Recreating Nirvana's Nevermind Guitar Tone!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2024
- Let's see how close I can come to recreating Kurt Cobain's legendary guitar tone on the Nirvana album Nevermind!
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Sounds pretty damn close.. But I'm also getting that "sounds like a djent band that did a Nirvana cover" vibe from it.
I think that's the bass. My first impression, like knee jerk reaction, was it sounded nothing like the original. Then I listened closer and I think it's just that the bass is a bit louder in the mix and is maybe missing a bit of highs and then an actual human to play it. The guitars weren't far off. A real drummer and drum kit would help too
Evan O'Riordan I think the bass isn’t as much to blame as the tight precision in Fluff’s touch. Kurt played so loose, relaxed, all over the place dynamically and rhythmically Kurt would describe it as being “not a good guitar player” but I don’t think that’s an accurate way to describe it.
It’s the MIDI drums, most Djent bands will sample replace all of the drums and then time align them, making it sound very fake, cuz at that point it basically is lol
Djent and fluff taste great together
I think it's the bass. It needs to have more depth and knock down a hair of that upper mid. And Fluff busied it up a little.
th-cam.com/video/FAuPgMPBEOk/w-d-xo.html
Kurt's tones were actually nice throughout Nirvana's active years
Yeah, they started lacking in their downtime though.
Agreed, completely inaudible in the inactive years
I just couldn't hear him when he wasn't playing. Don't know why.
@@revhappyrs2k Yeah Nirvana definitely started as soon as Kurt was born and he didn’t have a guitar tone before Nirvana 🙏
Heee's the one
Who likes recreating tones
And he likes to mix alone
And he likes to shoot his amps
But he don't know what it meeeeans
Don’t know what it means
Abby Henkin he said it as part of the joke lol
Abby Henkin r/woooosh
Abby Henkin your getting wooshed by an idiot who doesn't know how to use it dude
Recreate Refused’s The Shape of Punk to Come
This is the way.
this
Can I scream!?
That would be great!!!
Fluff liked this, it’s a sign!!!
Can we applaud the guitar tone that Post Malone had on his charity stream of Nirvana songs? It sounded great
Vocals were amazing too!
Those covers were surprisingly good
Completely changed my opinion on Post, he killed it!
Alex La Padula dudes a rockstar that decided to rap, he was in a few deathchore bands (i believe) and theres some fun footage of him
That show was fucking great. Love that they also started off with Frances Farmer instead of the better-known stuff.
I love how Kurt did his thing. “Well, I broke my last setup? I’ll just buy another one and improvise with it.” He literally will adapt when he needs to and whatever he needs to.
Broke as in, smashed lol
''He literally will adapt when he needs to and whatever he needs to.'' Like everyone with half a brain.
Youve gotta change chords sloppier to get the harmonics happening otherwise it doesn't sound right
Kurt used a lot of pick raking between chord changes, frequently producing string harmonics. It's this stuff played "between the notes" that really defined his rhythm playing. Most people never bother to learn these parts, since the people compiling guitar tabs never bother to include notation for the rakes.
@@fpsknifer9906 Who even needs tabs for Nirvana?
@@HenritheHorse beginners
Two finger bar chords.
I don't think you need the Mesa Boogie .22 preamp and the actual cabinet to get that sound. It's pretty easy to get with amp simulation; just use a Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier, half stack with or without a DS-1 a distortion pedal. A Crunch amp model with the pedal could work too. It also sounds like Butch doubled Kurt's guitar to make it sound bigger on the album. I actually really dig that 'buzz saw' guitar sound of the PNW back in the day. Reminded me of lumberjacks with flannels cutting down trees.
*Me playing my Katana on the 0.5 Watt setting*
"Damn it sounds just like it!"
Lol I know right. That “brown” setting is pretty sweet 😝
I want a katana now
Bro. I managed to get the "come as you are" tone with the help of a TC Electronic Afterglow Chorus pedal. little tweaking and it sounded exactly like the record
Funny thing is Kurt didn't even like Nevermind's production , he was into the dirty noisy stuff
Yeah, so In Utero
Pokètrainer Red *bleach
eouroshopper *both
true, but without nevermind sound, Cobain would have stayed unknown or known about only a few deap around Seattle and In utero would have never seen the light.that s the real truth......
that was just a rumour
Do songs for the deaf - Queens of the Stone Age
find the shittiest amp, the shittiest cab and max the mids on your boost, and add an EQ pedal just to boost 5k to max. then tune down to C# standard. do those simple things you'll sound bang-on 99% of the time.
