Elesa’s B2W2 gym isn’t a puzzle: it’s a spectacle, and a damn good one at that. The runway slowly becoming more illuminated and the music growing as you make your way through the trainers and to Elesa. The vibes are simply electrical, it’s amazing to experience (even with it being a straight line)
@@lmaolol7702 Bad game design would be something like Lt. Surge's gym, which is literally all RNG. You can't really solve Surge's gym, you just hope that the RNG is on your side - literally just an annoying trial and error that wastes your time if you keep getting unlucky. It tries to be a puzzle and it fails at it. As for Elesa, the absence of a puzzle cannot qualify as bad game design, because the gym is not trying to be a puzzle. Elesa's gym being a catwalk fits very well with the fact she's a model, which is great gameplay-story integration; it's 10/10 theming and spectacle as mentioned above. I much rather have more gyms like that, but I do understand that's subjective, since some people prefer solving puzzles over pure spectacle.
fun fact about kabu's gym: i found out a day after swsh launched during my playthrough that none of the encounters in there are shiny locked. it's how i got my first ever shiny litwick.
Personally i really like a lot of the "its a really simple maze but its a really cute setpiece" gyms you brushed past because they tend to look like somethibg that the gym leader put a lot of passion and creativity into designing, like walkinf through Eirika's garden/greenhouse is really cute! I really dont like the ones that amount to battling in empty rooms or hallways with one exception, my favorite gym is actually the only one you completely missed. JANINE'S, yeah its the exact same invisible maze as her father's, but having all her trainers be disguised as her AND one in the traditional "gym leader spot" was REALLY clever and plays on player's expectations well into the post game and plays into her Ninja theme WAY better than Koga ever did. I just wish she got more recognition as the only sequel only gym locked to postgame.
Ragegamingvideos solving Larry's puzzle first try was astounding as he didn't know what he was supposed to choose he just knew it was a special food item and went with what he would have chosen. Also solving Larry's food puzzle seems to have killed some people because they show the would be arena full and then a loud noise, screen goes black and the people are gone.
Fantina's gym in Platinum does do something unique tho. It's one of, if not the only gym where you looking at trainers will cause rhem to turn and challenge you. Plus the fact that youbhavr to actually physically find the correct path with your narrow cone of light feels more impactful than just waljing around blind
Fantina's gym being so easy is even worse when you consider failing it is the only way you can see a Drifloon outside of Friday. I'm not sure about platinum, but it makes diamond and pearl's dex requirement even worse.
The worst part of fantinas gym in d/p/pt is one of the optional trainers has a drifloon, the only way to see one to unlock the national dex, otherwise your player is forced to wait to see the Friday valley wind works one. Meaning it’s optimal here to go out of your way and get easy questions wrong for the extra battles
I'm kinda shocked you missed Drayden's B2W2 puzzle, it's basically a simpler form of what Norman's gym does (different trainers with special traits with their battles), but what really elevates it for me is the spectacle of riding the Dragon's head up and watching it clash with the opposite dragon There's a few other gyms that you straight up skipped over talking about as well, when they really should've been talked about considering their differences from the original versions (such as Janine and HGSS Blaine)
I honestly despise all teleport tile gyms, definitely below the straight paths for me. And this is coming from a guy that thought the dollhouse was the coolest looking gym ever.
I put a lot of effort to make this puzzle in my head, so if your reading this then rate my puzzle as a ghost type gym leader. The puzzle is called: illusion step. There will be a mirror that has a 5/7-10 tiles colored purple. The reason why there is a mirror is because the floor is an illusion. There will be a trail of an oddly color of purple. If there is an odd square that is the odd purple color, that means that there will be a trainer there. If you walk on a normal purple colored tile, you will fall but with the same backround that you see before you fell. I put a lot of effort on this concept in my head, and i even named it, so give me some credit and rate it 1/10 - 10/10.
