ERT has a more generic response role now. The issue with the SIRT was all the members were pure counter terrorism in an organization that can't be seen practicing how to kill people all day.
Just stumbled on your Podcast. 42 years infantry, 1 PPCLI , and Reserve. Peacekeeping, Afghanistan, Retired. I can tell your professionalism. You can bullshit some of the people some of the time....................... You know how it goes. Love your channel Brother. Keep it up
@@14goldmedalsyou can join the reserves at age 17, and you can join at age 16 as long as you turn 17 in that calendar year. I joined in February 1979 and turned 17 in December. I did 4 1/2 in the reserves and the rest in the regular force.
@@14goldmedalsI joined in 1979 , you could join at age 16 as long as you turned 17 in that calendar year, I joined in February and turned 17 in December. So yes joined as a kid, better then working at McDonald's.
I’m former JTF2 primary corp man for the team. Basically we conduct all medic needs in the field. Trauma care and on site care. Typically we attach to JTF2 or CSOR but I actually was placed as an assaulter and qualified as one.
I did some work with a couple jtf and ert guys....my bestfriend is jtf and got invited to do some work at range...and im a civillian....the rcmp guys looked at me like i was a criminal being able to own the equip i have...they were not happy a civ was armed like me
RCMP HARP was the original program born of the British SAS followed by ERT then SERT was created obviously prior to JTF, a government decision was made as some felt it was inappropriate for police to do Counter Ter ops. Reality the RCMP has jurisdiction on CT operation not JTF. SERT/MSERT/ERT are actively involved in response to these events with a number of operations in this matter. Reality was politics, other issues were budget and pool for recruitment. SERT and ERT trained the first cadres of JTF and continued for many years until overseas operations took over. Combine training was always present but more with specific teams then between programs. Simply due to mutual regional access. The exchange of ideas, experience tactics, laws and other things always present. The same applies between RCMP teams and local or provincial teams also.
@@patallen5095 Yes we have worked with VPD a few times. We were also in plain clothes walking down the streets in downtown Vancouver. During the Olympics.
Can JTF2 slip into RCMP unforms or any other federal personnel role? For example, as Delta does in the US(watched a previous video where an ex-Delta mentioned this)
Presently the rcmp seems to be running into alot issues. The underlinings say its management thing. It would appear its command structure issue. Seemsnlike way past due for complete internal review to see whats breaking down. Is it just senior brass, command structure , what??????? But it has to be addressed because they seem to have so many departments that they run. Its probably leak tests, bad apples , and conflicting departments or over lap.
In the 1990s, I was working with the RCMP as a contractor (for mobiles to be used all over the country). Two of the people the team had regular contact were from the RCMP's Field Office (who were helping in educate and trouble shoot these new systems from an RCMP perspective. Those two individuals had been part of the RCMP's ERT before JTF2 took over that role. They did a lot of hostage rescue scenarios (one got partly deafened when a flash bank rolled right under her chair and went off when she was acting as a hostage). They were had snipers and everyone on the team had to be good with firearms. They were trained in operating armoured vehicles both open and closed (NBC protocol). They were very different than other police because they were the 'break glass if a national scenario where tactical response was required'. They were not used as far as I recall and the view of the two members I knew indicated that it was because if they had sent out the ERT, it would have been in a very bad situation and there would be casualties. The political masters were very leery to give the order to engage in instances where they could have been useful. There one benefit over JTF2 was this: Every member of the RCMP ERT was first and foremost trained as police officer. Their experience always being very aware of where a shot would be taken (to be aware of an innocents) is something a bit different how military people saw situations. I have a lot of appreciation for these people and the undercover people from the RCMP as well as most of the RCMP officers. There are less than great members in any large organization, sad to say. Had a friend in the US SF who worked with RCMP members involved in helping Haiti in the 1980s. he said the RCMP members that he rode with were solid, reliable and were very competent. He said he'd gladly have worked with them again. A friend of mine in the RCN was tasked to take a naval vessel (MCDV or something bigger) in the middle of the night while he was out on the East Coast. So he did as tasked. A number of fast RHIBs loaded with operators chased down their vessel and boarded. One of the crazy moves was JTF2 folk climbing the fan tail and one operator setting off the RHIB onto the command deck and he then proceeded to enter the cabin. My friend (the vessels skipper) saw the operator. My friend recognized a friend who had not been with JTF2 when he last saw him. They both smiled at how small Canada's military is...
