Thanks for the video. Very well made. I'm very skeptical on the danger of backclipping. Do you know any recorded accident that happened because of backclipping? The head of innovation of Edelrid made the statement that there are 0 recorded accidents because of backclipping :D
Thanks for re-watching the new video! I do not have any research relating to backclipping accidents. Just because it hasn't been reported doesn't mean that it hasn't happened, hasn't resulted in a near-miss, or couldn't be a component of an accident that could result in injury. Regardless, the situation is easily avoidable and fixable, doesn't require additional gear to mitigate, so best practice would likely be to avoid backclipping if possible. Like many things (high clipping, teeth clipping, fingers through the gate, etc.) establishing safe habits reduces your exposure to risk. If you have risky habits however, then when there is an accident those factors will more likely come into play. :D
@@CornellOutdoorEd The dangers of backclipping in a gym are mostly theoretical. Orienting the quickdraw the wrong way outdoors is the real danger, since you can fairly easily unclip the top of the quickdraw from the bolt when the line doesn't go very straight. Gyms generally have very safe quickdraw placement. It is a good habit and good risk mitigation to avoid backclipping, but if you do, I'd rather suggest to climb on to the next quickdraw instead of unclipping, since I would say the risk of falling during reclipping is higher than the rope unclipping itself. Do note that is a personal judgement, as I have absolutely nothing to back up that gut feeling. Still a nice and educational video!
@@Beam_of_Love We like to teach the ability and encourage the practice of correcting mistakes as they happen for a couple of reasons. Not all mistakes are as theoretical - skipping clips for instance will clearly increase the length of your fall - and we wouldn't want to foster a nonchalant attitude. By expecting climbers to fix their backclips, climbers will either become proficient at clipping correctly (to avoid having to fix it) or will get good at fixing back clips (not a bad skill set to have). Falling at a clip while you are fixing it is essentially the same as if you fell while clipping it in the first place, which is generally an acceptable distance. Thanks for the thoughtful comment!
Thanks for the video. Very well made. I'm very skeptical on the danger of backclipping. Do you know any recorded accident that happened because of backclipping? The head of innovation of Edelrid made the statement that there are 0 recorded accidents because of backclipping :D
Thanks for re-watching the new video! I do not have any research relating to backclipping accidents. Just because it hasn't been reported doesn't mean that it hasn't happened, hasn't resulted in a near-miss, or couldn't be a component of an accident that could result in injury. Regardless, the situation is easily avoidable and fixable, doesn't require additional gear to mitigate, so best practice would likely be to avoid backclipping if possible. Like many things (high clipping, teeth clipping, fingers through the gate, etc.) establishing safe habits reduces your exposure to risk. If you have risky habits however, then when there is an accident those factors will more likely come into play. :D
@@CornellOutdoorEd The dangers of backclipping in a gym are mostly theoretical. Orienting the quickdraw the wrong way outdoors is the real danger, since you can fairly easily unclip the top of the quickdraw from the bolt when the line doesn't go very straight. Gyms generally have very safe quickdraw placement. It is a good habit and good risk mitigation to avoid backclipping, but if you do, I'd rather suggest to climb on to the next quickdraw instead of unclipping, since I would say the risk of falling during reclipping is higher than the rope unclipping itself. Do note that is a personal judgement, as I have absolutely nothing to back up that gut feeling.
Still a nice and educational video!
@@Beam_of_Love We like to teach the ability and encourage the practice of correcting mistakes as they happen for a couple of reasons. Not all mistakes are as theoretical - skipping clips for instance will clearly increase the length of your fall - and we wouldn't want to foster a nonchalant attitude. By expecting climbers to fix their backclips, climbers will either become proficient at clipping correctly (to avoid having to fix it) or will get good at fixing back clips (not a bad skill set to have). Falling at a clip while you are fixing it is essentially the same as if you fell while clipping it in the first place, which is generally an acceptable distance. Thanks for the thoughtful comment!