Episode one was truly poor. Not surprised. No talent left for writng anymore it seems. Why on earth did they not stay faithful to the original. it was perfect
@@Molotov_Milkshake Nomura wanted it to be a 1:1 faithful remake. It was Nojima, the WRITER, who wanted all this meta bs. It's no coincidence that the same writer for the last handful of KH games is the same writer responsible for this "remake" trilogy. Nomura was forced on this project.
Sephiroth has become Pyramid Head. Always ending up in places he doesn't belong. I waited since 06 for this remake and the flying scrotum goblins always made me question wtf was going on in the trailers and while playing. It wasn't until I made it to the final stage that I realized this isn't a remake, a reboot or even a remaining. It's a sequel that they expect every new player to be on board with and not confused whatsoever that only a Kingdom Hearts veteran could be prepared for. Cyberpunk wasn't the game that made me question Sony's refund policy, this game was. Unfortunately you'd only find out the b.s 39 hours in so only a GOG policy could have saved my money. Then they turn around and make the game that most fans wanted into a mobile gacha game. I can't see it as anything but spiteful after seeing the meta reason of the Whispers existence. They sure did push the big red button for this game but ofc it was pressed with a monkey's paw because why not. All those FF7 Remake fan projects getting cease and desists for this smh. If they were upfront about these changes in a way that didn't spoil things, I 100% would have been on board. I suffered through every part of the FF7 Compilation after all so I think I could put up with almost everything. "Changes for a modern audience" doesn't cut it.
as a KH veteran i am not happy with most of the things Nomura does i will never forgive him for DDD, never ever. the lack of stakes in his works aggravate me to no end since it feels like he can just retcon anything. but hey, if you throw everything at the wall, you might have a couple of moments that are actually decent
Good point. Adding shit instead of making the game better and more fun is always a bad idea. First make it fun to last, after which you can multiply and dilute it as much as you want as that genuine fan factor will carry it. If it is fun to play, people will not care how cheap and crappy it is in other quality aspects. To me, FF7 R looks like more work and less fun. No thanks.
It's just stupid cuz now, its not gonna be a good remake, and it's a terrible sequel because its gonna retread 90% of the same plot as the first story in the series. Unless they're planning on making a part 4 and 5 that fully delve into the concepts of the sequel, while using parts 1-3 to supplement those concepts while retelling the the original story. But even that would still feel dumb. 3 setup games to get to the real story of the sequel. Or 3 games that are neither good remake nor good sequel.
I loved 8. I think 7 is my favorite, then 8. 8 would be an even better game if they ditched the draw system and had combat similar to 7. It blew my mind that 8 didn't have any armor or accessories. 8 punishes you for using magic and for leveling up/killing enemies.
The junction system was definitely a cool IDEA, the implementation was downright broken. There isn't an easier FF because of it, but there also isn't a more back to front FF either, it genuinely made the game bonkers which kind of suited it. Hell, I don't mind one FF game being completely broken, it can be fun. Towing the line isn't always the most fun.
@@upon-fe2720 the main issue with the Junction System isn't the system itself, its how FF8 does no effort of gatekeeping the best stuff until later, and how easy it is to get endgame builds on disc 1, and how Level Scaling also completely backfired in FF8. play FF8 Ragnarok Mod, and you will be faced with a game that actually fights back, and leveling is no longer a cardinal sin.
One of the problems that the FF7 "Remake" had was that they wanted to do the same things Hideo Kojima did with Metal Gear Solid 2. So instead of a "Remake" we got a "Sequel". Not only that the people are using the excuse that the original game had 3 discs, the reason for that was each "Disc" was 700 MB so limited space. Now with the Final Fantasy 7 "Remake" taking place over 3 games, that's essentially Xenosaga all over again.
Oh so i is a trilogy? Is the second game going to be called FF7: Remake 2. Or with the X style naming: FF 7-R-2. R2-D2, I think I found a friend of yours. XD P.S. I guess the Remake demo is FF-7-R1-D1.
But with MGS2, the theme of misinformation was a meta theme from the beginning with its marketing and is thoroughly baked into the game's story itself.
@@aFutureSelf Facts. Kojima Actually played up with the themes of MGS2 SOL very well with the marketing. It wasn't a slap in the face of MGS1, just showing players what happens when you have high expectations for sequels. Where as Nomura clearly showed he was trying to change everything with the OG FF7 with FF7R, due to him clearly not liking OG FF7. Hence the slap at the face ending of them "changing destiny" by changing all the masterful story beats of the OG FF7.
it's insane how many fanboys insist they were honest and say you're stupid for not knowing it wasn't a remake when it has remake in the frigging title and everyone 'fell for it'
@@Luca-bel - I agree. I just got half a dozen people reply to my comments on the original upload of this, calling me an idiot for not knowing from pre-release interviews and stuff that this wasn't a remake. Like, who watches all those interviews xD
@@WorthlessWinner lol I feel where you’re coming from. The average buyer won’t go through these interviews. I try to avoid spoilers whenever possible after the initial trailer, so I sure as hell wouldn’t.
I would have minded, if they want to tell their own story then don't drape the dead skin of a beloved IP over themselves while they tell it, make their own game. If they want to remake FF7 then respect the game, the creators and the fanbase and make a faithful adaptation with that in mind.
That means you are a real gamer, we need more gamers like you then maybe this industry can get back on track, because there ain't no getting off this train
@@livetorek4723I enjoy the original too. And people will say “it’s nostalgia” except it isn’t. I haven’t played the game. I was playing it along side Remake and Rebirth. Granted that took a lot of stopping on the originals part given all the padding. Damn…. I was shocked how quickly I got from the first reactor to the second in the original. Soooo much padding. Now I’m just going through the original to finish the story. And I love the moral ambiguity of the characters in the original. They are too “good” in the remakes.
@@formanga8871no, a conventional remake akin to resident evils. Same story and atmosphere but retold with voice acting and better graphics and gameplay. Fixes to the issues in the original game and slight expansion where necessary.
There's some crappy mobile gacha game that has blocky 3d models and is supposed to include all the story from all the final fantasy stuff that exists so far - I imagine someone lost a fight in a boardroom and the "faithful recreation" got sidelined into a mobile game and eventually got weighed down with garbage, and that's what ever crisis is.
I seriously hate how that makes her name sound like a lisp. "Thith ith Aerith." I always said her name the same way they say it now (as opposed to saying it like Ares the Greek god of war), but with an S instead of the lisp sounding TH.
This was all done to try and rope in and appease 20 year old kids, that are into hack and slash rubbish whenever they aren't playing Call of Duty cause ''Turn based is old fashioned M8'' despite 80% of the purist fan base actually disagreeing is it FECK old fashioned. The state of FF16 as well.
I personally think this entire game was made purely to appease Nomura's delusional ego. It's not for fans of the original, and it's certainly not for newcomers.
7:28 "Originally you didn't get a real hint at Sephiroth until the Shin-Ra building, never seeing him in person until the ship, before then it was just a flashback and his sword. Sephiroth is really possible now, so they would show him before his debut." There's an interview with Tetsuya Nomura where he talks about the decision to put Sephiroth in so early. He describes that his decision to do so was done very whimsically, and I get the impression that Tetsuya would rather not be working on this remake at all.
Seems Nomura would rather work on his convoluted shitshows like KH & Verum Rex, than one of the most influential JRPG’s in gaming. It’s pure hubris. Judging from Rufus’ redesign, you can tell Square had to bar Nomura from shoving 12+ leather belts up everyone’s ass.
@@indedgames4359 I’ve played the original and I can tell you that Nomura is a fucking conceited hack. Ptolemy made a video laying out Square’s history, and how little role he has in said company. Nomura never wanted to make this game, he clearly wanted to work on his own projects- like Verum Rex, KH, and Versus XIII. Sakaguchi was the real genius behind FFVII. Kitase was only the director, so fuck him for trying to change the story. Not to mention, Squaresoft and Squeenix aren’t the same company- whoever made the OG great either lost that magic, or was fired.
my favorite part of this game was when cloud and barrett had trouble opening a metal door in the Shinra Tower, and literally 20 minutes later Cloud is slicing through ENTIRE BUILDINGS with his sword. this game is a mess.
My fave game though, 7 being my favourite. Shame you couldn't find enjoyment out of it. Truly breaks my heart that there is the minority that dislike the game, they put so much love into it. Genuinely had me in tears multiple times, felt like the game was made for me, at that moment in time. A truly magical gaming experience for me that I don't think can ever be replicated. All final fantasy's play fast and loose with suspension of belief, it's not The Sopranos. The fact is, the characters are beautifully acted and realised, the locations are beautifully remade and the story turns into a sequel towards the end. I can't love it more. So many surprises, the combat is so much fun and I've had the joy of spending a year both theory crafting and theory delving. It's been a highlight of my gaming life, and I'll be 40 soon.
Yes, the lack of realism is bad in this game... They even wear their weapons on the train which is weird that the people on the train is not scared of them especially that they are wanted from shinra. Also when they infiltrated the Shinra building there were no people inside I was like WTF. Voice Acting was bad also especially the Dialogue... The only saving grace in this game was the Graphics, Music, and gameplay.... its the thing that I still scored it 8/10
@@neilbertmillar9960 I agree. I bought the game couple month ago,Just happend to play a few chapter recently, I laugh so hard with how not make sense the game logic. I don't like how the female character act, It''s overboard like anime girl with camera focus too much on their face. Very annoy dialogue. From fanboi og ff7 very disappoint.
Would they've just sticked to the OG as close as possible without all the changes in story and atmosphere, without that filler content, new extras and sidequests, it would have been a masterpiece and probably would have been released in one piece already. Would have been a great game for completely new players and old fans alike. How could they screw this up? The task of making a one-to-one port of the original game with current-gen technical possibilities seems to be much easier than what they've actually done to this game now.
No it would have ended up terrible. Everyone knowing everything, every secret, every quest, every order of locations...Every game breaking materia combination...people would just have complained about nothing being added.
@@arphayas2826 New players wouldn't complain, since they don't know anything about the game. Old fans of the OG are buying the remake exactly because they don't wanted to see any major changes to the main story. Simple as that.
@@unepicgamer4260 Not as simple as that. Played the original before Remake was even announced in the first place, replaying it rn while waiting for Rebirth. There is no value in playing a HD high end graphics game 25 Years later you know all about. Except for nostalgia ofc that is. If this was just the original with Remakes looks we would run through some mostly empty hallway/filler maps to the next location (Remember Sector 6 Slums or the Pathways in the glacier?). The Devs even use this to follow visions and implement content they would have wanted in the OG but couldnt implement back at the time.
@@arphayas2826 The expression ''as close as possible'' leaves room for minor changes and sidequests. Telling the backstory of characters like Biggs, Jessie and Wegde for instance, is a good idea. Splitting the ''remake'' into three parts and completely changing the main story, however, is a slap in the face for us old fans and as close as it get's to what one could call false advertising.
@@unepicgamer4260 Yet still it was stated the result of the Remake Trilogy will be the Events of the Movie so I still think it will end up pretty similar in its core. Ofc we have the ghosts n stuff but you know what I mean
All we wanted was a Resident Evil 1 style remake. Give us redrawn, high-res, gorgeously animated pre-rendered backgrounds with high quality character models and then go all out on the graphics in the turn-based combat. It was so simple but they still found a way to 'SquareEnix' all over it. Also, I love that TH-cam puts a panel to buy or rent Advent Children along side this. I actually liked AC. The complete version is way better.
@@HopeIsFleeting Im just guessing here but... because they remade every other FF game 1 through 6, remastered 8 and 10 (can't remember if they did 9), so why would anyone expect them to do differently with 7? Subverting expectations for the sake of it doesn't make something good or interesting unless it's backed up with meaningful context or depth of metaphor, or some type of foreshadowing or layered detail. When something is done solely for shock value it lacks almost any inherent value beyond the shock.
@@Scoliosis The only Final Fantasy games they've remade are 1 (kind of) and 7. The rest are remasters. Strangers of Paradise is also very different to FFI so you're literally arguing against your point. My expectations weren't 'subverted'. If anything they were exceeded. I didn't expect that the most enjoyment I'd get out of Remake would be speculating over what comes next. I don't know what shock you're talking about. They've been setting up this storyline for years. From Advent Children to On The Way To A Smile.
I really don't get why SE decided to go with the stupid "killing destiny" stuff. No matter what they do from here on out, it will just drag the story down. They either: a. Get cold feet and let the story play out as in the original, making the whole thing with the time jannies and time traveling Sephy a complete waste of time. b. Change the story so everyone gets a happy ending, which would destroy the original intention with the story. c. Kill off different characters for cheap shock value. d. Go off in such a different direction that they couldn't even pretend it's a remake anymore. Out of all of these, I think option d. is the one that has the potential to be interesting. But what do you do with all the millions of players who believed all the marketing and the goddamn TITLE of the game and thought FF7 Remake would be the best way to experience FF7? The reason a lot of people wanted a remake in the first place was because the original PS1 game is kind of hard to get into for younger gamers. The overworld models look terrible, it has awkward controls, it's filled with bugs and has a subpar translation. While it holds up in some places, it has aged terribly in others. Well, TOO BAD! If you want to get what's going on in the story, you better buy the original and play through that. Oh and don't forget to watch Advent Children and play through Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus too. EDIT: Got further in the video and realized that Neo Kaiser has the exact same argument. I didn't expect that. Not after being told how wrong I am whenever I talk about the game anywhere.
That stupid "killing destiny stuff" is the reason it was nominated for Best Narrative at the Game Awards. Trust me, the jury at an award show knows more about storytelling than some random TH-camr.
This TH-camr doesn't even understand the OG story. So I don't think their complaints are valid. Regarding your concerns. You should go look at Crisis Core Reunion. They made it part of Remake without changing the story. That should tell you alot.
1:56:47 well… about that… nothing. Cause this devs are INCOMPETENT! And people making theories are STUPID! Because the devs will do whatever ass-pull they wish!
Time jannies and a yaoi relationship with Sephiroth. I read fan fiction in '99 that was better than the shit that Squeenix did. You put your Kingdom Hearts in my FF7!
@@Toasterstoasturface What can I say? Clearly no one in the company can fill in Hironobu Sakaguchi's shoes, he was the glue that held it all together 🤷♀️
@@true_gamer39 The Resident Evil Remake is honestly the only example of a videogame remake done right in my estimation. It did not detract at all from the tone, plot, and story of the original game while at the same time still managing to add to its lore with the Lisa Trevor subplot.
