THE ICE MACHINE IS NOT PRODUCING
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ส.ค. 2024
- This was an Ice machine that wasn't producing, it actually had been down for a few months.
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A broken ice machine you say, odds are you gonna be there all day.
Never cleaned in all these years, about to be rinsed in technician tears.
Water sensor always failing, iceguide pieces into the tray is hailing.
Clean it drain it all for hours, until the madness overpowers.
10/10
“In tears.”
You have 80K people attending your "weekly service calls log" meeting
Instead of just your employees
That means that yes.
You're doing it right
These are some of the best HVACR videos. I used to run maintenance for a restaurant chain in the midwest. These videos bring me back to those days. I've since moved on to running large compound operations overseas. I love to see my roots during your videos. Your stepped approach ensures nothing is overlooked. Kudos to your method of training those less experienced.
The ice machine can't have her babies, Fridge doctor Chris saves the day!
I thought the same thing😂😂😂
lmao 😂
Emergency c-section; there you go now you can keep laying your ice eggs.
I'm a restaurant manager, I enjoy your videos learning what the techs do that come out when I put in a service call. I would love a video where you go over what equipment brands, models, etc you recommend for new equipment purchases. You would probably know best what equipment brands are easy to work on, last long, well built, and which brands are complete garbage. I've had numerous techs tell me avoid True, the management before me bought all True as as pieces fail, I am looking for what brands to purchase.
True are not bad as long as the Kitchen is not hot. Max ambient on a True is 86 degrees.
Traulsen makes the Best Refrigerator & freezers.
Hoshizaki make the Best ice machines.
Here’s a Running List that i Have compiled over the Years. I Keep this List in the Notepad section of My iPhone.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ 👍🇺🇸Refrigeration Manufacturers.
Quality & Ambient Heat Rating of Equiptment.
Updated:
April 2020 --- ✅
No Results yet :
1. For Hoshizaki Prep tables or refrigerators. they say they are Engineered for 100 Degree Ambient. Prep. Table quality - UNKNOWN. Refrigerator Quality - Unknown. But Hoshizaki Does Make the Best ice Machine on the Planet !!!
2. Blue Air - Refrigerators. as of 2020. unknown.
--- Lowest ---- Quality.
2-3 Years then Problems.
Saba --- Chinese
Norpole --- Chinese
Atosa --- Chinese
Fridgecon --- Chinese
Avantco --- Chinese
Blueair --- Chinese
uStar --- Chinese
⭐️ Chinese -- Cheapest crap ! ever ! only Lasts 2 years and change.
Atosa --- Cheap , terrible quality.
evaporator leaks at 2-3 years.
Artic Air --- Low Quality. American.
------------ Low -------
Fridgecon --- ?
Avantco --- 1 Year Parts & Labor. 5 Year compressor. Part only. is supported by what seems tobe a reputable big company.
Vortex Refrigeration --- Low to Medium Quality. no warranty to speak of.
---------- Medium -------
⭐️⭐️⭐️ True ---Medium quality. 10-15 Life of unit. NOT - For Hot kitchens Though !!! 86 degree max ambient rating. Air Conditioned Kitchens only. DO Not use on a Cook Line.
Great Warranty though. 3 year Parts & Labor.
5 year compressor.
Silver king --- Medium quality. 10-15 year Life.
Turbo Air ---Medium Quality + Hot cookline - Rated to 110 degree cookline i believe. 3 Year warranty prep. tables. 5 year compressor.
updated ---7-4-19.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Everest --- Medium Quality. 3 year Warranty. 5 Year compressor part only. Warranty cooperation unknown. But, the Customer service in Parts is Pretty awesome.
-------- High Quality --------
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Continental ---High Quality + Hot Cookline Approved. 100 degree's +
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Delfield --- 3 Years Parts & Labor. --- High Quality.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Beverage air --- 3 Years Parts & Labor. High Quality --- 100 Degree Ambient Rating.
2004 unit - still going. never been worked on. this is Jan 2019.