Really so what are you then a blanket stacker....that's a BS statement budy...showed there what ...I was in Highriver ab 2013 when you fuckers helped kick in 1600 doors budy....carefull with your painting all with the same brush....
@@Ndnrbstns222 Your most welcome I was with JTF2 from 98 to 2012 before that I was a naval ship boarder and ships diver and Weapons officer. From 94 I was picked for selection in February 98 for JTF2. I feel bad for the guys today though. Along with rest of CAF personal. For what Blair and Trudeau and Anita annand did to the CAF. Along with the special forces of all units of sofcom. There's more to sofcom than just JTF2 and CSOR.
@@Sheanekeith Thank you for your service sir! I really admire you guys. I read a lot of comments from ex CAF about how it is today. Is it really that bad?
@Ndnrbstns222 We don't even have enough 9mm rounds for people to do there 9mm training and to get certified. 9mm rounds costs DND. .50 cents a round can't even get that. We have military vehicles that's can't even get fixed or serviced on cause of Money. We have CAF members eating out of food banks. Sleeping in there cars and tents. So yes it's that bad.
CANSOFCOM, Is an RCAF entity. We didnt let CSOR or the Army " in " and I personally kicked out American Danger Pay in 2012, If you ever served East of Alberta as Army you were never JTF2. If you wear Army you aren't CANSOFCOM. The only outcan CANSOFCOM positions are fighter pilot seats, unless your the Commanding Officer, I don't leave Canada 🤫 I work hand in hand with the RCMP off base. We don't use American Danger Pay.
@@lichtsoldat7697You can't just say you're the best. The prairies and BC deal with way more gangs than Ontario. Who says Edmonton, Calgary, or Vancouver doesn't have a better ERT?
@@lloydmaulerTrucker Convoy? G20 summit Kettling of innocents in Toronto? Should I continue? When the police act more like the enforcement arm of the Government instead of adhering to and enforcing actual LAW?
Do you agree with the use of force against your own citizens? Discussing as no other Sf only Russia. Fact. Thanks for your service. My brother served with 1RCR Bravo co, special operations.
Nope 👎🤣. But because he has tattoos you thought that? WTF 🤦🏼♀️Bahahaha! I’m An Army Veteran , Female and have 13 . However my Ex who was JTF2 has None! Never judge a book by its cover ‼️🫡🇨🇦
Well, isn't that obvious? That's like saying when RCMP members are newly engaged, they are far better than the ones who came before them 10 years ago, and even before the March West. Like dude, not even a relevant comment or even one of mutual respect. Grow up.
If you think the RCMP are a joke the first try to complete their training and then walk a mile in their service boots. Punks like you wouldn’t make pass the first day.
The video of JTF soldiers sniping guys in Iraq, at over 2km away, while wearing shorts and flip-flops is not a good image..... how many JTF-2 soldiers have been killed in combat to date?
Early 90's is when CAF took members out of units to replace RCMP ERT. So they are back now? Great interview and mad respect for JTF2.
ERT has a more generic response role now. The issue with the SIRT was all the members were pure counter terrorism in an organization that can't be seen practicing how to kill people all day.
JTF2 are in the World Top Ten Special Forces.
One of the best Direct Action units on Earth, according to Navy SEALs hierarchy.
The best direct action force
0:42 "part and partial" god bless you
Just stumbled on your Podcast. 42 years infantry, 1 PPCLI , and Reserve. Peacekeeping, Afghanistan, Retired. I can tell your professionalism. You can bullshit some of the people some of the time....................... You know how it goes. Love your channel Brother. Keep it up
So you stayed an Infanteer for 42 years? Retired at 60 did you? Curious minds want to know.