@@LordMalice6d9 Silent Hill? Shadow of the Colossus? We've had a few amazing examples yet Square still decides to hurt their fans intentionally. It's like they hate that we like their old work
The "fate" ghosts have to be some of the most profoundly stupid and inconsistent ideas I have ever seen, adding them to FF7 was one of the worst writing decisions in gaming history, they make the ME3 ending feel like Shakespeare. That's beside the meta angle suggesting they represent the fans and the game paints them as the villains, like WTF!? Even worse is the fact Squareenix mirroring Shinra lied and decieved the fans by cutting the game into three games and then falsely labeling the first game "remake" then spitting in the face of the fans who bought it...fuck that, not buying any more so-called "remakes" from Square again.
I was getting pissed off when these ghosts kept showing up.. so then I had to do some research.. found out the kingdom hearts clown was in charge.. oh..... well rip this remake.. Still havent beaten it. I'm not saying they had to follow the script page by page. But some of the bullshit they threw in is ridiculous. And it's only going to get worse.
Cloud in the cutscenes literally moves like a Kingdom Hearts character, in gameplay he feels like a grandma who can be knocked down with the slightest breeze. The cutscenes do not match the gameplay in the slightest yet in reality Kingdom Hearts styled insane combat would have been AMAZING for this game.
Final Fantasy, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 were the best games in the series. Final Fantasy Tactics also but it's more of a spin off. That was the golden era.
Don't forget the III and IV remakes for the Nintendo DS those were good. And TheaRhythm I love me some TheaRhythm. But yeah the series ended once X came out as far as I'm concerned.
@@NeoKaiser0I replayed og and I'm mad. But not at remake. Ff7 was a complete story. CC and AC changed Aerith, Cloud and Zack so much it's a different game. Especially if you play japanese og....
34:00 I'll say this about the dance scene... although it was a fun, flashy addition to the game and i did enjoy it. It makes no sense for Clouds character to even be capable of doing such a thing. Cloud was always the socially awkward, shy kid growing up, few friends, little skills or abilities. He failed at actually becoming a real member of SOLDIER, Cloud was only a trooper. Besides, sense when did soldier start training their recruits dance moves??? 47:00 gotta disagree with you here. Turks, while powerful in their own right. Would NEVER stand a chance against a super charged member of SOLDIER, which is what Cloud essentially is.
@@Molotov_Milkshake he's socially awkward, wants to seem cool, all the rest of the game, but got a choreographed dance routine ready? come on lol was nice looking but felt so out of character, not they care about that, cloud, aerith, sephiroth and red all acting out of character because its a meta narrative..... nomura n nojima strike again!! with a wet floppy hammer that is!! lol honestly they cant get any more washed up to flop what should've been a easy win
........ ........... .......... Final Fantasy 7 was my Favoret game growing up, and just seeing all of this breaks my heart so much. I haven't played the remake because I didn't have the money to buy the game. After seeing this, and listening. I feel the same Emotions I had when I watched Aerith get stabbed by Sephiroth. I cried at that scene growing up yes. The only good thing I can see is I did not buy the remake even when I did ask for it. All I wanted was everything the same, but a HD version, and not box hands. Wow. Just Wow. This breaks me so much in side. I am so glad I still have the old game. This is why Cherishing the past is more important then ever.
Unlike most people. I don't give money to people who made bad choices. Company's don't care if the game is bad once they have your money. Wished I owned a company so people can give me money even if people don't like the product. in 2024 its great to be a company gullible people make you rich. @@micenabled9418
You should have known better the second you saw the square-enix logo. Squaresoft is the one who made the excellent games; square-Enix is the one who made the ok or worse games.
@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine just from this I know you're a retarded zoomer, 32bit graphics are 31 years old this October, keep being a good little paypig jewgolem and eating all that pretty slop.
@@Xeakerr a good production team isn't just a single person making all decisions. Even the man himself Sakaguchi has stated he was never the end-all be-all when it came to making the games. honestly I kind of doubt Nomura had much say in the direction. He didn't even know he was directing it until Square announced it, and he isn't the director of part 2. Unless they announced it the second it got greenlit, they probably had already been in pre production and had these ideas. Plus Kitase, being the producer, was spearheading remake since the beginning. Nomura probably got outvoted. But now Nomura has stepped back to focus on his own stuff after remake, leaving it to his co-director. and rebirth still has the same shenanigans, so it wasn't all him. This part is pure speculation, but I kinda feel they only put him as director to cover for the co-director, as this was his first game in that position, being only a programmer since 12 and being the project lead on Mobius FF, which wasn't very good, even by the low standard set by mobile games.
@@Xeakerr Nomura is a CREATIVE DIRECTOR. He is not in charge of the WRITING. So, no. The msot nomura does is give direction on how the characters should look when doing activities because he's the creative director. Maybe Nojima can ask for his input on story events because the guy obviously doesn't want to just follow the script but rather hear what everyone and the pizza guy would like to see instead.
@@jase276 Well Google says: "The creative director's responsibility is to ensure that all game elements, including text, sound, and graphics, are coherent and provide the exact “feel” that the director desires. A creative director is generally in charge of making the game's characters, plot, and other elements. They oversee all creative aspects of a game - story, development, characters, mechanics, level design, tone,". Seems pretty big to me.
I hated what they did to Jesse.... a pointless romance. And its kind of gross to have all 3 of the main female protagonist to be in love with Cloud. Couldnt she just have been another competent member of the team?
46:43 Cloud's direct translation of him saying yarero would mean 'Let's do it' and not 'Press it'. I think it's more likely Cloud was trying to get taunt Reno into fighting him, or he was talking to his party saying 'Let's do it' as in 'Let's take him[Reno] down.' English localization really sucks, I honestly wish there was not English voices, just Japanese voices with translator teams working with the Japanese writer to develop better translations to this kind of stuff. Luckily you can fix the translations, but only by modding it first. There's a mod called 'FAITHFUL SUBS Intergrade - Near-Literal Japanese Translation' that can be found on Nexusmods if you ever want to replay it with actual direct translations while playing it in the original language.
Intergrade lol.. Our only hope now is that part 3 starts by telling us that parts 1 and Intergrade were dream sequences and Cloud wakes up back at the start. Between these and XV. I'm done.
I think the whole remake in the title is actually a red herring or a misdirection by Square and Nomura. The smoking gun is they revealed part II is "Final Fantasy 7: Rebirth" and not Remake part II. Final Fantasy 7: Remake is not actually a Remake but instead a compilation of FFVII sequel that just contains the word Remake in its title.
@@Molotov_Milkshake that's hyperbolic as fuck lol. It's art, subversion is a key aspect of art. Crying for lawsuits for false advertising in this case would be like calling for lawsuits for false advertising in MGS2 because everything pre-release told you it was gonna be a game staring Solid Snake again.
@@DoTheAstralPlane yes, you recognise hyperbole. Congratulations. Personally I just won't buy or play these games, and that's my way of not supporting it. Obviously a class action lawsuit is extreme rofl, but truthfully, FF7 Remake was absolutely falsely/misleadingly advertised and marketed. That much is true.
I treat it as a reference to one of the plot points which is to remake the timeline. I found it out of character that SE choose such a plain subtitle for what I originally though was a legit remake since they have a very nasty habit of over glamorizing subtitles for every other game. But now it kind of makes sense.
@@Ricewarrior01 The idea of 'remaking the timeline' and all this meta stuff and/or parallel dimensions bullshit is absolutely retarded. Worse than most fanfiction.
Ive always been surprised at how blatant the bait and switch was and yet they somehow still have mouth-breathing defenders that clap their palms at the sight of an HD cloud. Even worse, the ones that act like this is what all FF7 fans wanted back in the day. Not one person even considered the idea of whispers or whatever kingdom hearts bullshit they added. Gaming was simple back then. Good times.
Not buying the next parts myself. They've butchered this opportunity alongside my expectations. It really saddens me since the original was one of the first PS games i played. The experience was amazing and i consider it to be one of the best games. Maybe that's subjective, but I feel this does not stray to far from the target audience of this game. It's time to let this remake go and let it sink...
i had to pause the video when you said they brought back biggs i forgot that happened i had to pause... *deep breath* NOMURA, LET ONE PERSON DIE IN YOUR SCRIPT! STOP BRINGING BACK EVERYONE WHO HAD THEIR PART OF THE STORY, THEIR LIMELIGHT, AND A NECESSARY PART FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND MAKING ALL THAT FEEL WORTHLESS. i don't like chain of memories, but there is a line i really like, the first we hear in that game "????????: Along the road ahead lies something you need. However---in order to claim it you must lose something that is dear to you." "Donald: Huh?" sometimes we have to lose in order to gain, this is important in BASIC WRITING. it doesn't always have to result in a character dying. but in order to feel happy, we must first understand sadness. To lose, in order to gain.
Nomura is a terrible Writer like Kojima which I used to be a fan, they both need editors to tell them "NO! NO! bad nomura!" because when they are both unrestrained the always end up with a mess on their hands for the final product.
@@cabuya1697 i still think MGS3 has one of the best stories in a video game. while i think kojima's writing can be questionable, i can see people enjoying it for the rollercoaster that it is. nomura...well, nomura needs more than an editor.
@@dmas7749 I think so too but for me mgs3 was the last time kojima wrote something good, mgs4, mgsV and death stranding are the games that made me stop believing kojima was a good writer the truth is this guys can only bring up their true potential when they have limits and people telling them "no" and also talented team bringing to life their ideas but when they are left on their own things end bad.
Something that bothers me about Remake is Jessie. She went from having a small crush on Cloud that was barely noticeable to practically dry humping him and more or less *implying sexual favors in front of her co-workers.* Cloud displays zero interest in her regardless of your choices, calls her desperate, and tells her to get off of him. Even if you choose to accept her advances, his response is "No promises." And this is supposed to be cute instead of off-putting because... it's a woman coming onto the player self-insert. A male NPC pulling that on a female PC would have the game developers, writers, and company flayed alive on social media for being problematic.
Not really; you aren't supposed to take her seriously. Wedge pretty much directly says it to the player during the scene you visit Jessie's house; it's an act. Jessie is really insecure and her whole flirting is just distraction to build her confidence and/or avoid emotional stuff. I assume thats why they straight up change her background to an *actress*. I think the confusion is Cloud's the protag so we ust assume its the usual NPCS Wanna Jump the MC; but Cloud makes perfect sense precisely BECAUSE Jessie knows he's never actually going to try anything.
Final fantasy 9 convoluted? I like your video but 9 is definitely not convoluted lmao. Sounds like something an ff7 fanboy would say. Anyway, yes, the FF7 remake is garbage imo. Still can’t believe there are apologists for the episodic, anti-consumer shit.
@@JustinBorowski13 If I give the game a thorough look over I could probably find some legit criticisms for FF9 but I still think the game is good and worth playing. All I said was that the story was convoluted. Convoluted just means convoluted, it doesn't mean bad or good. But some people might be turned off by something being convoluted. At which point it's just taste.
i like ff8s draw and card system was broken lol, now you can speed the game up drawing not so bad, i can't defend the story at all 🤣but imo ff8 got the best sound track in gaming
I bought a ps4 just to play this game cause I loved the original... It was such a disappointment for me. Just played it once, never gonna play it again nor I'm interested in playing or buying the upcoming parts.
In all honesty, I don't think messing with when Sephiroth appears was a bad idea in and of itself. The first scene where Cloud bumps into him on the street probably would have been fine on its own, if a bit ham-fisted. The problem is that he just keeps popping up when he doesn't need to and there's no context given for him in the Midgar portion of the story.
@@TheAzulmagia It was a terrible idea. Sephiroth is a looming danger that you don't see but only hear about and see the aftermath of his destruction. And it works because Cloud and his team are literally nothing to him. Which makes the reveal hit so hard about who and what Cloud really is. Sephiroth constantly groping and being obsessed with Cloud the entire game, starting from the literally first chapter, completely ruins any mystique and build up around Sephiroth. Instead of being the literal best of the best cold-blooded killing machine, he's some yaoi fanboy of Cloud trying to molest him at any chance. And I hate how they keep having him smirk every time he's on the screen. They throw away his hate and rage after finding out what he is, it's as if he wants to destroy the planet on a whim instead of out of a bit of revenge. They kept spamming that Nilbelheim scene with him in the fire but they removed his scowl and replaced it with a smirk. Personally, that ruins his character.
