What i'm thinking, wow. My brother earlier this year had gotten the trance x. Told me, great bike the trance x, now we are going next level with this moter included. Now the paintjob, is sick as! Love your content.
I'm a retired airline pilot, so I'm tired of having to choose between an ebike and a fully restored P-51 Mustang! I just checked out the $6000 (U.S.) Elite 3. In a medium, it's 45 pounds, 11 ounces or 20.7 Kg. That's very reasonable! Nice and quiet, good app adjustability. This could be the one for me! Buy 2 and have enough left over for 2 range extenders. Honestly, this bike at $6k is way more impressive than an 18.8Kg bike no one can afford!
Hey Sam have you done a range test on this bike yet ? Was just wondering what range you'd get with it set at 60n of power like most of the order super lights these days. I'll keep an eye open to see if you do 😊. Keep up the good work 👏
The NEW 2023 Orbea Rise M-Ltd.. 15.9kg (360wh), 16.2kg (540wh), 17.5kg (792wh) 1. 540wh 21700 cell, range extender of 252wh. 792wh 2.. Can full power the New EP801 motor, which now has 600w of peak power. 3. Upgrade the suspension (150mm 36 and Float X) and Tyres, 18.5kg to 19kg with 792wh... Now that's a true Light Weight, Full Power and Battery Range, I just wish that Orbea would allow the customer to decide on the power instead of reducing to the RS.
The Rise’s max power tops at 60nm, this is 85nm. Another is their poor integration. If they had done a better job, I would have considered it. The final consideration is sales and support, where Orbea can’t really compete. When you get e-bikes, this is a serious consideration. I see where Giant is going with this. Interesting bike that tries to bridge both worlds.
Personally, a 140/150mm trail bike needs to be 29er and it's not light compared to others in the same space, I could do a light weight build on my trek and have it under 20kg with 625w.
How does the motor compare to a Bosch CX? I recently sold my Trek rail 9.7. I might get another Trek, but this Giant intrigues me. I really like the Bosch CX motor. The bike looks great...I have never ridden a Syncro motor. Would I be disappointed compared to the Bosch?? Awesome review BTW.
Hey Mike, thanks for the kind words! The Bosch is a powerhouse but the SyncDrive is no slouch maybe check out my range test and hill climb test. Where the Syncdrive actually won but there is more into it! I love the low end cadence of the Syncdrive and it doesn’t have a rattle and it’s next to silent! I feel in a all out drag race the bosch does have the edge. Best would be to go test one if you can.
@@SamsBikes Thanks for the info. Your reviews are really good. You give an honest assessment with no BS. I am not a fan of the paint or the bars on that Giant to be honest. The rest of the bike looks very good. Definitely going to check Giant out. Ride on....
I sold my 22 reign and now have a rail 9 and couldn't be happier, the reign was a lemon frame cracked and motor made squeezing noises it spent more time getting fixed than riding.
@@vaughanboyce3702 Yeah, there is no doubt the Rail is an excellent bike/motor. My buddy bought mine (2020 9.7) so now I am considering either a leftover '22 or a '23 model.
@@SamsBikes Can't find it on their website. Probably not yet available for ordering online. Other solution for big alpine rides (Alps) should be a converte cable to charge the Giant bike through Bosh charger (As most mountain hut have charging point for Bosch units nowadays)
My friend put this bike together for his son and before I knew it he was done th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L When the son came to put it together he was surprised to see it was already done. All he had to do was take the bike to get air and be on his way. My friend did not have any major problems putting this bike together; small issue was putting one of the brakes on straight; however when the son got home he was able to fix it. The bike rides well gears move correctly; good bike for the price. Wrote review after the son took the bike. Sorry.
As cool as that bike looks, I still prefer my Giant Trance X Advanced E+2. I have a 2023 Giant Reign E+2 and with the mullet configuration I find it better for bike parks and downhill but not as maneuverable as a full 29er like the Trance.
Riders what are we thinking? I love it!
I like it a lot! But i do wish they could tell us when they are going to be available!
What i'm thinking, wow. My brother earlier this year had gotten the trance x. Told me, great bike the trance x, now we are going next level with this moter included. Now the paintjob, is sick as! Love your content.
I'm a retired airline pilot, so I'm tired of having to choose between an ebike and a fully restored P-51 Mustang!
I just checked out the $6000 (U.S.) Elite 3. In a medium, it's 45 pounds, 11 ounces or 20.7 Kg. That's very reasonable! Nice and quiet, good app adjustability. This could be the one for me! Buy 2 and have enough left over for 2 range extenders.
Honestly, this bike at $6k is way more impressive than an 18.8Kg bike no one can afford!
Thanks for the comment mate, yep the elite 3 is the perfect entry level light ebike I think!
yeah no p51 all the way, sorry lol
Hey Sam have you done a range test on this bike yet ? Was just wondering what range you'd get with it set at 60n of power like most of the order super lights these days. I'll keep an eye open to see if you do 😊. Keep up the good work 👏
Hey mate I still don’t have the bike yet! But as soon as I do I’ll do it for you and me haha
I have the bike and at 60nm size large and at 200lb with riding gear got me over 17 miles and over 3100 ft of climbing
@yofoo138 a cool thanks mate. I'm about 205lb so good numbers for me !!
