Most Played MMORPGs 2023

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    Nobody wants to play a dead game and that’s even more true when it comes to MMORPGs as half of the content in these games straight up don’t exist if there’s not players to group up with or compete against, So in this video we’re going to list the Most Played MMORPGs going into 2023, the MMOs that receive the most updates and are most likely going to maintain a solid population throughout the year.
    For this video I WILL NOT be using any of the data from the website MMOpopulations.com as this has to be one of the most misleading websites I’ve ever seen and the data makes no sense, look here for example, this donkey website says Ashes Of Creation has 30k daily players when the game literally isn’t playable, It says New World has between 250 and 450k daily players when we can see the data on Steam Charts that it’s nowhere near this number.
    Most MMOs don’t actually disclose player numbers so I’ll be using various other metrics to help me rank the games in this list, The most important thing though is that all the games mentioned in this video have a large enough population size for you to fully experience the game, join guilds and beat the content.
    What do you think about the current most popular most played MMORPG games going into 2023 Do the MMOs on this list deserve their popularity? let me know in the comments below!
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    Most Played MMORPGs 2023 MMO list
    Nobody Wants To Play A Dead MMO 0:00
    SWTOR 2:37
    EVE Online 3:50
    Runescape 3 4:46
    Guild Wars 2 5:50
    New World 7:11
    Elder Scrolls Online 8:34
    Old School Runescape 9:57
    Albion Online 11:15
    Black Desert Online 12:59
    Lost Ark 14:25
    Final Fantasy XIV 16:12
    World Of Warcraft 18:20
    Does any of this REALLY matter? 19:49
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  • @TheLazyPeon
    @TheLazyPeon  ปีที่แล้ว +66

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    • @PidgeonChair
      @PidgeonChair ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Why do you and every other youtube always cast BDO in a negative light whenever mentioning it? the game isn't perfect but it does deserve a bit more praise and less heavy handed passive aggressive reviews. I'm aware you don't really play the game but seriously, you and many other mmo review youtubers who actually mention BDO exists here and there review it in the same light even though a lot of things within the game have changed. You're just holding on to how the game was 6 years ago. Idk if you're getting your information from a ill-informed or just pessimistic player, or the last time you played the game was when it was at it's worst a few years ago. But yea.

    • @songoku6067
      @songoku6067 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@PidgeonChair i mean whats changed with bdo? Its still an endless grindy pvp game

    • @Topheraun
      @Topheraun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      when exactly can i get/open the chest?

    • @JjGodly
      @JjGodly ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What no path of exile

    • @SirMsuni
      @SirMsuni ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PidgeonChair
      The game is still extremely grindy, that hasnt changed. Yes the 'P2W' elements have gotten better and there have been a bunch of different QoL changes over the years. But at the end of the day, like i said, it's still a grindfest.

  • @neverminer_hd9109
    @neverminer_hd9109 ปีที่แล้ว +605

    lets be honest, we all just want a sword art online mmorpg
    Edit: ty for the 115 likes

    • @sebbegunzen2715
      @sebbegunzen2715 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      There is i think, not close as good as it looks in the anime ofc but it exists, publiced by bandai Namco which usually release decent games so SAO might be aswell i just haven't tried it yet :)

    • @bobotank86
      @bobotank86 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There isn't????

    • @Kazteris
      @Kazteris 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I want a .hack mmorpg personally

    • @waldosrevenge00
      @waldosrevenge00 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Sword Art Online: Integral Factor

    • @neverminer_hd9109
      @neverminer_hd9109 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Kazteris ok

  • @Dx_Ach
    @Dx_Ach ปีที่แล้ว +212

    Lost ark's playbase is 70-80% bots. Not even exaggerating. Today they banned over 200k bot accounts. As of this comment the player count is sitting at 84k with bots still wandering around.

    • @josh_ets
      @josh_ets ปีที่แล้ว +47

      They banned me. I knew i was bad but for them to call me a bot 🤖 like that is just cruel

    • @heydun
      @heydun ปีที่แล้ว +1

      how the hell does that even happen

    • @bruh-ItsTokyo
      @bruh-ItsTokyo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@josh_ets damn I feel like they would've did the same to me if I joined so you wouldn't have been alone

    • @josh_ets
      @josh_ets ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@bruh-ItsTokyo the game is actually fun but if you rush the grind from 1-50 you’ll miss important information on gameplay

    • @Max-dv1kq
      @Max-dv1kq ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its funny how this game was such a hype (i also played it/lancer blue build boy here) and has gone doooowhill so fast😂

  • @twintek1099
    @twintek1099 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    I would absolutely love to see a huge massive open world, mmorpg, lotr style game with giant community, factions and lore where the players make the story and events. Like an alternative fantasy reality.

    • @Yesobesto110
      @Yesobesto110 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      Basically you want WoW but with less toxic people?

    • @Peeker0
      @Peeker0 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      This and also satisfying combat that take a little skill and good graphics, probably too much to ask for tbh

    • @erwinkruger9988
      @erwinkruger9988 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      so, you want EVE Online but fantasy

    • @twintek1099
      @twintek1099 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      guys... i think ashes of creation is closest to this description

    • @nobodyspecial596
      @nobodyspecial596 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd like to see a naruto mmo

  • @HMNCPRODIGY
    @HMNCPRODIGY ปีที่แล้ว +259

    The fact that OSRS is still going strong after all these years brings my heart joy.

    • @ScarryHarry93
      @ScarryHarry93 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I mean it's like he said - it's easily one of the greatest MMO's of all time. It's just a true sandbox casual MMO that's good at giving dopamine points lol

    • @a-terrible-fate532
      @a-terrible-fate532 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      In my opinion its the greatest mmo I've ever played and still play.

    • @fuzziog3923
      @fuzziog3923 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I enjoy it.. i just dont enjoy wasting 20 years getting 99 in every skill

    • @LooseToots
      @LooseToots ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fuzziog3923 Why would you, those 99s dont do anything for your capabilities for pve or pvp

    • @fuzziog3923
      @fuzziog3923 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@LooseToots why wouldn’t you…? Not everyone cares about pvp… or pve. Some people like flexing 99 cooking for fishing… and every skill helps towards pve… lol

  • @GiesbertsN
    @GiesbertsN ปีที่แล้ว +1316

    Lost Ark is a great mmorpg with lots of content, but i dont think bots are the main reason a lot of players left after the honeymoon period at launch. For me personally, and for many others, the fact that u either have to play alts to funnel all your mats to your main, or pay money, to keep up with endgame content, was the reason many left.
    I dont want to play 3-4 different characters, to do the same content on each of these characters, to have a chance to upgrade my gear.

    • @tamaspodlovics5305
      @tamaspodlovics5305 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      And also, just like me , i think many other left as well beacuse amazon didn't gave us the same material generator stuff, at launch and for many months after that the korean version had,encouraging players to have more alts, or just rather to throw more money at them.

    • @skiesthelimit80
      @skiesthelimit80 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      For me, it was when you got to the “main center” town (forgot the name) and you experience the rng progression (ptw) system. Instant turn off. Game itself is fun. Having to grind weeks and then it goes turns into no progress was a major turn off for me. Been enjoying new world and while it has its problems, I can stop playing it for a month or so, come right back where I left off without feeling like I missed out. Plus no ptw!

    • @mufasafalldown8401
      @mufasafalldown8401 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      There was a lot of debate about the game being Pay2Win... in the end it was more Pay2Play than P2W.
      Either spend massive amounts of time (or some cash) to unlock the game's content.
      It was not a good experience.

    • @Hotshot2k4
      @Hotshot2k4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I enjoyed my time with the game, but as someone who likes to go out in the world and explore and not buy gear with real $ or play alts, I just felt too much FOMO from not trying to progress in raids. Also this is a weird complaint, but to me it felt *too much* like a game. The gearscore lockouts, a million different timers, the NPCs standing in place selling things which make no sense in currencies which have no use except to be spent at those NPCs, the seemingly nonsensical raid boss mechanics. It could have used a lot more story to justify all of its game systems.

    • @angelknives2843
      @angelknives2843 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why exactly do you have to run 20 thousand alts? For the gear based PVP islands or what? I haven't played in months.

  • @sXeSkinWalkeRsXe
    @sXeSkinWalkeRsXe ปีที่แล้ว +38

    What we get from this video is that most MMORPGs that are decent enough for us to try were released 10-15 years ago... That says a lot....