YES YES YES
Ryan Zeigler Lmao, you’re probably not far from the actual rig though. That album is basically garage rock so I don’t think gear was a major concern for band,
Yes please.
This this correct answer.
Honestly your post processing with the ssl sim made it worse, I know as a producer it’s hard to accept that raw tone of the ds1 and the “buzzsaw” sound as you called it, but it sounded more accurate that way
Hi! Kurt's live rig was definitely DS-1 and Small Clone into the Mesa Studio Preamp, with various Crown power amps into Marshalls. I'm not sure if we were that picky which drivers they were loaded with until we got Earnie Bailey on board as guitar tech. I don't think the live rig was used to record Nevermind, however. Still, your stuff sounds good!
Would love to see recreating Green Day's Dookie tone 😌
look up Pete Thorn Dookie drive it sounds exactly like the album
I wonder how he'd achieve it, you'd either need a Dookie mod or maybe the pedal they released last year. Fucking kickass tone.
Easily in my top 10 guitar tones. It was better captured on Dookie than in Insomniac.
@@ghoulannabanana they cost alot of money
Insomniac sounds better
It annoys me that you didn't include the scratching in In Bloom, the song feels so empty without it idk
“The white stripes”Girl you have no faith in medicine tone recreate
Yesssss
Tone request: Metallica, circa Black album era. Queens of the Stone Age, Rated R era. Gojira, Magma.
Gorjira should be easy, but I have always wanted a Black album recreation with live gear. Anything QOTSA is welcome.
Songs for the deaf era 💪
Lmao do we just wanna see a mark iic++ on this channel? Because I do
I’d rather the Gojira L’Enfant Sauvage era tone
Black would be a bitch to recreate. I've read that they actually carried the studio cabs around with the same mic placement as the studio. Closest I've gotten is with a dual rectifier on the red channel. I had to eq the hell out of it though to get that dark sound that it had. I dimed the amp and just adjusted from there
Recreate At The Drive-In’s Relationship in command tone!
Yesss,
YES PLEASE
I don't know if you're a My Bloody Valentine fan but doing a Loveless track would be a cool challenge.
Let's hope this would happen.
Recreate ride the lightning tone?? 🤤
This needs to happen
I'm definitely for this
It is actually not that hard. Marshall JMP 2203 with a Tubescreamer in the front, high output humbuckers (SD JB or Gibson Dirty Fingers will do it) and a Marshall cab with G12T-65 speakers. Tried it with my Greenback cab and it was almost spot on.
Oh and some reverb
Marshall jcm 800 with Ibanez tube screamer. Treble 9 middle 1 bass 6 presence 0. At least that was Hetfields part. The tracking in studio was done at around 425 ish hertz at a lower tempo and sped up in to album tempo post. So at 440 A you'll sound a little off from the recording. The recording will be a little sharp from your tuning.
@@lassetrier5058 what your hearing on the album is the altered raw tone of any artist. Unless you were in the room nobody knows what the Metallica tone is. All the cut mids tells me it was more akin to an ice pick to the ears than the final product.
Almost impossible to recreate the nevermind tone since there are multiple tracks with different amps blended together. The mesa, and fender bassman were all multi tracked together.
You definitely won't get it perfect, but it's not hard to get close with good equipment
you need like one pedal to get the main nevermind clean tone, the distortion was just basically default ds1. the tricky one is on songs like drain you where you have to make it sound really big and heavy somehow
@@mr.mustang656 Drain you was six guitar tracks I believe all with various levels of distortion and different eq. It was all blended together by Butch who tricked Kurt into recording the guitar part over and over again
Usually no matter what gear you use, you always sound like you. Which is great. However, you sound totally different using that gear on this one. I loved it.
Queens of the Stone Age’s Era Vulgara or ...Like Clockwork or System of a Down - Toxicity?
Would rather songs for the deaf era, just my opinion anyway hahaha, toxicity would be sick.
Hell yeah vulgaris is dope, it's got some of their kookiest riffs haha
There's already a lot on Songs for the Deaf tone on TH-cam I'd much rather hear someone have a go at Era's tones
Get yourself an ampeg VT40, stone Deaf PDF, a decent delay and all the mids you can find and you’re in the Homme neighborhood
Sounds awesome fluff. Really well done.
I prefer your pop punk songs on mic vids to be honest lol
Didn't expect to see you here!
Hi bandrew
Dude that was on point. I think Weezer's Say it aint So would be a cool sound to recreate
Your wish is his command obviously 😌 He's doing the blue album today!
@@Hcatz123 oh damn. Thanks for the heads up!