@@14goldmedalsI did 41 years regular and reserve time and Retired at 57, so it's possible.
@ so your time as a kid before 18 is counted, didn’t know.
@@14goldmedalsyou can join the reserves at age 17, and you can join at age 16 as long as you turn 17 in that calendar year. I joined in February 1979 and turned 17 in December. I did 4 1/2 in the reserves and the rest in the regular force.
@@14goldmedalsI joined in 1979 , you could join at age 16 as long as you turned 17 in that calendar year, I joined in February and turned 17 in December. So yes joined as a kid, better then working at McDonald's.
Good, balanced feedback.
I'm curious about the medics that work with CSOR and JTF2. Not sure if you know anyone that does that or has but that would be a cool video!.
No one cares
I’m former JTF2 primary corp man for the team. Basically we conduct all medic needs in the field. Trauma care and on site care. Typically we attach to JTF2 or CSOR but I actually was placed as an assaulter and qualified as one.
@@sikpig7302 Thank you so much sir I appreciate your comment!.
Critical levels (podcast) has a new episode on CANSOFCOM medics a good listen!
@@sikpig7302Canadians dont call them corpmen
Similar to how FBI HRT trains with seals, delta, rangers, etc.
Awesomeness 😊
I did some work with a couple jtf and ert guys....my bestfriend is jtf and got invited to do some work at range...and im a civillian....the rcmp guys looked at me like i was a criminal being able to own the equip i have...they were not happy a civ was armed like me
There gonna be in for a MASSIVE SURPRISE 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
RCMP HARP was the original program born of the British SAS followed by ERT then SERT was created obviously prior to JTF, a government decision was made as some felt it was inappropriate for police to do Counter Ter ops. Reality the RCMP has jurisdiction on CT operation not JTF. SERT/MSERT/ERT are actively involved in response to these events with a number of operations in this matter. Reality was politics, other issues were budget and pool for recruitment. SERT and ERT trained the first cadres of JTF and continued for many years until overseas operations took over. Combine training was always present but more with specific teams then between programs. Simply due to mutual regional access. The exchange of ideas, experience tactics, laws and other things always present.
The same applies between RCMP teams and local or provincial teams also.
Shuttup dude
I have a brother I did work with that was an OG Unit guy from '96 high level individuals no doubt he showed me the ways of the grey man.
Can you speak to JTFX.
Thanks for this. Any interaction with Vancouver PD's ERT?
@@patallen5095 Yes we have worked with VPD a few times. We were also in plain clothes walking down the streets in downtown Vancouver. During the Olympics.
I know some of the EOD guys working with the OPP guys every now and then.
Were you around in JTF2 when Devon larrett was serving?
Can JTF2 slip into RCMP unforms or any other federal personnel role? For example, as Delta does in the US(watched a previous video where an ex-Delta mentioned this)
No they cannot. And RCMP still supply their own ERT with ALL of its members, no one comes from Jtf2 and does RCMP work.
Presently the rcmp seems to be running into alot issues. The underlinings say its management thing. It would appear its command structure issue. Seemsnlike way past due for complete internal review to see whats breaking down. Is it just senior brass, command structure , what??????? But it has to be addressed because they seem to have so many departments that they run. Its probably leak tests, bad apples , and conflicting departments or over lap.
I would really like to see the ERT regain priority in CT operations within Canadian Borders.
Why? RCMP are shit
They lost that in the 90s for a reason.
@@Schaden-freude Which was? Im sure an increase in funding, plus training would clean up any mishaps.
In the 1990s, I was working with the RCMP as a contractor (for mobiles to be used all over the country). Two of the people the team had regular contact were from the RCMP's Field Office (who were helping in educate and trouble shoot these new systems from an RCMP perspective. Those two individuals had been part of the RCMP's ERT before JTF2 took over that role.
