@@liluvbunvt because ea are crap :( they are not letting the game be made while also refusing to give or sell the ip to any other company so they are basically just sitting on it for no reason at all since they arent doing ANYTHING with it 😭 mcgee has even given up on alice asylum completely because of this situation 😞
@KoreGaJiyuuDa damn 💔💔💔 and I was looking forward to it... :(( honestly, it's the best game I've ever played.. I just.. hope things will change in the future. Who knows.
@@grph1t3z yeah im playing through madness returns for the first time now. It looks fine, the environments and enemy design is very very good. The actual gameplay like combat and platforming? Definitely not great. Not the worst I've ever played but not good
@@seokagust no worries. Just wanted to let you know where to find the abilities 😀 I also did a longer video (linked in description) where you can see the user interface and read the abilities for yourself, if you are needing to keep the sound off
That'd be a good fit, but EA has blocked anyone from working on the IP. Absolutely dumb. If they don't wanna fund it, fine, but let someone else buy the IP and do something with it!!!
I can see the reason behind this since they were able to take the story of Pinnochio and make it into a souls-like game I just hope they don't make this series into souls-like if they ever somehow do get the rights to the IP but more of how it already is except that the combat is more polished and thought out(from what I've seen from discussion pages about this games combat being a hit or miss) I'm probably gonna play this game at some point, which is why I research discussions
@@motivatedstorm3816 the combat in Alice 1 & 2 is ok, but it was never amazing. It was always more about the environments, stories, and platform-puzzles. So I wouldn't mind if another company changed the combat significantly... that said, yeah I don't think a souls-like style is the right fit.
At the very least Alice in Wonderland (The original books) is Public Domain. We may not be able to get more of American McGee's Alice, but hopefully once Neowiz has finished their Lies of P DLC and Wizard of Oz (Assuming they follow up on that tease) the can at least create a spiritual successor to American McGee's Alice.
You may be right, but I imagine several people would fight you over this (especially JRPG fans). But I def prefer the style of Alice, and her entire world, over a JRPG
That's a great point! It's one of those games where you can just be in the menu and already you're happy because of the rich and layered game music! I couldn't agree more :-D
Agreed! Soo good! Luckily it still runs great on both Steam & EA, and it's from the last generation of console where you can actually install it from physical media with no internet required :-)
Awesome series, hearing about Alice Asylum being cancalled make me really sad :// I still have hope for 3 game, but probably there will never be 3 Alice game. Sad
Agreed! Yeah, American McGee claims he's 100% done since EA blocked him. I think our best hope at this point is an indie studio making a spiritual successor... which could be good. Just so frustrating when the formula for success was dropped at EA's feet and not only did they say no, but then they blocked American from doing it anywhere else :-(
Haha, well you can thank Walt Disney, because I'm pretty sure I just copied what I heard in the old animated "Alice in Wonderland," but I'll take it :-D
Once I switched to Caterpillar it was so hard to go back to anything else. I honestly hated shrinking to check for hidden paths or hints, it just saved so much time to have it already showing lol
I agree! I hate possibly missing a secret, so I was constantly shrinking/unshrinking and it felt disruptive to the gameplay. The caterpillar lets me play more normally and quells my paranoia :-D
I was OBSESSED with this game. It might be a little niche, but my god, it’s incredible. I love everything about it, I could gush for hours. My sisters weren’t big gamers like me, but they also loved it to pieces and begged me to play it (because I bought it with my birthday money). I just bought it again on Steam for myself and a friend and convinced him to play it. I hope one day EA lets go of the IP, but American McGee said he was DONE, and I don’t blame him…It’s bittersweet knowing what Asylum could have been. 💔
It's a game worthy of obsession, in my opinion. It's one of my all time favorites! (I've been re-watching it as Valentine Gaming plays it on her channel). Yeah, EA doesn't need to help it get made, they just need to stop actively blocking it. While American McGee says he's done, I think what he really means is he's done with EA. If EA sold the rights to someone, I bet American would reconsider. EA just did him *way* too dirty. I too am so sad Asylum didn't happen :-(
this game is my favorite horror game ever, so sad that EA doesn't want to allow the new game to be made (there is a 500-ish page concept art book that looks ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, i still can't get over the fact the new game is cancelled. I hope someone in the future can continue this fight with EA and eventually win, so this project can see the light of day).
I agree but sadly even if there will win the fight the original author won't comeback so it won't be the same... Thankfully there's that book that can guide but I still doubt it'd be the same.
The fact that EA wouldn't let American Mcgee finish his trilogy for Alice is mind-blowing. He even wanted to pay to get back his IP and they were like no. We will never get his amazing finale Alice Asylum.
Yeah, it would be one thing if EA didn't want to help make a game and didn't want to invest in it... but we don't need that. We literally just need them to accept money and get out of the way and let it happen. What absolute jerks EA have been over this!
Not always, as if Wonderland just dresses you in a particular outfit to match a level, then it doesn't have the ability. But if you equip it in the equip menu, then it does come with the ability 😀
i read on a forum that apparently there is a secret outfit we can unlock in madness by doing extremely specific things from the very beggining of the game... and it unlocks before the final boss fight... that even unlock a secret ending... its hidden on the game files under a coded file in the models folder/code file... apparently its super hard to do doe since the outfit its super shock value and disturbing... there is no screen shots sadly... ive tried my self for a whole year to try to unlock it... but apparently its only possible to do on a non release version of the game... its only possible to unlock on a developer edition... and no the OP who made the post said its not a nude version... but more like a version of alice that terrifies the final boss
Interesting. I'd never heard that, but often there are features in Release Candidate builds of a game that get cut before the official release, so it is plausible
@@CynicPlacebo yeah... i pretty much learned coding and other stuff to make sure this post by OP was real or fake... and i can confirm... there is a file with line of code in the game files that its not accessible in the official release of the game... so like you said there is a high chance that its true but sadly unless i get a developer copy of the game to my hands i cant confirm this... :(... i even tried sending a email to EA asking for a chance to check it if they still had one but they never got in touch or replied to me... this was 4 years ago :(...
