Recreating Weezer's Blue Album Guitar Tone!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 28 ก.ค. 2020
- Let's see how close I can come to recreating Weezer's legendary guitar tone as heard on their debut album!
Ben’s My Name Is Jonas Lesson:
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A big part of the sound is also playing inverted power chords, the low 5th gives that huuuuge sound
I was gonna say, don’t know why he’s not playing it right
@@analogsignal original recording of MNIJ didn't have inverted chords. if you listen to the isolated guitar track it's actually just the root and fifth, no octave. Buddy holly has some inverted chords. So does the world has turned, in the garage, etc. No one else also doesn't have any and is also the only standard tuning song.
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That is the KEY to the sound.
Yes! This is the most important part of weezer's sound imho
Read somewhere that Rivers also had the tone knob turned down. The lack of treble allowed them to run the guitars higher in the mix without getting in the way of cymbals/vocals. Corgan said similar about layering big muffs on Siamese Dream - less top = can run the guitars louder in the mix. Less attack but more 'weight'.
I’ll use that tip! Got a 50 caliber on the way. Thanks for repeating the information!
Hey Fluff, You should recreate the guitar tone from Green Day’s Album dookie.
Agreed
He will get it wrong absolutely he’s gonna. Everyone gets dookie tone wrong
@@ZagTheWag but there's no harm in him trying
Simon M. Davis eating poop is my only priority
ZagTheWag I wonder what it is about Dookie’s tones that prevent people from getting the tones from every instrument right. I’ve never heard anyone get the bass or snare drum tone right either
Its close but i feel like it still has your modern metal mix feel to it that you have with your other stuff
yeah kinda sterile
the only thing missing is that upside down power chord rivers always uses.
the added lower 5th in the 6th string?
@@nclsrfn yea i dont really know music theory so i always just call it an upside down power chord lol
@@PintsofGuinness It's just an inversion
@@PintsofGuinness yeah don't worry man, that's like the most technical I can get with theory :)
anyway it's explained here (6:38):
th-cam.com/video/a3WUHhsd3EA/w-d-xo.html
4:13 The acoustic parts of the intro were all flatpicked, not fingerpicked. It's insane to watch them do it!
Hate to tell you 3 years later, but they were fingerpicked in studio. Brian said that live he uses a boss acoustic simulator pedal, and thinks it sounds better picked through that pedal.
HUM You’d prefer an astronaut
Their recording of that fucken album is nuts, they ran their amps through bass cabs and shit.
YES
@@TheTurtleneck64bass cabs are so insane
I would’ve liked to hear more of the tone from “The World Has Turned and Left Me Here” or “Jamie” that really thick sound. Those tracks specifically hit HARD. The sound is so thick, so immersive, so in your face. It’s my favorite sound I’ve heard from guitars ever on a record. Great video nonetheless, really got the spirit of the tone!
In the Garage has super heavy tone, was hoping that was the song he chose
Love Jamie!
I've been told (and my half deaf ears confirm) it's partially the way the chords are played. Standard D barred chords are played with the A from the six string making it a D5/A with the bass still playing the D. So you get overdrive and modulations from the lowest note note not the root. It sounds fantastic on Jaimie for sure. There is another way to play the chords, so for D you could play the 5th (A) on the 5th fret on 6th string, the root (D) on the 5th fret on the 5th string
and the 3rd (F#) on the 4th fret on the 4th string. It sounds really dirty. I think that's known as an inversion but I'm not great on the theory .
Matthew Melton yes, I definitely do that and it pretty much makes all the difference! Turns it from power chords into Weezer chords.
Im late but i think he was using a big muff on the most distorted tracks
Fantastic Video!! Really enjoyed this Fluff!!
The "Blue Album" is the most significant mid 90's record in my opinion.
The guitar tone is a lot tighter than the Blue Album tone, because of the difference between the Boogie Mark I and Mark II. The MI has a bassman style tone stack after the gain stages. The MII switched to a blackface tone stack in between the gain stages to tighten up the distortion. That’s why Rivers switched to Marshalls after the Boogie broke, they had a similar topology and he liked the sound better.
