One of the nice things about the wolves is we do have a solid regular season team now. ant does not need to pad his regular seasons stats because Karl Anthony towns is almost the opposite dynamic where he tries harder in those regular season games when he can get gaudy stat sheets, which actually just keeps Ant fresh for playoff ant. It just depends on if Ant starts really worrying about his career legacy and starts chasing mvp and other stuff.
SGA took until he was 24 years old to become who he is now, with no expectations until this past season. ANT is almost at that level and is only 22, still trying to figure out his game. SGA figured out how to push off with his off arm to get spacing. The refs never call that push off so might as well continue doing it. SGA also figured out how to snap his head back every time he feels a tiny bump when he drives. He get's that call 8 out of 10 times. ANT still trying to figure out what his head snapping move is going to be, where the refs will give him the call almost every single time.
ANT hasn’t done anything at 22 all you guys did was microwave these results by getting a multiple time DPOY and already having Kat who was the reason you guys won in game 7 btw, ANT when it mattered most shit the bed vs the mavs, OKC just started building around SGA this offseason after he lead his team to a 1 seed with the youngest roster in history vs the mavs in round 2, OKC will win multiple championships before Ant touches the finals
@@sulythoven they got embarrassed in one game. Every other game came down to the final 3 minutes. What actually happened is objectively the opposite of what you are claiming.
@@jjstraka1982 embarrassed as in letting Rudy guard Luka for a go head game winning attempt and allowing that switch to happen, embarrassing as in slow mo having his best game all year in game 1 and Jaden having 27 and still losing while Ant and Kat combined for 12-36 from the field, embarrassing as in Ant melting down and throwing the ball out of bounds in the last 30 seconds
They haven't updated that pull quote about Towns on The Ringer in a long time. Sure wish we could have seen KAT's play in the WCF without having his injury-repaired knee getting slammed into at the end of the Nuggets series.
Jaden has to become a consistent double/double threat. Although he's one of the best defenders in the league, he absolutely has to find some consistency on the offensive end. If he could that, KAT could develop a mid-range pullup, and Rudy find any semblance of an offensive game.... CHAMPIONSHIP!
jaden scores to fill the gaps, he's not a batch scorer. Kat wont shoot mid range, he thinks the 3 is the better shot, also few others on the wolves can shoot 3s, so he'll be taking them. Rudy has never found an offensive game outside of high % PnR chances.
The Teeheeing about that article bashing Karl is exactly the Wolves can't get shit for him in a trade. Stop assisting in the media bashing of your own players
Thing is SGA puts up better stats and knows how to get to his spots consistently more than Ant can. Now Ant is much younger than SGA and I think Ant is a better leader and has an aura about him that’s better.
@@sulythoventhere’s no arguing that Anthony edwards charisma and leadership is far exceeding sga, but still sga at this moment is pretty good and ofc he’s 4 years older and knows a little more, that being said there’s no denying that ant at 26 will be 5x sga right now since he’s 26
@@aximus11 again leadership is a guy who carried the youngest team in nba history to the second round, just because ANT says “bring ya ass” doesn’t mean it leads to wins, and I guess ANT will be prime Lebron at 26
How many years has he been in the league? If he's ever to be an Elite player he'd showed it by now. Not even close. 0 bball iq and shows up to camp overweight. No chance
Ant had a big leap this 2023-2024 season with a lot of help coming from veteran Mike Conley. Imagine the leap for Ant this summer spending a lot of time with a locker room full of veteran all-NBA players.
ANT hasn’t done anything at 22 all you guys did was microwave these results by getting a multiple time DPOY and already having Kat who was the reason you guys won in game 7 btw, ANT when it mattered most shit the bed vs the mavs, OKC just started building around SGA this offseason after he lead his team to a 1 seed with the youngest roster in history vs the mavs in round 2, OKC will win multiple championships before Ant touches the finals
@@sulythovenare you saying the same thing with each comment? Ant has already played in more playoff games than sga and sga has already entered his prime.
@@antmj2335 speaking to brain dead wolves fans like you I have to copy and paste my previous statement because all y’all do is have the same argument points that is easily disproven
Ant looked like he got paid off in the conference finals…he randomly stopped being a dawg…passive driving the ball and on D. I can’t look at him the same way
I don't agree with them that SGA v Ant is even a convo right now, but if we are going to cherry pick a single series we can look at Ants 31/8/6 on 51/44/84 with elite defense against the Suns. If you use the whole playoffs SGA is still probably more impressive but the gap is much smaller. SGA: 30/7/6.5 58%TS 10 game sample Ant: 27.5/7/6.5 60%TS 16 game sample
@@danielford2043 how much of that is lack of spacing with Josh giddy and not having a real number two option like Kyrie or Kat or brown, SGA was relying on a sophomore and a rookie who both struggled in their first playoffs and he still put up those numbers
Embiid in the playoffs doesn't make his teammates better. I think that Ant will definitely be top three in a year or two, but there are some guys that don't rise to the level of playoff Ant.