@@bassgrudge1602 sometimes you can find pre-builds on abandonware sites or archive dot org. Might be worth looking. It's hard though, as tech companies don't often preserve those RC builds, as they are almost never useful in the long run. We just use them as a way to debug and test before going to a final build.
Thank you for spreading the word about Alice and not letting such a masterpiece be forgotten. It might contribute to the series being somehow continued. I hope I’ll see a new game inspired by it in my lifetime
Yeah, I definitely want the younger generation of gamers to know about this game. It is such an amazing game! The first one from 2000 was also amazing, in its own right. Fingers crossed someone takes up the mantle and manages to make a phenomenal new installment in the series, despite the MANY hurdles EA is putting in the way :-/
Yeah, it isn't too bad. I did a video on that and even made it run at 144fps, which was fun. I don't make Alice 1 live alongside Alice 2 though, as launching it from Alice 2 just adds extra time and RAM usage that is unnecessary, since the Alice 1 launcher works fine on its own. th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
There's still a faint glimmer of hope... but it will require some dedicated and skillful fans to take the reigns, as American McGee is too scared of EA
They did amazing with the character design, and the dresses are equally awesome. I always love when you can feel that the devs/artists weren't rushed and they put some extra love into it :-D
I love this game so much! I can understand that point of view. A few levels do get a little tedious, but I just enjoy the world so much that I don't mind playing around in it, even when it's a little slow (like the Octopus hide and seek)
I remember playing the older version of this back when I was 15 or 18. Maybe even 13 😂 Now I'm playing this version and to this day, I'm still obssessed eveb years has passed 😂 Its a beautiful game. I want another one 😢😢
Yeah, I played it back in 2010 when it was new, and I've loved it ever since! Such a fantastic game with amazing art, puzzles, and story! So sad EA screwed McGee out of Alice Asylum :-(
This game came out just a little after that was a popular thing to spin off as a flash game, unfortunately. That'd be fun though. In the mean time, if you want to see both fronts and backs of the dresses (like if you wanted to draw them from a diff angle or do cosplay of one), I did make a 360 view video: th-cam.com/video/jyFz-QhltSE/w-d-xo.html
@@sirouskaramian-s4s you know the best thing about EA? Because they exist, they make Ubisoft not look so bad :P Haha, yeah, EA really went full villain here.
Such a good game! Glad you got a chance to play it. Did you play the first game with the HD Mod? If not, I recommend a revisit, as it does make it run a lot smoother on new machines: www.nexusmods.com/americanmcgeesalice/mods/1
Im not a big fan of games thst have skins with perks and stuff unless they let me wear it without the perks, like some look great but have a drawback that i dont want to deal with
Yeah, I tend to avoid DLC whenever I can. I like owning my games too (which is why GOG is my fave game store). I wish Alice was on GOG (either the original or Madness Returns). I also understand not wanting the drawbacks of some of the dresses. My favorite is the caterpillar dress, just because it helps me not miss any secret little nooks or crannies in the game :-D
You can see some of it in the design bible they made. They really had a lot of the outlining done. All the more reason it's so sad EA squashed it :-( archive.org/details/alice-asylum-design-bible-feb-2023-v-1.1_202310/mode/1up
I made a guide here: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html Note, there is 1 extra step in the text of the video description though (it's hard to keep these videos up-to-date)
Would it be possible for you to do a 360 of chesire ?? I know this post was months ago but im trying to recreate her dress irl and can't find super clear pics of it all around.
@@sadsprt-501 ok, I got it recorded, but I still need to get a decent thumbnail so it doesn't bomb on my channel, lol. I'll release it tomorrow morning (like 11 hours and 20 min from now, as that will give me time to make a thumbnail, but I gotta get some other stuff done before bed tonight)
You used to be able to buy them, but now the only way is to manually edit the config file. I have a guide here, but beware there is an extra step in the video description that some users have to do for it to work: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to force it unless you have a modded Xbox 360 (which is quite rare). You have to have purchased the DLC or bought the "complete edition" of the game that included them unlocked initially. To force it requires editing an INI file, and there is just no way to do that with an unmodded Xbox 360 (that I know of).
Only the DLC dresses have abilities. If the level dresses you up in a specific dress, it's just cosmetic and there are no abilities associated with it. But if you equip it from the DLC menu, then the abilities apply
@@rottie7883 awesome! I do have a guide for how to configure things here, if you need some guidance. Unfortunately it does have 1 step I had to add into the video description to keep it up to date, so that 1 step isn't in the video itself th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
Well if we both put it on our christmas lists, and we're both really good, maybe we can get it from Santa. ...alternately, we could all write naughty letters to EA until they relent XD
definitely has a similar vibe. Obviously she is based on the previous game from 2000, but Evanescence was around by then, so it is possible that influenced the first Alice game
Me too! Such an amazing game! My friend Valentine Gaming has been replaying it, and I've enjoyed re-watching it. She's also a huge fan! th-cam.com/video/wp4_5i9Z6-I/w-d-xo.html
It's a medium sized game. If you just booked through it, you could probably knock it out in about 12 hours. If you want to find all the hidden hog snouts, collect all the memories, and get a bunch of teeth to buy all the upgrades, then you are looking at more like 24 hours probably. You can choose your difficulty. If you just want to experience the world and puzzles, easy mode is the way to go. It isn't so easy that it will be boring, but the enemies won't kill you very often. Normal mode you will die a few times, especially to bosses, but it still feels pretty fair. It also lets you switch on the fly, so I'd go with Hard, see how it feels, and then you can always bump it down if it feels too hard. The puzzles are the same in all modes though, and the puzzles are excellent, so you'll get that experience in any mode. If you play the original game though, the difficulty is much harder, so be warned!
@@WonderwomanFitness haha, no prob. Happy to help 😀 P.S. Alice Madness Returns is on sale right now on Steam for 1.99 right now, if you don't have it yet.