  • @zer0homer
    @zer0homer ปีที่แล้ว +51

    GW2 is the game to go spending free time in if you’re adult swamped in vertical progression in real life. Try hards find it boring because you can only grind so much dailies and power creep is mostly skill-dependent

    • @macblink
      @macblink ปีที่แล้ว +2

      given all the praise I tried a bit of GW2, it just didn't "catch" my interest

  • @Vaibryn
    @Vaibryn ปีที่แล้ว +80

    Honestly GW2 is a wonderful game to immerse yourself and get lost in. I've returned to the game recently and started playing with my gf (who hasn't really played MMOs that much in the past) and she's been loving every bit of the atmosphere, gameplay and things to do. The Community is really wholesome and everyone's just up to help. Just yesterday I had some guy try and help me beat a Boss for 30mins straight - even tho he gained nothing from it. Game's still active too, can definetly recommend.

    • @_Crimson._
      @_Crimson._ ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Gw2 playable on mobile

    • @Vaibryn
      @Vaibryn ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@_Crimson._ Direct answer: No. Indirect Answer: You could potentially use GeForce Now (Cloud Gaming) to play it from your phone or an old laptop or anything. :D

  • @Jollofslayer
    @Jollofslayer ปีที่แล้ว +192

    If you are new coming to Lost Ark, don't bother yourself. The game is in its worst state it could ever be. Toxic gatekeeping community, tons of bots and an apathetic devs to say the least.
    Edit: Bots issue seem to have stabilized a bit but bussing is the new anthem now. Basically you pay other players to carry you through contents. If you miss out on those contents, you FOMO. At the end, the game design needs revamp.

    • @lucatfer3497
      @lucatfer3497 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      why don't you try to make your own party i never got gatekeep even on ilevel

    • @henli-rw5dw
      @henli-rw5dw ปีที่แล้ว +8

      All true but still the best mmo I have ever played.

    • @lewsee5562
      @lewsee5562 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@lucatfer3497 "why don't you try to make your own party"
      And then get stuck in "LF sup" purgatory, causing everyone inside to get too impatient and disband.

    • @csguak
      @csguak ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Everyone knows Lost ark is for whales, even streamers are always begging for $$$ then failing rng to upgrade gear😂🤣😂
      If you like wasting $$$, Lost Ark is perfection.

    • @CharlieBrown-zr9wk
      @CharlieBrown-zr9wk ปีที่แล้ว

      Completely true

  • @SoundBubble
    @SoundBubble ปีที่แล้ว +189

    Nice to see Settled mentioned in the video. I haven't actively played OSRS before, but his videos are still some of the most entertaining on youtube for me, since he's great at explaining everything even to somebody who's never played it.

    • @NotTheWheel
      @NotTheWheel ปีที่แล้ว +5

      same actually never played OSRS but I watch his videos. Him and J1mmy

    • @RJTradess
      @RJTradess ปีที่แล้ว +6

      You should definitely try it then!!! I’ve been playing since 2005 when I was 7 years old and I still am discovering new things. The game might seem overwhelming at first because there’s so much to do but I promise, it’s not that bad once you understand what all of the skills do, and the community is super chill and helpful: most people like helping new players so if you’re having trouble just ask!!

    • @WhiteSector
      @WhiteSector ปีที่แล้ว

      skin wars 2? xD I was in love with game 2012(when cheaters and bots almost ruined game) till 2019...cant play anymore, due lack of normal iq players in pvp or pve...end game is nonsence, i had more trouble with some field bosses, than with main antagonist dragons in main story! Gear is funny, cause for few stats more, i dont want to waste my time. Legendary items can be brought via illegal sites, or auction for gold etc... I really loved game, but passive agressive behavior of community is too much.. in wvwvw you can see what im talking about.

    • @SoundBubble
      @SoundBubble ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WhiteSector who are you talking to?

    • @15redleg
      @15redleg ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you want some amazing Osrs content. All 3 seasons of Gilinor Games are incredible! Season 3 is still on going and it's been incredibly fun. It's alot of Osrs TH-camrs competing.

  • @someday7406
    @someday7406 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I think Runescape3's biggest upside is its end-game PvM if you get there. It has such a high skill ceiling with very interesting interactions and ways to outplay bosses to become a better player. The problem is that this takes hundreds of hours at least to reach and then hundreds more to fully gear out. And that is in a non ironman mode

    • @jacobmurdock89
      @jacobmurdock89 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are the games I love. An open world online game with an insane skill ceiling.

  • @connorwilson4357
    @connorwilson4357 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Some huge praise for Settled here. I totally agree about OSRS's youtube scene being by far the best. As long as graphics aren't too import to you it's my go to recommendation when people ask about MMOs to play.

    • @bwfextreme
      @bwfextreme 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      HDOS client looks way better than the HD Runelite plugin and supports jagex accounts now

  • @SynMods
    @SynMods ปีที่แล้ว +56

    One of the best decisions I've made recently was pulling a plug on Lost Ark.
    Underneath the facade of fun combat and decent raiding experience, is a ridicilously pay to win, bot filled, gatekeeping, alt character daily repetetive chore grind, with 30+ convoluted currencies, that will literally make you start hating MMORPGs if you allowed yourself to get invested.
    The game was an absolute misery, so if you're new and thinking of jumping in, consider this: No matter what game I've played and eventually quit, I always look back and appreciate fun times I had with it, whether collecting skins in GW2, castle sieges in BDO, guild wars in ESO or raiding in FF.
    For Lost Ark, with a clear mind, I regret every second I put into it from start to finish.

    • @lucatfer3497
      @lucatfer3497 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      what is your main ilevel ? lol

    • @henli-rw5dw
      @henli-rw5dw ปีที่แล้ว

      Still the best I've ever played. Not for the feint of heart.

  • @Giovanni6501
    @Giovanni6501 ปีที่แล้ว +704

    Can easily recommend GW2 for anyone new to the genre or looking for something different done right. Such a high quality game.

    • @david21289
      @david21289 ปีที่แล้ว +72

      Played wow and black desert for years, I concur, gw2 has this certain quality that makes you feels like the game is a virtual home, where you can relax and have fun, no grindy obligation and certainly not a loot-hamster wheel system.

    • @ihadnoideathatgoogleallowe6551
      @ihadnoideathatgoogleallowe6551 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      My #1 recommendation as well!

    • @dhera6559
      @dhera6559 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      it is the most underrated mmo in my opinion. Even tough it is popular, it deserves so much more popularity.

    • @rivesolider2092
      @rivesolider2092 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think WoW still on the top.

    • @saltybaguettes_
      @saltybaguettes_ ปีที่แล้ว +8

      as a new-ish player, the one thing i never really liked was the weird cutscene dialogues that are used for the vanilla game. it felt like the pacing was way too slow as the dialogue would briefly pause whenever another character had to fade onto screen before their corresponding audio would play. i never got around to finishing the personal story because of it, so i skipped it, watched a youtube summary about what happened and went into heart of thorns. i've just started end of dragons and gw2 has already earned a spot in my top 3 mmorpgs.

  • @Ookami20
    @Ookami20 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Man I love the MMO genre I swear but my only problem is wanting to play them all that I end up playing none of them cause I’m overloaded lol I feel like I don’t wanna waste my limited time on an MMO if I know I won’t stick around but I’m so glad to see so many of these long time games sticking around I love seeing the universe of each game just expand and succeed it’s heaven 🥰🥰🙏🏽😌

    • @theordinarylifeofacat5239
      @theordinarylifeofacat5239 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Literally my problem too!

    • @Ookami20
      @Ookami20 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theordinarylifeofacat5239 it’s an issue lol I never thought liking so many things would backfire 😭

    • @theordinarylifeofacat5239
      @theordinarylifeofacat5239 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Ookami20 definitely!