Medali gets bonus points for me for having a talking parrot as part of it. Most disappointing is Montenevera since we never get to do that rap battle. They could have done it like a cross between the opera puzzle from Final Fantasy 6 and how karaoke works in the Yakuza series where you would have to remember lyrics and put them out to a rhythm (maybe going to language class could tie into this as well)
I don't remember which gym it was, but one of the quiz gyms (I think its Normad's Gym) has a trainer in the wrong path that has a version exclusive Pokemon, the only copy of that Pokemon in a specific version. The problem with this was the National Dex was locked behind having all the pokemon in the Pokedex, as well as the Northwestern Island Post Game zone as a whole. As such, if you are playing a specific version and MISS THAT TRAINER in a random room in a gym, without friends to trade you that exclusive pokemon, you are locked out of the Post Game content. That gym, is my least favourite gym in the game.
Snowpoint Gym is my personal hell. I recognize it as a good puzzle but it makes me realize I don't actually want good puzzles in a Pokemon game if it's gonna be like this.
I like to battle all the gym trainers so i often will do 99% of wallaces gym puzzle and then fall through the floor anyway just to stunt on him. In that subject i think we should deduct a shit load of points from fantina’s gym because if you get all the questions right you miss the only trainer in the game who has a drifloon which makes it so you can’t unlock the national dex without encountering it in the wild. There is an entirely real situation where you couldn’t play the post game for seven whole days just because you did a piss easy puzzle correctly.
In my opinion, the best Pokemon Gym puzzle came from the Roblox game Pokemon Brick Bronze, in the final gym. The player was transported inside a giant cube, and they had to navigate from side to side, but only if the two sides had a little platform which lined up. There were little kiosks scattered throughout which allowed the player to view the interior laid out flat, as well as move the sides around, but they could only exit the kiosk if the formation of the sides would allow it to fold neatly back up into a cube.
Wow, our opinions on gym puzzles are so different. You rate simple quiz puzzles way higher than I would and the reason for rating Erika's HGSS puzzle almost last makes no sense to me. Why does it matter whether the puzzle makes sense in-universe or not? At worst it's still a maze, so it should never rank lower then the straight line gyms but it also looks very pretty, so it would be way higher for me.
You absolutely can randomly guess the order in Larry's gym as I've done it on both of Paldea playthroughs! (They were a year apart too, so I didn't just remember it the second time.)
14:50 While I can’t say anything for Bea, it makes sense for Allister because of Sinistea and Polteageist, two ghost types in Sword and Shield that possess a teacup and kettle respectively
I was expecting Blaine to be much lower for getting 2 of his own questions wrong in the originals! I personally think Viola's gym is one of the worst because there's no way out until you beat Viola, so you can't go and heal between trainers. Conceptually I don't mind that too much, but this is the first gym of the game, so you're not likely to have much money for healing items yet. And to make it even worse, no one tells you that you can't get out. I went in and started fighting all the trainers, then to my horror realised I'd have to face the gym leader without healing. They effectively turned the first gym into bad knockoff of the Elite Four with no warning! Also, embarrassing admission: in my first playthrough of gen 2, it took me ages to work out Chuck's puzzle of just 3 boulders
Based on what he said about Norman’s Gym, Drayden’s would presumably also be quite high. I’d be curious to see where Skyla’s second gym ended up, though.
We actually agree on the best gym puzzle, even though I disagree on a lot of the other entries. For me personally, the worst puzzle is Stow-on-Side because it is stupidly over-the-top, feels very random and is not fun to do. Only way it could have been worse is in first person - that much spinning is terrifying.
Call me a nostalgia nerd but I really liked the puzzles from Sabrina's gym and Giovanni's gym from gen 1 and the clones of those two types of puzzles. Hoenn feels a little redundant with Flannery and Tate Liza using the same teleporting mechanic in Emerald version, but I like the aspect of memorising the pattern to be a fun little challenge that applies to both gyms. Agreed that Valerie's version in the doll house fits thematically the best. I like for the Viridian gym that Blue keeps the same puzzle that Giovanni used years ago. Of course the pattern is different to make it a little more challenging. Lore wise it feels cool that Blue takes ownership of the gym and improves on what the former owner had. And I like how Tate and Liza use the arrow tiles in the base Ruby and Sapphire games. Makes it memorable for me and like the gym and the leaders even more given how they actually have major differences between versions, not just the double battle team. My top favourite is definitely Wynona. The puzzle is unique. Takes a while to memorise the pattern. Wynona as a leader also has the first truly challenging team I faced. Uniqueness and difficulty wise, Wynona takes my vote for best. Definite second place is Tate and Liza with both puzzles because I just love both.