Matt Sharp’s Orange Matamp blew a transformer and it took them forever to find one strong enough to replace it, so the bass on the Blue Album was played through an Ampeg B-15 that the studio had.
Not sure that's the reasoning but that is the biggest difference for me too
also the blue album was majority played through rivers red strat. I'm guessing the neck pickup, he did use the lp special but I'm guessing he only used it to rerecord croppers parts because alot of the sound is a dimarzio super 2 through the mesa head at about talking volume
@@luisr.c7099 Yeah, the base distorted tone is the neck pickup of his red Strat (it was a Dimarzio Humbucker From Hell actually) into his Mark I or his Marshall SL-X, doubled with the Les Paul Special into a Marshall-either the SL-X or one that Ric Ocasek brought in. The amps were recorded pretty quiet except for the feedback volume swells, those were dimed. I’ve never seen the red Strat not on the neck pickup. You can hear it basically on its own on the “I Swear It’s True” demo on the Blue Album Deluxe version. It had a coil split that created an almost no output jangly sound that you hear on the clean part of “Only In Dreams.”
Mate, do the guitar tone from Green Day's Dookie.
Paul A ZZZZZzzzzzzZZZZZZZzzzz
*bridge p90 -> overdriven plexi -> 90's tube screamer
B Mark wake up, septembers ended
Dookie drive pedal by mxr!
idleave that didnt exist in 94, try it with real amps instead
Really pumped I came across this channel. I searched for “rivers cuomo underrated guitar player” and came across this gem. Subbed!!!
Marshall cab is officially a 2032 cab. I think only produced for 5 or 6 years. Likely if Rivers got it original, that Greenbacks were pre Rola era!
"My name is jonas, here we go"
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I love your re creating guitar tone series. Really into the 2000’s pop punk / Emo bands
I’ve been waiting for this
Nice.
Now we'll need to hear a Green Day and FOB guitar tone. To get the Hella Mega trifecta!
Take this to your Grave!!! TONEEEEE
Brandon Cross pleaaaase
Brandon Cross i love that tone but i think cork tree’s tone is much more crunchier and polished. But still love both haha
I really appreciate these videos and how your using the studio gear. It's been a huge help for me to get ideas on how to use my own gear.
Any guitar tone from "the Egg" by shiner... Allen, Josh and Paul sounded so huge on that record.
I love this series. Have you ever put any thought into doing a classic metalcore albums like Killswitch’s End of Heartache or Trivium’s Ascendency
Yep! End Of Haertache is comjng
For the eeend of Myyuuuh
Brooooken Heeeeaaaarrrtuhttttr
Fluff, i love that your Blue album story is the same as mine. I practically wore that tape out listening to it while delivering papers in 1994. Still one of my all time favorites and favorite guitar tones.
i need that shirt you’re wearing lmaoo
It would be amazing to have a video recreating blink 182's Jerry Finn Enema of the state and take off your pants and jacket tone please 😁😊
Yes
Thanks for these recreation videos. These tones ain’t gonna kill themselves!
But where can I get the Epstein shirt. Lol
Rivers Cuomo is the unsung hero of modern guitar rock. He was initially in a glam metal band and then by the 90’s brought that huge rhythm sound to the Blue album with that old MK1 Boogie and his Black Ice preamp in his Warmoth Strat. His lead playing is super melodic too.
Great work Fluff - Sharp era Weezer rules.
Why didn't Ben play the intro on an acoustic guitar like it's supposed to be played? The Weezer crunch tone didn't have any treble.
This is amateur hour. You didn’t mention tuning down (which is why you couldn’t get the low mids that you mentioned... while blaming it on the lack of p90)... nor did you mention putting the 5th in the bottom of YT he power chord.
Im so amateur. You are clearly the pro. I bow to you Super Pro Guy.
Riffs, Beards & Gear , look dude, this info is readily available... and you skipped it... and it made you miss the guitar tone you were going for. Judging by the comments I’m not the only one who noticed. Anyone looking to get the blue album tone by using your advice is gonna miss the mark too.