    • @Sakdos
      @Sakdos ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same feeling, and worse when my friend are splitted between Wow, FF and Dofus ( and parenthood)

    • @xen3588
      @xen3588 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      theres never enough time unfortanately especially when it comes to mmo’s

  • @sarthakpatel3080
    @sarthakpatel3080 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Definitely have to recommend GW2 for new players. Been playing it on and off for a couple of years, one tip is play all the way to lvl 80 without buying any expansions first. When I first started, I used to go on youtube so many times just because I couldn't figure out how to reach certain vistas or interest points. With the introduction of Mounts, I just use my Skyscale lol for map completion. Haven't even gotten around to playing the EoD expansion, I bought it just to support Anet, i'll probably play it over spring break lol.
    Lost Ark is fun until you get to T3, then it's just endless grinding and creating alts so you can feed mats to your main. It was so damn annoying that, eventually I just relaxed on Panda island and the eventually quit the game.
    FFXIV is a really good game and I definitely enjoyed playing it the trial. The trial has so much content, but I eventually quit because I didn't want to get attached to it lol. Plus I couldn't get behind the idea of buying the game and then paying a monthly subscription and then having to buy any new expansions too. But I'd definitely recommend it if you have some extra money and time.

  • @rob9368
    @rob9368 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Lost Ark got old fast. I hate feeling forced to play 7 alts just to keep up with spenders. I quit that so fast. I like 1 main and 2 alts to chill.

  • @Noobimummo
    @Noobimummo ปีที่แล้ว +52

    Totally agree, OSRS content creation is top notch and almost feels like undeserved to be blessed with such. A lot of people I know, including myself who stopped playing the game long time ago, because of having no time, still enjoys watching OSRS content almost everyday.

  • @gus051
    @gus051 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That last part is so true. I play NGS and even though it’s always had a tiny player base I’ve never had trouble finding people for boss runs or farming runs and there’s usually 2 or 3 sever maxed out so there’s always a bunch of people hanging around the lobby or in combat zones.

  • @ryanrodely7402
    @ryanrodely7402 ปีที่แล้ว +378

    GW2 is so slept on, some of the best open world MMO experiences I've ever had, along with the great mount system, non-p2w, and great combat system.(not to mention some of the best fashion I've ever seen in the genre) Overall an extremely helpful and friendly community willing to help, as a veteran of the game I highly recommend people trying out GW2 if they haven't already!

    • @sirmarshall9521
      @sirmarshall9521 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I've tried a few different times - it just doesn't do it for me.

    • @jamesgraham2961
      @jamesgraham2961 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@sirmarshall9521 Yeah it's unfortunate but it's the same for me. I love the look of it and really want to enjoy it, I just can't find myself having fun when leveling up in it

    • @pawelunikow1563
      @pawelunikow1563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      GW 2 its pay 2 win u "specializations" U get only when u pay

    • @jacobyax311
      @jacobyax311 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      @@pawelunikow1563 you have to own the DLC in order to use them. It's similar to having a class be released with a new expansion in FF14. It's not pay2win. You have no idea what pay2win is, especially with the fact that most content in GW2 is horizonal progression based...

    • @pawelunikow1563
      @pawelunikow1563 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@jacobyax311 so this game is demo and its pay 2play if you want to have stronger character than ppl that don't spend money on game

  • @Project-NSX
    @Project-NSX ปีที่แล้ว +48

    Bdo can be a pain but ngl the recent change of letting players have a private grind spot for an hour a day (even for Elvia spots) is such a stress reliever. Means we can grind casually without being a swaety 300ap player

    • @CaptnKrow
      @CaptnKrow ปีที่แล้ว

      what do you mean? how does it become a private grind spot?

    • @Project-NSX
      @Project-NSX ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CaptnKrow You get thrown into an instanced small area in the grind area and no one else shows up in it

    • @CaptnKrow
      @CaptnKrow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Project-NSX How? thats what I am asking

    • @CaptnKrow
      @CaptnKrow ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Project-NSX What do I push? What do I click? How can I find that functionality?

    • @jollmicelis8253
      @jollmicelis8253 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@CaptnKrow its a little green icon on the top (slightly to the right) of your screen.
      Next to the other small icons like Search Npc

  • @cptnhero6116
    @cptnhero6116 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    most of the games in the list, are basicly what i have expected.
    especially WoW, FF, Gw2 and ESO are like the glory 4 that always have a solid playerbase, no matter what.

    • @mepicaelanuel3645
      @mepicaelanuel3645 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Albion online also has a very stable playerbase

    • @pawelunikow1563
      @pawelunikow1563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mepicaelanuel3645 bro Albion now is pay 2 win and player Base for mmo is very bad

    • @mepicaelanuel3645
      @mepicaelanuel3645 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pawelunikow1563 bro pay to win?? Really? What are u talking about, u can get everything but some cosmetics with the game currency, thats not p2w

    • @pawelunikow1563
      @pawelunikow1563 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mepicaelanuel3645 ppl buy Gold to use 8.4 try to farm for premium not spending realy money when price go almost twice and go make money for pvp sets in the same time its almost immpossible now devs push ppl to spend more money in game so ppl who pay have more advetage on ppl that don't spend money. Clear?

    • @mepicaelanuel3645
      @mepicaelanuel3645 ปีที่แล้ว

      @El Chap0 not at all, that u r not good enough, or u dont know how it doesn't mean that u can't get premium by pvping, u can get the 17m it costs in a few hours or in a few weeks depending or ur skills and what do u do, don't call pay to win that, just learn to play the game, I have premium and haven't paid a single dollar in my entire life

  • @Dramatello
    @Dramatello ปีที่แล้ว +84

    It’s all about the personal experience.
    To me - ESO will forever have my best memories in the MMO genre.
    BDO was the most grindy though less social MMO I’ve played.
    New World is where it’s mostly at for me currently. I know many have love/hate relationship with it…. But I think the game is pretty darn amazing and I really am rooting for it.

    • @andrewborrs9443
      @andrewborrs9443 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Tried ESO but could not get past the login screen, Never was able to get the access code they require to authenticate my PC. So ended up getting a refund since I could not even login.

    • @imjusttrolling7944
      @imjusttrolling7944 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ESO is just that good

    • @mintspepper4176
      @mintspepper4176 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yea, so I liked New World. But found that I don't have the time to enjoy it. Is there a way to enjoy the game without the constant grind for crafting materials?? I found that all my time went to that instead of enjoying the quests, and when u try to push the quests without grinding first, you get under powered very quickly

    • @Dramatello
      @Dramatello ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mintspepper4176 honestly, so many and probably most MMOs are like that. Sounds to me you might be more into single player and more story driven games

    • @bobbythorton7693
      @bobbythorton7693 ปีที่แล้ว

      new world i do like and still play, but drifting off like a lot of people, needs new pvp content and balance.

  • @noodycup514
    @noodycup514 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thing to note about Final Fantasy 14 is that you have cross server, cross data center and cross-PC/PS play. When it comes to grouping for content it pulls from every server on that data center. You also have the ability to visit other servers within your data center and no cost in both real and in-game currency. You can purchase from other servers but you can only sell on your native server. People server hop to find better prices on goods. They even have cross-server chats called linkshells that you can make and stay connected with friends on other servers when you aren't visiting theirs.
    They also introduced data center travel but I can't comment on that as I haven't had a reason to try it. So you could have started on a NA data center and say go to a EU data center.
    The ability to connect with others in FF14 is not to be understated because you aren't just playing with people on your sever.

  • @retrohidalgo4024
    @retrohidalgo4024 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    What I like about gw2, is that if I ever want to return , my gear and fashion are still top tier....with other games I'd have to farm new gear all over again.

    • @MoseTM
      @MoseTM ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As a non-GW2 player, i really disliked the combat system where, if you equip an axe, here is 4 generic axe skills you'll have to settle with for... forever, Oh but weapon swapping! So i can have 4 generic bow skills aswell? No ty.
      That aside, i wanted to ask.. Whats the Reason to "come back" then?? Only to farm new transmogs and make more gold?

    • @retrohidalgo4024
      @retrohidalgo4024 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@MoseTM Well, if my character is equipped with an axe ,it makes sense that he attacks with it lol . Also the weapon skills are not generic , they change acording to the profession (for example a warrior equipoed with an axe has a different skill set than a ranger), and it also changes if it is equipped in the main hand or the second hand. The weapon swapping is a god like mechanic for the real time combat and target system, it makes the game super fluid. Regarding yout question, having fun I guess?? You know like killing mobs and bosses , 5v5 pvp , crazy 50vs50vs50 zergs in world vs world, map exploration (really fun with the mounts ) , story, etc....as long there is a guild/group of friends to play, because it's a mmorpg, it's supose to be social.

    • @MoseTM
      @MoseTM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@retrohidalgo4024 I just remember playing an archer planning on going druid?? I think? But the VERY basic and generic bow abilities i got to level with blew so hard i didnt even make it past level 40. I did main GW1 for Years way back, so GW2 was a step back for me.
      What's the point of killing mobs/bosses if they yield nothing? The rest i can get down with.

