (RX6400).
Amd's legacy of apu are legendary, started with the 3200G to 3400G, then the 5600G and now the 8600G. Saves a lot of budget gamers.
Basically, get a 8600g and everything will most likely be playable 60fps in 900p. Half in 1080p.
ithinks zen4 igpu can oc at more than 3kmhz so it can make perfect 60fps over 1080p
Bruh you could get better performance with a 100$ ish gpu and cpu. There’s no point
@@francescobaruzzi16annifa99 a $100 cpu has no upgrade path.
So even if i slapped a used rx 5700 in there with your $100 cpu, youre on a dead platform.
Additionally, lets look at NEW CPUs currently. The intel i5 14600 is $209. The i5 14700 is 299. Dead sockets. Your only upgrade path would be the i7 14xxx
The ryzen 5 7600 is 199. The ryzen 8600g is 229. The upgrade path on those goes up to the ryzen 9 AND at MINIMUM ryzen 9000 series but REALISTICALLY, 10000 series, potentially 11k series. Am4 had 1,2,3,4,5k series. By the same logic we should see 7,8,9,10,11, series all on am5. This is 8. So I have an upgrade path to 3 gens from now, and all the way up to the 9 tier chip.
If you dont care about future proofing, yeah, go get a cheap i3 for $100 and an rx 590 or something for $230. But if you want to future proof, spend the extra $130 on a new processor that has ddr5 ram and an upgrade path
@@francescobaruzzi16annifa99 NO POINT THERE IS USING ANY GPU IN A YEAR CAN BUILD ANOTHER UNIT LOL WHY IGPU IS THE BEST BECAUSE LESS CONSUMPTION OF ELECTICity BILL in cumpute .gpu is useless w/ out cpu .. cpu w/ igpu can survive alone with less tpd consume ...thats why amd build igpu for buget gamers not for rich kid like intel doing..yeah real gpu boost performance but when you get older you know what it is hahaha 100$ -200$ can build one ryzen unit now a days..
@@zilentangelzero7 I did not understand a word
Extremely informative video, crisp quality, no BS or annoying music.
10/10
00:00 5600g core volage - 2.6-2.9V. Its not good for processor
in CPU-z shows wrong voltage, sorry! Impossible to reach more than 1,4v, should be like 0,9-1,3v.
@@ChristoGevedjov whooaa, i wonde3r why CPUZ is bugging out??? that would be interesting to report more on.
great. thnx 4 the vid. exact the comparison i waited 4. greetings
Is the GIGABYTE B650M GAMING WIFI good? It's the cheapest am5 mobo I can find. Otherwise am4 is more budget friendly
Yes, this motherboard is good.
@@ChristoGevedjov thanks. Could you test these apus with fg mod?
Have u check asrock price?
@@nuurch488gigabyte is better than asrock so no need to check
@@nuurch488 yes. It's slightly more expensive but it has better features. But I thought gigabyte would be more reliable
I was thinking, if the APUs have a TDP of 65w, what you have shown on the graph CPU & GPU power exceeds more than 100 watts?
the 8600g going above 80w most of the time 😐
No, both the gpu and cpu power are calculated into one you can see that both gpu and cpu have very close numbers in power. Either you look into the cpu or gpu power.
@@zilverman7820 doesn't change the fact 8600g going above 80w either in cpu or gpu
It's only up to 87w base on the video bro. Of course its gonna use a lot of power for the cpu and igpu to work. But for the performance it gives your not losing. Even a 5600g plus 1050 ti will exceed 100w for both.@@imranhq13
Because it's combination of both CPU and GPU.
There's no way to calculate GPU consumption inside APU
so man, what are your thoughts on these new APUs?
also, how did you get your hands on a 8500G?
They're good, 8700G performance is almost same fps as GTX 1650/ 1060 gpu and 8500G is almost same fps as GTX 1050 Ti . Only one problem is, prices are high and they need to drop them prices down like minus 50-80$ which many people will allow budget to buy them.
"also, how did you get your hands on a 8500G?"
What do you mean? How I did bought 8500G hardware?
@@ChristoGevedjov thank you so much for your insight!
yeah, it's too bad about the expensiveness of these amd chips!!!
@@ChristoGevedjov "What do you mean? How I did bought 8500G hardware?"
yeah, that's what i meant lol. but i didn't know that we could buy the 8500G now. i didn't know that the 8500G was on sale already.
@@ChristoGevedjov The only downside with going with this apu is the am5 platform cost. Especially the ram. The 5600g and 5700g benefitted from the am4 platform which is budget friendly big time.
@@zilverman7820 true. and not just the ram and the rest of the platform; it's the price of the 8700G chip itself that is a very high barrier of entry just to get such very low levels of graphics performance.