Boston showed you what happens when you don't trade your 2nd best player and instead cover your weaknesses. We need to stop having this "is KAT the second best player on a championship team" debate because if KAT is not that guy then that guy is just not on the roster. Because Jaden plays offense when he feels like it and the team usually plays 3.5 on 5 on offense with him and Rudy on the court amd Naz completely disappeared in the playoffs
Jiren, I really gotta stop and ask if you're one of KATs burner accounts after so many years defending this guy in Minnesota sports comment sections and leaving super chats on PHNX podcasts
Phil, who would you rather have Anthony Davis or lebron? Why do you media pundits continuously throw Anthony Davis under the bus? You know without AD lebron wouldn't have his disney ring right?
We need CP3 to be traded so his contract becomes guaranteed then hope he gets bought out for a % of his salary. Then we can sign him to a vet minimum deal.
Looks like an insufferable OKC fan got this fed into his algorithm and now we all have to put up with his BS. Just be glad your guy gets rewarded for his push-offs and flops and go back to your corner of TH-cam.
@sullythoven is the insufferable Thunder fan who copies and pastes his material in every reply. What he’s not understanding is that sga faced a zionless pels team the series before the mavs, and ant faced the defending champs in a series that went 7 along with sweeping the suns. Ant made it further than sga and he’s crying because all he can think of is ant rivaling his favorite player for the best young player in the league. Oh and ant has played more playoff games in his career and is 3 years younger. How bout that for some fun trivia.
Don't forget two overall first picks, and a multiple defensive player of the year. And STILL can't win a championship. Because "It's The WOLVES" So, back to "Rid the team of Kat" again for Phil. Just like Kirk Cousins was the ONLY player stopping the Vikings from winning a Super Bowl, KAT is Phil's scapegoat on the wolves. Previously, Phil's scapegoats included Wiggins and D-Lo. Both are gone. Same ole Wolves. Kat will be traded and teams will then make someone NOT named ANT beat them. Ant will become frustrated, Phil will then scapegoat ANT and.,...Same ole Wolves. Vikings should win the big one this season, using Phil logic. Got rid of that "Glass ceiling" QB with the prohibitive salary, and gave all that money instead to a wide receiver. We shall see how this pans out. I suspect not well.
@@Minnesotamelarky ANT hasn’t done anything at 22 all you guys did was microwave these results by getting a multiple time DPOY and already having Kat who was the reason you guys won in game 7 btw, ANT when it mattered most shit the bed vs the mavs, OKC just started building around SGA this offseason after he lead his team to a 1 seed with the youngest roster in history vs the mavs in round 2, OKC will win multiple championships before Ant touches the finals
@Minnesotamelarky you lost to the same team, and in the series against okc, SGA was the best player. I am a mavs fan, but I can be honest , shai is better than Ant right now, and it might change in the future, but that's not the case now. Shai is top 3 in mvp this season, can't even believe this is an argument.
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One of the nice things about the wolves is we do have a solid regular season team now. ant does not need to pad his regular seasons stats because Karl Anthony towns is almost the opposite dynamic where he tries harder in those regular season games when he can get gaudy stat sheets, which actually just keeps Ant fresh for playoff ant. It just depends on if Ant starts really worrying about his career legacy and starts chasing mvp and other stuff.
SGA took until he was 24 years old to become who he is now, with no expectations until this past season. ANT is almost at that level and is only 22, still trying to figure out his game. SGA figured out how to push off with his off arm to get spacing. The refs never call that push off so might as well continue doing it. SGA also figured out how to snap his head back every time he feels a tiny bump when he drives. He get's that call 8 out of 10 times. ANT still trying to figure out what his head snapping move is going to be, where the refs will give him the call almost every single time.
ANT hasn’t done anything at 22 all you guys did was microwave these results by getting a multiple time DPOY and already having Kat who was the reason you guys won in game 7 btw, ANT when it mattered most shit the bed vs the mavs, OKC just started building around SGA this offseason after he lead his team to a 1 seed with the youngest roster in history vs the mavs in round 2, OKC will win multiple championships before Ant touches the finals
@@sulythoven What round did you lose to the Mavs in again?? I forgot......