    • @retrohidalgo4024
      @retrohidalgo4024 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@MoseTM Ranger , warrior and guardian are meant to be easy to play, but hard to master. I think that's why you have the feeling of "generic skills". Now, if you are coming from gw1 it makes perfect sense gw2 didn't enchant you . They are very different games (and also nostalgic factor). As for the bosses, personally I don't play for rewards, I play for fun , for challenging myself being top dps, for the jokes in the middle of the fractal/dungeon/raid, for coordinaring the perfect combo with the teammates, etc....now said that, bosses and dungeons can drop cool rewards, such as pre legendary items, infusions, designs, titles, etc...

    • @MoseTM
      @MoseTM ปีที่แล้ว

      @@retrohidalgo4024 Arrite arrite - whatever floats your boat as it's all subjective, i was never ever really drawn to Transmog/Achievements/Titles/Mounts etc. Yeah i was so freaking hyped for GW2 since i was a huge 1 fan, nice to see the game is still alive and well even though i personally hated it.

  • @robix7192
    @robix7192 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I think the segment about GW2 could've been more interesting. ANet disclosed a few hints at where the player base is at right now and it would've been more interesting to theorize based on that.
    1. Currently the player base exceeded HoT launch numbers. Maybe with a bit of research we could've found out what the numbers were back then, do an estimate based on that
    2. After EoD launched they said that the player base more than doubled in over the past few years. Same thing as point 1., maybe we could vaguely find out where the game was in the past and theorize based on that.
    I'm not saying that the estimate is wrong or anything of sorts, just saying this angle would've been an interesting thing to discuss in the context of the video.

    • @qontroL
      @qontroL ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Anet thinks every account made to grab daily rewards is a new player. Nothing doubled lmao.

    • @jacobruiter592
      @jacobruiter592 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@qontroL why would that even be a thing? You can't transfer daily rewards between accounts last I remembered.
      I'm not sure you know what you're talking about.

    • @Thakrulll
      @Thakrulll ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@qontroL But those accounts are not the ones Grouch was talking about in the reddit/Twitch comments. It is active players/concurrent players they have mentioned not total accounts.
      Some comments from Grouch and the Studio Update mentioned:
      The games population has doubled in the last couple of years.
      "This year we’ve already seen more players venture into Tyria for the first time since 2015." (December 14, 2022)
      EoD outsold PoF. (You don't buy EoD if the only thing you are after is login rewards)
      And there were more players playing in the weeks leading up to the Steam launch than there were at the EoD launched.
      If those statements can't convince you that the games population is on an upwards trend then you can just check out the NCSOFT quarterly earnings reports. They are a publicly traded company after all. So you can get some sense about how the game is doing just by checking the numbers.

    • @Thakrulll
      @Thakrulll ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@jacobruiter592 It is definitely a thing. You can trade laurels for T1-6 Mats and send those over. And the mystic Coins can be sent over as well. But I can't imagine there are enough people that spend the time and money to manage multiple accounts to make a difference on the statistics over total accounts. At least not now when the mystic coin prices have plummeted over 65% from 2,3 Gold down to 80 silver over the course of 1 year.
      And I am not sure how Anet defines active accounts but I can't imagine that just logging in to character select and then closing the game again counts as an active player.

  • @minhnguyen475
    @minhnguyen475 ปีที่แล้ว +137

    Lost ark was one of my favorite gaming experiences when they just released. Great story and end game content. I remembered when everyone was struggling against the 4th guardian (forgot the name) and the feeling of beating it was just amazing.
    However, as pacing starts to slow down and dungeons became chores, its no longer a “fun” game for leisure time but became an item on my to-do list. I just uninstalled it after that realization.

    • @SuperLameRanger
      @SuperLameRanger ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Thats what I feel too from playing Tree of Savior, Blade and Soul and Dragon Nest back then... I really enjoy both games so much until one point it starts to get bored... I feel like it become a work-to-do daily than a game that mean to be enjoyed. Everyday after school/work, then i have to do all the dailies and weeklies to catch up. Come back from real life work at night and gonna work in virtual work... Me too quit the game instantly after that realization...same with you lol.

    • @SarahIlayda
      @SarahIlayda ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I agree, it's like you can't casually play it and if you want your character to get better you gotta play 5-6 h daily.

    • @forsaturn4629
      @forsaturn4629 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      lost ark is not even a game anymore its a full time job lol

    • @meatshackles
      @meatshackles ปีที่แล้ว +5

      isn't that pretty much all mmos? Other than the PVP focused ones don't they all start to drag once you finish the content?

    • @sh.renaud
      @sh.renaud 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@meatshackles That's why Mmorpg's is a genre that's has done his timeperiod and people are moving away from it ?

  • @rremnar
    @rremnar ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Final Fantasy 14 was my favorite MMORPG for a long time, with a total of over 2 years on my account. But I recently just got burned out; and I don't miss it much anymore. It is a high quality game, though the combat is lacking. It has a very in depth story with many branches, some of which are voice acted, but be ready for lots of reading doing the quests. There are a lot of fun themes, especially for the raids. If you like high fantasy and scifi, with cutscenes and a in depth story, then I recogmend this game. The over all player base is friendly and helpful; more so than other games. The music is excellent and very positive.

    • @charlesninogana-an8999
      @charlesninogana-an8999 ปีที่แล้ว

      where you install ff14?

    • @guardiananger1641
      @guardiananger1641 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Same here, same here. 4 years in game. The best MMORPG I ever played.

    • @JohnSmithlol2584
      @JohnSmithlol2584 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@guardiananger1641 out of curiosity what do you do after finishing the content/expansions. I remember playing it but after finishing I had nothing to do and sat in the main city doing nothing

    • @guardiananger1641
      @guardiananger1641 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@JohnSmithlol2584 My daily routine was mostly focused on savage/uttimate raids, Ishgard & Firmament restoration and general crafting, making kinah (related to crafting mostly), helping around FC with raids, crafting and housing, helping friends with whatever they needed, completing achievements and PvP,. After Endwalker there was again a lot to do - new tiers in crafting, new raiding activities, new gear to get. So I can't say I had really nothing to do. Comparing to, let's say, Guild Wars 2 endgame, there is much more to do in FFXIV.

    • @georgewashington7982
      @georgewashington7982 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@guardiananger1641 as a former savage/ultimate raider, can’t deny the fact that the ffxiv raiding is more so just memorizing the moves with 7 other idiots hoping they don’t wipe the raid. It’s fun but it gets old fast. I do not recommend this to people who want to raid, but it’s a good social game

  • @LlNKENDARK
    @LlNKENDARK ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Osrs is one of those games to me where I honestly do not enjoy playing it that much as it can be extremely grindy and straight up boring BUT the content creation is my favorite thing on youtube, it is just too good and makes me want to play the game even when I am aware I do not like it long term

    • @umit3937
      @umit3937 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fr Settled’s UIM Tileman made me create an UIM but shortly after I realized I don’t have as much time as him to play the game and am thinking of switching to regular IM

    • @TheLazyPeon
      @TheLazyPeon  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Yeah I have to admit I do enjoy watching OSRS content more than playing it lmao

    • @Guilez18
      @Guilez18 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheLazyPeon you should watch the recent escape room thats been popping in the osrs community, those are GREAT

  • @MatrixPlays
    @MatrixPlays ปีที่แล้ว +257

    Hey Peon do you think you'll make more videos about your life in thailand down the road? Really enjoyed that style of video :)

    • @Stargame9922
      @Stargame9922 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Was about to ask the same. Was a very nice series tbh.

    • @TheLazyPeon
      @TheLazyPeon  ปีที่แล้ว +103

      Yes, I think I've got the footage to make another one now, will make one soon

    • @gabecranmer6086
      @gabecranmer6086 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheLazyPeon a while ago you asked your viewers to keep you to your word about a fitness journey, saying you'd have a six pack. So how's it going? Did you achieve your goal?

    • @creamyfeet6242
      @creamyfeet6242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those videos r lit

    • @myzaelneffeofficial
      @myzaelneffeofficial ปีที่แล้ว

      ur i like to see that as well

  • @FitMagic
    @FitMagic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome list! Great games. You are honest about the data and where is comes from (or doesn't come from). all together, excellent commentary with great visuals!