The "chorusy tone" to me (and what I read or watched concerning this album) comes from several takes of the same riff on many of the tracks. But I might be wrong.
Good take on this tone, well done !
That is exactly correct.
Correct but this is good for one amp and guitar :)
yeah just watch Butch talking about Drain you.
There is definitely many layered guitar tracks. Butch didn’t even try to hide it. It’s apart of the sound for sure.
That was definitely a big part of it, but there are many spots on that record where he also used an Electro-Harmonix Poly Chorus pedal.
Would love to see a recreation of Gojira’s From Mars to Sirius guitar tone.
Or any gojira tone tbh
Or the way of all flesh
Peavey 5150 or 6505 on the green channel with a tube screamer and a mahogany body guitar with a Duncan JB. Thats the tone
@@-sailhatan- They use EVHs on the modern stuff, I don't know about the first few records. Also, mahogany? Pfffff tonewood is a myth
Yaasssss guurrrllllll!! I’ve been waiting for this!!!!!!!! Should do in utero as well 😏😏
imho - the bass is too dirty, so dirty that it sounds djenty - the sound overall, not just the bass. It sounds like ... your intro? idk
I was sure that guitar was spec'd to Kurt's Mustang =] Love it.
I could have swore that was a literal million of tracks overlayed on this album. Not really able to exact match such a thing. Good job on that
Sounded awfully burley and lacking in top end for the guitar.
I agree with DJ on this the album version was more chorus-y which pulls in more of that treble-y edge. His mids are pretty spot on but overall a little muffled compared to the recorded track.
And also remember he detuned to avoid copyright
@Luke sounded nothing like the original
The equipment that recorded the record (i.e. preamps//eq//mics//etc) shapes those last bits a lot.
Do note that the recording have a few guitars and amps tracked together
UAD EQP-1A on everything. I do the same exact thing. My man! This sounds super accurate to me. I'd actually say you could add in a little more chorus after that cab. There's a lot of modulation on the album rhythm tone to my ears. Cool vid!
Along with the Ramones first album, Nevermind is the reason I play guitar.
Excellent reasons.
Very much exited, could we see the other nirvana albums?
Yus! Although recreating the tone of sappy would give you the ball park for most songs so maybe that would be enough?
Half-step down makes me think of a certain Melvins song, that I can't remember the name of.
Love all your videos buddy! Keep it up!
Kurt used V30's in his cabs for the In Utero tour. He gave his 75 loaded cabs to Pat smear. Kurt preferred the sound on the V30's. Also the combo version of the Studio 22 has a vintage speaker.
I would love if you could try and recreate Chuck's tone from Death's The Sounds of Perseverance. One of my favourite metal recordings of all time!
My dad perked up when I played "i just don't know what to do with myself " by the White Stripes.
I've always been loved his clean tone
sounds fantastic! i’ve always suspected that there was a Big Muff track behind the ds-1/bassman tracks that’s was EQ’d super hard similar to Lithium.
Plug in a ds-1 and thats it
Felipe Cuello and a small clone dont forget
@@eeshsinger oh yeah, and also that.
goddamn... that's a million times better than I could do
What I heard though.... it's kinda missing the fizz on the top (that I think you cut out...) and that bit of "noise" between chords on the verse sections. That little noise might be my fav part
I lovvve the background music during the talky talky bits. hahaha so cheesy, and funny. Really good video, bro. I'm a huge fan of Nirvana, and "In Bloom" was a great pick for the idealistic Nirvana tone. Do another from In Utero! The tones from that one were even more insane!
The "In Bloom" guitar sound is almost impossible to approximate unless you're using a few key pieces of gear. The one thing you're missing here is an EHX Small Clone chorus effect. Most people would overlook this, mistakenly believing that all chorus effects sound pretty much the same. You need to understand that the Small Clone is a very unique effect, which doesn't sound like any other chorus pedal on the market. With the "depth" switch up, as Kurt used it, the Small Clone has more voices than a generic chorus effect, and if placed after a gain pedal, it trails off with these harmonic overtones which were a distinct element of Kurt's guitar sound. This pedal is so unique that even EHX's own nano version of the Small Clone doesn't sound anything like the big box unit. This pedal is by far the most important piece of gear you need to reproduce Kurt's Nevermind era guitar sound.
Always a great tone: Jack White/"Ball and a Biscuit". Recreating Meg would be a break from Dave Grohl, for sure.