How do you get the other dresses like the Cheshire cat dress, caterpillar dress and the other cool ones? EDIT: I am playing on XBOX and i have also completed the game What will downloading the content do?
Unfortunately, I don't believe you can get these on Xbox anymore as the DLC is no longer offered. In theory, if you could edit the INI file on the Xbox, it should work... but you'd have to have a hacked Xbox that allows you to edit files. Not really feasible. So this is limited to PC gamers, sorry
@@darielitou3739 on Xbox 360? Is it still in the store there? I've documented how to do it on Steam & EA, but it'd be cool if it was possible on xbox too.
@@yelenskareads might be worth investing in snagging a PC copy. They are usually $9.99, and it's nice to have it available on another device (in case the console breaks one day)
I agree! I remember when the 1st one came out, I didn't have a PC that could play it, but I sure wanted to. Then many years later I finally played it. Fantastic!
They don't make it very clear in the game. You have to go into the "equip" section of the main menu or you'll never see it. It is a fun way to add some replayability. I like to play with the Caterpillar dress on to make sure I don't miss any hidden little secret somewhere :-D
@@Dollyfever possibly 2 things: 1) if does cover some dark topics, including abuse, so be warned (nothing graphic, just sensitive topics) 2) if you wanna enable the DLC, or tweak some settings, you can follow my guide: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
Oh! And another thing I wanted to ask real quick. I’ve heard there is a first game called “American mcgees Alice” but i don’t see it in my main screen ):
Awesome! I definitely tried to spread the word on social media that it was cheap and people should snap up this masterpiece while they can! If you are interested in getting these other dresses, I have a guide to unlock them here: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html There is 1 step not in the video, and instead it is in the video description (hard to keep things accurate when EA changes stuff)
I have a guide to unlock the dresses here, but there was a change, so 1 extra step is in the text of the video description: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
It'll play fine on a laptop. It came out in 2010, so as long ad your laptop is newer than about 2015, it should run awesome. It won't play on a chromebook though (not without streaming from a desktop)
Yeah, so disheartening that EA blocked things to hard. I bet if he built is as DLC inside of Sim 4, then EA would be cool with it :P They certainly don't seem to take good care of their intellectual property.
As long as you like 3D platform adventures and light-to-medium horror, you won't regret it :-D It's one of my favorite games, so I think everyone should play it at least once
I cover that in this video, but there is an extra step I had to add to the video description. It isn't needed for everyone, but seems to help for most people: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
I made a guide here. It is slightly outdated, so there is 1 extra step in the text of the video description to make it work th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
This is my favorite game ever. I just come back to gameplay it again in nightmare mode again. If u don't play it im nightmare it doesn't make sense cuz nightmare is still ezzy. I bet em to make a harder level with no violets anywhere on the map or just a some of em
It is a fantastic game! I usually don't play in nightmare mode, because I just like to poke around and explore the corners and see if there is some tidbit I've missed :-D But yeah, the combat in this game isn't very hard, so I get it. I just love the art design. Have you tried Alice 1 with Overkill on? That mod adds a bit of a challenge. It's also bundled with the HD stuff, so I always recommend that people use this mod when playing the first game: www.nexusmods.com/americanmcgeesalice/mods/1
They did an excellent job! Even back in the first Alice game from 2000, the art was phenomenal, and the character design, and even just some of the walls and textures. Definitely a franchise where artists got to really express themselves :-D
@@Brian-ti7xm American McGee's Alice was huge when I was in High School, so when Madness Returns came out in 2011, it was a big deal for a lot of us Alice fans. I definitely try to spread the word about these games, as they are both still excellent. The combat is so-so, and the first game's platforming is a little iffy, but other than that, absolute masterpieces. If you are playing Alice1, I do recommend using the 2020 HD mod (that's what I did on my last playthrough on the channel) www.nexusmods.com/americanmcgeesalice/mods/1
A mi tambien me encanta ese juego! Es uno de mis favoritos. Lo jugue initialmente en el Xbox 360, pero me agradesco que esta en el PC tambien para que lo puedo preservar :-D
Yes :-D If you are playing on PC (either Steam or EA) you can unlock it and other dresses by following the steps in this video (and 1 extra step in the vid description): th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
@@Comically_Funny_Baseball_Cap I heard someone say they still sell the DLC on Xbox One, but I haven't confirmed myself. If they do, that's how you'd get the Cheshire dress.
It goes on sale on Steam & EA every now and then. I think it's worth getting a PC copy so it'll last for many more years to come :-D ...or, I've seen some used PS3's for reasonable prices. Maybe it's time to snag one, haha
There was definitely influence there. I think maybe more influence from Lydia in Beetlejuice. American McGee's Alice came out in 2000, and the reboot of Addam's Family from the early 90s was still a big part of the culture, as was Beetlejuice (especially given the cartoon reboot in the 90s). I'm sure Alice's design had those influences. That said, for 2000, the pagan symbols on Alice were really pushing the envelope, and her features were much more angular than Wednesday or Lydia.
Flesh maiden is amazing. I love its creepy design, and love being able to berserk through with hysteria :-D Yeah, you can actually change the power and stats of weapons in the config files too, so you can experiment with your own custom levels of power and special abilities.
They were hidden by a "DLC" paywall initially, but the files are in the game and can be unlocked with this guide I made: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html Note: there is an extra step in the video description (as it's hard to keep a video up-to-date when things change slightly on EA's end)
Si habla espanol, puedo entender esto tambien. Vivia en Chile de 2002 a 2004. No hablo perfecto, pero entiendo bastante. Su nombre parecia latino, asi que quisiera avisarle
Great game, thought the dresses were very cool too. Only issue I do have is some of the levels are a bit too long making the combat repetitive and boring at times.
Yeah, the combat is the achilles heel of Alice MR, for sure. I don't mind the length, as long as there is good story telling and puzzles, but yeah a bunch of enemies in a row doesn't really add a lot in this game.
There are areas where she is supposed to have specific dresses, but after you've beaten the game, the DLC setting lets you wear any dress on any level.