  • @jamesbalaj4641
    @jamesbalaj4641 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man it's been a while since I have seen your videos, I remember when wow wanted you to change your character name citing it was offensive when it was literally a term used in their game by them, glad to still see your making content!

  • @wuu2
    @wuu2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    feel like osrs has such good content creators on youtube giving unique spins on the game such as settled and soup

    • @wuu2
      @wuu2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      wrote this before you even mentioned it lmao

  • @imialbanesi1131
    @imialbanesi1131 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Hey Peon! You missed a very old and popular MMO-RPG called Tibia. Would be absolutely amazing if you did a video of that game!

  • @TylerKoester
    @TylerKoester ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I’m actually pretty suprised wizard101 isn’t on this list as it’s one of the only MMO’s aimed at kids (or adults who love the nostalgia). They also have been releasing tons of new content since Kingsisle was acquired. However, it is packed with microtransactions and a membership paywall

    • @tonk3878
      @tonk3878 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The name “Marleybone” has been stuck in my head for like 10 years.

  • @Beezlbae
    @Beezlbae ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I can tell you that the amount of times I have gone back to SWTOR there is always players and queues never feel empty even for a game this old. The fan base is so loyal to the game. Would love to see another more populated star wars mmo come through. The main thing that keeps you going in SWTOR or at least me is the dialogue the fact that I can hear my character contribute to the story. And the story itself is amazing. Also the choice between being evil and good is perfect too. Wish more games would go back to implementing the change of appearence with the choices you make. The fact that you become this guy who is super pale with yellow eyes and then red eyes and dark veins is just perfect.

    • @joeking2961
      @joeking2961 ปีที่แล้ว

      i recently decided to give SWTOR a try as a free player my only complaints so far is if you want to use certain emotes like /sleep ya need to pay and if you want to send an email to other players (not that i have any friends YET) need to pay for that too instant turn offs (for me anyways)

    • @_Travey
      @_Travey ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s meh, the gameplay is okay, animations are a bit clunky ,mount animations look horrible, 3 of the class stories are good and the others are bad. The community is so defensive whenever you criticize the game at all just like final fantasy players.
      First dungeon I got in, I was kicked for not skipping the cutscene without them saying a word… and the devs just hate the game haha they just love the all the money that stupid cartel market makes 😂

    • @ajshdhenskaka
      @ajshdhenskaka ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The game is a wasteland, barely anyone plays it and the only steady updates that get released are for the cash shop. The "big" 10th anniversary was an absolute joke and all the content that's been released since Jan 2022 was supposed to be included in the 7.0 release so we aren't even getting new content, not to mention the removal of ranked PVP because the crybaby population was whining about "toxic" players.

    • @songoku6067
      @songoku6067 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ajshdhenskaka thats just not true dude lol i was a new swtor player a while back and found players constantly to do dungeons with

    • @ajshdhenskaka
      @ajshdhenskaka ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@songoku6067 Funny how the only thing you can try to defend is how many players the game has. Only the highest tier of dungeons have role requirements so of course you're finding people to run them with, you failed to mention your group could be made up of anything: 2 tank/2 dps, 3 healers/1 dps, 4 healers, 1 tank/3 healers. It's a mess and because of this bosses are stripped of any challenge so these down syndrome groups can complete them. If you want a proper dungeon group you're stuck waiting an hour or more.

  • @mangoman93
    @mangoman93 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The server status in gw2 does not translate well to overall player population because "servers" are only relevant for WvW matchups (large scale PvP) and thus only take into consideration active WvW players. For everything else gw2 uses megaservers that allow everyone to play with everyone else within their region (EU or NA). Even WvW will be restructured to not use "servers" anymore but make matchups based on guilds and alliances.
    Fun fact: GW2's server infrastructure is setup so it never has any downtime, even with major patch or expansion releases. When the update drops you have 2 hours to finish whatever you are doing and once you restart you patch the game and jump right back in.

    • @backstabber3537
      @backstabber3537 ปีที่แล้ว

      classic gw2 player

    • @FalconStrikeGames
      @FalconStrikeGames ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@backstabber3537 lol y r u so salty

    • @backstabber3537
      @backstabber3537 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@FalconStrikeGames how is that salty mr falcon

    • @FalconStrikeGames
      @FalconStrikeGames ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@backstabber3537 you're solely targeting gw2 comments. Where did anet touch you lol

    • @backstabber3537
      @backstabber3537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@FalconStrikeGames I’ve been playing gw2 for many years now although I think the game is decent but I see many misleading comments tryna pull new players lol come on now

  • @fireflyry
    @fireflyry ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool video. Loved GW1 but burnt out on GW2, and the genre in general after it's heyday tbf, but fond memories indeed and great to see it getting some love, even if the MMORPG genre just ain't my thing anymore.

  • @Hostobi
    @Hostobi ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I think GW2 has more players, ive only recently started playing it and the amount of players in first areas of the game is a lot for just a 30k pop game

    • @jgsource552
      @jgsource552 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can thank their mega servers for that, gw2 really does servers best to make it seem like the most populated mmo.. Every area is filled with people, and you can kinda thank the design of the game for that as well(With the game having a more focus on horizontals and every area of the game being relevant for even the higher end players)

  • @ashash8026
    @ashash8026 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    50% of Bots for Lost Ark? It is minimum 75% of bots for Lost Ark on Steam. The Lost Ark Graph has to be the most sketchiest Graph Steam atm.

  • @FalioV
    @FalioV ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well structured video, congrats! As you ask at the end, none of this really matters. If a person is in to the game really dont care about the numbers. I started playing WoW around 2006/2007 and since then for me this is the best MMORPG game ever to exist.But now, so many years are past and my daily routine is full of more important goals, so I dont have the spare time to go continue playing sucha "hourly demand game". SWTOR was a game that actually was really good. But since im a social guy, my friends didnt had the "hype" as I did soo I quit it early on. I'm a huge fan of space, but EVE for some reason I felt way too much complicated for a game. Lost ark has insane battle system and defenetly looks really damn cool, but has probably the worst leveling experiance out there. I played it on the russians servers years a go and i expected it with so passion to come in Europe. Since it came 2 months were enough to actually quit the game.

  • @ADHD_God5489
    @ADHD_God5489 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Swtor is probably the most interesting mmo I’ve played. The fact that there is rp like fallout or Witcher and different kind of stories for each classes made me engage in the game a lot more than other mmos.

    • @slipknotpurity00
      @slipknotpurity00 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      it's absolutely worth playing through, even if you treat it like a solo story RPG

    • @bobbythorton7693
      @bobbythorton7693 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      i wish swtor was made recently, such a good game. But it is aging

  • @cryptosun9981
    @cryptosun9981 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice to see this kind of video. I am waiting for your reviews about metarollers andtheirs main features.

  • @killerkram1337
    @killerkram1337 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Guild Wars 2 in my opinion is the best mmo on the list. Truly an S tier game. Glad EVE is still pushing along as well, I played that for 8 years and loved it but have since moved on. Star Citizen's latest numbers are also surprising. 240k monthly active users on average with a peak of 400k last may and 1 million unique logins. The game is much bigger than I thought. Plus its in a state where it has more features than a bunch of new games that are coming out these days which is actually quite sad and shows that some studios should definitely wait on releasing their games.

    • @ensar3752
      @ensar3752 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      100% agree about GW2. All things considered, number 1 mmorpg out there.

    • @hampustornros
      @hampustornros ปีที่แล้ว +4

      the one thing I just can't get into with GW2 is the lack of vertical progression. My favorite period of any MMO is the launch where everyone is progressing on an even playing field. The progression part is the most fun part of an MMO for me.

    • @Nuh
      @Nuh ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@hampustornros Lacking vertical progression is a feature

    • @hampustornros
      @hampustornros ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Nuh Yeah yeah I get that. It's up to personal preference. Some people like it a lot and it sure as hell makes the game a lot more casual friendly and makes it so you can play when you want with no pressure. I just personally don't like that feature as it removes one of my favorite aspects of an MMORPG.

    • @ROCKNROLL947
      @ROCKNROLL947 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      GW2 is by extremely far the best MMO. There's no MMO even close

  • @metherandom1
    @metherandom1 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    People are always sleeping on Lord of the Rings online. Sure it might not have the sheer numbers that other MMOs have, but it is one of the best chill MMOs with a very grounded story that most people know

    • @Skyshadow1
      @Skyshadow1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I havent played LOTR online (want to give it a chance though) but from what i have seen about it, it will be a guaranteed better experience than Lost Ark.