@@jjstraka1982 haha we celebrating what round we lost to the same team? we lost in 6 while you guys got embarrassed in 4 out of 5 games
@@sulythoven they got embarrassed in one game. Every other game came down to the final 3 minutes. What actually happened is objectively the opposite of what you are claiming.
@@jjstraka1982 embarrassed as in letting Rudy guard Luka for a go head game winning attempt and allowing that switch to happen, embarrassing as in slow mo having his best game all year in game 1 and Jaden having 27 and still losing while Ant and Kat combined for 12-36 from the field, embarrassing as in Ant melting down and throwing the ball out of bounds in the last 30 seconds
They haven't updated that pull quote about Towns on The Ringer in a long time. Sure wish we could have seen KAT's play in the WCF without having his injury-repaired knee getting slammed into at the end of the Nuggets series.
Jaden has to become a consistent double/double threat. Although he's one of the best defenders in the league, he absolutely has to find some consistency on the offensive end.
If he could that, KAT could develop a mid-range pullup, and Rudy find any semblance of an offensive game.... CHAMPIONSHIP!
How is he consistent double double threat when he is a terrible rebounder and assister? Enlighten me person who uncovered a new counting stat?
@@WheresWaldo05 Reading is Fundamental; "Has to become..." If you're going to be a douche, learn to read.
@@WheresWaldo05 Learn to read.
jaden scores to fill the gaps, he's not a batch scorer. Kat wont shoot mid range, he thinks the 3 is the better shot, also few others on the wolves can shoot 3s, so he'll be taking them. Rudy has never found an offensive game outside of high % PnR chances.
The Teeheeing about that article bashing Karl is exactly the Wolves can't get shit for him in a trade. Stop assisting in the media bashing of your own players
you think these guys really affect kat's trade stock?
Thing is SGA puts up better stats and knows how to get to his spots consistently more than Ant can.
Now Ant is much younger than SGA and I think Ant is a better leader and has an aura about him that’s better.
A better leader? We’re taking about the guy who got the 1 seed with his second best player being a sophomore JDub or a rookie Chet?
That “aura” could be that he plays for ur favorite team lol
@@sulythoventhere’s no arguing that Anthony edwards charisma and leadership is far exceeding sga, but still sga at this moment is pretty good and ofc he’s 4 years older and knows a little more, that being said there’s no denying that ant at 26 will be 5x sga right now since he’s 26
@@aximus11 again leadership is a guy who carried the youngest team in nba history to the second round, just because ANT says “bring ya ass” doesn’t mean it leads to wins, and I guess ANT will be prime Lebron at 26
Plus look at Devin booker fans they thought he was going to be way better after leading his team to the nba finals at 23 “ just wait until he’s 27”
What gets Ant to that level is what happened to him in 24. If he comes in looking to make 25 the revenge tour, it’s going to be a treat.
How many years has he been in the league? If he's ever to be an Elite player he'd showed it by now. Not even close. 0 bball iq and shows up to camp overweight. No chance
Ant had a big leap this 2023-2024 season with a lot of help coming from veteran Mike Conley. Imagine the leap for Ant this summer spending a lot of time with a locker room full of veteran all-NBA players.
He's got 0 bball iq... Cant fix stupid. RIP
ANT is above Tatum what are we talking about, clears him easily
In a championship perspective, we are a super team of role players.
What I been telling you all year. Fake MJ is a 0 bball iq player who cant shoot and kills the teams synergy. He just another role player
Murray ahead of Booker is crazy. No Booker on this list is laughable.
SGA is Luka and tatums age not ants. People talk about sga like he isn’t in his prime already
ANT hasn’t done anything at 22 all you guys did was microwave these results by getting a multiple time DPOY and already having Kat who was the reason you guys won in game 7 btw, ANT when it mattered most shit the bed vs the mavs, OKC just started building around SGA this offseason after he lead his team to a 1 seed with the youngest roster in history vs the mavs in round 2, OKC will win multiple championships before Ant touches the finals
@@sulythovenare you saying the same thing with each comment? Ant has already played in more playoff games than sga and sga has already entered his prime.
@@antmj2335 speaking to brain dead wolves fans like you I have to copy and paste my previous statement because all y’all do is have the same argument points that is easily disproven
Ant looked like he got paid off in the conference finals…he randomly stopped being a dawg…passive driving the ball and on D. I can’t look at him the same way
Playoff SGA is 32 points 8 and 7 vs the mavs in 6 games lmfao 50 40 80 splits
SGA, Luka and Tatum like 26 😂 competing with a 22 year old haha. Ant is better than all of them.
Ant will get better
I don't agree with them that SGA v Ant is even a convo right now, but if we are going to cherry pick a single series we can look at Ants 31/8/6 on 51/44/84 with elite defense against the Suns.