Sorry this is so long, but I have a lot of thoughts on Final Fantasy VII. I also wanted to say that this is by far the best critique I’ve seen on this game. Anyway, I really tried to like this game. Like really tried. I love Final Fantasy. I’ve been a super-fan of Final Fantasy since VII first released and have played every mainline entry in the series as well as most of the spin-offs. I even enjoyed the XIII trilogy despite it’s many problems. Final Fantasy X is probably my favorite in the series immediately behind FFIX, and X-2 is still one of my favorites because of it’s battle mechanics so I’m definitely not averse to a sequel going in a different direction from the original. When this game was first announced I was totally fine with them potentially changing some of the things I probably loved about the original FFVII. I had decided to go into it with as open of a mind as possible. I thought XV had a lot of promise, it was just severely mismanaged. I assumed FFVII would be kind of like XV, except way too big of a cash cow for them to afford to screw it up. Plus the hard part had been finished 20 years prior. It had a solid base in the original game, all they needed to do was update it to modern standards. It seemed so hard to mess up, especially considering how willing most people would be to look past minor stuff due to the pure excitement of playing a remade Final Fantasy VII. I was fully willing to cut this game some slack since it was technically from 1997 despite the pretty new visuals. Then it came out. I played it at launch and didn’t even come close to halfway finishing it. I’d say I lasted about 5-8 hours before I dropped it. This had been my most anticipated game from the moment the trailer released at E3 2015 up until its launch so it really hurt that the game wasn’t clicking with me. I thought I was in the wrong for not liking it since every video title I saw was saying it was a masterpiece. I was ashamed of myself for not liking it since it seemed to be fine in everyone else’s eyes from the little I had seen of it. I don’t even remember where I quit or why specifically I quit, I just knew I didn’t like it. I finally decided to give it another try a couple weeks ago thinking I might enjoy it more because I’m in a better mindset than I was when it launched. The same thing happened with Sekiro. It didn’t click with me at first. I quit after an hour because it “wasn’t Dark Souls” and I dismissed it. I judged it way too harshly for what it wasn’t doing rather than appreciating what it actually did. Then I came back a year later and put over 100 hours into it and now consider it one of my favorite games of all-time. I was similarly optimistic about replaying the FFVII Remake right up until I actually began playing it. The first thing I noticed were the many forced walking sections/invisible walls and that instantly rubbed me the wrong way but I continued playing anyway. I made it past Aerith’s house, but I found myself quitting after every major story beat to play something else because I was so exhausted from how bloated every aspect of the game felt. I dreaded getting to Wall Market because that’s when the original game’s Midgar section always starts to drag for me, but it really wasn’t all that bad. I appreciated getting to do the Coliseum stuff to break up the pointless tedium even if it was way too easy. The moment I realized I was beginning to hate the game was in the sewers. There’s a point right before the water pumping mini-game where there are 3 consecutive cutscenes that serve literally zero purpose. The dialogue, animation, and even the battles there all felt so unnecessarily drawn out. Cloud gets put to sleep immediately in every battle that takes place during the latter half of the sewers. The cutscene where they raise the water level in the sewers and all three party members cross the newly-made path extremely slowly is excruciating to sit through. And then the water pump section is just as unnecessarily slow as the previous cutscene was. I feel like the instructions are purposely unclear to further draw the section out. It was unbearable. I quit out afterwards. It’s been about three days and I haven’t returned to the game to finish out the level yet and I’m okay with that. I may never come back honestly. The game is overall pretty good when it’s focusing on the combat, I like that all the weapons feel viable instead of becoming useless the instant you get a new one, and I really like that there are Materia focused on the real-time combat instead of just copying everything verbatim from the original. There are definitely positives to the game, most if not all of them involving combat. They’re just far outweighed by the negatives. I couldn’t tolerate the amount of bloat present in every aspect of the game outside of combat. I felt the same way I imagine high school teachers feel when an underperforming student hands in a paper that’s desperately stretched out to meet the 2-Page minimum. It was at that moment in the sewers that I began over-analyzing the previous 15 hours of the game I had experienced. I had ignored a lot of the game’s shortcomings so far in an attempt to enjoy the game, and I did genuinely enjoy it at times, but it was becoming clearer and clearer that they were stretching 4-5 hours of content into a game intended to be 10 times that length without adding much of anything to actually justify that length. Just pointless filler. There were so many cutscenes, mini-games, those blue arrows that allow you to very slowly traverse something, etc. that gave me that feeling early on in the game, but I ignored them the best I could and just kept playing. Eventually it became too much. Midgar was always my least favorite part of the original FFVII, so I thought that was the issue I was having and those negative feelings were something only I had experienced. That’s when I began to seek out other opinions on the game and it turns out I wasn’t alone. I am willing to give the sequel a try to see if the game clicks with me once the party leaves Midgar, but I’m not feeling very optimistic about it. As long as Square-Enix continues to stretch the original content so thin to milk it for all it’s worth I feel like I’m going to have the same problems with the game. If FFXVI is as good as it looks so far, I’m hoping it will have at least some influence on the development of the rest of the VII sequels and improves them in some way. I don’t know why we couldn’t have just had a 1:1 remake. I have some minor gripes with Demon’s Souls but overall it’s incredible. So was Shadow of the Colossus and the Spyro trilogy. This remake could have become the definitive way to experience the game in the same way the aforementioned remakes are, but instead it’s a bloated, boring, disappointing caricature of itself that should offend every fan of the original. Final Fantasy VII was so important to me growing up and it pains me to think that this is how an entire new generation of gamers are experiencing it. Square sure knows how to tarnish a game’s legacy. Fans deserve better. Final Fantasy VII deserves better. I would love to see FFVII-2 redeem this disastrous game but I’m not holding my breath.
1:16:05 idk if anyone told you but the 7 seconds thing is how long it takes sepiroth to drop from the sky and kill aerith. So I assume he was taunting cloud about of he quick enough to save aerith from her death.
I finished my playthrough after my bro bought the game for himself and led me the game for a week to beat it. After I gave it back to him I told him they completely changed the story and rug pulled us. Right after he heard that he gave up even playing the game and wanted to return the game to the store for a refund under false advertising. I didnt buy FF7R cus I was burned by SE over FF15 being released unfinished and the last act being rushed to all hell. Same trickery here with FF7R, all the BS is at the end.
I haven’t supported FF7 remake when I heard they gonna sell it episodically. The fact this remake or FFVII has separate social media pages outside of Square Enix is shocking they’re creating a cult for this garbage of a series. Nomura has destroyed FF he’s probably busy handling KH4. I’m glad this remake was a major flop!
Yeah. This isnt a Remake. Its either an AU Spinoff or a Sequel. This was falsely advertised. Thats that. And because of that i wont touch it. I like most of the general changes, other than the episodic stuff. But baiting people with the term 'Remake ' which is commonly used to refer to a faithful modern iteration of a game. This isn't faithful. The new fans it pulled in can have it. I think im done with final fantasy. and maybe with new games in general. Mainly just ranting but it bugs me. I was hopeful for Crisis Core Reunion. But i feel like i cant trust it after ff7 remake.
This new Cloud - Sepharoth relationship reminds me more of Squall and Siffer, which was, honestly, just pathetic. They really were just schoolyard rivals with a secret man crush on each other.
I wonder if they could I mean now that they've made the assets for these characters I wonder if they could sell us another game that's the new assets but the old story?
@Scoliosis To be fair I didn't dislike the extra c*** but I did kind of want to have an actual remake with all the modern technology involved and the modern graphics and music and voice acting. I don't hate the new game I was just surprised to get a stealth sequel
I'm a person who never had any nostalgia for the original and even I had to drop the remake halfway through. as someone who likes the Advent children movie and is a big enough nerd to understand the original story, i gotta say: Nomura butchered the story especially with the hindsight of rebirth being released
It's kinda simple in my view. We liked FF7 because of the story as a whole. Changing it will effect the story, plot, characters etc. In other words not the same world anymore.
@@ItsSVO Thx, not many people agrees with me. But I don't even think you can separate character and story. It's intertwined. Changing Cloud's journey, aka the story, changes Cloud himself, aka the character.
The dude that was basically mako poisoned for a few years, was basically a puppet, then found by tifa, then regained some memories and turned into zack sort of, is uncomfortable wearing womens clothing, and has been pretty cold the entire game... Nah bro he'd definitely dance cause some gay dude told him too.
@@Cerbskies It went from Aerith devising a silly, innocent plan in her silly, innocent way to dress Cloud up like a girl so they can trick the guards into letting him through and turned into a huge public gender affirming drag show to appease a man's sexual attraction to you. That made me uncomfortable and it was stupid. Is the Don into men now? How did he not know that this major event just took place in town? Cloud is already a local celebrity from fighting in the colosseum and scores of people just saw him get a makeover. Also the guard at the door seemed to know it was Cloud and yet still lets him in. It just makes no sense.
@@Cerbskies I don't know why some people still think this besides the terrible Og FF7 english translation and localization Cloud does not "think" he is his friend Zack. His mind got so messed up by the Mako experiments that his fractured psyche constructed and fictionalized version of himself where he was a SOLDIER 1st class and not the shy, introverted and insecure person that he really was.
Most of this would not be an issue if they labeled it reimagined. It was a very solid game, and would have been great in many more peoples' minds if it didn't deviate from the original
And it literally opens with Zack arriving at Midgar with an injured Cloud, to see the Avalanche crew (minus Cloud) dead amongst the aftermath of a 'tornado'. Honestly WTF is going on in this shitty game!? He 'saves' Aeris, then she dies in his arms and the game then cuts to Cloud's flashback of Nibelheim, with absolutely no mention of Kalm, or anything. It's fucking bizarre. So there's an alternate timeline where the gang all died just after Zack somehow survived. Somehow they all met up and were hanging out together before Cloud even arrived at Midgar. This shit is SO STUPID GODDAMNIT
@@0909Alz Legitimately, Kalm is not mentioned or seen at all until AFTER Cloud's flashback. I've seen every cut-scene in Rebirth, so I'm well past the intro (which was an absolute abomination, as I stated before). There's zero explanation as to where they are, or why they are in Kalm etc. The pacing is bizarre. It's like the game's story can only work for someone familiar with the original FF7 story, but it fucks everything up so badly that it completely alienates those people. Such a mess.
@@Molotov_Milkshake They cut several times to the party talking in Kalm during the flashback sequence, not to mention the comments they make during gameplay. It's pretty clear and obvious what is going on.
Oh yea those ghost things, horrible cringe, I can't stand the addition of these fate ghost, plus Barrett being killed, then revived by the ghost guys, absolutely a slap to the face of the fans, I'm low key over this remake, I'm just disappointed at this new take on the game, I wish they had stuck to the source material, I'll stick to the original, so so much better than...I don't know what this mess was, if they didn't want to stick to source material, just make something new, why take a shit on a Masterpiece
@@ItsSVO Probably didn't change the presentation itself, he just projected an illusion over it. Doesn't seem farfetched for him to be able to project an illusion like that, when that's excatly what Jenova does to change the battle scenery a while later.
@@GiubileiFernando But that’s Jenova’s ability not Sephiroth’s, so it doesn’t really make much sense to me. This is the issue I have with the writing in this game, things just happen and there’s no explanation to how or why. How does Sephiroth create a portal to the edge of creation? How does Aerith create a portal to fight fate itself? If I wrote things like this in my high school creative writing classes I’d be marked poorly for it but these people are being paid. It’s baffling.
My only criticism is how you said FF8 is crap. I realize 8 is frustrating to figure out. But, by about halfway through my first playthrough, I had no trouble with it. I feel 8 is much more replayable than 7. It's so easy to break the game early on (if you choose to do so). The graphics and presentation are much better than 7. There is really only one required mini game that I can think of (the train game early on). The card game is probably the funnest non required mini game ever.
FF7 Remake is like Disney Star Wars pretty much. Throw 100 questions and nonsensical plot twists in there, cover the fact that you have absolutely 0 clue about how your own story shall turn out with cool visuals and effects, dont care if you fuck over the most beloved characters personalities and go full shock the audience for the sake of shocking them mode which impresses maybe 8 year olds at best.
36:16 It is the World's decision for Cloud to sneak in. Sephiroth and Aerith are trying to change the memory (causality/time) of the planet to avoid their doomed future and Cloud is just a vehicle for that. The ghosts we've been seeing throughout the game are trying to stop Tetsuya Nomura from changing the story of Final Fantasy Vll.
This whole thing has "cynical cash grab" written all over it. "if you make the story bad enough, you can sell a book that explains it!" "if the new story is just a bowl of narrative spaghetti, each noodle can be developed into a $70 game, just like kingdom hearts!" It's sad.
2:26:00 I was telling my girlfriend this exact same thing (in regards to a different subject but still relating to how people geek over anything Japanese even if that particular thing is garbage).
If they would have done like what they did with resident evil it would have been fine or at least if they would have been honest and been like hey this isn't a remake this is like a new game
The characters in the game are re-making the events. That's why it's called Remake. Part 2 is called Rebirth because sephiroth will be reborn using the black materia.
@@Koustav_04 Part 2 is called Rebirth because it's a completely new story and the "remake" pretense is officially dead, you're coping if you think you're still getting a remake or even a rewrite here, this is a sequel trilogy that only occasionally references the original script.
"These characters don't know who Sephiroth is!" Well, Tifa _does_ know who Sephiroth is, but she does think he's long gone (admittedly, she likely doesn't know what happened to him, because she was stabbed by Sephiroth and had no idea how she recovered from it, and doesn't remember Cloud carrying her out of the reactor). Barret, Red XIII, and probably Aerith aren't supposed to know who he is yet, though. Aerith might have heard of him (she did mention she heard the name earlier in the game, and that's basically the most that Aerith or Barret would know about Sephiroth, obviously without Aerith having memories of the future or whatever). Tifa obviously met Sephiroth directly and is directly responsible for everything that went wrong with her life and why she joined Avalanche, so she naturally wouldn't have forgotten about him. Tifa didn't talk about Zack or indicate she knew much about him, but I think the implication is she still did at least vaguely remember him, but her focus would have been more on Sephiroth than Zack after the events of Nibelheim. To her, Zack is just a random SOLDIER who showed up with Sephiroth. Sephiroth, on the other hand, is the one who destroyed her home, murdered her father, and completely wiped out her entire way of life. That has a much bigger impact on her than Zack, but even then she still implies she remembers who Zack is during the lifestream scene. Back to the others... Admittedly, they did see Sephiroth kill President Shinra right in front of them and then fly off, and Aerith herself said there's a bigger enemy than Shinra. So the indication can kinda line up there. Also, all the scenes they got of the future, they had no idea what was happening exactly. They assumed that by "defeating destiny" they would help stop a bad future (Barret implied as such when he brought it up earlier). I got the implication they realized that was wrong when it clearly played right into Sephiroth's hands, and now they have to try and stop him again without the help of "destiny" to steer the correct course. Not that I'm defending any of it, mind you. I don't mind changes that make sense without some hamfisted timey-wimey shenanigans. I don't even mind Sephiroth being the final boss or showing up more often, but they definitely played him off WAY too much. I delayed playing FFVII Remake for years because I knew about the story. I finally played it earlier this year and it wound up being overall better than I expected, but I still hated the Whispers (despite knowing coming into this that they existed) and hating the fact that they turned a turn-based RPG into an action-based RPG, and even that I enjoyed more than I expected. I also hated some similar things that you brought up; such as AVALANCHE not actually blowing up the entire reactor and Shinra doing it themselves. I even read that supposedly Jesse was said (in an Ultimania of course) to have been kept out of an afterlife because of all the lives she took in the name of "saving the planet". So even the _planet_ didn't like what she was doing in their name. Which drives me nuts that they erased this darker aspect of AVALANCHE because it was supposed to be shown they were going to extreme methods to get results. Yes it was in character for Shinra to destroy the reactor to blame someone else, but like you said, that's something which happened much later in the story and the story was intended to build up to it. And just blowing up the pump won't do anything, it will only deactivate it for a few days at most. Blowing up the ENTIRE reactor like in the original makes way more sense. Overall I enjoyed it more than I expected, but its also because I got my disappointment with it not being a true remake right after it came out and it took me years to finally come around to playing it.
Thank you, Neo Kaiser. This "Remake" pissed me off because it's not a damn REMAKE. It's fan service for the folks who are new (i'm talking 2005+) to FFVII. It takes care of a few things that we remember from FFVII but so much has changed that I can't play it and enjoy a REMAKE.
Probably because barely anyone knew or knows how to say it properly. It's Tidus all over again. Some people say tee-dus, others say tie-dus. That isn't the point of this video anyways.
avalanche being a huge organization and infiltrating shinra takes so much away from Barret's character. There are so many more ways they could have skinned the cat on how they were able to infiltrate shinra.
I thought I was going crazy wondering why I couldn’t use the pinball machine to go underground. I spent 20 min walking around wondering what the fuck I was doing wrong.