I had no idea the dresses did things!
Yeah, they are really cool!
Caterpillar is my fave because it helps make sure you don't miss secrets :-D
the game literally tells u what each of them do💀
i dont think im ever going to get over alice asylum being cancelled
So sad. If EA doesn't wanna do it, fine... but release the IP to let it happen elsewhere.
So lame that they want to actively block it :-(
Wait why???
@@liluvbunvt because ea are crap :( they are not letting the game be made while also refusing to give or sell the ip to any other company so they are basically just sitting on it for no reason at all since they arent doing ANYTHING with it 😭 mcgee has even given up on alice asylum completely because of this situation 😞
@KoreGaJiyuuDa damn 💔💔💔 and I was looking forward to it... :(( honestly, it's the best game I've ever played.. I just.. hope things will change in the future. Who knows.
@@KoreGaJiyuuDa it’s one of the hundreds of reasons why I hope anyone but Trump wins the election
This game was ahead of its time.
I concur! It still looks great today, and it feels pithy and real while keeping its creative nature and a diverse set of puzzles :-D
Agreed. Too bad EA's greedy ass wouldn't give us another
@@JohnDelayLi sadly. Even if they'd just stop blocking it so it could get crowd-funded that would be a huge win, but they refuse 😞
Stylistically? Yes? Gameplay? No I love the alice games but don’t be ignorant
@@grph1t3z yeah im playing through madness returns for the first time now. It looks fine, the environments and enemy design is very very good.
The actual gameplay like combat and platforming? Definitely not great. Not the worst I've ever played but not good
I just finished the game and now finding out the dresses have different abilities 😧 i just thought they’re pretty
I did the same thing. But, it just adds to the replayability :-D
What abilities o_O
@@seokagust I say in the short. I list the dresses and say what abilities you get
@@CynicPlacebo oh sorry, i was watching in silent just to see the dresses hahahah
@@seokagust no worries. Just wanted to let you know where to find the abilities 😀
I also did a longer video (linked in description) where you can see the user interface and read the abilities for yourself, if you are needing to keep the sound off
I'LL NEVER BE OVER MY ALICE OBSESSION
Me neither! It's an excellent game based on an excellent book!
This game has the best atmosphere ever
It really does! I still love playing the first Alice, for the same reason, but they really expanded upon the maps and levels in Madness Returns :-D
this game is so cool: i wish there was a 2023 remake
For sure! I was so sad to hear that EA shut down the sequel "Alice Asylum." If they hadn't that would probably be coming out next year.
So sad :-(
If Neowiz; creators of Lies of P, could just pick up this franchise up. . . That be great 😅😊
That'd be a good fit, but EA has blocked anyone from working on the IP. Absolutely dumb. If they don't wanna fund it, fine, but let someone else buy the IP and do something with it!!!
@@CynicPlacebo which is why EA can go f itself
I can see the reason behind this since they were able to take the story of Pinnochio and make it into a souls-like game
I just hope they don't make this series into souls-like if they ever somehow do get the rights to the IP but more of how it already is except that the combat is more polished and thought out(from what I've seen from discussion pages about this games combat being a hit or miss)
I'm probably gonna play this game at some point, which is why I research discussions
@@motivatedstorm3816 the combat in Alice 1 & 2 is ok, but it was never amazing. It was always more about the environments, stories, and platform-puzzles. So I wouldn't mind if another company changed the combat significantly... that said, yeah I don't think a souls-like style is the right fit.
At the very least Alice in Wonderland (The original books) is Public Domain.
We may not be able to get more of American McGee's Alice, but hopefully once Neowiz has finished their Lies of P DLC and Wizard of Oz (Assuming they follow up on that tease) the can at least create a spiritual successor to American McGee's Alice.
Alice is the most stylish VG character PERIOD
You may be right, but I imagine several people would fight you over this (especially JRPG fans). But I def prefer the style of Alice, and her entire world, over a JRPG
Can we talk about how awesome the soundtrack is?
That's a great point! It's one of those games where you can just be in the menu and already you're happy because of the rich and layered game music!
I couldn't agree more :-D
It’s beautiful ❤ I remember just running around slashing at nothing just to enjoy the music and look at the scenery.
@@lilscenechick1995 agreed! I love just being in Wonderland, especially since each level is so rich and distinct
Miss…this….game…: most underrated game ever
Agreed! Soo good! Luckily it still runs great on both Steam & EA, and it's from the last generation of console where you can actually install it from physical media with no internet required :-)
Awesome series, hearing about Alice Asylum being cancalled make me really sad ://
I still have hope for 3 game, but probably there will never be 3 Alice game.
Sad
Agreed!
Yeah, American McGee claims he's 100% done since EA blocked him. I think our best hope at this point is an indie studio making a spiritual successor... which could be good. Just so frustrating when the formula for success was dropped at EA's feet and not only did they say no, but then they blocked American from doing it anywhere else :-(
thank you for pronouncing cheshire right so many americans say it wrong and it really peeves me as someone from cheshire
Haha, well you can thank Walt Disney, because I'm pretty sure I just copied what I heard in the old animated "Alice in Wonderland," but I'll take it :-D
its ke.shire? shê.shire?
Once I switched to Caterpillar it was so hard to go back to anything else. I honestly hated shrinking to check for hidden paths or hints, it just saved so much time to have it already showing lol
I agree! I hate possibly missing a secret, so I was constantly shrinking/unshrinking and it felt disruptive to the gameplay. The caterpillar lets me play more normally and quells my paranoia :-D
I was OBSESSED with this game. It might be a little niche, but my god, it’s incredible. I love everything about it, I could gush for hours. My sisters weren’t big gamers like me, but they also loved it to pieces and begged me to play it (because I bought it with my birthday money). I just bought it again on Steam for myself and a friend and convinced him to play it. I hope one day EA lets go of the IP, but American McGee said he was DONE, and I don’t blame him…It’s bittersweet knowing what Asylum could have been. 💔
It's a game worthy of obsession, in my opinion. It's one of my all time favorites! (I've been re-watching it as Valentine Gaming plays it on her channel).