If you use the whole playoffs SGA is still probably more impressive but the gap is much smaller.
SGA: 30/7/6.5 58%TS 10 game sample
Ant: 27.5/7/6.5 60%TS 16 game sample
@@danielford2043 how much of that is lack of spacing with Josh giddy and not having a real number two option like Kyrie or Kat or brown, SGA was relying on a sophomore and a rookie who both struggled in their first playoffs and he still put up those numbers
SGA a true MVP with Defensive MVP ceiling... Fake MJ? Just finally cracked top 50 (48) in PER efficiency. It's mot even close.
Embiid in the playoffs doesn't make his teammates better. I think that Ant will definitely be top three in a year or two, but there are some guys that don't rise to the level of playoff Ant.
I'd love kolek. Let's grab him. Maybe diet john stockton 😂😂😂
Boston showed you what happens when you don't trade your 2nd best player and instead cover your weaknesses. We need to stop having this "is KAT the second best player on a championship team" debate because if KAT is not that guy then that guy is just not on the roster. Because Jaden plays offense when he feels like it and the team usually plays 3.5 on 5 on offense with him and Rudy on the court amd Naz completely disappeared in the playoffs
Jiren, I really gotta stop and ask if you're one of KATs burner accounts after so many years defending this guy in Minnesota sports comment sections and leaving super chats on PHNX podcasts
Brown is clutch and is a plus defender tho. So he can help the team when his offense is off. But yea brown is not top 15 tho.
@richborn6700 you figured me out now I gotta make another
Flopic is not 2, 0 defensive game. Ringer is already wrong after #1. 😅
Dumb argument. Jokic don't play defense either and people have him as number 1. Try again, bozo.
Phil, who would you rather have Anthony Davis or lebron? Why do you media pundits continuously throw Anthony Davis under the bus? You know without AD lebron wouldn't have his disney ring right?
We need CP3 to be traded so his contract becomes guaranteed then hope he gets bought out for a % of his salary. Then we can sign him to a vet minimum deal.
He's better than Tatum and steph
Looks like an insufferable OKC fan got this fed into his algorithm and now we all have to put up with his BS. Just be glad your guy gets rewarded for his push-offs and flops and go back to your corner of TH-cam.
@sullythoven is the insufferable Thunder fan who copies and pastes his material in every reply. What he’s not understanding is that sga faced a zionless pels team the series before the mavs, and ant faced the defending champs in a series that went 7 along with sweeping the suns. Ant made it further than sga and he’s crying because all he can think of is ant rivaling his favorite player for the best young player in the league. Oh and ant has played more playoff games in his career and is 3 years younger. How bout that for some fun trivia.
ANT can’t touch Giannis, Jokic or Luka
Naz > Towns
Don't forget two overall first picks, and a multiple defensive player of the year.
And STILL can't win a championship.
Because "It's The WOLVES"
So, back to "Rid the team of Kat" again for Phil.
Just like Kirk Cousins was the ONLY player stopping the Vikings from winning a Super Bowl, KAT is Phil's scapegoat on the wolves.
Previously, Phil's scapegoats included Wiggins and D-Lo.
Both are gone.
Same ole Wolves.
Kat will be traded and teams will then make someone NOT named ANT beat them. Ant will become frustrated, Phil will then scapegoat ANT and.,...Same ole Wolves.
Vikings should win the big one this season, using Phil logic. Got rid of that "Glass ceiling" QB with the prohibitive salary, and gave all that money instead to a wide receiver.
We shall see how this pans out. I suspect not well.
Ant over SGA is taking a piss
They clearly didn’t watch SGA vs the Mavs almost single handedly forcing a game 7 play 1 v 5 that entire series
Older ,no defense ,had a shorter run 🎯
@@Minnesotamelarky ANT hasn’t done anything at 22 all you guys did was microwave these results by getting a multiple time DPOY and already having Kat who was the reason you guys won in game 7 btw, ANT when it mattered most shit the bed vs the mavs, OKC just started building around SGA this offseason after he lead his team to a 1 seed with the youngest roster in history vs the mavs in round 2, OKC will win multiple championships before Ant touches the finals
@Minnesotamelarky you lost to the same team, and in the series against okc, SGA was the best player. I am a mavs fan, but I can be honest , shai is better than Ant right now, and it might change in the future, but that's not the case now. Shai is top 3 in mvp this season, can't even believe this is an argument.
@@sulythoven 🤣
These rankings are a joke. Pure comedy
LeBron 12, really? This list is c r a p. The only team that would take LeBron is the lakers because they have no choice.