The thumb downers are Kingdom Hearts kids. Makes sense that the Director made Kingdom Hearts, everything added to the FF7 story makes no sense and feels very Kingdom Hearts crossover story that exists only to expose fan service from disney and square enix.
I agree with your assessment of Nomura and how he's a shit writer and should stick to what he's good at. It's just disappointing Squeenix let him do this to FF7. The original FF7 had strong themes inspired by real life events, like the death of Sakaguchi's mother. Dealing with the grief of losing someone important to you, coming to terms with the finality and death, and through that experience seeing how life is connected (the Lifestream metaphor), letting go, moving on, and protecting the people close to you so life can go on. Epitomized by Aeris. Cloud was never Sephiroth's rival, Aeris was. She represents Life, because she understands the cycle of life and death and sacrificed herself to save the planet. Sephiroth would rather have everything die to keep himself alive. And even though Sephiroth kills Aeris, she still beat him and saved the planet, with the help of her friends. These are epic, timeless themes, that elevates the original FF7 above "just a video game" into the realm of an archetypical myth that resonated deeply in humanity's psyche. It makes it relatable to anyone of any age, and honestly great lessons for kids to get exposed to. by having future Sephiroth change the past, it literally destroys the central pillar the entire plot is built on (although i guess it's somewhat fits his character). but without that pillar the plate on top is just going to come crashing down... so yeah, i think we should view FF7 Remake as an isekai fanfic. it's questionable at this point if the episodes going forward can deliver anything above standard tropy slop at this plot. because without a solid theme it's just gonna be another cheesy character drama - a soap opera, with grade school rivalries, unnecessary horniness, and what have you.
I was so angry wen I reached that ending. All the joy I was having playing the game up to that point suddenly made me feel like a complete idiot. I'll not buy rebirth, I'll will not be scammed again.
Thank you for bringing up the sunlight issue in the slums under midgar. There is no reason why Dhinra would ever add lights to recreate sunlight for the slums. Not to mention you can obviously tell that the light rays are coming from the sides, not the top. It's just such a dumb thing to do.
Ooh I hope you didn't play Kingdom hearts 3. I played it for free on Xbox game pass but I refuse to buy the game and it wasn't so bad at first and then I got to the halfway mark and I'm like no this can't be the end half of the game is fighting the same f****** dude over and over and over again just slightly different variations I'm like you get like a handful of worlds and that's it like you know I expected there to be more being that this is going to be the third game in the long waited like there should have been like double the f****** world the amount of time they took making this s*** but I guess that's what these are when we say they were making these s**** they were making literal hot steaming piles of dog s***
I actually picked up KH3 at AUS PAX 2019 for 30 bucks AUD. But I never got around to installing it. The gameplay looked closer to KH2 and I don't really like that gameplay in KH2.
@@NeoKaiser0 well if you played it if you actually took two seconds out of your day and played it you'd realize it's far far far far far worse like if you didn't like Kingdom hearts 2 before you'll love it after 3. Personally I didn't mind 2 but the original does give you an actual legitimate challenge while playing so I don't think two really was the fact that you had those options I think it was just that it made you a little bit too overpowered that you could breeze through the gam
I mean seriously just play Kingdom hearts 3 and you will constantly be asking yourself no this can't be it no no and then the story is the same way it's like no this can't be the end of the game no no this can't be. Or at least I found myself saying that and then I'm like the answer was yes both times it's that bad
@@Koustav_04 enjoy ur time traveling, world merging, cloud just beat destinys ass at the same time while holding his own against sephroith the baddest MF on the planet 🌎....what u gonna do after that fight a snake 😂
Im just starting the video and maybe I will need to edit this comment multiple times as I go along. I also hated the changes remake project is introducing, it basically is turning the OG story into part of the compilation and sadly most of the compilation sucks balls, so I hate they are doing that and could not just let OG have its own remake to shine. 1- You mention how it seems weird that Shinra would blow up their own reactor, I kind of liked this part of the game, in the original we are shown that Jessie had little idea of what she was doing, she was very surprised that the explotion was so strong and even says she followed some instructions to make it. So for me the change in remake works, in OG it could also have been shinras doing, only we never find out. The core of the idea here is that aside from Barret, Avalanche are a lot of kids playing the terrorists and going in over their heads and paying with their lives at the end. 2- Yeah the plate drop scene seems at first great but then it is cheapen by everyone surviving and rebuilding? Can you really rebuild after a whole city fell from the sky on you? That is just stupid. Also hated the unispired lazy sidequests and the pacing was all off on those padding sections like sewers and train graveyard, I agree with you on most stuff. 3- “If I was a shitty developer I would have made the final boss fight be Sephiroth” lol I couldn’t agree more, you have a monster like Jenova in lore and they still felt the need to include some Kingdom Heart Heartless monster, it boggles the mind. 4- Damn they couldn’t kill secondary characters or even have blood in the game, do you really think they have the balls to kill Aerith? Even if they do they will find a way to let her live in another timeline or something. 5- Square Enix hates OG FF7, I couldn’t agree more if I tried, since Crisis Core back in the day, everything they do with the IP retcons and changes stuff from OG. CC has discount characters from FF7 all over, Genesis is discount Sephiroth, Holander is discount Hojo, there even is a discount Jenova project and cells. It seems to me Sakaguchi took the helm in OG and grounded all their crazy ideas and he is the reason OG happened like it did, and I think they resented their ideas being scrapped and toned down, to rub salt in the wound it was their best game of all time. As soon as Sakaguchi was out, they made it their goal to change FF7 and have OG be the outlier, that is why they didn’t want a remake they could not change and why they will never update the OG, they just hate it. 6- I agree with you, Sephiroth might become an ally but you are forgetting the real villain of this franchise according to these hacks, Genesis is the main bad guy and there will be some Cloud, Zack, Seph, Genesis action in there for all fan fiction enthusiasts to enjoy.
You literally nailed everything on the head. Especially the bit with Aerith. They hate that FF7 is their best FF, or at least the most popular because of someone who split from them. Every best part of FF7 that everyone remembers and loves came from Sakaguchi's input personally.
Cloud : "Sephiroth, what do you want?" Sephiroth: "...those remnants will join the lifestream and girdle the planet; choking it; corroding it. What I want, Cloud, is to sail the cosmos with this planet as my vessel." Advent Children
Cashed out of this video after he made it clear in the first 2 minutes that he only likes final fantasy 7 all the other entries are bad. There is absolutely nothing of value that could possibly be said in the next 2 hours just based on that. I’m cool on this one.
I’m so sorry this happened to you FF7 fans are toxic BTW avoid Final Fantasy Union community these guys have a toxic cult or follower base for FF7. I found out they don’t have PS5 and they didn’t even play that PS5 DLC exclusive FF7 remake Intergrade. So I don’t know why these guys are fans and they don’t support the game they flaunt about so much? Take about loving something you don’t support but bother people with it.
@@timmytimmymit5607 yeah I think it's just newer generation for the most part. They don't have respect for the original game. They don't have respect for people who have been waiting for a true remake longer than they have been alive. Final Fantasy VII remake honestly sucks because of what it could have been. So it's really a tale of two fan bases.
@@AmorFati777X I digress I hope you’re excited for FF16 we’re getting news on the next Thursday for *Final Fantasy XVI* , I love the series going back to its roots with medieval Europe, and the lore of Valisthea. And the protagonist Clive Rosfield is very cool!
@@timmytimmymit5607 not optimistic about anything square enix does. The last game that felt like an actual final Fantasy was final Fantasy x. That was 20 years ago. But I do hope that this game pans out.
@@AmorFati777X Well I have good news for you someone who worked on FFX is also working on FFXVI, if you liked games like The Last Remnant then this game is for you because it has some developers from that game. Kazuya Takahashi worked on FFX he’s also working on FFXVI or FF16.
0:44 Why are you listing Final Fantasy Games made by a company Post Hironobu Sakaguchi? That man was the artist who's art is now being imitated by his successors, but his successors are simply not him.
I have played FFVII at least once a year since its release and it impresses me every time. Its not my favourite story in games (its close) but overall I think it provides the best overall package. The remakes story however is remarkable in how much effort they put into making it terrible when all they had to do was just use the original script. No stakes, no self discovery, nothing to overcome and meaningless convolution. It takes some serious chops to write a good story when you mess with such powerful things as time, dreams and fate or its going to come off as nonsensical contrived garbage aka what we have here. Someone needs to give Nomura and whoever else was behind the writing a serious reality check and tell them no we are not doing that because its a shit idea but they wont cos hes in charge and hey its FF it will sell regardless although its prominence has been eroded considerably over the years and with good reason.
Jessi got smashed by N64 graphic steel beams thanks to numerous texture streaming issues the game has....... there was no emotional impact other than laughter....
Episode one was truly poor. Not surprised. No talent left for writng anymore it seems. Why on earth did they not stay faithful to the original. it was perfect
Oh there's talent, but they put Nomura in charge, so everything has to be TIME TRAVEL SPACE TIME GHOSTS MULTIVERSE WANK WANK
@@Molotov_Milkshake Nomura wanted it to be a 1:1 faithful remake. It was Nojima, the WRITER, who wanted all this meta bs. It's no coincidence that the same writer for the last handful of KH games is the same writer responsible for this "remake" trilogy. Nomura was forced on this project.
Sephiroth has become Pyramid Head. Always ending up in places he doesn't belong. I waited since 06 for this remake and the flying scrotum goblins always made me question wtf was going on in the trailers and while playing. It wasn't until I made it to the final stage that I realized this isn't a remake, a reboot or even a remaining. It's a sequel that they expect every new player to be on board with and not confused whatsoever that only a Kingdom Hearts veteran could be prepared for. Cyberpunk wasn't the game that made me question Sony's refund policy, this game was. Unfortunately you'd only find out the b.s 39 hours in so only a GOG policy could have saved my money.
Then they turn around and make the game that most fans wanted into a mobile gacha game. I can't see it as anything but spiteful after seeing the meta reason of the Whispers existence.
They sure did push the big red button for this game but ofc it was pressed with a monkey's paw because why not. All those FF7 Remake fan projects getting cease and desists for this smh.
If they were upfront about these changes in a way that didn't spoil things, I 100% would have been on board. I suffered through every part of the FF7 Compilation after all so I think I could put up with almost everything. "Changes for a modern audience" doesn't cut it.
How do you really feel though?
as a KH veteran i am not happy with most of the things Nomura does
i will never forgive him for DDD, never ever. the lack of stakes in his works aggravate me to no end since it feels like he can just retcon anything. but hey, if you throw everything at the wall, you might have a couple of moments that are actually decent
Good point. Adding shit instead of making the game better and more fun is always a bad idea. First make it fun to last, after which you can multiply and dilute it as much as you want as that genuine fan factor will carry it. If it is fun to play, people will not care how cheap and crappy it is in other quality aspects. To me, FF7 R looks like more work and less fun. No thanks.
What was this game that most fans wanted, that ended up as a gacha game?
It's just stupid cuz now, its not gonna be a good remake, and it's a terrible sequel because its gonna retread 90% of the same plot as the first story in the series.
Unless they're planning on making a part 4 and 5 that fully delve into the concepts of the sequel, while using parts 1-3 to supplement those concepts while retelling the the original story. But even that would still feel dumb. 3 setup games to get to the real story of the sequel. Or 3 games that are neither good remake nor good sequel.
8 was a solid game. They tried something new with gameplay, and I can appreciate it. I actually like the junction system.
I loved 8. I think 7 is my favorite, then 8.
8 would be an even better game if they ditched the draw system and had combat similar to 7. It blew my mind that 8 didn't have any armor or accessories.
8 punishes you for using magic and for leveling up/killing enemies.
Yeah 8 wasn’t bad either good story.
The junction system was definitely a cool IDEA, the implementation was downright broken. There isn't an easier FF because of it, but there also isn't a more back to front FF either, it genuinely made the game bonkers which kind of suited it. Hell, I don't mind one FF game being completely broken, it can be fun. Towing the line isn't always the most fun.
I hated it, but genuinely appreciate them trying it. I hope they continue to try and be creative. I don’t care if it’s not for me.
@@upon-fe2720 the main issue with the Junction System isn't the system itself, its how FF8 does no effort of gatekeeping the best stuff until later, and how easy it is to get endgame builds on disc 1, and how Level Scaling also completely backfired in FF8. play FF8 Ragnarok Mod, and you will be faced with a game that actually fights back, and leveling is no longer a cardinal sin.
One of the problems that the FF7 "Remake" had was that they wanted to do the same things Hideo Kojima did with Metal Gear Solid 2. So instead of a "Remake" we got a "Sequel". Not only that the people are using the excuse that the original game had 3 discs, the reason for that was each "Disc" was 700 MB so limited space. Now with the Final Fantasy 7 "Remake" taking place over 3 games, that's essentially Xenosaga all over again.
Oh so i is a trilogy? Is the second game going to be called FF7: Remake 2. Or with the X style naming: FF 7-R-2. R2-D2, I think I found a friend of yours. XD P.S. I guess the Remake demo is FF-7-R1-D1.
But with MGS2, the theme of misinformation was a meta theme from the beginning with its marketing and is thoroughly baked into the game's story itself.
@@aFutureSelf Facts. Kojima Actually played up with the themes of MGS2 SOL very well with the marketing. It wasn't a slap in the face of MGS1, just showing players what happens when you have high expectations for sequels. Where as Nomura clearly showed he was trying to change everything with the OG FF7 with FF7R, due to him clearly not liking OG FF7. Hence the slap at the face ending of them "changing destiny" by changing all the masterful story beats of the OG FF7.
Don't diss Xenosaga like that.
@@ihavenoson3384 More like a Pentology.
This 'game' is fooked.
It would take a lot of money to fix it. Corporations gonna corporations.
Maybe the PC modding community will fix it 30+ years.
If they were honest about what it was from the start, I don’t think anyone would mind.
it's insane how many fanboys insist they were honest and say you're stupid for not knowing it wasn't a remake when it has remake in the frigging title and everyone 'fell for it'
@@WorthlessWinnerppl like that should just be ignored, because anyone with common sense can tell, off the rip, how delusional they are.
@@Luca-bel - I agree. I just got half a dozen people reply to my comments on the original upload of this, calling me an idiot for not knowing from pre-release interviews and stuff that this wasn't a remake. Like, who watches all those interviews xD
@@WorthlessWinner lol I feel where you’re coming from. The average buyer won’t go through these interviews. I try to avoid spoilers whenever possible after the initial trailer, so I sure as hell wouldn’t.