Yeah dude fluff your amazing at what you do your a very talented youtuber but the elephant in the room is that you made this waaaaay too clean. Honestly letting the DS-1 do its thing would've been closer to what kurt wanted and letting the feedback come in would've been a cool humbling feature on your part because most of your guitar vids are very clean.
The video still rocks good job!
Been listening all albums of Nirvana (alot) since 1997 and can tell this is a very good 'mix'! I dont even need to dig Nevermind album out to confirm for myself that the original song does match with this. I have most off if not all songs so deep in my brain that I can easily notice a noticable difference
What's also different is the way he played the song. Kurt didn't use raw power chords but he hit the high notes like the 4th for F shapes and the major 3rd for A shapes. But the tone is amazing anyway.
Are you taking suggestions? I'd love one for Just by Radiohead!
Didn’t watch it all yet. Already know it’s good.
Butch Vig is like "Hold my Beer"
My dad loved Nirvana too. He had all the original Beatles, Kinks, Rolling Stone records and he totally ate up Nevermind.
Can you recreate Dookie's guitar tone by Green Day?
Bored
Dookie drive. Easy
Besides the music man, it was pretty good, the tone is not bad (the bass especially, it sounds amazing, for a programmed bass at least), but it doesn't sound 100% like the original, In nevermind kurt most probably used a stratocaster with a humbucker on it, he used a lot of those, especially in studio, there is even a photo of the strat he trashed on the song endless nameless,
I doubt he used a strat for the album. I can see him using it in endless nameless, but for the rest, my bet it was a Jaguar or Mustang.
I'm sure someone else has pointed out that the DS-1 was only on one of the guitar tracks according to Butch. He had like 3, maybe 4 guitar tracks to the whole song. There's a video on TH-cam of him explaining the mix in loose detail. They played the Mesa, a Bassman of some year, and the Vox. I wish I knew more, but it's pretty obvious that the stacking of the amps together acted as a thickener in a couple of different ways. The multiple tones getting mixed by ear acted as a natural EQ for Butch, and also the multiple takes and the delays added made the guitar mix sound very full. I love the DS-1, and all the Boss distortions derived from it, but using one of those alone is typically not the best way to get the sound of Kurt.
In Bloom, one of my faves. Like yourself, i remember walking into a room and both my parents glued to the In Bloom video. Was the first of 'my' music they showed interest in.
Kinda cool we have the same name. I just didnt have a dad
Doesn’t really sound like any of the studio or live versions that I’ve heard. Would’ve liked to have heard it through the actual amp and speakers rather than through digital approximations of them.
my thoughts exactly
I hate computers and making music on them😭
Agreed.
According to Butch Vig, they used two tracks of a Fender Bassman, two tracks of the Mesa, and one track of the bassman + ds1.
Gotta give props and credit to Butch Vig too. He knows his stuff, and had a big part in getting In Bloom to get it to sound the way we it does
add chorus to the bass too that’s what Andy Wallace does to every bass. Rick Beato broke down his method of mixing Nevermind not too long ago. Awesome sound tho I have been into nirvana for a while since I was 15 even have bought all the vintage pedals for our Nirvana Tribute band and I could never get that sound from back when I was 15 with either the DS1 or DS2 that he changed to later. So I tried out a lot of pedals at that time back then and I ended
up getting the sound from a Boss Hyper metal and the older heavy metal pedals. NOT THE METAL ZONE too fizzy. Maybe those pedals had a closer sound to the speaker combo sound you figured out. Great video
Yeah, the bass on the album is cleaner than the sound in this video. But it does have chorus on it. It's a cheap Yamaha rack effects box that Andy Wallace likes to use.
Ahhh.... the ol' HM-3 Hyper Metal .. it's kinda like an HM-2 Heavy Metal but with more mid range. I have both of them and usually preferred the 2
Try matching Meshuggah’s live tone next! Cheers.
Gotta drink viking blood and eat whole elks.
Jason King Don’t forget the Surströmming.
Ryan I personally think you nailed it! I’ve watched a ton of your videos and I think this is the best work you’ve done. Thank you so much for the hard work and the awesome video.
Dude, first time viewer, this is really good, thanx.
The drum track is originaly created by Chad Channing, not Dave Grohl.
The drum line is from Chad but who recorded for Nevermind is Dave
The only track on Nevermind were is Chad playing it’s polly
This guy looks and sounds like Sam Hyde's friend, Nick Rochefort
Great recreation Fluff!!
May I suggest recreating Dimebag’s tone from Cemetery Gates or walk?