Yeah, EA doesn't need to help it get made, they just need to stop actively blocking it. While American McGee says he's done, I think what he really means is he's done with EA. If EA sold the rights to someone, I bet American would reconsider. EA just did him *way* too dirty.
I too am so sad Asylum didn't happen :-(
this game is my favorite horror game ever, so sad that EA doesn't want to allow the new game to be made (there is a 500-ish page concept art book that looks ABSOLUTELY AMAZING, i still can't get over the fact the new game is cancelled. I hope someone in the future can continue this fight with EA and eventually win, so this project can see the light of day).
I 100% agree. I do love the design bible for Asylum & hope someone is willing to fight EA.
I agree but sadly even if there will win the fight the original author won't comeback so it won't be the same...
Thankfully there's that book that can guide but I still doubt it'd be the same.
Late but Lucky is my personally my favorite to use not for the power but for the appearance.
That is a fantastic one. I think it's one of the more sleek and elegant ones
all of her dresses are gorgeous 😭 this game is my entire style
The style throughout is excellent!
17:27 Alice is LITERALY a backstabber
True... though she tends to prefer a slashing motion over a stabbing one :-D
Alice. I remember Alice: Madness Returns. She's the one a goth.
She definitely had that goth appeal :-D
Such a fantastic game, and definitely still worth playing in 2024!
FLESH MAIDEN HAS MY HEART
It is an awesome dress, and being able to go into Hysteria when ever you want is so cool!
The Nightmare looks like it has the skull of the Jabberwock at its base.
I never realized, but I think you are right!
WHAATT I didn't know there were so many costumes and weapons Holy crap!!!
Yeah, very cool options, each with its own power :-D
WAIT WHAT THEY DO THINGS?
I know, crazy, right?!? I had no idea until after I beat the game. Made me feel a little silly, but cool to know now :-D
I had no clue either
I really love the white rabbit outfit the most out of all of them. 😍
That one does look amazing!
The fact that EA wouldn't let American Mcgee finish his trilogy for Alice is mind-blowing. He even wanted to pay to get back his IP and they were like no. We will never get his amazing finale Alice Asylum.
Yeah, it would be one thing if EA didn't want to help make a game and didn't want to invest in it... but we don't need that. We literally just need them to accept money and get out of the way and let it happen. What absolute jerks EA have been over this!
Thanks mate, subbed.
Thanks, glad you liked it :-)
I never realized that the dresses had special abilities.
Not always, as if Wonderland just dresses you in a particular outfit to match a level, then it doesn't have the ability. But if you equip it in the equip menu, then it does come with the ability 😀
i read on a forum that apparently there is a secret outfit we can unlock in madness by doing extremely specific things from the very beggining of the game... and it unlocks before the final boss fight... that even unlock a secret ending... its hidden on the game files under a coded file in the models folder/code file... apparently its super hard to do doe since the outfit its super shock value and disturbing... there is no screen shots sadly... ive tried my self for a whole year to try to unlock it... but apparently its only possible to do on a non release version of the game... its only possible to unlock on a developer edition... and no the OP who made the post said its not a nude version... but more like a version of alice that terrifies the final boss
Interesting. I'd never heard that, but often there are features in Release Candidate builds of a game that get cut before the official release, so it is plausible
@@CynicPlacebo yeah... i pretty much learned coding and other stuff to make sure this post by OP was real or fake... and i can confirm... there is a file with line of code in the game files that its not accessible in the official release of the game... so like you said there is a high chance that its true but sadly unless i get a developer copy of the game to my hands i cant confirm this... :(... i even tried sending a email to EA asking for a chance to check it if they still had one but they never got in touch or replied to me... this was 4 years ago :(...
@@bassgrudge1602 sometimes you can find pre-builds on abandonware sites or archive dot org. Might be worth looking. It's hard though, as tech companies don't often preserve those RC builds, as they are almost never useful in the long run. We just use them as a way to debug and test before going to a final build.
Thank you for spreading the word about Alice and not letting such a masterpiece be forgotten. It might contribute to the series being somehow continued. I hope I’ll see a new game inspired by it in my lifetime
Yeah, I definitely want the younger generation of gamers to know about this game. It is such an amazing game! The first one from 2000 was also amazing, in its own right.
Fingers crossed someone takes up the mantle and manages to make a phenomenal new installment in the series, despite the MANY hurdles EA is putting in the way :-/
Ugh we need more games like this.
100%
The devs who made this really cared about the story and the design, and it shows throughout the game!
manages to get the dlc working on the steam version, alongside the Alice 1 port. was suprised at how easy it was to fix :D
Yeah, it isn't too bad. I did a video on that and even made it run at 144fps, which was fun. I don't make Alice 1 live alongside Alice 2 though, as launching it from Alice 2 just adds extra time and RAM usage that is unnecessary, since the Alice 1 launcher works fine on its own. th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
This game deserves a remaster
100% but EA doesn't seem interested in the franchise, unfortunately.
I think our best hope is an Unreal 5 fan project.
What a tragedy we didn't get more of this
There's still a faint glimmer of hope... but it will require some dedicated and skillful fans to take the reigns, as American McGee is too scared of EA
I am just listening and admiring how the dresses and the character look stunning. Looking past the nut bar that she is, Alice has a beautiful design.
They did amazing with the character design, and the dresses are equally awesome. I always love when you can feel that the devs/artists weren't rushed and they put some extra love into it :-D
love this game a lot jus wish some of the chapters were a little shorter
I love this game so much! I can understand that point of view. A few levels do get a little tedious, but I just enjoy the world so much that I don't mind playing around in it, even when it's a little slow (like the Octopus hide and seek)
Hattress is the coolest
I can't pick. Too many amazing ones! I love that none feel like half-effort. All are bangers!