Victory - -- High Quality - 20-30 Year Life span.
⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ Traulsen--- High Quality. Cadillac of Refrigeration. 20-30 Year Life span of Boxes.
--- ice Machines ---
1. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ # 1 --- Best --- Hoshizaki---ice machines---The Best / Very High Quality. 10-20 years.
2. ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️ # 2 --- Good --- Manitowoc & ice o matic. 6-10 years.
I love my true equipment. I'd also be interested in a video that goes over brands and models.
Been subscribed for a while, and still cannot understand *why* I am so fascinated by these videos.
Not just entertaining, but educational as well. Appreciate the content, please keep it up.
Thanks so much!!
You also doing this video for us the entry level. After I got hired at a small ice machine company, I have thrown to the Wolfs in the first week, just because you're an HVAC residential doesn't mean that you're going to troubleshoot the ice machine. Yea, your videos is a superman help to me. I've subscribed and looking for more educational videos. Thx.
Cleaning up wires makes me happy.
I don’t understand a single thing but I keep watching these videos
Good morning! I am a heavy diesel mechanic for my career but love watching your channel! Believe it or not the viper coil cleaner works wonders on a condenser on what I work on! Also buy watching you I have been doing my own maintenance on my home a/c unit! Thank you sir for the great content and stay safe!
It's videos like these that justify my decision to order any drinks without ice at restaurants
The fountain drink machines are just as bad
@@aaronpantoja2251 I'm sure they are, what I tell myself to get over that is I get diet which has less chance of nasty shit growing in it I hope because there is no sugar. I know it probably doesn't really make any difference, but it helps my sanity lol.
I've been drinking from those machines for my whole life. Damn maybe that's what is wrong with me lol.
Love how you broke down the troubleshooting process, really helps guys like me see how your process works for figuring things out
I guess my OCD kicks in when I see electrical wiring in a mess as that ice machine had on the roof unit. I can't understand why some HVAC tech would leave it like that knowing they may be the one to come back and work it. I know you take your time and do a proper re-wire and I'm glad you do. That shows concern for the customer.
Excellent class on ice machine troubleshooting. I love the explanation on the control system and the sequence of operation of the whole machine. I agree on installing a non OEM fan cycle control. Thank you very much for videos like this.
That restaurant is gross! Greasy roof, bypass water filters, no cleaning company for ice machine and UV bulbs- screw that cleanliness costs too much for them. Yuck!
If I were in the business this channel would be indispensable . I just love watching someone troubleshoot , some people just can't do it the correct way . Knowing how it works is very important and sometimes you need to take the time to understand the science behind the mechanics before you start swapping parts.
I don't know how many times I have seen a rats nest of wires and said, l'd hate to be the one to have to work on that. I've also had to be the one to work on that, so when I see you clean those up I think man, why can't people do things right the first time. Great job guy! Keep up the great videos. There are tons of people that need to see the right way to do things and don't have the teacher to show them.
I hope one day I get to go back to school for these. Very educational videos thx
in the automotive world, older cars had a similar thermostatic switch which ran decent current, and they failed often. A fix I would do would be replace the switch and have it run a relay and let the relay take the load. id never see the car again for that issue. nowadays obv cars have a thermistor and the fans are relay or pwm controlled via the computer. no doubt there are better ways to do it, but a relay increased the reliability to the point of being a fit and forget item.
Thank you for all that you do for hvac industry.
When I was at Manitowoc for factory training, the instructor actually admitted that the fan cycling control had a bad production run, and they had switched suppliers. Yet the issue remains.
I think your solution is the best thing for the customer. It avoids the inevitable call back when the fan cycling control fails again.
Oh, and just for the record, anyone who can admit that they make mistakes and goes back out into the field every day, has my respect. Keep on keeping on😎✌🖖👍
I'm jealous I have always wanted to go to the factory training!! I will discuss this on my Livestream this evening 9/21/20 @ 5:PM (pacific) on TH-cam come check it out and no worries if you cant make it live as it will post as a normal video afterwards. th-cam.com/video/V7xyGNgTGw0/w-d-xo.html
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If you ever get the chance to go do it. Talking with technicians from all around the world about how they do things is an amazing experience.