I would have minded, if they want to tell their own story then don't drape the dead skin of a beloved IP over themselves while they tell it, make their own game. If they want to remake FF7 then respect the game, the creators and the fanbase and make a faithful adaptation with that in mind.
I still prefer the original Final Fantasy VII
That means you are a real gamer, we need more gamers like you then maybe this industry can get back on track, because there ain't no getting off this train
@@livetorek4723 Just don't buy AAA games. Plenty of great indie games out there that are keeping it real.
You say this like anyone would prefer this abortion....sorry, I mean 'rebortion'.
@@livetorek4723I enjoy the original too. And people will say “it’s nostalgia” except it isn’t. I haven’t played the game. I was playing it along side Remake and Rebirth. Granted that took a lot of stopping on the originals part given all the padding. Damn…. I was shocked how quickly I got from the first reactor to the second in the original. Soooo much padding. Now I’m just going through the original to finish the story. And I love the moral ambiguity of the characters in the original. They are too “good” in the remakes.
I think most people who played the original do. Tourists are gonna be tourists. They prefer an action game to turn based RPG combat.
I just don't know why they couldn't also do a real full on remake too.
Remastered you mean?
@@formanga8871no, a conventional remake akin to resident evils. Same story and atmosphere but retold with voice acting and better graphics and gameplay. Fixes to the issues in the original game and slight expansion where necessary.
@@formanga8871 Remake, as in remake all the assets entirely. Not polish up the originals.
There's some crappy mobile gacha game that has blocky 3d models and is supposed to include all the story from all the final fantasy stuff that exists so far - I imagine someone lost a fight in a boardroom and the "faithful recreation" got sidelined into a mobile game and eventually got weighed down with garbage, and that's what ever crisis is.
@@bingbongwahoo-ov1ip Ever Crisis could have been great, but they turned it into a piece of shit mobile game.
20:44 To answer your question, Aerith has always been her name in Japanese. The only reason why her name was Aeris, is because of translation errors.
I seriously hate how that makes her name sound like a lisp. "Thith ith Aerith." I always said her name the same way they say it now (as opposed to saying it like Ares the Greek god of war), but with an S instead of the lisp sounding TH.
Thank goodness for the original mistake. 'Aeris' is a far better name.
@@ListlessDawn Is 'Elizabeth' a lisp as well?
This was all done to try and rope in and appease 20 year old kids, that are into hack and slash rubbish whenever they aren't playing Call of Duty cause ''Turn based is old fashioned M8'' despite 80% of the purist fan base actually disagreeing is it FECK old fashioned. The state of FF16 as well.
I personally think this entire game was made purely to appease Nomura's delusional ego. It's not for fans of the original, and it's certainly not for newcomers.
7:28 "Originally you didn't get a real hint at Sephiroth until the Shin-Ra building, never seeing him in person until the ship, before then it was just a flashback and his sword. Sephiroth is really possible now, so they would show him before his debut."
There's an interview with Tetsuya Nomura where he talks about the decision to put Sephiroth in so early. He describes that his decision to do so was done very whimsically, and I get the impression that Tetsuya would rather not be working on this remake at all.
Seems Nomura would rather work on his convoluted shitshows like KH & Verum Rex, than one of the most influential JRPG’s in gaming.
It’s pure hubris.
Judging from Rufus’ redesign, you can tell Square had to bar Nomura from shoving 12+ leather belts up everyone’s ass.
@@Anayoth Nomura must be in his 40s. He's too old to make edgy boi Rufus. smh.
He is a fool. Square Enix has very little in talent. They are no Capcom, no Fromsoft and they are certainly no Larian.
No. It Was done vecaus everyone knews who sephiroth is so why hide him plus they knew it Was multiple parts
@@indedgames4359 I’ve played the original and I can tell you that Nomura is a fucking conceited hack.
Ptolemy made a video laying out Square’s history, and how little role he has in said company.
Nomura never wanted to make this game, he clearly wanted to work on his own projects- like Verum Rex, KH, and Versus XIII.
Sakaguchi was the real genius behind FFVII. Kitase was only the director, so fuck him for trying to change the story.
Not to mention, Squaresoft and Squeenix aren’t the same company- whoever made the OG great either lost that magic, or was fired.
my favorite part of this game was when cloud and barrett had trouble opening a metal door in the Shinra Tower, and literally 20 minutes later Cloud is slicing through ENTIRE BUILDINGS with his sword.
this game is a mess.
My fave game though, 7 being my favourite. Shame you couldn't find enjoyment out of it. Truly breaks my heart that there is the minority that dislike the game, they put so much love into it. Genuinely had me in tears multiple times, felt like the game was made for me, at that moment in time. A truly magical gaming experience for me that I don't think can ever be replicated. All final fantasy's play fast and loose with suspension of belief, it's not The Sopranos. The fact is, the characters are beautifully acted and realised, the locations are beautifully remade and the story turns into a sequel towards the end. I can't love it more. So many surprises, the combat is so much fun and I've had the joy of spending a year both theory crafting and theory delving. It's been a highlight of my gaming life, and I'll be 40 soon.
@@upon-fe2720 cringe inducing response
Yes, the lack of realism is bad in this game... They even wear their weapons on the train which is weird that the people on the train is not scared of them especially that they are wanted from shinra. Also when they infiltrated the Shinra building there were no people inside I was like WTF. Voice Acting was bad also especially the Dialogue... The only saving grace in this game was the Graphics, Music, and gameplay.... its the thing that I still scored it 8/10
Also Barret's unlimited Bullets 🤣 Not during the gameplay ofcourse that one is understandable but during cutscenes Barrets has like unlimited bullets.
@@neilbertmillar9960
I agree. I bought the game couple month ago,Just happend to play a few chapter recently, I laugh so hard with how not make sense the game logic. I don't like how the female character act, It''s overboard like anime girl with camera focus too much on their face. Very annoy dialogue. From fanboi og ff7 very disappoint.
Would they've just sticked to the OG as close as possible without all the changes in story and atmosphere, without that filler content, new extras and sidequests, it would have been a masterpiece and probably would have been released in one piece already. Would have been a great game for completely new players and old fans alike. How could they screw this up?
The task of making a one-to-one port of the original game with current-gen technical possibilities seems to be much easier than what they've actually done to this game now.
No it would have ended up terrible. Everyone knowing everything, every secret, every quest, every order of locations...Every game breaking materia combination...people would just have complained about nothing being added.
@@arphayas2826 New players wouldn't complain, since they don't know anything about the game. Old fans of the OG are buying the remake exactly because they don't wanted to see any major changes to the main story. Simple as that.
@@unepicgamer4260
Not as simple as that. Played the original before Remake was even announced in the first place, replaying it rn while waiting for Rebirth. There is no value in playing a HD high end graphics game 25 Years later you know all about. Except for nostalgia ofc that is. If this was just the original with Remakes looks we would run through some mostly empty hallway/filler maps to the next location (Remember Sector 6 Slums or the Pathways in the glacier?). The Devs even use this to follow visions and implement content they would have wanted in the OG but couldnt implement back at the time.
@@arphayas2826 The expression ''as close as possible'' leaves room for minor changes and sidequests. Telling the backstory of characters like Biggs, Jessie and Wegde for instance, is a good idea.
Splitting the ''remake'' into three parts and completely changing the main story, however, is a slap in the face for us old fans and as close as it get's to what one could call false advertising.
@@unepicgamer4260 Yet still it was stated the result of the Remake Trilogy will be the Events of the Movie so I still think it will end up pretty similar in its core. Ofc we have the ghosts n stuff but you know what I mean
Ty for this never get tired of hearing these complaints as they echo my concerns 100%
F*** your concerns. Don't bother playing future parts.
@@Koustav_04 lol, seethe.
@@antiquark6253 you're the one seething 😆
@@Koustav_04 You're the one replying to every comment and you have the gall to say you're not seething, lol, lmao.
@@r.henryjr.1533 😂😂😂 Acquire a fraction of my skills, then babble 🤡
All we wanted was a Resident Evil 1 style remake. Give us redrawn, high-res, gorgeously animated pre-rendered backgrounds with high quality character models and then go all out on the graphics in the turn-based combat. It was so simple but they still found a way to 'SquareEnix' all over it.
Also, I love that TH-cam puts a panel to buy or rent Advent Children along side this. I actually liked AC. The complete version is way better.
"We"? Why does every VII fan think they speak on behalf of all fans?
I wanted something as bold & ambitious as FF7 Remake. You don't speak for all fans.
@@HopeIsFleeting Because they’re stupid and entitled that’s why. The trashiest fan base you’ll find are the FF7 fan base.
@@HopeIsFleeting Im just guessing here but... because they remade every other FF game 1 through 6, remastered 8 and 10 (can't remember if they did 9), so why would anyone expect them to do differently with 7? Subverting expectations for the sake of it doesn't make something good or interesting unless it's backed up with meaningful context or depth of metaphor, or some type of foreshadowing or layered detail. When something is done solely for shock value it lacks almost any inherent value beyond the shock.
@@Scoliosis The only Final Fantasy games they've remade are 1 (kind of) and 7. The rest are remasters. Strangers of Paradise is also very different to FFI so you're literally arguing against your point.
My expectations weren't 'subverted'. If anything they were exceeded. I didn't expect that the most enjoyment I'd get out of Remake would be speculating over what comes next.
I don't know what shock you're talking about. They've been setting up this storyline for years. From Advent Children to On The Way To A Smile.
I really don't get why SE decided to go with the stupid "killing destiny" stuff. No matter what they do from here on out, it will just drag the story down. They either:
a. Get cold feet and let the story play out as in the original, making the whole thing with the time jannies and time traveling Sephy a complete waste of time.
b. Change the story so everyone gets a happy ending, which would destroy the original intention with the story.
c. Kill off different characters for cheap shock value.
d. Go off in such a different direction that they couldn't even pretend it's a remake anymore.
Out of all of these, I think option d. is the one that has the potential to be interesting. But what do you do with all the millions of players who believed all the marketing and the goddamn TITLE of the game and thought FF7 Remake would be the best way to experience FF7? The reason a lot of people wanted a remake in the first place was because the original PS1 game is kind of hard to get into for younger gamers. The overworld models look terrible, it has awkward controls, it's filled with bugs and has a subpar translation. While it holds up in some places, it has aged terribly in others. Well, TOO BAD! If you want to get what's going on in the story, you better buy the original and play through that. Oh and don't forget to watch Advent Children and play through Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus too.
EDIT: Got further in the video and realized that Neo Kaiser has the exact same argument. I didn't expect that. Not after being told how wrong I am whenever I talk about the game anywhere.
That stupid "killing destiny stuff" is the reason it was nominated for Best Narrative at the Game Awards. Trust me, the jury at an award show knows more about storytelling than some random TH-camr.
This TH-camr doesn't even understand the OG story. So I don't think their complaints are valid.
Regarding your concerns. You should go look at Crisis Core Reunion. They made it part of Remake without changing the story. That should tell you alot.
They being doing it since FF13. It's the same plot again with a FF7 skin
Looks like they're going with option b. No one dies, there's no character development, and everyone gets happy ending because disney.
@@Koustav_04 appeal to authority
1:56:47 well… about that… nothing.
Cause this devs are INCOMPETENT! And people making theories are STUPID! Because the devs will do whatever ass-pull they wish!
That being said… a lot of the commentary here was nothing short of… I’m going to be canceled.
Time jannies and a yaoi relationship with Sephiroth. I read fan fiction in '99 that was better than the shit that Squeenix did.
You put your Kingdom Hearts in my FF7!
Wow. Such an original thought. I'm sure no one has said this before.
Hey, real quick, go look up who all wrote FF7 OG for me 😏
whewwww agreed entirely. wanted an FF7 remake. instead got FF7 Hearts 5: Advent Children.
big ol woof.
Overreactors.
And I know how yaoi fanfics are. Not even close.
@@Toasterstoasturface What can I say? Clearly no one in the company can fill in Hironobu Sakaguchi's shoes, he was the glue that held it all together 🤷♀️
A perfect remake of a game would be the Resident Evil Remake. If FF7 Remake just did something like that then it would have been 11/10.
If square did that it would have sold 30 million copies
Millions bailed when they heard about the time travel
@@true_gamer39 The Resident Evil Remake is honestly the only example of a videogame remake done right in my estimation. It did not detract at all from the tone, plot, and story of the original game while at the same time still managing to add to its lore with the Lisa Trevor subplot.
@@LordMalice6d9 Silent Hill? Shadow of the Colossus? We've had a few amazing examples yet Square still decides to hurt their fans intentionally. It's like they hate that we like their old work
@SaintJames14 I have not played the Silent Hill or Shadow of The Collosus remakes yet, so I can not form a informed opinion on them yet.
The "fate" ghosts have to be some of the most profoundly stupid and inconsistent ideas I have ever seen, adding them to FF7 was one of the worst writing decisions in gaming history, they make the ME3 ending feel like Shakespeare.
That's beside the meta angle suggesting they represent the fans and the game paints them as the villains, like WTF!?
Even worse is the fact Squareenix mirroring Shinra lied and decieved the fans by cutting the game into three games and then falsely labeling the first game "remake" then spitting in the face of the fans who bought it...fuck that, not buying any more so-called "remakes" from Square again.
I was getting pissed off when these ghosts kept showing up.. so then I had to do some research.. found out the kingdom hearts clown was in charge.. oh..... well rip this remake..
Still havent beaten it. I'm not saying they had to follow the script page by page. But some of the bullshit they threw in is ridiculous. And it's only going to get worse.
Kingdom Farts 🤣
Squirt Anus
Final Fantasy is dead. Now it’s a Devil May Cry / God of War hybrid with chocobos. Square should change their name to Shinra Corp.
Fk Square Enix and FF7 Reboot is trash, FF16 is gonna be another hot garbage too
Cloud in the cutscenes literally moves like a Kingdom Hearts character, in gameplay he feels like a grandma who can be knocked down with the slightest breeze. The cutscenes do not match the gameplay in the slightest yet in reality Kingdom Hearts styled insane combat would have been AMAZING for this game.
Final Fantasy, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, and 10 were the best games in the series. Final Fantasy Tactics also but it's more of a spin off. That was the golden era.
Don't forget the III and IV remakes for the Nintendo DS those were good. And TheaRhythm I love me some TheaRhythm. But yeah the series ended once X came out as far as I'm concerned.
It’s time to start making new video for Rebirth.
I don't even own a PS5 lol
I'm just gonna read up on what happens on wikipedia, laugh, then go back to my business.