absolutely aggree on the #1 puzzle omega rubin was the first game i played and a friend let me play on his 3ds and let me try to solve the puzzle oras have stayed my fav games ever since and this is my fav gym puzzle also i cant mention enough how good of a feature the eon flute was and how sad i am that we never got a similar mechanic were you could only find certain spots (mirage spots) via this method ye in sv you can glide but thats not the same imo
As a kid I hated the Fusha and Snowpoint gym because I did not know the way to get to them. For Fusha I never played the original so I did not know what path I needed to take and for Snowpoint as a kid I spend like 2 hours to get to the gym leader but also I thought I needed to destory all snowballs. But now they are fine gym puzzels
When i played pearl for the first time and did fantinas gym i never had to fight any trainers as i got the questions right. The fact i had to deliberately answer wrong in diamond and bdap to fight some trainers is in my opinion bad game design. I would have had a trainer in each room regardless of if the answer was right or wrong but thats just my opinion.
I found the instructions pretty clear tbh. You just have to find people to battle they will give you an answer and you have to follow it. After that go around town and there are some hints that the townspeople and the parrot drop.
@@mysticmongrel1289 No when you register yourself as a challenger in the Medali Gym the guy at the counter says and I quote “Right now there are three other challengers around town attempting this Gym Test. Each challenger has been given a different clue that’ll help them discover the secret dish. You’ll be given a clue as well. Please find and battle the other challengers. The loser must tell the winner their clue! Your goal is to gather clues and use them to determine the secret dish, then order it from the waiter in the Treasure Eatery. Only the challenger who’s able to order correctly will pass the test Your secret clue is to find out how the regulars season their dishes.” Actually I should have read the last sentence when I first played because it makes sense why no one told you to ask the Office Worker NPC or Larry for the last hint because it was the first hint you received.
@@mysticmongrel1289 Yes the guy at the Medali Gym the guy at the counter says: “Right now there are three other challengers attempting their Gym Test. Each challenger has been given a different clue that’ll help them discover the secret dish. You’ll be given a clue as well. Please find and battle the other challengers. The loser must tell the winner their clue! Your goal is to gather clues and use them to determine the secret dish, then order it form the waiter from the Treasure Eatery. Your clue is to find out how the regulars season their dishes. I’d suggest you start by hearing what a regular at the Treasure Eatery has to say!” If I properly read out the last sentences then I should have known that there is a reason why no one tells you to ask the Office Worker NPC or Larry because it is the first clue that is given out to you.
Fairy doll house xy not really the puzzle because that's like Sabrina gym in gen 1 but the aesthetic is too good Again same logic psychic cosmo space gym xy Gen 3 flying type gym now it's really just the puzzle really fun to solve Hoehn again but gen 6 remake version of the last gym thin ice water type It's a really fun puzzle that I think can be solved with imagination and creativity because there are multiple solutions Worst is obviously gen 1 3rd gym lt surge after you get cut the trash bins Smh
I hate the snowpoint city gym. When I play pokemon I turn my brain off, but trying to figure out the right path to pop the snowballs when you are sliding so quickly from one spot to another just gets annoying after you miss 3 or 4 or times. It is my absolute least favorite, below even original red and blue surge.
Brassius' gym puzzle was great, frame rate can't change the fact that the game and EVERYTHING it contains are top 3 in the franchise, only behind the Hoenn and Sinnoh games, and right above the Galar games
For all the boomer Pokémon fans always complaining oh nds era peaked Pokémon isn't as good as the old days Gym puzzles seem to be getting better and better
Literally at 6 years old I figured out you can just save scum Surge's gum puzzle lol. It doesn't reset when you save and reload, so just find the first one, save, and reload until you find the second one. I wouldn't rank it anywhere near the bottom lol, Clay's gym is THE worst in the games. It takes way too long and I literally couldn't care less about his dumb lifts lol
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Jasmine's puzzle is the lighthouse, that's why there's no puzzle in the gym itself.