Would there have been any way to increase the power draw of the Vega 7? It was always 10-60% less than the other two, and I am wondering if that was affecting the performance
Only overclock cpu and apu will increase power. So, in this video everything is stock which is normal power of the 5600g/vega 7.
I subscribe to this channel because I can only afford to buy PC with APUs. I hope the 8700g can now play emulated games at 1080p 60fps medium to high settings.
If you can afford the 8700G you can afford a low/mid tier CPU and a mid tier GPU, no? At least at current pricing.
i3 12100f + rx 6600 blows R7 8700G out of the competition for the same price
@@revialle5434 what is the price for those 2 ?
In my country it's about 350 euro
For i312100f and rx 6600 I mean
@@halfgod Oof, in my country Rx 6600 costs 250$ and i3 1200f costs 100$ both brand new. But in most states, you can easily find Rx 6600 for 200$ brand new
@@halfgod Even a gtx 1660 super (170$) paired with an i3 1200f (100$) is better deal than R7 8700G. 8700G only makes sense in a small form factor case where you can't slot in a discrete GPU, for mainstream builds it just doesn't make sense at that absurd price.
yes the 8600g giving more fps but it's taking a lot of wattage too, 8500g keeping it under control in that regard
Maybe because it's considerably less powerful?
@@waltuhputurdaway they both have the same 65w tdp
@@imranhq13 but that's not it's real power consumption
just oc and undervolt it duh
What gpu did you use? Please tell
I don't use any gpu, it's igpu.
@@ChristoGevedjov nice, thanks
Amazing work Christo, keep these comparison vids flowing!
Can you test memory scaling on the 8500G? it would be interesting to see how dual channel DDR5-4800 performs vs 5200/5600/6000 and single channel ddr5-4800/5200/5600 vs dual. Specially single channel, i know it is going to loose performance the question would be how much, this is important because if the 8500G can retain, let say, 90% of the performance with single channel DDR5-5200/5600 costs go down a lot.
You should test 8600g with XMP to 6400mhz or even 7200mhz, the difference is night and day compared to 6000mhz (5-10fps minimum)
With this amd we're not afraid if GPU rip in the market
Did you run Red Dead Redemption using Vulkan or DX12/DX11 Rendering API?
И где прогресс? Учитывая насколько сильно влияет частота оперативной памяти на производительность веги, то есть вероятность того, что если бы условно ддр4 взяла на этой системе те же 6 ггц, то фпс был бы близок к уровню 8600г. Даже взять в тест 5600г с оперативкой 4ггц+, что вполне доступно, и разница не будет такой ощутимой и скорее всего выше стокового 8500г
Хз, лучше уже 5600 обычный + дискретка. По деньгам почти одинаково, а фпс даже побольше будет.
I would like to see this test with a decent graphics card
Damn, this is way too impressive, but it seems they are power limmited in some scenarios, how much of a boost will they get with ryzen master modifications?
8600g use 16 lane for IGPU ? what about 8600g + rx 6600 ? x8 for each? or what? 🧐
Why bro it capable of 4080
It would be great to put the new APUs vs the 5600g in combo with the most "popular" graphics for example the 2070 super, 1660 super 3060 etc.
why intel is not working on its integrated graphics
I was thinking of getting the ryzen 7 8700G. I am thinking of skipping the GPU now. Can it beat an entry level GPU like RTX 3060?
No, 3060 will be ~3 times faster. 8700G can only match 1650
the lineup after these will probably be GTX 1650 Super / RX 580 level and the one after will probably be RTX 3050 - 3060 and RX 5600 XT / RX 6600
which is pretty crazy to think about
@@LuckyFullmetal Nope
I think this was same with gtx1650
Is the resizable bar enabled or not?
If it's enabled Will help get more fps.
but how you play same in mw2 with three PCs?
There's benchmark mode.
hey man thank you very much!!!! I woukd humbky ask you to compare the rx 580 2048sp vs the 8600g igpu... I want to know if it is best to buy an am4 setup with rx 580 2048sp or to go to 8600g(I know that at least alan wake 2 run on 8600g and it does not run on rx 580 2048sp) ...ah, and if possible add starfield to the list of games...
RX 580 is better than 8600G , so better buy an AM4 setup with RX 580. You still can play Alan Wake 2 with RX 580, you just need to put vulkan files and then you can play at 720p / 25-40 fps.
A used rx 5700 is $130 on ebay in america including the shipping. An RX 580 is $99 new. You can get a budget cpu to pair with the rx 5700 and that would be the price of the 8600g.
$100 cpu plus $130 used rx 5700. If you go used on the cpu, you can add more money to the gpu portion and get something good for that $230 price. But you have no upgrade path.
@@ericreid8111 I live in brazil man, everything bought outside the country has an enourmous amount of taxes making it truly expensive...and buying here is also expensive...the rx 580 is the only gpu afforable per say...