@@NeoKaiser0 OH YOU HAVE TO! THis new Rebirth is convoluted asf
@@doctorfresh3856 I read the plot on wikipedia. I just rolled my eyes. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too.
@@NeoKaiser0I replayed og and I'm mad. But not at remake. Ff7 was a complete story. CC and AC changed Aerith, Cloud and Zack so much it's a different game. Especially if you play japanese og....
@@NeoKaiser0 broh, don't u dig on multiverses? 🤣
34:00 I'll say this about the dance scene... although it was a fun, flashy addition to the game and i did enjoy it. It makes no sense for Clouds character to even be capable of doing such a thing. Cloud was always the socially awkward, shy kid growing up, few friends, little skills or abilities. He failed at actually becoming a real member of SOLDIER, Cloud was only a trooper. Besides, sense when did soldier start training their recruits dance moves???
47:00 gotta disagree with you here. Turks, while powerful in their own right. Would NEVER stand a chance against a super charged member of SOLDIER, which is what Cloud essentially is.
agreed, he's a introvert whos not exactly socal even tifa says it in the "remake"
He can do 10 foot flip jumps. Pretty sure he can manage a dance.
He can't jump over a 7 foot gate though.
@@Molotov_Milkshake physical ability and actual skill/talent are not the same thing lol
@@Molotov_Milkshake he's socially awkward, wants to seem cool, all the rest of the game, but got a choreographed dance routine ready? come on lol
was nice looking but felt so out of character, not they care about that, cloud, aerith, sephiroth and red all acting out of character because its a meta narrative..... nomura n nojima strike again!! with a wet floppy hammer that is!! lol
honestly they cant get any more washed up to flop what should've been a easy win
@@dbfzato-1327 yep, totally. It makes no sense. But that's everything in this awful goddamn game xD Nomura is legitimately delusional.
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Final Fantasy 7 was my Favoret game growing up, and just seeing all of this breaks my heart so much. I haven't played the remake because I didn't have the money to buy the game. After seeing this, and listening. I feel the same Emotions I had when I watched Aerith get stabbed by Sephiroth. I cried at that scene growing up yes. The only good thing I can see is I did not buy the remake even when I did ask for it. All I wanted was everything the same, but a HD version, and not box hands. Wow. Just Wow. This breaks me so much in side. I am so glad I still have the old game. This is why Cherishing the past is more important then ever.
Get the game for yourself and play it...there's things i didnt like about it and things i did like.
Unlike most people. I don't give money to people who made bad choices. Company's don't care if the game is bad once they have your money. Wished I owned a company so people can give me money even if people don't like the product. in 2024 its great to be a company gullible people make you rich. @@micenabled9418
@@micenabled9418 pirate it, you mean. Fuck supporting this project.
You should have known better the second you saw the square-enix logo. Squaresoft is the one who made the excellent games; square-Enix is the one who made the ok or worse games.
You're suffering from a serious case of "stuck in the past". Get of your nostalgia cope, and move forward with your life, bud.
@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine you don't have to defend your desire to eat corporate shit to me buddy, it's your money.
@@aclevername7973 Okay man. Enjoy your 8-bit graphics and cringe dialogue.
@TheWorldsOkayestUSMarine just from this I know you're a retarded zoomer, 32bit graphics are 31 years old this October, keep being a good little paypig jewgolem and eating all that pretty slop.
All I wanted was a 1:1 Remake.
I guess it was too much to ask for ... Thanks Nomura.
He's on record stating that's what he wanted too. But Kitase, the OG director, and Nojima, the OG lead scenario writer, wanted the changes.
@@unnamed_protagonist But is he not in charge?
@@Xeakerr a good production team isn't just a single person making all decisions. Even the man himself Sakaguchi has stated he was never the end-all be-all when it came to making the games. honestly I kind of doubt Nomura had much say in the direction. He didn't even know he was directing it until Square announced it, and he isn't the director of part 2. Unless they announced it the second it got greenlit, they probably had already been in pre production and had these ideas. Plus Kitase, being the producer, was spearheading remake since the beginning. Nomura probably got outvoted. But now Nomura has stepped back to focus on his own stuff after remake, leaving it to his co-director. and rebirth still has the same shenanigans, so it wasn't all him.
This part is pure speculation, but I kinda feel they only put him as director to cover for the co-director, as this was his first game in that position, being only a programmer since 12 and being the project lead on Mobius FF, which wasn't very good, even by the low standard set by mobile games.
@@Xeakerr Nomura is a CREATIVE DIRECTOR. He is not in charge of the WRITING. So, no. The msot nomura does is give direction on how the characters should look when doing activities because he's the creative director. Maybe Nojima can ask for his input on story events because the guy obviously doesn't want to just follow the script but rather hear what everyone and the pizza guy would like to see instead.
@@jase276 Well Google says:
"The creative director's responsibility is to ensure that all game elements, including text, sound, and graphics, are coherent and provide the exact “feel” that the director desires. A creative director is generally in charge of making the game's characters, plot, and other elements. They oversee all creative aspects of a game - story, development, characters, mechanics, level design, tone,".
Seems pretty big to me.
I hated what they did to Jesse.... a pointless romance. And its kind of gross to have all 3 of the main female protagonist to be in love with Cloud. Couldnt she just have been another competent member of the team?
Have you not seen an Isekai Harem anime. The most popular anime currently in Japan. No wonder
@@NoxLegend1 no but what's that got to do with anything?
It's what you just described hence the relevance@@1stKindChris
You clearly have never been around 304s or thots
46:43 Cloud's direct translation of him saying yarero would mean 'Let's do it' and not 'Press it'. I think it's more likely Cloud was trying to get taunt Reno into fighting him, or he was talking to his party saying 'Let's do it' as in 'Let's take him[Reno] down.' English localization really sucks, I honestly wish there was not English voices, just Japanese voices with translator teams working with the Japanese writer to develop better translations to this kind of stuff.
Luckily you can fix the translations, but only by modding it first. There's a mod called 'FAITHFUL SUBS Intergrade - Near-Literal Japanese Translation' that can be found on Nexusmods if you ever want to replay it with actual direct translations while playing it in the original language.
Intergrade lol.. Our only hope now is that part 3 starts by telling us that parts 1 and Intergrade were dream sequences and Cloud wakes up back at the start. Between these and XV. I'm done.
I think the whole remake in the title is actually a red herring or a misdirection by Square and Nomura. The smoking gun is they revealed part II is "Final Fantasy 7: Rebirth" and not Remake part II.
Final Fantasy 7: Remake is not actually a Remake but instead a compilation of FFVII sequel that just contains the word Remake in its title.
We need a class action lawsuit against SE for misleading and false advertising.
@@Molotov_Milkshake that's hyperbolic as fuck lol. It's art, subversion is a key aspect of art. Crying for lawsuits for false advertising in this case would be like calling for lawsuits for false advertising in MGS2 because everything pre-release told you it was gonna be a game staring Solid Snake again.
@@DoTheAstralPlane yes, you recognise hyperbole. Congratulations. Personally I just won't buy or play these games, and that's my way of not supporting it. Obviously a class action lawsuit is extreme rofl, but truthfully, FF7 Remake was absolutely falsely/misleadingly advertised and marketed. That much is true.
I treat it as a reference to one of the plot points which is to remake the timeline.
I found it out of character that SE choose such a plain subtitle for what I originally though was a legit remake since they have a very nasty habit of over glamorizing subtitles for every other game. But now it kind of makes sense.
@@Ricewarrior01 The idea of 'remaking the timeline' and all this meta stuff and/or parallel dimensions bullshit is absolutely retarded. Worse than most fanfiction.
Ive always been surprised at how blatant the bait and switch was and yet they somehow still have mouth-breathing defenders that clap their palms at the sight of an HD cloud.
Even worse, the ones that act like this is what all FF7 fans wanted back in the day. Not one person even considered the idea of whispers or whatever kingdom hearts bullshit they added. Gaming was simple back then. Good times.
Not buying the next parts myself. They've butchered this opportunity alongside my expectations. It really saddens me since the original was one of the first PS games i played. The experience was amazing and i consider it to be one of the best games. Maybe that's subjective, but I feel this does not stray to far from the target audience of this game.
It's time to let this remake go and let it sink...
i had to pause the video when you said they brought back biggs
i forgot that happened
i had to pause... *deep breath*
NOMURA, LET ONE PERSON DIE IN YOUR SCRIPT! STOP BRINGING BACK EVERYONE WHO HAD THEIR PART OF THE STORY, THEIR LIMELIGHT, AND A NECESSARY PART FOR SOMEONE ELSE TO MOVE FORWARD, AND MAKING ALL THAT FEEL WORTHLESS.
i don't like chain of memories, but there is a line i really like, the first we hear in that game
"????????: Along the road ahead lies something you need. However---in order to claim it you must lose something that is dear
to you."
"Donald: Huh?"
sometimes we have to lose in order to gain, this is important in BASIC WRITING. it doesn't always have to result in a character dying. but in order to feel happy, we must first understand sadness. To lose, in order to gain.
Nomura is a terrible Writer like Kojima which I used to be a fan, they both need editors to tell them "NO! NO! bad nomura!" because when they are both unrestrained the always end up with a mess on their hands for the final product.
@@cabuya1697 i still think MGS3 has one of the best stories in a video game. while i think kojima's writing can be questionable, i can see people enjoying it for the rollercoaster that it is. nomura...well, nomura needs more than an editor.
@@dmas7749 I think so too but for me mgs3 was the last time kojima wrote something good, mgs4, mgsV and death stranding are the games that made me stop believing kojima was a good writer the truth is this guys can only bring up their true potential when they have limits and people telling them "no" and also talented team bringing to life their ideas but when they are left on their own things end bad.
It wasn't Nomura. It was Nojima. You know, the WRITER of the entire project?
Something that bothers me about Remake is Jessie. She went from having a small crush on Cloud that was barely noticeable to practically dry humping him and more or less *implying sexual favors in front of her co-workers.* Cloud displays zero interest in her regardless of your choices, calls her desperate, and tells her to get off of him. Even if you choose to accept her advances, his response is "No promises." And this is supposed to be cute instead of off-putting because... it's a woman coming onto the player self-insert. A male NPC pulling that on a female PC would have the game developers, writers, and company flayed alive on social media for being problematic.
Not really; you aren't supposed to take her seriously. Wedge pretty much directly says it to the player during the scene you visit Jessie's house; it's an act. Jessie is really insecure and her whole flirting is just distraction to build her confidence and/or avoid emotional stuff. I assume thats why they straight up change her background to an *actress*. I think the confusion is Cloud's the protag so we ust assume its the usual NPCS Wanna Jump the MC; but Cloud makes perfect sense precisely BECAUSE Jessie knows he's never actually going to try anything.
This game is full of annoying f*%#king hallways.
Final fantasy 9 convoluted? I like your video but 9 is definitely not convoluted lmao. Sounds like something an ff7 fanboy would say.
Anyway, yes, the FF7 remake is garbage imo. Still can’t believe there are apologists for the episodic, anti-consumer shit.
**can't think of any legit criticism of ff9**
Uhhhh, it's convoluted!!!
@@JustinBorowski13 yeah fr, i agree with the whole video except for what he said about 8, 9 and 10. Stuff started to become shit after 10.
@@JustinBorowski13 If I give the game a thorough look over I could probably find some legit criticisms for FF9 but I still think the game is good and worth playing. All I said was that the story was convoluted.
Convoluted just means convoluted, it doesn't mean bad or good. But some people might be turned off by something being convoluted. At which point it's just taste.
@@NeoKaiser0 I agree, FF9 can be a bit difficult to understand, maybe that's why ppl don't understand Necron, but none the less my favorite. :D
FF7 was also convoluted, so was FF8. Storytelling was a lot better in FF9 IMO than 7 or 8.
We wanted a remake. Not a sequel.
Also, I agree FF8 sucks.
I wanted a good game & now I want my 2 hours 33 minutes back.
@@Koustav_04 yeah you can sure judge books by their covers historically
i like ff8s draw and card system was broken lol, now you can speed the game up drawing not so bad, i can't defend the story at all 🤣but imo ff8 got the best sound track in gaming
I bought a ps4 just to play this game cause I loved the original... It was such a disappointment for me. Just played it once, never gonna play it again nor I'm interested in playing or buying the upcoming parts.
The remake changed a lot of the story to the point where it was unrecognizable to make it better fit with Crisis Core and Advent Children
I love how this video was a better remake of the original than FF7R was.
Hahaha well put. Agreed wholeheartedly.
Man I felt you on the sephiroth appearing early. Just made the rest of the game feel less motivating to get through.
In all honesty, I don't think messing with when Sephiroth appears was a bad idea in and of itself. The first scene where Cloud bumps into him on the street probably would have been fine on its own, if a bit ham-fisted. The problem is that he just keeps popping up when he doesn't need to and there's no context given for him in the Midgar portion of the story.
@@TheAzulmagia It was a terrible idea. Sephiroth is a looming danger that you don't see but only hear about and see the aftermath of his destruction. And it works because Cloud and his team are literally nothing to him. Which makes the reveal hit so hard about who and what Cloud really is. Sephiroth constantly groping and being obsessed with Cloud the entire game, starting from the literally first chapter, completely ruins any mystique and build up around Sephiroth. Instead of being the literal best of the best cold-blooded killing machine, he's some yaoi fanboy of Cloud trying to molest him at any chance.
And I hate how they keep having him smirk every time he's on the screen. They throw away his hate and rage after finding out what he is, it's as if he wants to destroy the planet on a whim instead of out of a bit of revenge. They kept spamming that Nilbelheim scene with him in the fire but they removed his scowl and replaced it with a smirk. Personally, that ruins his character.
1:00:28 from what I remember. G isn't Genesis. G is Gillian. Aka Angeal's Mother.
Sorry this is so long, but I have a lot of thoughts on Final Fantasy VII. I also wanted to say that this is by far the best critique I’ve seen on this game.
Anyway, I really tried to like this game. Like really tried. I love Final Fantasy. I’ve been a super-fan of Final Fantasy since VII first released and have played every mainline entry in the series as well as most of the spin-offs. I even enjoyed the XIII trilogy despite it’s many problems. Final Fantasy X is probably my favorite in the series immediately behind FFIX, and X-2 is still one of my favorites because of it’s battle mechanics so I’m definitely not averse to a sequel going in a different direction from the original. When this game was first announced I was totally fine with them potentially changing some of the things I probably loved about the original FFVII. I had decided to go into it with as open of a mind as possible. I thought XV had a lot of promise, it was just severely mismanaged. I assumed FFVII would be kind of like XV, except way too big of a cash cow for them to afford to screw it up. Plus the hard part had been finished 20 years prior. It had a solid base in the original game, all they needed to do was update it to modern standards. It seemed so hard to mess up, especially considering how willing most people would be to look past minor stuff due to the pure excitement of playing a remade Final Fantasy VII. I was fully willing to cut this game some slack since it was technically from 1997 despite the pretty new visuals.