Nice bike, could be a game changer... Looking forward to you riding it! 🤞
Thanks bro it’s happening very soon!
Yeah can't wait to see that review! 😎
I get an error on an iPad when I try your bike finder! Is it not available in the US?
That’s very strange! No it’s available worldwide can you try it on your phone or computer?
Looks a real nice bike, any idea the weight of the range extender?
Yep it looks amazing! I feel it would be 1-2kg but not sure yet I’ll try and find out
So that makes the bike 21kg with 600wh of Battery. That's the same as some top end emtb? So weight is based on less range.
The NEW 2023 Orbea Rise M-Ltd.. 15.9kg (360wh), 16.2kg (540wh), 17.5kg (792wh)
1. 540wh 21700 cell, range extender of 252wh. 792wh
2.. Can full power the New EP801 motor, which now has 600w of peak power.
3. Upgrade the suspension (150mm 36 and Float X) and Tyres, 18.5kg to 19kg with 792wh...
Now that's a true Light Weight, Full Power and Battery Range, I just wish that Orbea would allow the customer to decide on the power instead of reducing to the RS.
The Rise’s max power tops at 60nm, this is 85nm. Another is their poor integration. If they had done a better job, I would have considered it. The final consideration is sales and support, where Orbea can’t really compete. When you get e-bikes, this is a serious consideration. I see where Giant is going with this. Interesting bike that tries to bridge both worlds.
Personally, a 140/150mm trail bike needs to be 29er and it's not light compared to others in the same space, I could do a light weight build on my trek and have it under 20kg with 625w.
If you ride a size small for sure and put 2.3 tires paper weight tires
I am like Sam - I want a short intense full power ride climbing New England granite. Perfect bike for that and the are available now
Iain mate get it! Haha 😂 it does look like a lot of fun!
How does the motor compare to a Bosch CX? I recently sold my Trek rail 9.7. I might get another Trek, but this Giant intrigues me. I really like the Bosch CX motor. The bike looks great...I have never ridden a Syncro motor. Would I be disappointed compared to the Bosch?? Awesome review BTW.
Hey Mike, thanks for the kind words! The Bosch is a powerhouse but the SyncDrive is no slouch maybe check out my range test and hill climb test. Where the Syncdrive actually won but there is more into it! I love the low end cadence of the Syncdrive and it doesn’t have a rattle and it’s next to silent! I feel in a all out drag race the bosch does have the edge. Best would be to go test one if you can.
@@SamsBikes Thanks for the info. Your reviews are really good. You give an honest assessment with no BS. I am not a fan of the paint or the bars on that Giant to be honest. The rest of the bike looks very good. Definitely going to check Giant out. Ride on....
I sold my 22 reign and now have a rail 9 and couldn't be happier, the reign was a lemon frame cracked and motor made squeezing noises it spent more time getting fixed than riding.
@@vaughanboyce3702 Yeah, there is no doubt the Rail is an excellent bike/motor. My buddy bought mine (2020 9.7) so now I am considering either a leftover '22 or a '23 model.
@@vaughanboyce3702 yes junk frames i 2022 model im selling because of cracking problem
Someone at Giant is listening to what people want.
How much does the range extender weigh?
I agree Rick! I’m trying to get a weight on that!
What is going on with the giant fork 2 inch taper fork ???
This sounds like the best of both worlds.
Totally it’s a beast
Is that 18.8kg plus 200wh extender over 20kg?
It’s will be sub 20 just around 18,8
Wicked bike
It really looks like it!
Is the battery removable
Good question!
On the Orbea Rise, i think it cannot
It can in both by removing the motor first. Takes 15-25 min
Drop the motor and you can take out the battery
The 4th model bike has a aluminum rear triangle they are not carbon from base build to top of the line
Does this motor have motor resistance when ridingg no power
No it’s actually pretty good!
@@SamsBikes Can you ride it when the battery dies for this specific motor?
Is this battery" water "bottle already available?
Yes it is 1.2kg and 200wh
@@SamsBikes Can't find it on their website. Probably not yet available for ordering online. Other solution for big alpine rides (Alps) should be a converte cable to charge the Giant bike through Bosh charger (As most mountain hut have charging point for Bosch units nowadays)
Finally got the product codes for ordering....to find out it only fits the L or Xl frames probably 😢
My friend put this bike together for his son and before I knew it he was done th-cam.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L When the son came to put it together he was surprised to see it was already done. All he had to do was take the bike to get air and be on his way. My friend did not have any major problems putting this bike together; small issue was putting one of the brakes on straight; however when the son got home he was able to fix it. The bike rides well gears move correctly; good bike for the price. Wrote review after the son took the bike. Sorry.
2.4 for speed 2.6 for comfort
Awsome 🤩
Yep it’s pretty rad!
Problem is that we can’t even airship the 200w batteries
This is true
As cool as that bike looks, I still prefer my Giant Trance X Advanced E+2. I have a 2023 Giant Reign E+2 and with the mullet configuration I find it better for bike parks and downhill but not as maneuverable as a full 29er like the Trance.
The speed and power of a motorcycle. With matching price point. Yikes!
Just like tele sales…
Thanks for the kind words! Don’t like it very simple don’t watch it
Wish it didnt have live valve
You can get the lower models and build it how you like it!