Jasmine's puzzle is the lighthouse AND the medicine subquest!
Elesa’s B2W2 gym isn’t a puzzle: it’s a spectacle, and a damn good one at that. The runway slowly becoming more illuminated and the music growing as you make your way through the trainers and to Elesa. The vibes are simply electrical, it’s amazing to experience (even with it being a straight line)
100% agree, but this is a ranking of their puzzles, and I side with the decision to place it low.
unova fanboys try not to defend bad game design challenge (impossible)
@@lmaolol7702 You are welcome to hate elsewhere.
@@lmaolol7702 Imagine fans that like something
@@lmaolol7702 Bad game design would be something like Lt. Surge's gym, which is literally all RNG. You can't really solve Surge's gym, you just hope that the RNG is on your side - literally just an annoying trial and error that wastes your time if you keep getting unlucky. It tries to be a puzzle and it fails at it.
As for Elesa, the absence of a puzzle cannot qualify as bad game design, because the gym is not trying to be a puzzle. Elesa's gym being a catwalk fits very well with the fact she's a model, which is great gameplay-story integration; it's 10/10 theming and spectacle as mentioned above. I much rather have more gyms like that, but I do understand that's subjective, since some people prefer solving puzzles over pure spectacle.
Shoutout to Snowpoint’s Gym for softlocking people. Thanks Candice, very cool.
Thanks who?
Cool 🧊
@@KABIGON4445 Thank Deez-
I think Candice is my least favorite gym leader of all time
Brock has to have one of the hardest puzzles in the series. Walking forward? How am I supposed to know how to solve that
It could take you lightyears...
@@marvpott687light-years is a measure of distance, not time....
fun fact about kabu's gym: i found out a day after swsh launched during my playthrough that none of the encounters in there are shiny locked. it's how i got my first ever shiny litwick.
Personally i really like a lot of the "its a really simple maze but its a really cute setpiece" gyms you brushed past because they tend to look like somethibg that the gym leader put a lot of passion and creativity into designing, like walkinf through Eirika's garden/greenhouse is really cute!
I really dont like the ones that amount to battling in empty rooms or hallways with one exception, my favorite gym is actually the only one you completely missed. JANINE'S, yeah its the exact same invisible maze as her father's, but having all her trainers be disguised as her AND one in the traditional "gym leader spot" was REALLY clever and plays on player's expectations well into the post game and plays into her Ninja theme WAY better than Koga ever did. I just wish she got more recognition as the only sequel only gym locked to postgame.
Ragegamingvideos solving Larry's puzzle first try was astounding as he didn't know what he was supposed to choose he just knew it was a special food item and went with what he would have chosen. Also solving Larry's food puzzle seems to have killed some people because they show the would be arena full and then a loud noise, screen goes black and the people are gone.
Food so good you're willing to risk death
9:46 That's just literally not true, the gym has trainers in HGSS, and is IMO one of the most perplexing spin-tile puzzles in pokemon.
His opinions are..... Out there. Tate and Liza's Emerald gym worse than Sabrina's RBY gym? HEAVENS no
Fantina's gym in Platinum does do something unique tho. It's one of, if not the only gym where you looking at trainers will cause rhem to turn and challenge you. Plus the fact that youbhavr to actually physically find the correct path with your narrow cone of light feels more impactful than just waljing around blind
Fantina's gym being so easy is even worse when you consider failing it is the only way you can see a Drifloon outside of Friday. I'm not sure about platinum, but it makes diamond and pearl's dex requirement even worse.
Amen. Always miss it.
The worst one has to be Blaine's gym in GSC. He's not a gym leader, he's a homeless man living in a tiny one room cave.