Then it came out. I played it at launch and didn’t even come close to halfway finishing it. I’d say I lasted about 5-8 hours before I dropped it. This had been my most anticipated game from the moment the trailer released at E3 2015 up until its launch so it really hurt that the game wasn’t clicking with me. I thought I was in the wrong for not liking it since every video title I saw was saying it was a masterpiece. I was ashamed of myself for not liking it since it seemed to be fine in everyone else’s eyes from the little I had seen of it. I don’t even remember where I quit or why specifically I quit, I just knew I didn’t like it. I finally decided to give it another try a couple weeks ago thinking I might enjoy it more because I’m in a better mindset than I was when it launched. The same thing happened with Sekiro. It didn’t click with me at first. I quit after an hour because it “wasn’t Dark Souls” and I dismissed it. I judged it way too harshly for what it wasn’t doing rather than appreciating what it actually did. Then I came back a year later and put over 100 hours into it and now consider it one of my favorite games of all-time.
I was similarly optimistic about replaying the FFVII Remake right up until I actually began playing it. The first thing I noticed were the many forced walking sections/invisible walls and that instantly rubbed me the wrong way but I continued playing anyway. I made it past Aerith’s house, but I found myself quitting after every major story beat to play something else because I was so exhausted from how bloated every aspect of the game felt. I dreaded getting to Wall Market because that’s when the original game’s Midgar section always starts to drag for me, but it really wasn’t all that bad. I appreciated getting to do the Coliseum stuff to break up the pointless tedium even if it was way too easy. The moment I realized I was beginning to hate the game was in the sewers. There’s a point right before the water pumping mini-game where there are 3 consecutive cutscenes that serve literally zero purpose. The dialogue, animation, and even the battles there all felt so unnecessarily drawn out. Cloud gets put to sleep immediately in every battle that takes place during the latter half of the sewers. The cutscene where they raise the water level in the sewers and all three party members cross the newly-made path extremely slowly is excruciating to sit through. And then the water pump section is just as unnecessarily slow as the previous cutscene was. I feel like the instructions are purposely unclear to further draw the section out. It was unbearable.
I quit out afterwards. It’s been about three days and I haven’t returned to the game to finish out the level yet and I’m okay with that. I may never come back honestly. The game is overall pretty good when it’s focusing on the combat, I like that all the weapons feel viable instead of becoming useless the instant you get a new one, and I really like that there are Materia focused on the real-time combat instead of just copying everything verbatim from the original. There are definitely positives to the game, most if not all of them involving combat. They’re just far outweighed by the negatives. I couldn’t tolerate the amount of bloat present in every aspect of the game outside of combat. I felt the same way I imagine high school teachers feel when an underperforming student hands in a paper that’s desperately stretched out to meet the 2-Page minimum. It was at that moment in the sewers that I began over-analyzing the previous 15 hours of the game I had experienced. I had ignored a lot of the game’s shortcomings so far in an attempt to enjoy the game, and I did genuinely enjoy it at times, but it was becoming clearer and clearer that they were stretching 4-5 hours of content into a game intended to be 10 times that length without adding much of anything to actually justify that length. Just pointless filler. There were so many cutscenes, mini-games, those blue arrows that allow you to very slowly traverse something, etc. that gave me that feeling early on in the game, but I ignored them the best I could and just kept playing. Eventually it became too much.
Midgar was always my least favorite part of the original FFVII, so I thought that was the issue I was having and those negative feelings were something only I had experienced. That’s when I began to seek out other opinions on the game and it turns out I wasn’t alone. I am willing to give the sequel a try to see if the game clicks with me once the party leaves Midgar, but I’m not feeling very optimistic about it. As long as Square-Enix continues to stretch the original content so thin to milk it for all it’s worth I feel like I’m going to have the same problems with the game. If FFXVI is as good as it looks so far, I’m hoping it will have at least some influence on the development of the rest of the VII sequels and improves them in some way.
I don’t know why we couldn’t have just had a 1:1 remake. I have some minor gripes with Demon’s Souls but overall it’s incredible. So was Shadow of the Colossus and the Spyro trilogy. This remake could have become the definitive way to experience the game in the same way the aforementioned remakes are, but instead it’s a bloated, boring, disappointing caricature of itself that should offend every fan of the original. Final Fantasy VII was so important to me growing up and it pains me to think that this is how an entire new generation of gamers are experiencing it. Square sure knows how to tarnish a game’s legacy. Fans deserve better. Final Fantasy VII deserves better. I would love to see FFVII-2 redeem this disastrous game but I’m not holding my breath.
Funny how the abridged is much more faithful then the "remake" 🤣
1:16:05 idk if anyone told you but the 7 seconds thing is how long it takes sepiroth to drop from the sky and kill aerith. So I assume he was taunting cloud about of he quick enough to save aerith from her death.
I finished my playthrough after my bro bought the game for himself and led me the game for a week to beat it. After I gave it back to him I told him they completely changed the story and rug pulled us. Right after he heard that he gave up even playing the game and wanted to return the game to the store for a refund under false advertising. I didnt buy FF7R cus I was burned by SE over FF15 being released unfinished and the last act being rushed to all hell. Same trickery here with FF7R, all the BS is at the end.
Good. Now forget that this franchise exists.
I haven’t supported FF7 remake when I heard they gonna sell it episodically. The fact this remake or FFVII has separate social media pages outside of Square Enix is shocking they’re creating a cult for this garbage of a series. Nomura has destroyed FF he’s probably busy handling KH4. I’m glad this remake was a major flop!
@@Koustav_04 you missed a couple comments that don't agree with you. Quick! The franchise's destiny depends on your dickriding!
Yeah. This isnt a Remake. Its either an AU Spinoff or a Sequel. This was falsely advertised. Thats that. And because of that i wont touch it. I like most of the general changes, other than the episodic stuff. But baiting people with the term 'Remake ' which is commonly used to refer to a faithful modern iteration of a game. This isn't faithful. The new fans it pulled in can have it. I think im done with final fantasy. and maybe with new games in general. Mainly just ranting but it bugs me. I was hopeful for Crisis Core Reunion. But i feel like i cant trust it after ff7 remake.
@@timmytimmymit5607 flop lmao
Rebirth is even worse. Oh my God, I regret buying it so much.
This new Cloud - Sepharoth relationship reminds me more of Squall and Siffer, which was, honestly, just pathetic. They really were just schoolyard rivals with a secret man crush on each other.
I wonder if they could I mean now that they've made the assets for these characters I wonder if they could sell us another game that's the new assets but the old story?
Nah they will drop it on pc and the modding community will make a game the fans actually want
F*** the fans. I want the fans to just f*** off & not play GOTY worthy FF game.
@@donguffey2203 really hoping for modders to come together and make a real remake without all the extra crap this game has added to it
@Scoliosis To be fair I didn't dislike the extra c*** but I did kind of want to have an actual remake with all the modern technology involved and the modern graphics and music and voice acting. I don't hate the new game I was just surprised to get a stealth sequel
I'm a person who never had any nostalgia for the original and even I had to drop the remake halfway through. as someone who likes the Advent children movie and is a big enough nerd to understand the original story, i gotta say: Nomura butchered the story especially with the hindsight of rebirth being released
Man. Saying FF9 is convoluted. You legit should get tested youll probably qualify for government payments.
It's kinda simple in my view. We liked FF7 because of the story as a whole. Changing it will effect the story, plot, characters etc. In other words not the same world anymore.
Bingo. The people who enjoyed remake of thought it was great are either in denial, compilation fans or simply fans of characters and not story.
@@ItsSVO Thx, not many people agrees with me. But I don't even think you can separate character and story. It's intertwined. Changing Cloud's journey, aka the story, changes Cloud himself, aka the character.
It's even simpler. FF7's story had atmosphere and depth. In short, it was good. The new story in FF7R doesn't understand that and is bad.
@@jase276 I have not played it, nor will I, but I take your word for it. :)
Cloud breaks out an epic dance....
The loner introvert who doesn't show any signs of social skills..... Checks out!
That can happen! 🥃
The dude that was basically mako poisoned for a few years, was basically a puppet, then found by tifa, then regained some memories and turned into zack sort of, is uncomfortable wearing womens clothing, and has been pretty cold the entire game...
Nah bro he'd definitely dance cause some gay dude told him too.
@@Cerbskies It went from Aerith devising a silly, innocent plan in her silly, innocent way to dress Cloud up like a girl so they can trick the guards into letting him through and turned into a huge public gender affirming drag show to appease a man's sexual attraction to you. That made me uncomfortable and it was stupid. Is the Don into men now? How did he not know that this major event just took place in town? Cloud is already a local celebrity from fighting in the colosseum and scores of people just saw him get a makeover. Also the guard at the door seemed to know it was Cloud and yet still lets him in. It just makes no sense.
Hey! I'm a loner introvert, but I can throw down the floss like nobody's business.
@@Cerbskies I don't know why some people still think this besides the terrible Og FF7 english translation and localization
Cloud does not "think" he is his friend Zack. His mind got so messed up by the Mako experiments that his fractured psyche constructed and fictionalized version of himself where he was a SOLDIER 1st class and not the shy, introverted and insecure person that he really was.
Most of this would not be an issue if they labeled it reimagined. It was a very solid game, and would have been great in many more peoples' minds if it didn't deviate from the original
Now. Rebirth is out. What a fucking waste of an Intellectual Property.
And it literally opens with Zack arriving at Midgar with an injured Cloud, to see the Avalanche crew (minus Cloud) dead amongst the aftermath of a 'tornado'. Honestly WTF is going on in this shitty game!? He 'saves' Aeris, then she dies in his arms and the game then cuts to Cloud's flashback of Nibelheim, with absolutely no mention of Kalm, or anything. It's fucking bizarre. So there's an alternate timeline where the gang all died just after Zack somehow survived. Somehow they all met up and were hanging out together before Cloud even arrived at Midgar. This shit is SO STUPID GODDAMNIT
@@Molotov_Milkshake Maybe go past the intro of a 40 hour game? Lol at the "no mention of Kalm" though, that says a lot.
We alreadt knew it would be trash.
@@0909Alz Legitimately, Kalm is not mentioned or seen at all until AFTER Cloud's flashback. I've seen every cut-scene in Rebirth, so I'm well past the intro (which was an absolute abomination, as I stated before). There's zero explanation as to where they are, or why they are in Kalm etc. The pacing is bizarre.
It's like the game's story can only work for someone familiar with the original FF7 story, but it fucks everything up so badly that it completely alienates those people. Such a mess.
@@Molotov_Milkshake They cut several times to the party talking in Kalm during the flashback sequence, not to mention the comments they make during gameplay.
It's pretty clear and obvious what is going on.
So easy not to fuck up a remake, unbelievable
Oh yea those ghost things, horrible cringe, I can't stand the addition of these fate ghost, plus Barrett being killed, then revived by the ghost guys, absolutely a slap to the face of the fans, I'm low key over this remake, I'm just disappointed at this new take on the game, I wish they had stuck to the source material, I'll stick to the original, so so much better than...I don't know what this mess was, if they didn't want to stick to source material, just make something new, why take a shit on a Masterpiece
57:00 dude I've never seen someone misunderstand this scene like this. Sephiroth was hijacking the presentation, it wasn't made by Shinra
True. But then, how did sephiroth hijack a virtual presentation? I’m sure you’ll have a reasonable answer.
@@ItsSVO Probably didn't change the presentation itself, he just projected an illusion over it. Doesn't seem farfetched for him to be able to project an illusion like that, when that's excatly what Jenova does to change the battle scenery a while later.
@@GiubileiFernando But that’s Jenova’s ability not Sephiroth’s, so it doesn’t really make much sense to me. This is the issue I have with the writing in this game, things just happen and there’s no explanation to how or why. How does Sephiroth create a portal to the edge of creation? How does Aerith create a portal to fight fate itself? If I wrote things like this in my high school creative writing classes I’d be marked poorly for it but these people are being paid. It’s baffling.
Damn, what a gem of a channel. New subscriber.
My only criticism is how you said FF8 is crap.
I realize 8 is frustrating to figure out. But, by about halfway through my first playthrough, I had no trouble with it.
I feel 8 is much more replayable than 7. It's so easy to break the game early on (if you choose to do so).
The graphics and presentation are much better than 7. There is really only one required mini game that I can think of (the train game early on). The card game is probably the funnest non required mini game ever.
I hate what they did to FF7. I absolutely hate it!
To Sum it up... TERRIBLE WRITING!!! I could've came up with a better FFVII story than this.
FF7 Remake is like Disney Star Wars pretty much. Throw 100 questions and nonsensical plot twists in there, cover the fact that you have absolutely 0 clue about how your own story shall turn out with cool visuals and effects, dont care if you fuck over the most beloved characters personalities and go full shock the audience for the sake of shocking them mode which impresses maybe 8 year olds at best.
36:16 It is the World's decision for Cloud to sneak in. Sephiroth and Aerith are trying to change the memory (causality/time) of the planet to avoid their doomed future and Cloud is just a vehicle for that. The ghosts we've been seeing throughout the game are trying to stop Tetsuya Nomura from changing the story of Final Fantasy Vll.
In a nutshell, the game is fkin trash
Ff7 og is my fav game of all time ff7 remake is my least favorite game of all time let that sink in
Tiffa? TEA FAH
This whole thing has "cynical cash grab" written all over it.
"if you make the story bad enough, you can sell a book that explains it!"
"if the new story is just a bowl of narrative spaghetti, each noodle can be developed into a $70 game, just like kingdom hearts!"
It's sad.
2:26:00 I was telling my girlfriend this exact same thing (in regards to a different subject but still relating to how people geek over anything Japanese even if that particular thing is garbage).
If they would have done like what they did with resident evil it would have been fine or at least if they would have been honest and been like hey this isn't a remake this is like a new game
The characters in the game are re-making the events. That's why it's called Remake.
Part 2 is called Rebirth because sephiroth will be reborn using the black materia.
@@Koustav_04 Part 2 is called Rebirth because it's a completely new story and the "remake" pretense is officially dead, you're coping if you think you're still getting a remake or even a rewrite here, this is a sequel trilogy that only occasionally references the original script.
I never played the original, the last 3-4h of this game had me completely lost. It went from interesting to incomprehensible garbage.