    • @curlyhairedgamer
      @curlyhairedgamer ปีที่แล้ว

      What class do u recommend for beginners?

    • @metherandom1
      @metherandom1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@curlyhairedgamer in LOTRO? either a champion or Hunter, they are dps roles and very good at lvling, my personal favorite is guardian which is a tanking class. A class a lot of people enjoy is Warden but you have to invest a bit of time in the game before unlocking it

    • @metherandom1
      @metherandom1 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Skyshadow1 it's a good game, but keep in mind that it's an old MMO with tab targeting. it's more fun if you get invested in the story lines and the community. i play on a RP server and it's very much alive

    • @curlyhairedgamer
      @curlyhairedgamer ปีที่แล้ว

      @@metherandom1 I actually tried LOTRO about a year ago and bought the warden class! Do u think its a difficult class for an experienced mmo player?

  • @Ranter_X
    @Ranter_X ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video and wowed (no pun) by your number crunching. Wondering what you estimate DDO at since it always seems busy when I go back...

  • @ericrios3773
    @ericrios3773 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    OSRS is the game with the absolute best content being created on TH-cam out of all MMOs and it's creators. The sheer amount of grind, perserverance, ways to make their lives even more miserable than the last challenge they created for themselves and somehow pushing through legit makes me want to play the game even though i know neither do i have the time nor the willpower to play the game without any restriction.
    Shoutout to Settled, J1mmy and Limpwurt for making top tier content

    • @dantelabella9753
      @dantelabella9753 ปีที่แล้ว

      ZIGGGGGGGYYYYYYYYY

    • @connorwilson4357
      @connorwilson4357 ปีที่แล้ว

      Soups, Gielnor Games series is tv show production quality and entertainment levels as well.

  • @morsmagne
    @morsmagne ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That was a very fair and interesting assessment. I'm glad Eve Echoes didn't get a mention because in my experience that could be a different kettle of fish compared to Eve Online, but I haven't played EO for many years.

  • @hansvanbrakel8487
    @hansvanbrakel8487 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People always underestimate what concurent players means in comparison to daily active players. Steamdb shows the concurrent players which means the daily active user count is much much higher, cause people are constantly login in and out.

  • @joonpak
    @joonpak ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I remember having the time of my life when I played City of Heroes and later, WoW. I’ve always wished to find another mmo to fall in love with 😢

  • @keselekbakiak
    @keselekbakiak ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont mind playing a bit of alt trying different class on lost ark. The biggest problem is the struggle of doing legion, unless you have a dedicated group. Spending 2-3 hours on a single content with random pug is a devastating blow for many players.

  • @Amel-vp9he
    @Amel-vp9he ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Glad GW2 is still doing good.
    It is my go to MMO at the moment. The community is really helpful and positive and the fact that my gear always stays relevant and I can focus on the content without chasing the next item level is really refreshing.

    • @br3ak_
      @br3ak_ ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Yeah GW2 is really fun for a while, but then you realize that the community's gigantic irrational fear of any sort of competitiveness and PvP, to the point where they make it a totally different game mode and are absolutely terrified of even having consensual duels, gets boring real quick. You can't interact with other players, it's like playing a Co op single player game. Good game to play REALLY casually with your girlfriend/wife, but I could never in my life see myself investing time in GW2 by myself playing competitively. The game is specifically catered to carebears. Playing GW2 is like marrying the boring nice guy that only has sex in missionary position, you think you want it but you don't.

    • @lobsterrobster4620
      @lobsterrobster4620 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@br3ak_ the PvP community is soo bad. Wintrading, Rmt , and match manipulation are normalized

    • @ROCKNROLL947
      @ROCKNROLL947 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@br3ak_ Despite that is the best MMO by far. The rest of the games on the list are an ocean of mediocrity

    • @kaioken8682
      @kaioken8682 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@br3ak_ what mmo are worth it then ?

  • @kermitdfrog1511
    @kermitdfrog1511 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Glad to see swtor made it on the list. It is a vibrant game, always people around no matter what planet you're on. But there's only 5 huge servers, but who cares. You can only interact with your server anyway

  • @raymundverallo1967
    @raymundverallo1967 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome vid, 100% agree on your Lost Ark take 👏🏻

  • @woof3065
    @woof3065 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice man, I C Lost Ark is now available in the Netherlands too (I'm pretty sure this game was blocked here before, due to them not being open about the drop chances in paid lootboxes).. So yea after 10 years of rs and 9 years gw2 (and a whole bunch of co-op games), i like to give this one a try; thanx~

  • @hihihi1q23
    @hihihi1q23 ปีที่แล้ว +71

    The fact that WoW is nearly 20 years old and still the most popular mmo is wild.

    • @mmorkinism
      @mmorkinism ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Most grew up with it and it's more comfortable to keep playing than to look for something new and learn everything again.

    • @xRichhhx
      @xRichhhx ปีที่แล้ว +14

      None have matched the fluidity and responsiveness of WoW. The only MMO that comes close is GW2 but it's also action combat, so it's not an apples to apples comparison.
      I think only Riot will have a shot at this with their budget and fanbase, or it's an utter failure, who knows lol.

    • @JoeGameVideos
      @JoeGameVideos ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and yet everquest were it all started is still alive with over 25+ expansions and still being updated without everquest world of warcraft wasnt there

    • @vagkalosynakis
      @vagkalosynakis ปีที่แล้ว +13

      I would mostly say it's "Sad" instead of "wild". This only indicates that no one cares for the genre anymore from the developers' side of things.

    • @gendryll
      @gendryll ปีที่แล้ว +6

      heres the thing, you have gamers who play WoW, and you have WoW players; people who play WoW and dont know anything about anything outside WoW. look at Scripe, Hardcore WoW raider, hops on ffxiv, and for a long while thought the game came out 1 year ago, completely oblivious to WoW's biggest contender.

  • @seekittycat
    @seekittycat ปีที่แล้ว +29

    GW2 and FF14 are my cozy homes 👍

    • @tgil22
      @tgil22 ปีที่แล้ว

      How’s the controller support for gw2 ?

    • @user-nh1no9bm1w
      @user-nh1no9bm1w 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      for me cozy home was archeage. I downloaded it to nostalgia, but felt only sadness because of emptiness of servers

  • @abzoluterennix477
    @abzoluterennix477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I just want to find a game in which the grind isnt hard or takes too long, the story is immersive and interesting, character creation, classes and how they impact the game, where you're actions have consequences, and good grapics. Yeah there are many but every so often i come on youtube hoping to find a new game in which i can indulge myself after hours of working and coming home. Maybe im being too picky but mmorpgs arent the same anymore when you get older

  • @Anthrothia
    @Anthrothia ปีที่แล้ว

    Informative list ty for putting it up, maybe one day my game world will be on one of your videos :)

  • @Djidgy
    @Djidgy ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I bought new world for 20 dollars last month and I’ve been really digging it.

    • @salz446
      @salz446 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      same, I really like it

    • @Belzao
      @Belzao ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is good. 2k hours in this game and still counting. However I should say there arent many content to do in end game, but there are some hopes as devs working on new content and at some point listening to the comunity.

    • @plue72
      @plue72 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dylan538 too bad, the devs team are dog shiet....

  • @ImAlsoBen
    @ImAlsoBen ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ive played OSRS since 2013 and still not even close to being done. If you can look past the graphics, the game is amazing.

  • @jst1man
    @jst1man ปีที่แล้ว

    I was a Beta tester for Guild wars 1 and after playing GW2 i can see why they are still successful! GW1 was fun and even though it was straight forward very few could master it...
    In comes GW2 an Uber upgrade and gameplay experience. It came out after WOW but the biggest benefit is no monthly fees... From GW 1 to GW 2 pay for the game and play, no monthly fees.

  • @a_bearded_boy9419
    @a_bearded_boy9419 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful video! i am in the desperate search for a good mmorpg that will satisfy my palate for adventure, crafting and roleplay (i really like to be very good at a role and be known for it) i hope someday to find such a mmorpg... or i hope one will come out! Anyway I repeat, great video! I hope you will continue to make such videos in the future!

  • @unknownlongforgottenpaths
    @unknownlongforgottenpaths ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks hugely for all the videos Peon, you're a solid CC.
    I heavily recommend Neverwinter currently, but I'm one of those who can't get into tab targeting. Almost chose to go back to Lost Ark though.