The worst part of fantinas gym in d/p/pt is one of the optional trainers has a drifloon, the only way to see one to unlock the national dex, otherwise your player is forced to wait to see the Friday valley wind works one. Meaning it’s optimal here to go out of your way and get easy questions wrong for the extra battles
I'm kinda shocked you missed Drayden's B2W2 puzzle, it's basically a simpler form of what Norman's gym does (different trainers with special traits with their battles), but what really elevates it for me is the spectacle of riding the Dragon's head up and watching it clash with the opposite dragon
There's a few other gyms that you straight up skipped over talking about as well, when they really should've been talked about considering their differences from the original versions (such as Janine and HGSS Blaine)
At least Drayden's gym features Triple and/or Rotation Battles
I honestly despise all teleport tile gyms, definitely below the straight paths for me. And this is coming from a guy that thought the dollhouse was the coolest looking gym ever.
Sorry but this genuinely feels like you ordered all of them completely randomly
I put a lot of effort to make this puzzle in my head, so if your reading this then rate my puzzle as a ghost type gym leader.
The puzzle is called: illusion step.
There will be a mirror that has a 5/7-10 tiles colored purple. The reason why there is a mirror is because the floor is an illusion. There will be a trail of an oddly color of purple. If there is an odd square that is the odd purple color, that means that there will be a trainer there. If you walk on a normal purple colored tile, you will fall but with the same backround that you see before you fell. I put a lot of effort on this concept in my head, and i even named it, so give me some credit and rate it 1/10 - 10/10.
Psychic in SV is the worst imo
Medali gets bonus points for me for having a talking parrot as part of it.
Most disappointing is Montenevera since we never get to do that rap battle. They could have done it like a cross between the opera puzzle from Final Fantasy 6 and how karaoke works in the Yakuza series where you would have to remember lyrics and put them out to a rhythm (maybe going to language class could tie into this as well)
I don't remember which gym it was, but one of the quiz gyms (I think its Normad's Gym) has a trainer in the wrong path that has a version exclusive Pokemon, the only copy of that Pokemon in a specific version.
The problem with this was the National Dex was locked behind having all the pokemon in the Pokedex, as well as the Northwestern Island Post Game zone as a whole.
As such, if you are playing a specific version and MISS THAT TRAINER in a random room in a gym, without friends to trade you that exclusive pokemon, you are locked out of the Post Game content.
That gym, is my least favourite gym in the game.
Blues gym in HGSS does have trainers?… interesting list to say the least.
19:11 "There's no way to guess the answer."
Me, who guessed half of the answer on my first playthrough: * looks away while whistling *
Snowpoint Gym is my personal hell. I recognize it as a good puzzle but it makes me realize I don't actually want good puzzles in a Pokemon game if it's gonna be like this.
Tulip is possibly my least favorite ever. Not a fan of Drayden/Iris and Burch just due to the length of time it takes to leave if needed
I like to battle all the gym trainers so i often will do 99% of wallaces gym puzzle and then fall through the floor anyway just to stunt on him. In that subject i think we should deduct a shit load of points from fantina’s gym because if you get all the questions right you miss the only trainer in the game who has a drifloon which makes it so you can’t unlock the national dex without encountering it in the wild. There is an entirely real situation where you couldn’t play the post game for seven whole days just because you did a piss easy puzzle correctly.
In my opinion, the best Pokemon Gym puzzle came from the Roblox game Pokemon Brick Bronze, in the final gym. The player was transported inside a giant cube, and they had to navigate from side to side, but only if the two sides had a little platform which lined up. There were little kiosks scattered throughout which allowed the player to view the interior laid out flat, as well as move the sides around, but they could only exit the kiosk if the formation of the sides would allow it to fold neatly back up into a cube.
Wow, our opinions on gym puzzles are so different. You rate simple quiz puzzles way higher than I would and the reason for rating Erika's HGSS puzzle almost last makes no sense to me. Why does it matter whether the puzzle makes sense in-universe or not?
At worst it's still a maze, so it should never rank lower then the straight line gyms but it also looks very pretty, so it would be way higher for me.
You absolutely can randomly guess the order in Larry's gym as I've done it on both of Paldea playthroughs! (They were a year apart too, so I didn't just remember it the second time.)