Badass .... love this channel
DO Hum guitar tone.
thank you
Now would be a good time considering their recent album. They used a Boss DF2 and I have one but it sounds nothing like HUM so I'd love to see it
@@tyr4489 I had that pedal. It sounds almost exactly with a slightly different midrange and has the useless "feedback" feature.
I tell people just buy a DS1 and save your money. i guess if you buy into it buy an older DS1 that sounds better than the new ones.
@@travis43 Try the Ibanez PL5, even cheaper. I'd read they (or at least one of the guitarists) used these pedals. I was sceptical at first, but it really delivers that sound when used with high wattage tube amps
@@justinkase8642 That is one of those sound tank pedals from the 90's.
That is what Tim used when I saw them in 96.
@@travis43 Forgot if it was Tim or Matt, Matt used/s the DF-2, which I also have. You could just get a DS-1, but I really like the feedback option as well.
Omg... i love that shirt
That's the greatest shirt to ever exist.
Idk why but it makes me really happy when guys from my favorite TH-cam guitar channels get together, nice to see uncle Ben in this.
This video should be called, "Approximating Weezer's Blue Album Guitar Tone".
D Jefferson It doesnt sound like it at all to be honest. Tone aside, the guitars and drums are both just not even playing the right parts
Thanks for the cool vid Fluff!
Hey Fluff, great video! Always love seeing you dig in and dissect sounds you love, and you're a great player, too. As lusciously and respectfully as I can possibly be, I don't know that this came all that close to the Blue album sound for me.
You're totally correct that P90s have a lot to do with those low-mid sounds, but to my ear the power chords with a low 5th are also important, effectively gluing together Matt's bass and Rivers' rhythm guitars. And you got a good bass tone, but Matt's bass at the time had a pair of Jerry Jones pickups wired in series which is, again, part of the mystery behind the sound.
I have a video a few months back on my channel as well as a Helix patch for you to check out if you're interested! Let's chat!
Just stopping by to say, kick ass shirt bro. 🤘🏻
Guitar is missing some overdubs, believe the original rhythm tone was 4 tracks, neck pup left, neck pup right, bridge left, bridge right. And there's the element of the 'stacked' 5th chords that would make it that bit closer too.
Great attempt Fluff! Although for me the P90 is the most essential part of the tone. I’ll always remember how my Weezer guitar tone quest clicked, the moment I played a P90 guitar for the first time. Have been using single coil guitars for heavy music ever since.
I would love to see one of these for Faith No More's Angel Dust. Great shit Fluff
Nailed it! Well done fellas
I would love to see a stream/video where you show us how you got there, like when you sit down to mix one of these how you do it and narrate through your process.
Id love to see your best attempt at dime's tone!! I've never really heard anybody get very close.
I thought that a while back, he said he was working on a recreation for Far Beyond Driven...here's to hoping.
Ola did it many times.
Very true
@ola
That shirt is heavier than Master of Puppets.
Dude your shirt is kickass 🤘🏼
I like that you're using the Alternatives track feature in Logic. I never got around to learning how to actually use it. I probably should. It seems very useful.
This album was fantastic! Love this "Recreating" episode!
first video i've seen of yours and i loved it! can you please do a pavement video soon? malkmus rocks
I just listened to it back and forth with the original song, and I think you did a great job! I would suggest posting a link to the original song, or even include it in the video(yes monetization probably) would make this series complete!
Please do another one of these
I love your shirt man!! Where did you get it!
"Ain't no fun if the homies can't have none."
..this statements original use..
you nailed this one!
This is gonna be awesome
You should show a bit of how you dial in the amp on these, would help a lot of ppl out with how to approach amps 👍
Pretty damn good fluffy
That shirt kicks ass man 😂
That’s a trashteeshirts.com shirt
Cool episode. Sweet shirt😂
You have it - made me search for my old CD and turn it on very loud!
Very cool!
3:20 was when I noticed his shirt. It’s True ya know.