    • @rjswas
      @rjswas ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I played Neverwinter for a few years daily, it is a good game, but sadly the game development has gone down hill as they are more about the new players now and kick the old loyal players in the teeth, this is why i got tired of it and hardly play it anymore, and why a lot of the big original players also quit it, but it still has a spot in my heart.

  • @penniesnnickels
    @penniesnnickels ปีที่แล้ว +3

    swtor is so dissapointing, they release "expanions" but they are actually just small DLC's with 2 hours worth of story content. I always wanted try to Albion, it looks super fun. Love your videos! always helpful and entertaining to watch!

  • @relaximillion
    @relaximillion ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Albion will become more significant and well-liked if a quest-style structure is adopted.

  • @fenixcisne
    @fenixcisne ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I played Path of Exile and Lost ark, but then I started in BDO and OMG, the game came to me for free in one event 2 years ago, the creation system on chars has no equal in any MMORPG, the game scenarios look very realistic and absolutely beautiful, you have free 3D camera (not fixed isometric), you have thousands of different spots with different mechanics to kill the monsters (not like the 7 types of mobs other games have), then I tried WOW and ESO, but after playing BDO the movements on chars it feels like I am playing with a robot or playmovil, lol. Also, BDO has constant events and all the expansions, new areas, dungeons, etc all that is given for free (no need to pay subscriptions or new DLC's). Give it a try!!
    Pd. I have a decent progress in BDO and I haven't invested a single coin of real money. Good video. Greetings!!

    • @MonsteRNieR
      @MonsteRNieR ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Wow a ftp player 0: 😮idk how much I’ve spent in bdo ever since I returned to the game lol 🥹

    • @djghod4391
      @djghod4391 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that you don't need to put any money, but i disagree about recommending BDO since its korean game. All koreans go for p2w. Yes you can progress in BDO but if you're a pay 2 winner, you will progress way faster compared to a f2p. You will have to grind for years to atleast get a decent gear, unless you're that most luckiest person on the planet to just smash your gear and hope for the best. Your gear will break almost all the time cus of that low chance to upgrade. It's really not worth playing the game if you DO NOT want to spend any money in, cause this game will need you to buy stuff with real money. Nobody can disagree with that, if it isn't for gear. It will be for your character, and i'm talking about progressing as in, inventory slots, pets, fairies, maids, tent is rly useful and will be needed late game and most importantly value pack, which is monthly. Has a limit 30 days to 120 i think. Value pack gives alot of bonuses which every person would really need to have. So yes, you do need to spend money in bdo to atleast have fun otherwise. You'll get killed by p2wers pretty much all the time :)
      Edit:
      Also pets is one of the most important there is since they pick up the loot automatically so u dont have to get there and collect all the time manually. The higher lvl the pet is, the faster they pick up. So to get higher level pet, you need same RARITY on the pet to be able to FUSE them together. Oh and also, you need luck there too if you want to get higher lvl! The more pets you FUSE, the higher the luck. which means, you need to buy EVEN MORE PETS. And also, each pet has its own "ability bonus". Which for example polar bear are most commonly bought but they're limited, cus they give + weight. So yeah, have fun with that too!

    • @fenixcisne
      @fenixcisne ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MonsteRNieR Yeah, I have played BDO for almost 2 years, developers have been giving many amazing gifts for free on events, and the other stuff we can get them with loyalties.

    • @fenixcisne
      @fenixcisne ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@djghod4391 Wow man, look like you have some time away from the game, pets have come to me for free, some from the quests directly in the game, adventure books, etc, and devs also have been giving many of them for free in events, no need to buy a single one and I already have a T-5 and ther rest are T-4. Same with maids.
      There were only 2 things that I used to dislike on the game, one was as you said that PTW or veteran players might kill you in some spots, but luckily devs gave us seasons were no PKs are allowed, and after that they gave us Marni rooms (1hr of private servers) to do our grinding without being disturbed, so problems solved.
      And the other problem was the RNG enhancing system, I almost quit because of that, but then devs gave us 100% PEN guaranteed methods to get our gear, and problem solved too.
      Secrets to get progress without spending real money might be: go only for 100% guaranteed progress methods or buy what you need directly from the market, take advantage of all events and seasons for pretty cool rewards, and use loyalties shop (for 1 day value pack, buffs, lodging, inventory, weight, etc), you need to be smart, getting the optimal way to maximize profit it is also pretty fun in the game.
      That is why I highly recommend BDO to everybody. :). Greetings bro.

    • @ben529
      @ben529 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. I think Peon has a biased opinion on BDO since he played in the early days. It's not necessary to spend money in the game. If you're gonna spend, you'll probably do that in any other game.

  • @brucepalmer8846
    @brucepalmer8846 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Can't thank you enough. I always enjoy your videos. And will give lost ark a try. Cheers mate. And thank you again for your continued content.

  • @staxxius
    @staxxius ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I want to get into BDO but I always feel so overwhelmed by all the different items you get, and I have no idea what the heck all that crap is even for. What to save, what not to save, etc.

    • @christien6230
      @christien6230 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      BDO is a deep game and overwhelming but take your time watch some youtube videos the games super fun but GRINDY

    • @stephenschroeder6567
      @stephenschroeder6567 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Just about all your questions can be answered by one of the best TH-cam content providers for the game - Evil Do Us Harm. He has LOTS (over 50?) of videos that are professionally presented and very informative. He cares about the game and has provided me tons of worthwhile information and how tos.

  • @bigedsgaming8024
    @bigedsgaming8024 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the videos man. Think I have played just about every one of these lol.

  • @timurrte5694
    @timurrte5694 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When i started playing OSRS 2 month ago, i was confused by camera movements and controls, but now i think that it's easily the greatest MMORPG game ever created

    • @Murderedmak
      @Murderedmak 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait til your accounts hacked, osrs is a great time

    • @timurrte5694
      @timurrte5694 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Murderedmak i use Jagex account and enabled 2FA. Only reason why account got hacked because game used stupid in-game authentication

  • @justmoody5797
    @justmoody5797 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Yesterday Lost ark banned 200k + Bots btw so the numbers now are on the average of 80k

  • @gsp1995
    @gsp1995 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wish a game like old Ragnarok Online would come out nowadays. That was one of the most fun experiences I've ever had in the genre.

    • @giancarl9273
      @giancarl9273 ปีที่แล้ว

      if you want to play in a private server or smtng try NovaRO

    • @rubengardinerart
      @rubengardinerart ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same! There was an actual community feeling to it, I dont get that at all with all the new mmorpgs

    • @eldaxx13
      @eldaxx13 ปีที่แล้ว

      Albion Online

  • @demonsangells
    @demonsangells ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I was expecting to see Albion on this list. I don't play it but I did try it for a couple of hours and no matter where I was the place was brimming with hundreds of players. Its cross-platform nature is probably the reason why.

  • @Brainreaver79
    @Brainreaver79 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    swtor after the base game grows more and more into a singleplayer game with hub based multiplayer feature... i think thats important to differentiate for players that look for an mmorpg

  • @FreeDoM_nl
    @FreeDoM_nl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    love the Guildwars 2 mention. Great game!

  • @WildlandsGG
    @WildlandsGG ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You mention in Black Desert that you need a big bank balance to enjoy it; this is not true and honestly never really was true. Whaling in BD (they dropped the Online part from the name) was never really great, but since Kakao was dropped by Pearl Abyss, it's only gotten worse for anyone who wants to dump money for an advantage. It's basically just a convenience factor at this point.
    Best action combat is so true though. Some of the best graphics in an MMO as well, and it's been optimized a ton since going to console. Crimson Desert and Plan B will make Pearl Abyss a household name for western gamers, and teach the devs new tricks for their engine which will be backwards compatible with Black Desert.
    In the current pool of playable MMOs, it may very well have the brightest path ahead of it.

    • @xReaghan
      @xReaghan ปีที่แล้ว

      No but the people that P2W their gear which is their choice ofcourse make it less fun for people that actually have less gear and wanna earn it over the weeks/months cause they have a massive advantage played it for 5 years time to move on

  • @macenkajan
    @macenkajan ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Guild Wars 1 is also alive and even ramping up in Player-base. arenanet told that they as of now plan to keep the servers up indefinitely.
    Speciality: The Class- and Build-System is in my opinion one if not THE best of all MMORPGs I have experienced in my life.