@@carlosmagnomacieira8210 the 580 is a very respectable device. It will play everything just fine 1080p or 720p.
Personally, 720p did us fine for so long. Ive played on 720p until like 2020
Idk why but the 8600G iGPU performs on par with my 6700 XT OC, what am I doing wrong??
8500g seems like a good deal if it's $150 someday
Slap in AFMF
отличный тест. Спасибо, друг.
i have a problem in my cpu temp it reach 87c° and is too hot what i should do ? i have cooler snowman m105
Did you set cpu fan to full speed in bios? Did you remove sticker from cpu cooler where was for cpu place?
Is thermal paste replaced?
@@ChristoGevedjov yes i remove the sticker and i replaced the thermal paste and i didn't set fan to full speed in bios
@@mazenbenzohra-zf1gn Try change fan to full speed in bios, this can help to get lower temp.
What graphics should we pair with 8600g if we want to upgrade
RX6600 max pcix8
7:50 bgm?
So 8600g needs about 140 watts for gaming
There is something wrong with 8500G CPU clock speed, it keeps hitting 3700MHz instead of 5000, which is the proper turbo limit
I guess problem is from bios or CPU can do only this when is with iGPU. I guess if I put GPU and disable APU in settings, then cpu speed can hit +4ghz or maximum 5ghz speed same as 8700G and 8600G..
@oGevedjov i just hope that AMD is not pulling some bullschnitzel, to pretend less watt usage or avoid competing with 8600g. Or another possibility - what if program shows only 4 c-cores, that have turbo on 3700Mhz.Coz 5000 is meant for 2 full cores.
Yo tengo un 5600g desde hace 2 años y durante la escasez de gráficas me sacó del apuro y ahora viendo el desempeño que tiene el 8600g se me hace impresionante el salto que ha tenido en rendimiento, pero sin duda alguna no volveré a comprar un APU y optaré por una gráfica dedicada
You can add dedicated gpu with 5600g too
Thanks for your work
Man ... R5 8600g is a great cpu but, why they locked pcie only just x8😢
That was the bad of AMD, this procie was difficult pair with other GPU
@@Mariadi-X Its ok in real life, the 8500G is bad with only x4!
Really sad that even on these monolithic chips the idle power draw cannot compare with Intel's. For everything else, they're bonkers.
going above 80w 😶
alguien sabe por que lo prueban con la vram del igpu en stock y no lo ponen en 2gb??
The 8500G is very capable at that price, but it's still too close to the 8600G where I live to make it worth the savings over lost performance
Bro i was hesitating on choosing the R5 8600G for my first every build, and i have a small budget (i mean it alr actually like 450€) and I’m planning to not buy a gpu to get to this budget, thank you know you showed me the games that i wanted to play they work perfectly fine for me
Btw do you lose fps while recording ??
why 8500g has so low mhz? where is 5ghz or at least 4?
lol, did anyone realise that he had Ray Tracing on when benchmarking FH5. Damn these are good.
Thats actually crazy for a sub 200$ APU. Seems like AM5 is really picking up on the low budget performance.
How about ryzen 5 8600g with FSR technology ?
honestly i dont see the point of buying these apus for gaming without external gpu bcoz even without gpu the new apu based pc will cost as near as PS5 or at least xbox series S in that matter
8600G is a worthy successor to the 5600G. If it had the 780M it would've been perfect.
Someone mentioned in the last video that these AMD apus are not good for prolonged gaming, that the performance drops off considerably--is that true? Can you play games on these apus for as long as you would on a system with a gpu?
They're good APUs, problem is prices are a bit too high for these cpus with APUs. I'm sure after 3-5 months prices of these cpus will drop a lot like 40-80$ down. (same happened with 5600g and 5700 were so expensive on release day 5600g was like 270$ and 5700G 370$)
Will definitely buy the 8600G once the first or second price drops occurs, probably by Black Friday of this year. The 760M isn't that much behind the 780M honestly now that I've seen some benchmarks of yours and others. Thanks for the uploads and looking forward to more!
@@b.shes.2643 I forgot to add one: About performance drops off, this is new bug. I'm sure they will release new update someday which will fix drop fps/performance. Previous video which i made 8500g vs 8600g vs 8700g, Only on 8700G power was less than 70W which was bug and gave a bit less fps only on three games Assassin creed Mirage,Starfield and RDR2... When i re-installed driver and restarted the pc, power on 8700g went back to 77-87W and gave +5 fps more on AC Mirage,Starfield and RDR2 than bug cut power.
On 8500G and 8600G have no bug about this, so nothing to worry about it.