I remember playing the older version of this back when I was 15 or 18. Maybe even 13 😂 Now I'm playing this version and to this day, I'm still obssessed eveb years has passed 😂 Its a beautiful game. I want another one 😢😢
Yeah, I played it back in 2010 when it was new, and I've loved it ever since! Such a fantastic game with amazing art, puzzles, and story!
So sad EA screwed McGee out of Alice Asylum :-(
These go so hard in design what
They really do! I love it :-D
I want a dress up game in this style
This game came out just a little after that was a popular thing to spin off as a flash game, unfortunately. That'd be fun though.
In the mean time, if you want to see both fronts and backs of the dresses (like if you wanted to draw them from a diff angle or do cosplay of one), I did make a 360 view video: th-cam.com/video/jyFz-QhltSE/w-d-xo.html
I love the Strangeness and Gothic creepiness of this games story and art, Parts made me laugh, Cry, And well Acid Trip.
Yeah, it really is excellent and sends you through the emotional gamut! One of my all-time fave games!
I played this game recently!!
Such a good one! I've been meaning to replay it, but life is just busy. It's definitely one I like to revisit though :-D
Alice Madness Returns and the original Alice game are legit some of the most artistic video games ever
I freaking love Alice
No argument here! Masterpieces!
@CynicPlacebo I hope McGee finds another publisher for Alice Asylum because fuck EA
@@sirouskaramian-s4s you know the best thing about EA? Because they exist, they make Ubisoft not look so bad :P
Haha, yeah, EA really went full villain here.
@@CynicPlacebo I guess you're right
I wish someday 'alice madness returns' is on the PS5❤😊
That would be cool... but at this point it might be easiest to pick up a PS3 and keep it as an alternate console XD
It's been 3 years since 2020 when i first played American Mcgee Alice and Alice madness returns on ps3
Such a good game! Glad you got a chance to play it.
Did you play the first game with the HD Mod?
If not, I recommend a revisit, as it does make it run a lot smoother on new machines: www.nexusmods.com/americanmcgeesalice/mods/1
Ugh. I need Alice Asylum so bad
I feel ya. We're all jones-ing pretty bad :-/
So pretty all of them
Definitely! The artists did a fantastic job!
Im not a big fan of games thst have skins with perks and stuff unless they let me wear it without the perks, like some look great but have a drawback that i dont want to deal with
Yeah, I tend to avoid DLC whenever I can. I like owning my games too (which is why GOG is my fave game store). I wish Alice was on GOG (either the original or Madness Returns).
I also understand not wanting the drawbacks of some of the dresses. My favorite is the caterpillar dress, just because it helps me not miss any secret little nooks or crannies in the game :-D
yea i feel the same, i love the outfits but i dont wanna give myself an advantage/disadvantage 😅
@@scrappy2082 sure, I just like using them after I've played the game for varied re-play
I don't know what makes me hate EA the most, what they did to PopCap or what they did to this franchise.
Yeah. It'd be nice if they'd take a break from being villains :-/
They should make a doll of this!…
Surely they have, right?
If not, EA is really dropping the ball with their IP
I just did a drawing of Alice from this game! I really wish we could at least know the storyline behind asylum…
You can see some of it in the design bible they made. They really had a lot of the outlining done. All the more reason it's so sad EA squashed it :-(
archive.org/details/alice-asylum-design-bible-feb-2023-v-1.1_202310/mode/1up
@@CynicPlacebo I will have to look at the design bible! Thank you friend!
Awesome outfits
This game does have excellent character design and wardrobe!
If you watch a 360 view, I did that video here: th-cam.com/video/jyFz-QhltSE/w-d-xo.html
what a fashion icon
This whole franchise has such amazing design, from clothing to buildings it is a visual masterpiece!
how did you get the other dresses??
I made a guide here: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
Note, there is 1 extra step in the text of the video description though (it's hard to keep these videos up-to-date)
Would it be possible for you to do a 360 of chesire ?? I know this post was months ago but im trying to recreate her dress irl and can't find super clear pics of it all around.
Yeah, I can't right at the moment, but should be able to get to it tomorrow
@CynicPlacebo omg thank you so much that's so unbelievably helpful it's hard to find good quality full pics online
@@sadsprt-501 ok, I got it recorded, but I still need to get a decent thumbnail so it doesn't bomb on my channel, lol.
I'll release it tomorrow morning (like 11 hours and 20 min from now, as that will give me time to make a thumbnail, but I gotta get some other stuff done before bed tonight)
@@sadsprt-501 here is the new video with all the dresses front and back, including the Cheshire dress: th-cam.com/video/jyFz-QhltSE/w-d-xo.html
@@CynicPlacebo thank you so much!
How do you get the dresses that aren't apart of the actual game from steam? Do you have to buy them or is there a DLC thing you have to buy?
You used to be able to buy them, but now the only way is to manually edit the config file.
I have a guide here, but beware there is an extra step in the video description that some users have to do for it to work: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
How do you get the dlc dresses on the Xbox 360?
Unfortunately I don't think there is a way to force it unless you have a modded Xbox 360 (which is quite rare). You have to have purchased the DLC or bought the "complete edition" of the game that included them unlocked initially.
To force it requires editing an INI file, and there is just no way to do that with an unmodded Xbox 360 (that I know of).
I had no idea the dresses did different things! Ive played this game so many times and ive never noticed 😅😅
Only the DLC dresses have abilities. If the level dresses you up in a specific dress, it's just cosmetic and there are no abilities associated with it. But if you equip it from the DLC menu, then the abilities apply
@CynicPlacebo Thank you for the useful info! I will definitely be doing this my next playthrough
@@rottie7883 awesome! I do have a guide for how to configure things here, if you need some guidance. Unfortunately it does have 1 step I had to add into the video description to keep it up to date, so that 1 step isn't in the video itself
th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
@@CynicPlacebo I will definitely check it out! Thanks man 😁
I really want a remaster or another game of this
Well if we both put it on our christmas lists, and we're both really good, maybe we can get it from Santa.