I'm not even an HVAC person, I'm a mechanical designer. But I appreciate the value of these videos to reinforce troubleshooting methodology. And hell, I might even learn some HVAC, which is a long way outside my wheel house (but is an interest).
Same thing just happened to me for the fan cycle switch for a Manitowoc. For mine the terminals on top of the switch completely shorted out. Made the repairs same as you. Thanks for the videos!
Chris's videos fascinate me. It seems HVAC techs will never be without work.
Just started with a company that deals with manitowoc ice machine. Great video n thanks. ☕☕
I know nothing about repairing ice machines or ACs I just enjoy the videos
You are a great teacher Chris! I appreciate the time you take to make videos. I have learned a lot from them. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
Please have more of this stuff. Nice video.
Great video Chris! Very though troubleshoot and repair!! Did you ever get that water filter situation straighten out? That is another thing that would have been good to show to your techs! The lack of PM really shows on this machine! Thanks for another awesome video Chris!
Had the 'HPCO active' two weeks ago. On our in-store all in one unit.
Cleaned the backside condenser. As that one was nearly plugged. Still no joy but the condenser was burning hot.
It was a non working fan. The motor was locked in. Had to Call to have it replaced.
But nice to see you showing the other things that could be wrong with a Manitowoc ice machine..
Never thought about putting a aftermarket pressure control. Good tip thanks
I think you are doing a good job describing what you do and why. And the videos are generally having a good length for viewing too.
Useful good videos have a tendency to attract viewers.
Haven’t had an ice machine vid in a while
I know little about ice machines, so I find these most fascinating!
They’re not very photogenic, a lot of the time they freeze up on camera.
I had a Manitowoc fan cycling switch fail on a weekend service call in the winter (in Canada). I don't remember what the outdoor air temp was but it was cold enough that the rooftop condensing unit didn't need the fan cycling switch and during harvest with the fan on the Ice Maker was able to harvest.
Another awesome video !!
That roof is so disgusting. Excellent work and thanks for the content stay safe and take care
I used to follow a tech that lives to put 4ft hosed on the golf 502 machines,then we would get a service call,he just could not grasp the concept that he was robbing 5 oz of refer every time he did that, he actually thought the machine sucked it back in!
Great video Chris, thanks for all the information. A few months ago I purchased some tools from Tru Tech and tried to use Big Picture in the promo code but it didn't seem to acknowledge that code. I probably could have called them and asked what the problem was but just placed the order anyway without receiving any discount. After watching this video you mentioned a savings of 8% with that code which is a nice discount so I will be sure to speak to a sales rep at Tru Tech next time I have trouble entering your code. Thanks again for posting all your videos. I'm a big fan of HVACR Videos.
Yeah the code is BIGPICTURE one word....
So I've been watching your videos for a little while and would be curious to learn more about the terminology.
Would you consider doing a quick overview of different components, or point me to a video that explains it well? I.e. what's high head pressure actually mean :)? What is a sight glass?
I've kinda picked up on things here and there but I'm curious to learn more! A "for dummies" playlist :)?
Thanks for the videos!
Man It would be nice to find a company that provides that kind of training!
and thank you because I have use your coupon to buy tools and plan to buy some more
I appreciate that! I will be going live on TH-cam this evening 9/21/20 @ 5:PM (pacific) to discuss my most recent uploads and answer questions from email’s , the TH-cam chat and the live chat. Come on over and check it out th-cam.com/video/V7xyGNgTGw0/w-d-xo.html
I loved your walk thru keep It up
Good video ! ( Ftngot ) Suction Accumulators design life is 5-8 Years. I Would definately Try to Schedule a “ Planned “ Replacement of that Suction Drier & accumulator. It Will Definately Leak Very soon ! 👍👍 on the Proper Fan Cycle control !