They did a lot of hostage rescue scenarios (one got partly deafened when a flash bank rolled right under her chair and went off when she was acting as a hostage). They were had snipers and everyone on the team had to be good with firearms. They were trained in operating armoured vehicles both open and closed (NBC protocol). They were very different than other police because they were the 'break glass if a national scenario where tactical response was required'. They were not used as far as I recall and the view of the two members I knew indicated that it was because if they had sent out the ERT, it would have been in a very bad situation and there would be casualties. The political masters were very leery to give the order to engage in instances where they could have been useful.
There one benefit over JTF2 was this: Every member of the RCMP ERT was first and foremost trained as police officer. Their experience always being very aware of where a shot would be taken (to be aware of an innocents) is something a bit different how military people saw situations.
I have a lot of appreciation for these people and the undercover people from the RCMP as well as most of the RCMP officers. There are less than great members in any large organization, sad to say.
Had a friend in the US SF who worked with RCMP members involved in helping Haiti in the 1980s. he said the RCMP members that he rode with were solid, reliable and were very competent. He said he'd gladly have worked with them again.
A friend of mine in the RCN was tasked to take a naval vessel (MCDV or something bigger) in the middle of the night while he was out on the East Coast. So he did as tasked. A number of fast RHIBs loaded with operators chased down their vessel and boarded. One of the crazy moves was JTF2 folk climbing the fan tail and one operator setting off the RHIB onto the command deck and he then proceeded to enter the cabin.
My friend (the vessels skipper) saw the operator. My friend recognized a friend who had not been with JTF2 when he last saw him. They both smiled at how small Canada's military is...
Lol weak ass wall of b.s
It was a no.. good aspect🎉🎉
I'm not sure as a current CAF member I would ever be comfortable working with RCMP. They have shown where their loyalties lie.
Shut up sergeant swallows
That’s throwing shade on nearly twenty thousand officers. I can assure you that they don’t all think the same.
@@djm7900uh huh
@@djm7900 Yet they've marched the same for the last 9 years.
Really so what are you then a blanket stacker....that's a BS statement budy...showed there what ...I was in Highriver ab 2013 when you fuckers helped kick in 1600 doors budy....carefull with your painting all with the same brush....
Topgun #1 🇨🇦
PS: I thought you was gonna sue me bud?
Do you have experience working with OPP TRU?
@@Ndnrbstns222 we worked with provincial police forces once in a while. Mostly RCMP though.
@ Awesome! Thanks for the response.
@@Ndnrbstns222 Your most welcome I was with JTF2 from 98 to 2012 before that I was a naval ship boarder and ships diver and Weapons officer. From 94 I was picked for selection in February 98 for JTF2. I feel bad for the guys today though. Along with rest of CAF personal. For what Blair and Trudeau and Anita annand did to the CAF. Along with the special forces of all units of sofcom. There's more to sofcom than just JTF2 and CSOR.
@@Sheanekeith Thank you for your service sir! I really admire you guys. I read a lot of comments from ex CAF about how it is today. Is it really that bad?
@Ndnrbstns222 We don't even have enough 9mm rounds for people to do there 9mm training and to get certified. 9mm rounds costs DND. .50 cents a round can't even get that. We have military vehicles that's can't even get fixed or serviced on cause of Money. We have CAF members eating out of food banks. Sleeping in there cars and tents. So yes it's that bad.
You got shut from the pay check i am not😂
Rwgementa canadian millitary police
CANSOFCOM,
Is an RCAF entity.
We didnt let CSOR or the Army " in " and I personally kicked out American Danger Pay in 2012,
If you ever served East of Alberta as Army you were never JTF2.
If you wear Army you aren't CANSOFCOM.
The only outcan CANSOFCOM positions are fighter pilot seats, unless your the Commanding Officer,
I don't leave Canada 🤫
I work hand in hand with the RCMP off base.
We don't use American Danger Pay.