...alternately, we could all write naughty letters to EA until they relent XD
She looks like Amy Lee from Evanescence
definitely has a similar vibe. Obviously she is based on the previous game from 2000, but Evanescence was around by then, so it is possible that influenced the first Alice game
I loveeeeeeee alice maddness reaturns i love it so much❤
Me too! Such an amazing game!
My friend Valentine Gaming has been replaying it, and I've enjoyed re-watching it. She's also a huge fan!
th-cam.com/video/wp4_5i9Z6-I/w-d-xo.html
Absolutely miss playing this game
Such a good game. I'm so sad EA squashed the Asylum sequel :-(
I heard the game is long, is this true? Also how do you collect all the dresses? Is it a tough game to beat? I'm learning more about it
It's a medium sized game. If you just booked through it, you could probably knock it out in about 12 hours. If you want to find all the hidden hog snouts, collect all the memories, and get a bunch of teeth to buy all the upgrades, then you are looking at more like 24 hours probably.
You can choose your difficulty. If you just want to experience the world and puzzles, easy mode is the way to go. It isn't so easy that it will be boring, but the enemies won't kill you very often. Normal mode you will die a few times, especially to bosses, but it still feels pretty fair. It also lets you switch on the fly, so I'd go with Hard, see how it feels, and then you can always bump it down if it feels too hard. The puzzles are the same in all modes though, and the puzzles are excellent, so you'll get that experience in any mode.
If you play the original game though, the difficulty is much harder, so be warned!
@@CynicPlacebo thank you for being kind enough to answer all my questions. You are awesome. I appreciate you
@@WonderwomanFitness haha, no prob. Happy to help 😀
P.S. Alice Madness Returns is on sale right now on Steam for 1.99 right now, if you don't have it yet.
I’ll never forgive EA for taking this treasure away 😢
And rightly so. EA deserves all our wrath! 😕
How do you get the other dresses like the Cheshire cat dress, caterpillar dress and the other cool ones?
EDIT: I am playing on XBOX and i have also completed the game
What will downloading the content do?
Unfortunately, I don't believe you can get these on Xbox anymore as the DLC is no longer offered.
In theory, if you could edit the INI file on the Xbox, it should work... but you'd have to have a hacked Xbox that allows you to edit files.
Not really feasible. So this is limited to PC gamers, sorry
You can still get the dlc :)
@@darielitou3739 on Xbox 360? Is it still in the store there?
I've documented how to do it on Steam & EA, but it'd be cool if it was possible on xbox too.
Sadly i dont think it's possible on ps3 as the playstore has been closed 😭😭 Theses dresses are absolutely amazing I'm so sad about it lol
@@yelenskareads might be worth investing in snagging a PC copy. They are usually $9.99, and it's nice to have it available on another device (in case the console breaks one day)
This game was good... I actually loved the first one though.
I agree! I remember when the 1st one came out, I didn't have a PC that could play it, but I sure wanted to. Then many years later I finally played it. Fantastic!
@@CynicPlacebo Yeah I loved that version of the story over the Disney version 😂.
the cheshire dress is my favorite
That is a great one. I really like the design!
And here i am finishing the game without even knowing the skins abilities
They don't make it very clear in the game. You have to go into the "equip" section of the main menu or you'll never see it.
It is a fun way to add some replayability. I like to play with the Caterpillar dress on to make sure I don't miss any hidden little secret somewhere :-D
Ive replayed this game start to finish a million times. I have SO MANY TEETH its in the thousands at this point
Nice! I think I've only start-to-finish played it 3 times, but I've been hankering to play it again soon :-D
I just purchased this game yesterday, i hope I enjoy it 🙏🏻‼️
Ooh! I'm so excited for you! It's got great story-telling & art! Level & charavyer design is also amazing. Combat is just ok.
@@CynicPlacebo oooo wow! I’m happy to hear that! ^_^ is there anything I need to know b4 I play?
@@Dollyfever possibly 2 things:
1) if does cover some dark topics, including abuse, so be warned (nothing graphic, just sensitive topics)
2) if you wanna enable the DLC, or tweak some settings, you can follow my guide: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
@@CynicPlacebo ah okay perfect! I’ll look into it, thank you! 🫶
Oh! And another thing I wanted to ask real quick. I’ve heard there is a first game called “American mcgees Alice” but i don’t see it in my main screen ):
Just got the game for a dollar on Steam!!
Awesome! I definitely tried to spread the word on social media that it was cheap and people should snap up this masterpiece while they can!
If you are interested in getting these other dresses, I have a guide to unlock them here: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
There is 1 step not in the video, and instead it is in the video description (hard to keep things accurate when EA changes stuff)
My favorite combo was the Cheshire suit and the nightmare hobby horse ❤❤
Nice! The Cheshire suit also looks really awesome :-D
How do you get the extra dresses? I never seen the others past chapter 5
I have a guide to unlock the dresses here, but there was a change, so 1 extra step is in the text of the video description: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
@@CynicPlacebo thank you!
Can you play this game on a laptop? Or does it have to be PC? I really wanna play but it’s not on ps4 :/
It'll play fine on a laptop. It came out in 2010, so as long ad your laptop is newer than about 2015, it should run awesome.
It won't play on a chromebook though (not without streaming from a desktop)
Shame that we are never gonna see Alice asylum I hope one day we get 3rd game
Yeah, so disheartening that EA blocked things to hard. I bet if he built is as DLC inside of Sim 4, then EA would be cool with it :P
They certainly don't seem to take good care of their intellectual property.
@@CynicPlacebo yeah
I think i will give this game a chance
As long as you like 3D platform adventures and light-to-medium horror, you won't regret it :-D
It's one of my favorite games, so I think everyone should play it at least once
how do you unlock all the dresses and weapons??
I cover that in this video, but there is an extra step I had to add to the video description. It isn't needed for everyone, but seems to help for most people: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
I like the queen of hearts one
Definitely an excellent design! So hard to choose a fave for me
Wait how did you get all of those!?😮
I made a guide here. It is slightly outdated, so there is 1 extra step in the text of the video description to make it work
th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
@CynicPlacebo thank you 😁
what do i do to have these dresses?