14:50 While I can’t say anything for Bea, it makes sense for Allister because of Sinistea and Polteageist, two ghost types in Sword and Shield that possess a teacup and kettle respectively
I was expecting Blaine to be much lower for getting 2 of his own questions wrong in the originals!
I personally think Viola's gym is one of the worst because there's no way out until you beat Viola, so you can't go and heal between trainers. Conceptually I don't mind that too much, but this is the first gym of the game, so you're not likely to have much money for healing items yet. And to make it even worse, no one tells you that you can't get out. I went in and started fighting all the trainers, then to my horror realised I'd have to face the gym leader without healing. They effectively turned the first gym into bad knockoff of the Elite Four with no warning!
Also, embarrassing admission: in my first playthrough of gen 2, it took me ages to work out Chuck's puzzle of just 3 boulders
I like the sootopolis gym, but it also gets me a little bit concerned for the well-being of the all-female trainers trapped in Juan’s basement.
Gyms not covered
Drayden’s gym BW2
Skyla’s gym BW2
Blaine’s gym HGSS
Based on what he said about Norman’s Gym, Drayden’s would presumably also be quite high. I’d be curious to see where Skyla’s second gym ended up, though.
I remember Wallace's gym...that was the first/only puzzle that I legitimately failed and felt the failure was fair.
We actually agree on the best gym puzzle, even though I disagree on a lot of the other entries. For me personally, the worst puzzle is Stow-on-Side because it is stupidly over-the-top, feels very random and is not fun to do. Only way it could have been worse is in first person - that much spinning is terrifying.
Call me a nostalgia nerd but I really liked the puzzles from Sabrina's gym and Giovanni's gym from gen 1 and the clones of those two types of puzzles. Hoenn feels a little redundant with Flannery and Tate Liza using the same teleporting mechanic in Emerald version, but I like the aspect of memorising the pattern to be a fun little challenge that applies to both gyms. Agreed that Valerie's version in the doll house fits thematically the best.
I like for the Viridian gym that Blue keeps the same puzzle that Giovanni used years ago. Of course the pattern is different to make it a little more challenging. Lore wise it feels cool that Blue takes ownership of the gym and improves on what the former owner had. And I like how Tate and Liza use the arrow tiles in the base Ruby and Sapphire games. Makes it memorable for me and like the gym and the leaders even more given how they actually have major differences between versions, not just the double battle team.
My top favourite is definitely Wynona. The puzzle is unique. Takes a while to memorise the pattern. Wynona as a leader also has the first truly challenging team I faced. Uniqueness and difficulty wise, Wynona takes my vote for best. Definite second place is Tate and Liza with both puzzles because I just love both.
I've played all of these but somehow forgot there were SO MANY amazing gyms.
In my mind, most gyms were forgettable.
I like quite a few of those gym puzzles
But i absolutely hate that stupid giant olive in scarlet and violet
I hate Ice puzzles.
The olive puzzle was really fun. That’s one of my favourites
absolutely aggree on the #1 puzzle
omega rubin was the first game i played and a friend let me play on his 3ds and let me try to solve the puzzle
oras have stayed my fav games ever since and this is my fav gym puzzle
also i cant mention enough how good of a feature the eon flute was and how sad i am that we never got a similar mechanic were you could only find certain spots (mirage spots) via this method
ye in sv you can glide but thats not the same imo
A lot of the Gym puzzles aren't that interesting in Pokémon, you just have to put up with them to go to the Gym Leader
As a kid I hated the Fusha and Snowpoint gym because I did not know the way to get to them. For Fusha I never played the original so I did not know what path I needed to take and for Snowpoint as a kid I spend like 2 hours to get to the gym leader but also I thought I needed to destory all snowballs. But now they are fine gym puzzels
The worst one for me was Volkner’s gym in p/d/pl. It was so annoying
In my opinion the worst one is that spicy one in Scarlet and Violet's DLC.
How in the world did the teleport puzzles not rank last? Seriously they are all so bad. Id do Surges gym 10/10 times before a teleport puzzle
not me doing the bw1 gym puzzle for elesa in bw2 in addition to the runway 😭
When i played pearl for the first time and did fantinas gym i never had to fight any trainers as i got the questions right. The fact i had to deliberately answer wrong in diamond and bdap to fight some trainers is in my opinion bad game design. I would have had a trainer in each room regardless of if the answer was right or wrong but thats just my opinion.