As usual a great video from you Chris ; always learn alot from you Ive decided I'm gonna go to HVACR school, you've Inspires me to be a tech, your diligence is awesome and your videos are always a learning point , you explain everything like a true mentor etc , I'm going to try get an apprenticeship with a HVAC r company
Replacing one of these bullsh*t peanut style pressure switches with a proper traditional pressure switch must feel like you've made the world a better place !
Uggghh! Absolute CRAVEN negligence in their entire HVAC system. But.... business for you.. great vid!
Great videos 👍🙏👏 thank you
I really enjoy your videos but I have to say I like it when more time is spent showing the job and less time on the recap. Thanks for the effort you put into making these videos.
7:58 is definitely a TADA worthy moment. Bravo Zulu.
You did it right,
I enjoyed watching your videos to the end, but on this one you went really quickly that I couldn’t find you changed the high pressure switch,,,!
But thank you for the info you provide every time.
Thanks,,
Excellent video sir
Using the vids as a teaching tool, GREAT IDEA. Also, it could be that you have a rare fault, but memory may tell you about it and you can drag it out to show your people what happened that earlier time.
Very informative!!! love the videos watched to the end !!
thanks chris very good tips there
I always try to paint the accumulator with some spray paint to try to help it keep it leak free for a bit longer.
Thank you sir 🇯🇲
Thanks for another Stellar video 👍👌😎
2:27 - you should consider something less likely to hurt your skin :) AND try doing it after the job not before hand. Then you may stay clean longer :)
Great video ! Keep up the good work!
Nice find!! Don't find lots of manitowoc but do hoshizaki a lot... That johnson control is good and better then the oem ice o matic is almost all mechanical and harvest is initiated by a close on the pressure control and time delay...
Great job and video
We have plenty of ice machines but few issues with those pressure control. The only thing I don’t like about those t firings is that they look like a cheap fix and there is more room for leaks but to each its own.
Really enjoy your videos. Thanks. You are very good and are a great problem solver. Give some insight into your education and or on the job experience. You would be a great consultant for hvac manufacturers or design firms. Have you ever done consulting? Thanks for your videos and keep up the good work.
No i've never done any consulting, it sounds interesting but I have absolutely no idea how to get involved in something like that
If you ever do a call on a Scotsman ice machine, post up a vid please, I used to work on them a lot including the watercooled condenser ones. Back in the baaad 'ol days!
Thanks Chris.
Excellent replacement for those crappy fan cycling MA ATOWIC CONTROLS, BUT IT ALSO LOOKS LIKE THE WATER FILTERS WERE BEING BUPASSED. LIME/CALCIUM, ON THOSE EVAPS CAUSE THE ICE TO HANGUP IN THE EVAPS , leading to low ice delivery . Cheers 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Aww yaa, I love me some ice machine videos! Thanks!
If your going to scrape the paint off, you should carry a can of spray paint to replace it.
Love it! Great one! Badass! Rock n roll baby!
Thanks Dennis!
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Chris "contactor" strikes again.... any reason to replace a contactor, any and this one was a reach! You must own stock in the contactor manufacturers. lol Just joking around, don't take it seriously.
As far as cleaning up wires, as OCD I am and like things neat, I do make an exception to leave high current conductors a little long. That way if you get a loose and hot connection there is enough wire to cut it back to good copper and you don't have to replace a whole run. Function over form in this case, as long as you can make it look nice and not stuff a box with excess. Of course if it's 12" run or so not a big deal. But something running through conduit from a disconnect or something I always try to leave extra, as long as I can. Nothing worse than finding a loose connection, bad wire and it just doesn't make it once you cut it clean, or now you have just enough to make it fit and looks banjo tight. Short wires can make a 5 minute job an hour of headaches. But, everyone has their own way of doing things and none of them are inherently wrong. Keep the videos coming.
Chris is more skeptical of contactors than most electricians HAHAHA.