I feel like you have to go full on and get the original Mark I with a Gibson double-cut with P-90s. I stumbled upon and original Mark I and thankfully the music store had a newer Gibson DC junior. It definitely had the crunch, but it was tough dialing it in because there are push/pull gain knobs and it was hard to find the perfect combination. The guitar tone to me is one of the finest ever put to recording. I think playing it on a humbucker was a mistake if you're going for the album tone. My guess is Rivers got more crunch by using the neck pickup and then doubling every riff with the bridge pickup. I still can't figure out which pickup he used for the solos, except for the In The Garage, that one is DEF. the neck pickup. Then you have Rick's studio magic to account for - I think that's half the mystery too.
A great amp to look for is the Mitchell Pro 100. Rivers Mesa was a weird offshoot that wasn’t really a Boogie, but the Mitchell is very close. I have one and love it!
awesome!!
That shirt is pretty great
Another key element of the tone is how the guitars and bass are basically playing a huge power chord together. Rivers for instance always plays the 6th snare as the lowest (not always the fundamental) note in his chord.
Nice video, great shirt.
We NEED a dookie recreation
No we don’t.
Dude you should do some blink tones. Any era what ever you feel would be most fun.
I’ve been so obsessed with this tone lately
Nice. I tried doing this back in April when my axefx arrived! Apparently, I was a lot closer equipment-wise than I thought!
It's so weird that you released this today. Earlier today, I was thinking about how it was my ideal guitar tone and how I should look it up and see how it was done.
You pretty much nailed the tone straight away, props for that. I never knew it was a Mesa head that was used. Nice shirt too lol
Bro I need that shirt 😂 also this video is great thank you!!
Great job. You nailed it. Put the blue album on immediately after.
So happy I found this video !! Been wondering since 1994 how they got this tone !
Dude, I totally dig the shirt
I read in a magazine years ago ric ocasik had them roll down the tone knobs and they boosted high end somewhere later in the chain. Seems weird but I'm pretty sure it's right
this is a super informative video!! do you have any advice about how beginners to production (like me) can learn how to produce more professional sounds (other than by using this channel which has been v helpful lol)? my background is all theory, and mixing mastering and recording is a v daunting process for me
Great t-shirt!!!!
I am excited.
Would really like to hear the sound CKY has on CKY Vol. 1 or Infiltrate-Destroy-Rebuild done by you
These are a lot of fun.
Liked in the first 3 seconds just because of that shirt bro
I'd love to see you tackle Pinkerton!
Love your shirt m8
OMG - I just now noticed the shirt! I love it!! I wore an Operation Enduring Clusterf*ck Covid 19 shirt in one of my vids that slipped past many. What was this video about again? Old age is a helluva drug! 🤓🎸🤘🏻
Love the shirt
The key to Blue Album tone - as is widely known - is to have the amp's volume very low (even without miking the actual speaker, and instead using a cabsim, this is still important, as an anp's Output stage imparts gain; it isn't only the preamp gain that shapes the tone/distortion; also, volume affects how the Mic reacts to the sound).
This is awesome! I'd love to see a video on recreating Blink-182's Enema Of The State guitar tone
Where can I get that shirt
I would love to see your take on something like Royal Blood!
I would really like a video like this with pinkertons getchoo. It would be really useful for me to see a professional do it as im up for the same task with a school project. I'm going to play all of pinkerton in concert, so i really have a lot to think of haha.
A few years ago the guys at Mike & Mike's Guitar Bar in Seattle did an insane deep dive on replicating Weezer's Warmoth guitars--Rivers's blue Strat and Matt Sharp's P-bass. They also formed a cover band called My Name Is Jonas Brothers and played a few gigs around the city. Check out "Weezerquest" on their blog. It's got a lot of in-depth info.
I’d love to see you try an Alkaline Trio record 🤘🏻
It was a late 50's Les Paul DC Special, Juniors only have one pickup.
That shirt is EPIC!!!
I guess I need a five foot tall 4x12 cabinet. Thanks Fluff, I never knew that was a thing, even though I have a thirty by thirty inch 2x12.
Bought the CD new the week of release. Still listen to the album today. Just this week as a matter of fact.