@@ChristoGevedjovI think it's the STAMP that gamernexus mentioned. It's used in handhelds to reduce the high temps but it's unnecessary for desktop. Amd said that they'll release a bios update soon
i would get the 8500g for my htpc if they price it lower
If u can please oc the 8500g and 8600g?
i dont think its worth the upgrade from 5xxxG 8xxxG bc of the cpu itself, is 10-20% fastest, meanwhile the gpu its the more advance upgrade here. imo is best if u have a 5xxxG gen to buy a discrete gpu like a rx6600xt o 6700 an be for the same price even better
So 740M a bit slower than GTX 1050 ?
760M a bit faster than GTX 1050 ?
760M is like GTX 1630 or a bit slower.
740M I think it's faster than GTX 1050 if ram is much faster.
Hi guys, which one is better; 5500X + GTX 1660 VS 8600G Igp GPU for gaming?
Thanks
5500X + GTX 1660 is much better!
Cool u try these on like Fortnite , Valorant and csgo 2
I play valorant on athlon 200GE and its good. All the APU above will run valorant smoothly even on highest settings.
Imagine after 3 years of new iGPU series can go up to 100fps
why lock CPU clock 8500G at 3700MHZ ????
Hogwart legacy and alan wake 2 were the heavy game for CPU and GPU
8500g is almost the same price as 5600g, and it's clearly outperforming the heck out of 5600g. So, I'm kinda confused, as to why 5600g is more popular? Is there some benefit in buying 5600g over 8500g?
Theres a big price gap when it comes to different countries here its $65
@@rami6044 I'm getting it for max $10 difference, but I heard some people saying that buying 5600g would be better (specially if you gonna get a graphics card in the future) they did not explain tho, made me even more confused.
@@Mambo-Italiano 8500g is obviously better cause it comes with am5 socket its better for future upgrades aswell its only about the price
@@rami6044 🙏🙏
R5 5600G VEGA 7 Why can't run Alan walk 2 .only 3-5 fps😅
Because 5600G doesn't support Mesh Shaders.
The bad thing is that Ryzen 5 8600G does use 1.5-2x more power than Ryzen 5 5600G which 2x power = 2x fps
Running it below 60 °c is more impressive than the performance tbh
Ttally
Radeon 7xxM is better than my RX 470, dayum!
The 5600g costs $110 here while the 8500g and 8600g costs $250 and $300 respectively, and with the price of a520m being $60 vs a620m being $120 yeah, a big nope
Aqui o 5600g custa R$800 (metade de um salário mínimo)
Now let's wait R5 5600g vs 5600gt vs 5500g 😊
Tengo la 8500G y es raro porque no corre a esos fps, corre peor o igual a la 5600g
The VRAM wasn’t OC
better to go with 8600g cheaper and almost same as 8700g and even with 1080 is good gives u enough time to grap some money to get a good mid-high gpu like 4060 to 4080 or 7600xt to 7800xt
Ryzen 8600 G for the win baby it is better then 8700 cause it's 100$cheap and its way better then 8500 cause it's 40$ costly for 50% better performance
Oh man...u r just amazing
Woah…50 to 100% leap in performance from 8500g and 8600g
Can't believe that 8600G when we look at the cinebench score is not that far away from 5600G, 8500G is just like 5600X. Stupid
Given this data, the R5 8500G iGPU would probably be even slightly faster than the R7 5700G iGPU.
Its more than slightly! There is another you tube video making this comparison.
the igpu power consumption of 8600g is insanely high as the processor, more power hungry than gtx 1650..
Im curious about ryzen 5 5600gt
It only has higher clock speed so performance will not be that high with 5600g.
i think in the next 10 years there will be no need for graphic cards
Plz do 8600g and 8700g vs 7600 with dedicated gpu
7500f with dedicated GPU RX 6500 XT was more cheaper than 8700G
I need that Zen 5 APU on desktop AMD. I need more power efficient APU
thanks. I guess the 8600g is worth it if you have no plans to get a discrete GPU. otherwise, the 5600g is the best value due to low price of CPU, mobo, DDR4
ryzen 5 5600g is the buget gaming for us that can afford playable but not on hard AAA games
the diference between 5600g to 8500G its 10 fps....not worth. 8600G is 15 fps better....this prices its not good and the best thing to do is wait 8700G get low prices.
*So the 8600 is the next big budget Ryzen CPU. RIP 5600G.*
only 8700g worth buying then, sadly 5700x is alot cheaper you prob can even buy 6700xt
uh well urm, this type of system called soc, system on chip, so 'chipset' isnt wrong
So the weakest apu from 8000G series can beat the best of last Gen 5700G, great!!
all test on 500mb vram, you not alocate 4 or 8 gb ram
Increasing vram won't boost fps, only will fix stutters/potato graphics on some games.
I prefer to let auto/default, because not everybody can increase vram size.
These types of processors will come to handheld PCs.
Please yuzu emulation tears of the kingdom