I’m oliveffended.
Candice being in top 10 is actually insane. That puzzle is the most annoying one in the series imo. I'd rather test my luck with Surge's trashcans lol
Galar has the best challenges by far
I don’t like any gym puzzle. I’d rather just fight a bunch of trainers
Gym challenges are fun tho
Roxanne was just walk to her
Embarrassingly I got lost in the BW dragon gym multiple times. Also Epitome is pronounced Ep-It-Uh-Me btw
not true, the e is silent
My favourite gym is all of Pokémon Black/White.
Larry is the absolute worst of the puzzles. The directions are unclear & there's no other way to know what to do
I had to look up what to do lol
I found the instructions pretty clear tbh. You just have to find people to battle they will give you an answer and you have to follow it. After that go around town and there are some hints that the townspeople and the parrot drop.
@@Powder-Point
Nothing tells you to go find any trainers, just to ask regulars for their input.
@@mysticmongrel1289 No when you register yourself as a challenger in the Medali Gym the guy at the counter says and I quote
“Right now there are three other challengers around town attempting this Gym Test. Each challenger has been given a different clue that’ll help them discover the secret dish. You’ll be given a clue as well. Please find and battle the other challengers. The loser must tell the winner their clue! Your goal is to gather clues and use them to determine the secret dish, then order it from the waiter in the Treasure Eatery. Only the challenger who’s able to order correctly will pass the test
Your secret clue is to find out how the regulars season their dishes.”
Actually I should have read the last sentence when I first played because it makes sense why no one told you to ask the Office Worker NPC or Larry for the last hint because it was the first hint you received.
@@mysticmongrel1289
Yes the guy at the Medali Gym the guy at the counter says:
“Right now there are three other challengers attempting their Gym Test. Each challenger has been given a different clue that’ll help them discover the secret dish. You’ll be given a clue as well. Please find and battle the other challengers. The loser must tell the winner their clue! Your goal is to gather clues and use them to determine the secret dish, then order it form the waiter from the Treasure Eatery. Your clue is to find out how the regulars season their dishes. I’d suggest you start by hearing what a regular at the Treasure Eatery has to say!”
If I properly read out the last sentences then I should have known that there is a reason why no one tells you to ask the Office Worker NPC or Larry because it is the first clue that is given out to you.
Fairy doll house xy not really the puzzle because that's like Sabrina gym in gen 1 but the aesthetic is too good
Again same logic psychic cosmo space gym xy
Gen 3 flying type gym now it's really just the puzzle really fun to solve
Hoehn again but gen 6 remake version of the last gym thin ice water type
It's a really fun puzzle that I think can be solved with imagination and creativity because there are multiple solutions
Worst is obviously gen 1 3rd gym lt surge after you get cut the trash bins
Smh
hey pichu, you should know, the word 'epitome' is pronounced "eh-pit-oh-mee".
I hate the snowpoint city gym. When I play pokemon I turn my brain off, but trying to figure out the right path to pop the snowballs when you are sliding so quickly from one spot to another just gets annoying after you miss 3 or 4 or times. It is my absolute least favorite, below even original red and blue surge.
Brassius' gym puzzle was great, frame rate can't change the fact that the game and EVERYTHING it contains are top 3 in the franchise, only behind the Hoenn and Sinnoh games, and right above the Galar games
wtf
@@lmaolol7702 read it again if you don't understand
For all the boomer Pokémon fans always complaining oh nds era peaked Pokémon isn't as good as the old days
Gym puzzles seem to be getting better and better
Na
19:12 Unless you're Tom Fawkes, apparently
Literally at 6 years old I figured out you can just save scum Surge's gum puzzle lol. It doesn't reset when you save and reload, so just find the first one, save, and reload until you find the second one. I wouldn't rank it anywhere near the bottom lol, Clay's gym is THE worst in the games. It takes way too long and I literally couldn't care less about his dumb lifts lol