The full video linked in the descrip shows the steps.
Here's a link: th-cam.com/video/z2gXKSPHKMc/w-d-xo.html
This is my favorite game ever. I just come back to gameplay it again in nightmare mode again. If u don't play it im nightmare it doesn't make sense cuz nightmare is still ezzy. I bet em to make a harder level with no violets anywhere on the map or just a some of em
It is a fantastic game! I usually don't play in nightmare mode, because I just like to poke around and explore the corners and see if there is some tidbit I've missed :-D
But yeah, the combat in this game isn't very hard, so I get it.
I just love the art design.
Have you tried Alice 1 with Overkill on? That mod adds a bit of a challenge. It's also bundled with the HD stuff, so I always recommend that people use this mod when playing the first game: www.nexusmods.com/americanmcgeesalice/mods/1
@@CynicPlacebo thx i go check it out
Asylum should be released , and I know it will
I hope you're right... I'd love it if you had any insight to share as to why you are so confident :-)
Who ever designed these fits Ateee fr
They did an excellent job! Even back in the first Alice game from 2000, the art was phenomenal, and the character design, and even just some of the walls and textures.
Definitely a franchise where artists got to really express themselves :-D
I need to download this so I can watch without service. 😅❤🎉
Haha, sounds like a plan!
If you like Alice's dresses, I do a 360 degree view of each one in this video: th-cam.com/video/jyFz-QhltSE/w-d-xo.html
That flesh maiden one is very necronomicon soul edge... yeesh
It is a bit creepy, but I also absolutely love the look of it :-D
Necronomicon is the perfect description, haha
@@CynicPlaceboit's one of the coolest for sure very well designed, this game looks awesome I'm shocked I just now saw it in 2024...
@@Brian-ti7xm American McGee's Alice was huge when I was in High School, so when Madness Returns came out in 2011, it was a big deal for a lot of us Alice fans.
I definitely try to spread the word about these games, as they are both still excellent. The combat is so-so, and the first game's platforming is a little iffy, but other than that, absolute masterpieces.
If you are playing Alice1, I do recommend using the 2020 HD mod (that's what I did on my last playthrough on the channel) www.nexusmods.com/americanmcgeesalice/mods/1
Amo ese juego ❤
A mi tambien me encanta ese juego! Es uno de mis favoritos. Lo jugue initialmente en el Xbox 360, pero me agradesco que esta en el PC tambien para que lo puedo preservar :-D
How do u even get all of them?
As long as you are on Steam or EA, you can follow these steps: th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
Alice in wonderland! with a twist!
This is so true, if you dont know what you are doing, instead of a wonderland its gonna be madness! or assylum!!!
Haha... I wish I could turn it into Asylum by some action on my part :-D
theres a cesire?
Yes :-D
If you are playing on PC (either Steam or EA) you can unlock it and other dresses by following the steps in this video (and 1 extra step in the vid description): th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
@@CynicPlacebo ah, im on xbox 1
@@Comically_Funny_Baseball_Cap I heard someone say they still sell the DLC on Xbox One, but I haven't confirmed myself. If they do, that's how you'd get the Cheshire dress.
Any else saw sukuna or is it just Me?
Which dress did you think was like Sukuna? Fleshmaiden?
i love alice
Me too :-D
One of my fave franchises!
i wish j had a ps3 so i can play this. its my all time favorite
It goes on sale on Steam & EA every now and then. I think it's worth getting a PC copy so it'll last for many more years to come :-D
...or, I've seen some used PS3's for reasonable prices. Maybe it's time to snag one, haha
Can I be honest she looks like if you took Wednesday and put her in Alice in wonderland there that's my part I've said it
There was definitely influence there.
I think maybe more influence from Lydia in Beetlejuice.
American McGee's Alice came out in 2000, and the reboot of Addam's Family from the early 90s was still a big part of the culture, as was Beetlejuice (especially given the cartoon reboot in the 90s). I'm sure Alice's design had those influences.
That said, for 2000, the pagan symbols on Alice were really pushing the envelope, and her features were much more angular than Wednesday or Lydia.
@@CynicPlacebo how did you know I like Beetlejuice as well
Flesh maiden is my main dress. Also... I didnt know the weapons had perks....
Flesh maiden is amazing. I love its creepy design, and love being able to berserk through with hysteria :-D
Yeah, you can actually change the power and stats of weapons in the config files too, so you can experiment with your own custom levels of power and special abilities.
Man I didn’t have all these dresses and I’ve finished the game whaaat
They were hidden by a "DLC" paywall initially, but the files are in the game and can be unlocked with this guide I made:
th-cam.com/video/44wNpn7zSe8/w-d-xo.html
Note: there is an extra step in the video description (as it's hard to keep a video up-to-date when things change slightly on EA's end)
shame we wont get Part 3
A freaking tragedy!
I'll never forgive EA for this one 😕
I loved this game! nothing to do with that pure and innocent Alice from Disney! I'm Sorry but my knowledge of English is Very limited!
Very different than the Disney version, for sure!
Your English was great! Well done!
Si habla espanol, puedo entender esto tambien. Vivia en Chile de 2002 a 2004. No hablo perfecto, pero entiendo bastante. Su nombre parecia latino, asi que quisiera avisarle
not a skimpy in sight. take notes modders.
lol, I know there are dress mods out there, but I haven't checked them out. You could probably find what you're looking for though
Great game, thought the dresses were very cool too. Only issue I do have is some of the levels are a bit too long making the combat repetitive and boring at times.
Yeah, the combat is the achilles heel of Alice MR, for sure.
I don't mind the length, as long as there is good story telling and puzzles, but yeah a bunch of enemies in a row doesn't really add a lot in this game.
You change her dress at will? I started playing and suddenly her dress changed wgen i got into the next area.
There are areas where she is supposed to have specific dresses, but after you've beaten the game, the DLC setting lets you wear any dress on any level.