I wold not call it OCD. I would call it pride in your work. Chris's work shows that he cares and has pride in his work. Some young technicians don't get that.
Chris is just an invention of the contactor industry to sell more contactors.
As a tech, I think my weak side is Ice machine operation. How did you gain so much knowledge on them? By reading the manuals or did you take a class or what?
Thanks, a lot of good information on Manitowoc. Do you ever come across nugget machines? If so, I could use a break down video. Thanks Chris
Thank You
Nicely maintained roof ... Lol ... Good vid ...
Holy hell that roof is DISGUSTING.
Not really that bad
Lol it’s almost the worst I’ve seen.
@@hightide9513 yeah those exhaust fans making a mess
Clifton green , you have never a dirty roof, if that little bothers you , 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
That condensing unit was rough
Do more ice machines, they are interesting
I will try!! I will be going live on TH-cam this evening 9/21/20 @ 5:PM (pacific) to discuss my most recent uploads and answer questions from email’s , the TH-cam chat and the live chat. Come on over and check it out th-cam.com/video/V7xyGNgTGw0/w-d-xo.html
I have learned alot from watching your videos.
Update on the Traulson two-door side-by-side at work: compressor failure (again). Maybe this time they'll actually bolt the new compressor down?
Like you, I would have organized that rat's nest of wiring. It looked like Spaghetti Junction in there!
Yea man Manitowoc are fairly straightforward machines. Scottsman and hoshies are ok also.
Good one Chris
imagine hiring someone and they say "oh i know how to do that I watched your vid" lol
Chris what would you say the investment is in all the tools you have? It seems tens of thousands of dollars are involved here.
Should look at the icm 325 low ambient control
HPCO on a mani seems to always be that fan cycle switch 😂
Hey man I just got a quick question maybe you might know. Sometimes when I turn my truck on the air conditioner just fails to run and won't make cold air , but if I turn the truck back off and let it sit for about 10 minutes then turn it back on the air conditioner works fine it doesn't happen very often and my company won't bother to fix it!
2:25 You clean yourself with coil cleaner?
So just how dirty was the machine? And did the fix the filters as well as the UV Bulbs to help with sterilize?
Sweet video!
Nice video
If retailers want to be smart and maintain their machines, do you offer flat rates over time to do that? Kind of like when car dealers charge a flat fee for oil changes on new cars over the life of the car? Lots of retailers think it's automatically going to cost thousands if they call you out for maintenance, so they never call. I see nothing wrong with letting people know that they have options other than just waiting for the machines to break down.
7:15 Any second...... BOOM!
👍👍👍 Excellent
Hey Chris, would it be possible for you to do a video on your van set up
i replaced the fan switch on my own machine. dog's love the ice.
I think the fan cycle switch should be on the 24v circuit that controls a separate condenser fan motor contactor...
It still needs a pressure control so it would just complicate the matter. I’m just surprised it doesn’t come with a better pressure control device from the factory, considering that’s pretty damn important lol.
@@hightide9513 what I'm saying is that the contacts in the pressure switch aren't rated well enough for the inductive load of the fan motor... not saying eliminate the pressure switch...
Have you played around with the LCD touchscreen on the newer ice machine Chris?
Yeah it seems pretty cool
Could have just metered the switch first, saved a boatload of time and money. Once switch is swapped, no need to test condenser fan unless it didn't spool up for some other reason.
Have you ever had to work on a Flash Freezer? Usually those run at temperatures of -32 to -55. Let me know.
No i havent
the factory high pressure switch is not good for cicle under load use .... the aftermarket one is much more reliable and easy to mantain
Yep!! I will discuss this on my Livestream this evening 9/21/20 @ 5:PM (pacific) on TH-cam come check it out and no worries if you cant make it live as it will post as a normal video afterwards. th-cam.com/video/V7xyGNgTGw0/w-d-xo.html
trouble with employees is, "everyone wants to learn but not everyone wants to be taught".
What's with that blowout looking spot at the top of the receiver on the suction line (compressor side)?