Hell yeah brother!! I freakin love this 🔥🔥🔥🤘🏾
The snare isn't snappy enough. It sounds way to deflated. That crispness isnt there. Tighten it up a tad.
yes!! was waiting for this one!! edit: i think it sounds a lot closer without the ssl but maybe thats just me
Yeah buddy! Nice work as always.
Really love these type of vids!!!
Dude very close awesome stuff man love it
In Bloom was the very first Nirvana song I ever heard, on vinyl, played by my father - who is still stuck in the grunge era. And it’s always been my FAVORITE song they ever made. 🤘🏼 great job, brother.
When covering a Meshuggah song you need this mindset "don't fuck it up!!" When covering a Nirvana song you need this mindset "Fuck it." he used 2 fingers to form power chords, he fully embraced imperfections.
wild. a DS-1, a mark series preamp, and T75's, all things i completely hate, but together it works.
Kurt actually used a Boas DS-2, he destroyed his DS-1 in early 1991
I would love to see a Korn follow the leader recreation
The chorusing could be Andy Wallace using a lexicon multi effects processor on a Ensemble setting that adds stereo width and detuning. He would add some 3K to the guitars as well to make them cut. The Kurt tone on nevermind is largely due to Andy Wallace. Rick Beato does an excellent Andy Wallace video as well. Awesome video and find with the speakers in the cab! This made my day
Part of the magic of the sound comes from the live room at sound city
That sounded very close, nice man! I'd like to hear what you did with the clean tone too.
The thing is that all the metal youtubers sound the same for some reason, to me the tone didn’t sound close at all, tone is in the fingers too so that affects, so it just ended sounding like a metal band covering Nirvana
Let’s not forget the extensive volume automation Andy does on each instrument, it’s a big reason his stuff sounds the way it does. Really awesome video
Thanks for this Fluff, I found it interesting and appreciate your explanation of both yours and Nirvana's recording.
I don’t know man, I swear nirvana’s tone on this album was brighter. Maybe it’s just me, or maybe it’s the pickups, but I swear it has more treble than this.
Edit: yeah, fluff got this one wrong. I listened to the song fluff played. The tone does have more treble, more scooped mids, and definitely more of a chainsaw sound.
Krist’s bass especially has that jazz bass kind of scooped sound, the midi bass here has too much mids and not nearly enough lows. Doesn’t sound as deep and powerful
somebody else commented it sounds like a metal band covering nirvana and I have to agree
never heard a DS1 sounding this good
Recreate System of A Down Toxicity album tone!🤘🙏
Damn that sounds good Ryan
THIS IS AWESOME! Please can you do a Mick Mars / Mötley Crüe tone video
Andy Wallace’s chorus effect was a rack unit Yamaha SPX90 set on preset 15. He used it on Krist’s bass and probably Kurt’s guitar too. You can really hear it on the 3-note bass break in On A Plain. Apparently he always uses it on every bass track he mixes. I’ve been looking for a plug-in simulation of it and apparently that doesn’t exist. So I’m gonna try and pick up a rack unit. They aren’t too expensive and I’m sure I can find uses for some other presets.
Yes. Sir.
Holy Cow that's the best I have ever heard a DS1 sound. Fantastic recreation 👏👏👏 You should do videos to show how you can make some of the most hated pedals sound great. If anyone can do it, it's probably you!
I recorded a Version of In Bloom i 2010 with Sound setup in Vst Drums Slate Kontakt , (Nevermind Kit) and a Ampeg bass amp , To get to get the Fuzz sound i used Messaboogie Throtttle Stomp Box pedal , not the Big Eq and you cut little mid tone and there you go , , for the Clean sound i used a a clean sound and a little chorus , and it sounds very , very Similar . Just some tips to you Fellow Nirvanas Btw for the schratching sound between some chords , lift you fingers , to get that subble feed ,Play a little loose and you get it right , that you can hear on the origninal
:)
I agree about the post-processing chorus. It was quite common to add in the mix in those days. It's very prominent on the clean sections of this song. Kurt's way of using a chorus pedal was different, with a faster wobbly rate, better heard on the live shows.
This is wonderful man - amazing attention to detail, thanks & subbed! 👍😀
Kurt's Mustangs, Sunburst Jaguar with humbuckers, and the Jag-Stang all have a 24" scale. That may have also effected the tone. But, he also got a lot of Japanese Fenders and other cheap stuff from pawn shops for playing live so he could smash them. He only played the Jag-Stangs a few times live, but I have seen them in a couple concerts from just before he died.
This is amazing. This channel is amazing.
Bass sounds perfect, drums are perfect, guitar perfect
his 69' mustang is the guitar where the famous nevermind tone mostly came from
Please make this a series! i love this