I'm fairly certain her name is "Aerith" Instead of "Aeris" because her name is supposed to be a near closest anagram of the word "earth"
Is it? Cool I did not know that, but make sense. :)
It is. It was a mistranslation from the English team. Now I'm not sure where he's pulling that tiiif ahhh out of.
@@eggdogtim8593it is not a mistranslation as both Aeris and Aerith can be translated from her Japanese name. And the anagram has next to no backing.
"These characters don't know who Sephiroth is!"
Well, Tifa _does_ know who Sephiroth is, but she does think he's long gone (admittedly, she likely doesn't know what happened to him, because she was stabbed by Sephiroth and had no idea how she recovered from it, and doesn't remember Cloud carrying her out of the reactor). Barret, Red XIII, and probably Aerith aren't supposed to know who he is yet, though. Aerith might have heard of him (she did mention she heard the name earlier in the game, and that's basically the most that Aerith or Barret would know about Sephiroth, obviously without Aerith having memories of the future or whatever).
Tifa obviously met Sephiroth directly and is directly responsible for everything that went wrong with her life and why she joined Avalanche, so she naturally wouldn't have forgotten about him. Tifa didn't talk about Zack or indicate she knew much about him, but I think the implication is she still did at least vaguely remember him, but her focus would have been more on Sephiroth than Zack after the events of Nibelheim. To her, Zack is just a random SOLDIER who showed up with Sephiroth. Sephiroth, on the other hand, is the one who destroyed her home, murdered her father, and completely wiped out her entire way of life. That has a much bigger impact on her than Zack, but even then she still implies she remembers who Zack is during the lifestream scene.
Back to the others... Admittedly, they did see Sephiroth kill President Shinra right in front of them and then fly off, and Aerith herself said there's a bigger enemy than Shinra. So the indication can kinda line up there. Also, all the scenes they got of the future, they had no idea what was happening exactly. They assumed that by "defeating destiny" they would help stop a bad future (Barret implied as such when he brought it up earlier). I got the implication they realized that was wrong when it clearly played right into Sephiroth's hands, and now they have to try and stop him again without the help of "destiny" to steer the correct course.
Not that I'm defending any of it, mind you. I don't mind changes that make sense without some hamfisted timey-wimey shenanigans. I don't even mind Sephiroth being the final boss or showing up more often, but they definitely played him off WAY too much.
I delayed playing FFVII Remake for years because I knew about the story. I finally played it earlier this year and it wound up being overall better than I expected, but I still hated the Whispers (despite knowing coming into this that they existed) and hating the fact that they turned a turn-based RPG into an action-based RPG, and even that I enjoyed more than I expected. I also hated some similar things that you brought up; such as AVALANCHE not actually blowing up the entire reactor and Shinra doing it themselves.
I even read that supposedly Jesse was said (in an Ultimania of course) to have been kept out of an afterlife because of all the lives she took in the name of "saving the planet". So even the _planet_ didn't like what she was doing in their name. Which drives me nuts that they erased this darker aspect of AVALANCHE because it was supposed to be shown they were going to extreme methods to get results. Yes it was in character for Shinra to destroy the reactor to blame someone else, but like you said, that's something which happened much later in the story and the story was intended to build up to it. And just blowing up the pump won't do anything, it will only deactivate it for a few days at most. Blowing up the ENTIRE reactor like in the original makes way more sense.
Overall I enjoyed it more than I expected, but its also because I got my disappointment with it not being a true remake right after it came out and it took me years to finally come around to playing it.
Thank you, Neo Kaiser. This "Remake" pissed me off because it's not a damn REMAKE. It's fan service for the folks who are new (i'm talking 2005+) to FFVII. It takes care of a few things that we remember from FFVII but so much has changed that I can't play it and enjoy a REMAKE.
I agree with you 100%. I wish it stays more the same myself.
how does a dude who is such a big fan of FF7 still not know how to say mako
or Aerith for that matter
@@mehdigeekI was about to comment about this. He literally makes a point that they misspelled her name and then continuously calls her Aries.
@@MVimah I watched more of it and he doesn't know how to say Tifa either
Probably because barely anyone knew or knows how to say it properly. It's Tidus all over again. Some people say tee-dus, others say tie-dus. That isn't the point of this video anyways.
@@supersnow17 but this video came out after Remake, a game in which they say mako and Aerith over and over and over
avalanche being a huge organization and infiltrating shinra takes so much away from Barret's character. There are so many more ways they could have skinned the cat on how they were able to infiltrate shinra.
I thought I was going crazy wondering why I couldn’t use the pinball machine to go underground. I spent 20 min walking around wondering what the fuck I was doing wrong.
Tetsuya Nomura is the Zack Snyder of gaming
Nomura is such a hack
The second half of this video gave me chills. Great work bro
The thumb downers are Kingdom Hearts kids. Makes sense that the Director made Kingdom Hearts, everything added to the FF7 story makes no sense and feels very Kingdom Hearts crossover story that exists only to expose fan service from disney and square enix.
I agree with your assessment of Nomura and how he's a shit writer and should stick to what he's good at. It's just disappointing Squeenix let him do this to FF7. The original FF7 had strong themes inspired by real life events, like the death of Sakaguchi's mother. Dealing with the grief of losing someone important to you, coming to terms with the finality and death, and through that experience seeing how life is connected (the Lifestream metaphor), letting go, moving on, and protecting the people close to you so life can go on. Epitomized by Aeris. Cloud was never Sephiroth's rival, Aeris was. She represents Life, because she understands the cycle of life and death and sacrificed herself to save the planet. Sephiroth would rather have everything die to keep himself alive. And even though Sephiroth kills Aeris, she still beat him and saved the planet, with the help of her friends. These are epic, timeless themes, that elevates the original FF7 above "just a video game" into the realm of an archetypical myth that resonated deeply in humanity's psyche. It makes it relatable to anyone of any age, and honestly great lessons for kids to get exposed to. by having future Sephiroth change the past, it literally destroys the central pillar the entire plot is built on (although i guess it's somewhat fits his character). but without that pillar the plate on top is just going to come crashing down... so yeah, i think we should view FF7 Remake as an isekai fanfic. it's questionable at this point if the episodes going forward can deliver anything above standard tropy slop at this plot. because without a solid theme it's just gonna be another cheesy character drama - a soap opera, with grade school rivalries, unnecessary horniness, and what have you.
I was so angry wen I reached that ending. All the joy I was having playing the game up to that point suddenly made me feel like a complete idiot. I'll not buy rebirth, I'll will not be scammed again.
Thank you for bringing up the sunlight issue in the slums under midgar. There is no reason why Dhinra would ever add lights to recreate sunlight for the slums. Not to mention you can obviously tell that the light rays are coming from the sides, not the top. It's just such a dumb thing to do.
Ooh I hope you didn't play Kingdom hearts 3. I played it for free on Xbox game pass but I refuse to buy the game and it wasn't so bad at first and then I got to the halfway mark and I'm like no this can't be the end half of the game is fighting the same f****** dude over and over and over again just slightly different variations I'm like you get like a handful of worlds and that's it like you know I expected there to be more being that this is going to be the third game in the long waited like there should have been like double the f****** world the amount of time they took making this s*** but I guess that's what these are when we say they were making these s**** they were making literal hot steaming piles of dog s***
I actually picked up KH3 at AUS PAX 2019 for 30 bucks AUD. But I never got around to installing it. The gameplay looked closer to KH2 and I don't really like that gameplay in KH2.
@@NeoKaiser0 well if you played it if you actually took two seconds out of your day and played it you'd realize it's far far far far far worse like if you didn't like Kingdom hearts 2 before you'll love it after 3. Personally I didn't mind 2 but the original does give you an actual legitimate challenge while playing so I don't think two really was the fact that you had those options I think it was just that it made you a little bit too overpowered that you could breeze through the gam
I mean seriously just play Kingdom hearts 3 and you will constantly be asking yourself no this can't be it no no and then the story is the same way it's like no this can't be the end of the game no no this can't be. Or at least I found myself saying that and then I'm like the answer was yes both times it's that bad
@@NeoKaiser0 oh and the top it off if you think ffs 7 remake was bad story oh my God Kingdom hearts 3 says hold my beer
Brutal and accurate
There is nothing accurate about speculations of future events.
@@Koustav_04it is accurate the remake was and is a betrayal that hurt a lot of people
@@true_gamer39 I'll reserve my judgement till part 3
@@Koustav_04 enjoy ur time traveling, world merging, cloud just beat destinys ass at the same time while holding his own against sephroith the baddest MF on the planet 🌎....what u gonna do after that fight a snake 😂
@@true_gamer39 you too enjoy your cutscene and QTE simulator game that's a disgrace to gaming.
Im just starting the video and maybe I will need to edit this comment multiple times as I go along.
I also hated the changes remake project is introducing, it basically is turning the OG story into part of the compilation and sadly most of the compilation sucks balls, so I hate they are doing that and could not just let OG have its own remake to shine.
1- You mention how it seems weird that Shinra would blow up their own reactor, I kind of liked this part of the game, in the original we are shown that Jessie had little idea of what she was doing, she was very surprised that the explotion was so strong and even says she followed some instructions to make it. So for me the change in remake works, in OG it could also have been shinras doing, only we never find out. The core of the idea here is that aside from Barret, Avalanche are a lot of kids playing the terrorists and going in over their heads and paying with their lives at the end.
2- Yeah the plate drop scene seems at first great but then it is cheapen by everyone surviving and rebuilding? Can you really rebuild after a whole city fell from the sky on you? That is just stupid. Also hated the unispired lazy sidequests and the pacing was all off on those padding sections like sewers and train graveyard, I agree with you on most stuff.
3- “If I was a shitty developer I would have made the final boss fight be Sephiroth” lol I couldn’t agree more, you have a monster like Jenova in lore and they still felt the need to include some Kingdom Heart Heartless monster, it boggles the mind.
4- Damn they couldn’t kill secondary characters or even have blood in the game, do you really think they have the balls to kill Aerith? Even if they do they will find a way to let her live in another timeline or something.
5- Square Enix hates OG FF7, I couldn’t agree more if I tried, since Crisis Core back in the day, everything they do with the IP retcons and changes stuff from OG. CC has discount characters from FF7 all over, Genesis is discount Sephiroth, Holander is discount Hojo, there even is a discount Jenova project and cells. It seems to me Sakaguchi took the helm in OG and grounded all their crazy ideas and he is the reason OG happened like it did, and I think they resented their ideas being scrapped and toned down, to rub salt in the wound it was their best game of all time. As soon as Sakaguchi was out, they made it their goal to change FF7 and have OG be the outlier, that is why they didn’t want a remake they could not change and why they will never update the OG, they just hate it.
6- I agree with you, Sephiroth might become an ally but you are forgetting the real villain of this franchise according to these hacks, Genesis is the main bad guy and there will be some Cloud, Zack, Seph, Genesis action in there for all fan fiction enthusiasts to enjoy.
Jessie vowed to make the next bomb bigger. Avalanche blew it up, not Shinra.
You literally nailed everything on the head. Especially the bit with Aerith. They hate that FF7 is their best FF, or at least the most popular because of someone who split from them. Every best part of FF7 that everyone remembers and loves came from Sakaguchi's input personally.
Yo, you should fix your micrphone pops if that's not already done because everytime you say the letter P it destroys my monitors
This game is such a mess. And yet I'll still play Part 2 the minute it's out. Man though, I'm worried about how it's going to go.
Time travel rebirth Chrono
Forget the story and focus on the gameplay, exploration, and mini games. That's what I'm doing. Couldn't care less where the story ends up.
@@Scott-M1 The story is literally what makes the 1997 OG so iconic.
Cloud : "Sephiroth, what do you want?"
Sephiroth: "...those remnants will join the lifestream and girdle the planet; choking it; corroding it. What I want, Cloud, is to sail the cosmos with this planet as my vessel." Advent Children
Cashed out of this video after he made it clear in the first 2 minutes that he only likes final fantasy 7 all the other entries are bad. There is absolutely nothing of value that could possibly be said in the next 2 hours just based on that.
I’m cool on this one.
He didn't say that.
I got absolutely hatespamed by losers defending this shit when it came out. Its trashing the original games legacy. I renounce the entire compilation.
I’m so sorry this happened to you FF7 fans are toxic BTW avoid Final Fantasy Union community these guys have a toxic cult or follower base for FF7. I found out they don’t have PS5 and they didn’t even play that PS5 DLC exclusive FF7 remake Intergrade. So I don’t know why these guys are fans and they don’t support the game they flaunt about so much? Take about loving something you don’t support but bother people with it.
@@timmytimmymit5607 yeah I think it's just newer generation for the most part. They don't have respect for the original game. They don't have respect for people who have been waiting for a true remake longer than they have been alive. Final Fantasy VII remake honestly sucks because of what it could have been. So it's really a tale of two fan bases.
@@AmorFati777X I digress I hope you’re excited for FF16 we’re getting news on the next Thursday for *Final Fantasy XVI* , I love the series going back to its roots with medieval Europe, and the lore of Valisthea. And the protagonist Clive Rosfield is very cool!
@@timmytimmymit5607 not optimistic about anything square enix does. The last game that felt like an actual final Fantasy was final Fantasy x. That was 20 years ago. But I do hope that this game pans out.
@@AmorFati777X Well I have good news for you someone who worked on FFX is also working on FFXVI, if you liked games like The Last Remnant then this game is for you because it has some developers from that game. Kazuya Takahashi worked on FFX he’s also working on FFXVI or FF16.
0:44 Why are you listing Final Fantasy Games made by a company Post Hironobu Sakaguchi? That man was the artist who's art is now being imitated by his successors, but his successors are simply not him.
This video is spot on. I’m glad that there are people who share my exact sentiment
Final Fantasy three, four and five were all pitifully underrated.
I have played FFVII at least once a year since its release and it impresses me every time. Its not my favourite story in games (its close) but overall I think it provides the best overall package. The remakes story however is remarkable in how much effort they put into making it terrible when all they had to do was just use the original script. No stakes, no self discovery, nothing to overcome and meaningless convolution. It takes some serious chops to write a good story when you mess with such powerful things as time, dreams and fate or its going to come off as nonsensical contrived garbage aka what we have here.
Someone needs to give Nomura and whoever else was behind the writing a serious reality check and tell them no we are not doing that because its a shit idea but they wont cos hes in charge and hey its FF it will sell regardless although its prominence has been eroded considerably over the years and with good reason.
Jessi got smashed by N64 graphic steel beams thanks to numerous texture streaming issues the game has....... there was no emotional impact other than laughter....
Thanks for fixing the audio