Can you compete a uiic..eli from a 5 d releasing honorably😂
Mike Starker RIP
A very well known guy. My friend named his dog starker.
Ru Dana White’s brother? 😅
Very well stated as a former police use of force instructor.
Professional, controlled, addressed salient points for positive reflection.
context
Tell us about the simunition exercise with OPS @ Canadian Tire Centre and JTF2 playing enemy force 😂
why does he have an American flag on his arm
JTF 2 version of dana white
Hey Randy, what about the Toronto Police ETF? They are the best Police SWAT Unit in Canada. Ever train with them?
A bold statement. Just out of curiosity, what makes you think or say that they (Toronto SWAT) are the best?
@@ntaylor8254 Because I was ETF. LOL. We were the best! It's Daz. ;) Nice videos brother.
@@lichtsoldat7697You can't just say you're the best. The prairies and BC deal with way more gangs than Ontario. Who says Edmonton, Calgary, or Vancouver doesn't have a better ERT?
@@brendon9032 Lol. It's a joke between me and Randy. We know each other. But....I do think we are the best! ;)
@lichtsoldat7697 Okay!
The Canadian police are modern Gestapo, just the same as the American police!!!
source: feelings and no facts.
@@lloydmaulerTrucker Convoy? G20 summit Kettling of innocents in Toronto? Should I continue? When the police act more like the enforcement arm of the Government instead of adhering to and enforcing actual LAW?
shows you have no idea what the Gestapo really were. Gestapo are undercover police... not uniformed front line police you moron.
RCMP ERT are ex JTF2 guys that have undergone some limited RCMP course. I have an Army buddy whose son made the move.
Do you agree with the use of force against your own citizens? Discussing as no other Sf only Russia. Fact. Thanks for your service. My brother served with 1RCR Bravo co, special operations.
Never saw you complain about OKA or a native anti pipeline protest. Hypocrite.
@@lloydmauler So you do agree with this travesty traitor mauler meets the ass standard. LMAO cannot fix stupid lloydsofter.
@@lloydmaulerBit of a dim bulb are we?
Just out of jail?
Nope 👎🤣. But because he has tattoos you thought that? WTF 🤦🏼♀️Bahahaha! I’m An Army Veteran , Female and have 13 . However my Ex who was JTF2 has None! Never judge a book by its cover ‼️🫡🇨🇦
Once we took over from the RCMP we were far better then the SERT team ever was🇨🇦🏴☠️
Well, isn't that obvious? That's like saying when RCMP members are newly engaged, they are far better than the ones who came before them 10 years ago, and even before the March West. Like dude, not even a relevant comment or even one of mutual respect. Grow up.
@@user-sy6jf4hm3t I have zero respect for the fucking RCMP🖕🇨🇦🏴☠️
RCMP, Canadas joke police service
If you think the RCMP are a joke the first try to complete their training and then walk a mile in their service boots. Punks like you wouldn’t make pass the first day.
@@grantsmith1084I'm not sitting through 6 weeks of DEI indoctrination.
Your buddy’s that you know from JTF2 are real petty, and participate in some really petty illegal activity - inside source from random internet dude
bald goof LOL
The video of JTF soldiers sniping guys in Iraq, at over 2km away, while wearing shorts and flip-flops is not a good image..... how many JTF-2 soldiers have been killed in combat to date?
It was hot, no one cares what you wear, competency over everything. No members have been killed in combat in the middle east.
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It is a good image
Not a good image? GFYH. Maybe it was casual Friday? Maybe they wanted to be comfortable at the office and not sweat their bags off that day.
It was 3.4 Km.....and what difference does it make what they were wearing Sgt Major.
former jtf2 with a stars and stripes tattoo? born in the states i guess?
@@prophilactic he is a former Joint taskforce 2 assaulter. I can vouch for that I served with him. From when he joined in 08 til I retired in 2012.
He has a video on his channel explaining the meaning of his Tatoo
@@Sheanekeithstolen valor