  • @ProbablyNotParousia
    @ProbablyNotParousia ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, do you think its possible to play lostark on steam using vpn or would I get banned? Im in the Philippines and I really wanted to play it when it was released but its still not available in my region.

  • @LouieNJ
    @LouieNJ ปีที่แล้ว +12

    GW2 is a great game but the horizontal progression Def makes it feel like there is an overwhelming amount of content sometimes. Def go in with the idea that it's a marathon and not a sprint.

    • @Relhio
      @Relhio ปีที่แล้ว +5

      At least you feel rewarded for what you grind. That Skyscale sure is worth the grind and don't get me started on the convenience of legendaries...

    • @songoku6067
      @songoku6067 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The beauty of gw2 is whatever you do your always rewarded for it it doesnt have that typical "only do this to progress" shit like most of mmorpgs out there

    • @LouieNJ
      @LouieNJ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Relhio I know there are a lot of people that complain about the Skyscale quest chain and a lot of people who defend it. It was a lot to do for a great reward but I didn't enjoy a second of it. It felt like every annoying MMO quest smacked together and I made the mistake of trying to force myself to grind it out and burned out a bit in the process. The two areas the game lacks the most is getting info to new players and some of their design, like the Skyscale unlock, could be modernized. I hope their next stop is PvP though.

    • @missk1697
      @missk1697 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      aaaand now it will be modernized@@LouieNJ

  • @AnalCleaners
    @AnalCleaners ปีที่แล้ว +186

    I always appreciate listening to Peon in the afternoon, while holding my beer, listening to his poetic voice talking about games I love. Thanks mate.

    • @MikeS42069
      @MikeS42069 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Same, but it's morning and I've got a joint

    • @reconquer5176
      @reconquer5176 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Same, but its midnight and ive got an apple juice

    • @vishnu55884
      @vishnu55884 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Same, but it’s the middle of the day and I’ve got depression.

    • @sly2409
      @sly2409 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Literally me at 4pm with a good coffee

    • @danawhiteboy
      @danawhiteboy ปีที่แล้ว

      literally me at 4am can’t sleep

  • @B1u35ky
    @B1u35ky ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Daily players means the number of total players to login on the day. Concurrent players are the amount online at any given time. So if new world has 45k online at once it could certainly have 10x that in total daily players as most people aren’t going to be online all day

    • @c4nchi
      @c4nchi ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah and could be that there are private servers outside steam that steam isn't taking into account?

  • @hannahswinson1975
    @hannahswinson1975 ปีที่แล้ว

    can you recommend any games where you don't control the camera with the mouse? kinda like ffxiv default camera?

  • @IrvineCowie
    @IrvineCowie ปีที่แล้ว

    always liked your content keep it up your vids

  • @kirinkappa5662
    @kirinkappa5662 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    YOU ONCE AGAIN FORGOT TIBIA !!!! 16k players currently online, they ALWAYS show their numbers and this is just the official servers. OTS (Open Tibia Server) have many times more than official, + there are games like Pokemon(PokeXGames) or DragonBall games made on Tibia engine. Tibia has to have 100k+ concurrent active players at peak hours, no bots. IT'S ABOUT TIME PEOPLE SToP IGNORING THIS GAME, NO MATTER WHAT YOUR OPINION ON ITS GAMEPLAY IS.

  • @jaysonjamesguerta8510
    @jaysonjamesguerta8510 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    FF14 and Gw2 are the games i keep coming back and still enjoy..i want to play lost ark but its not available here

  • @satisfiedskullservant
    @satisfiedskullservant ปีที่แล้ว

    Out of curiosity, would you classify warframe as an mmo? As it definitely has a large enough population size to be on this video, but I'm 50/50 on whether I'd actually call it an mmorpg

  • @angrykagg421
    @angrykagg421 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOL that road map from wow.. How many years for that heritage armor there blizz?

  • @tonysaxmusic
    @tonysaxmusic ปีที่แล้ว +30

    GW2 is the best game so far from the list! It features horizontal progression, a cool mount system (I even created a Targaryen with a red dragon!), the best cosmetics (any piece of armor or weapon can be used as a cosmetic and dyed to hundreds of colors available), a great storyline (where your character becomes a commandant, with engaging dialogues and recorded voice acting), enjoyable PvP, and relevant armors and weapons! I haven't found as many positive aspects in other games as GW2 managed to deliver. However, I did purchase the expansions and some gold to reach my current state of satisfaction with the game.

    • @Louvenoire05
      @Louvenoire05 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Agreed.

    • @mho...
      @mho... 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah its overall good, but without inventory & itemslot expansions, its gets "overfloweing" really fast!
      and the inventory management isnt the best tbh!
      but still fun overall!

    • @LurnWell
      @LurnWell 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There's something about GW2 players that makes them feel the game isn't appreciated. It's definitely the most player promoted mmorpg. All comments on the game look like promo.

  • @pirateking9677
    @pirateking9677 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    eso has the best open world questing by far ! just wish it had better looking combat animations.

  • @JH-vb1wo
    @JH-vb1wo ปีที่แล้ว

    I woke up yesterday and said I’m starting a new mmo and I chose final fantasy online and I’m extremely happy I did even in early game I’m coming across tons of real players along with npc and the game is huge

  • @vidabee8672
    @vidabee8672 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome, and helpful, thank you!

  • @renno2679
    @renno2679 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    After watching Bofuri, I'm kind of sad that no other MMOs are as socially active (yes some have lively world chats, but rarely ever in person, so to speak), or have devs that hold events regularly that actually give out rewards that are worth playing for. Take GW2 for example. Every event pretty much just gives you scraps - and the game's regular content already give you scraps. Like okay cool...
    Also what happened to MMOs that let you assign skill points like RO? Some MMOs are on the right track like New World, but it doesn't feel like it has much impact on diversity...

    • @artch4
      @artch4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      is bofuri an anime with the anime girl being a tanker?

  • @glkification
    @glkification 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thanks for the list! I play WoW mostly (fantastic game), and dip my toes into other MMORPGs here and there. Trying GW2 atm and it's pretty amazing so far!

  • @trewts
    @trewts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I just gave a second chance for Lost Ark and the amount of bots I've met while leveling is crazy. Out of 100 players I've seen 5 real players. If you check class stats, 99% of classes are warriors or mages - most common classes for bots. Game itself is actually cool except end game gear upgrade lottery, that's where I stopped playing last time.

  • @daddyegaming
    @daddyegaming ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, any of these games can be played multi-platform?

  • @Glorfindeld2
    @Glorfindeld2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I will forever be disappointed that people STILL play Blizzard games.

    • @mycroftholmes7379
      @mycroftholmes7379 ปีที่แล้ว

      I play Wc3. Yes, people still play Blizzard Games. Deal with it.

  • @TheCrazyyashley
    @TheCrazyyashley ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Having played a bunch of the MMO's on this list, I gotta give absolute credit to Guild Wars 2. I respect a game that respects my time and my wallet, and GW2 delivers. I enjoy that my gear is always relevant, no matter how long I may stop playing for. I don't have time for constant progression grinds in games with work and everything else.
    I'm able to log onto GW2, and kill some massive meta world bosses/events with tons of other players on an absolute whim. Friendliest player-base I've ever come across, as the game and community encourages it. Do some achievement hunting, fashion collecting, decent crafting, great mount system, graphics that still hold up, and a game that always feels alive with its environment and graphics. Seriously can't recommend enough!

    • @suthobay
      @suthobay ปีที่แล้ว

      fkn GW2 shills spamming the mmorpg videos...gtfo

    • @_Crimson._
      @_Crimson._ ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it playable on mobile2

  • @dyzze9696
    @dyzze9696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I played Eve Online for about 10 years. I quit playing in 2019 when the Devs started making a lot of bad "QoL" changes. They bottlenecked a lot of currency making, reduced asteroid yield for mining(A lot), nerfed a bunch of important, isk making, ships, reduced incursion spawns(large group content), and made ratting(killing npc's for bounty money) more tedious. The people who thrive in the game now are running 10+ accounts and multi-boxing constantly. Sure it's still playable, a gorgeous game, and a PvP experience that will give you a rush like no other, but if you want to get involved in capital warfare and be able to replace 1 - 100 Billion isk+ ships efficiently then you're gonna need to put in a lot of time and money. This game is a job and its core is making ISK(currency).