Murray Gell-Mann - Begrudgingly signing my name to a paper with Feynman (80/200)

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  • @DarkMagician903
    @DarkMagician903 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Rest in peace Murray, so glad to have this interview with such a great mind

  • @HotPepperLala
    @HotPepperLala 5 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    I'll save everyone from reading the comments. it is basically "Feyman is famous and popular, therefore anyone who speaks critical of him (even if factual) is wrong"

    • @HalfassDIY
      @HalfassDIY ปีที่แล้ว +3

      none of the others dwell on G-M’s narcissism or personal habits or attempt to belittle his achievements

    • @shiddy.
      @shiddy. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I get the feeling they liked each other but he couldn't help talk about the weird part of Feynman ... we can all assume Feynman wouldn't have taken any offense at all at describing his weird habits
      think about it, if one of us got familiar enough with Feynman to experience that side of him, we'd talk about it too
      I think Feynman was fascinating and the weird things about him are part of the awesome ... he would approve

  • @PatrickLeeRyan
    @PatrickLeeRyan 6 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This should sometimes be called War Stories of Remarkable People

  • @Don.Challenger
    @Don.Challenger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    People are going to be people no matter their natural talents or learnt intelligence. Some folks you might not want on a friendly basis. Nice thing about this very wonderful series Web of Stories is you can find another side of the story in many cases (see the Freeman Dyson one for comparison here). Yes, their personalities become evident and we can be sympathetic to that realization. But if you and I together talked of our lives and those we interacted with what would our impressions of each other be after a few hours at it?

  • @us-Bahn
    @us-Bahn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Murry wears 2 watches. Maybe with opposite spin?

    • @nevertheless123
      @nevertheless123 ปีที่แล้ว

      ROFL comment made my day

    • @impCaesarAug
      @impCaesarAug 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      One is vector, the other is axial vector.

  • @kinkysoulqwerty
    @kinkysoulqwerty 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I somehow sense that Prof Gell Mann's way of expressing himself - punctuations, emphasis, and excitement have some resemblance with those of Prof. Feynman. I think he adores Feynman or at least was influenced by him in a very deep way ... just doesn't express it so much ....

    • @alaanejjar705
      @alaanejjar705 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. It might also be the other way around haha

  • @Studentofgosset
    @Studentofgosset 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Feynman starts writing a paper on something MGM also thought of, so MGM starts writing a paper too on the same thing. A third party suggests two people in the same department trying to publish two identical papers wouldn't look good. So MGM adds some things to Feynman's paper that he isn't proud of because he hadn't carefully thought it out enough. And somehow this was all Feynman's fault...

    • @EGarrett01
      @EGarrett01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Because MGM had thought of it first and already mentioned it in something he had written.

  • @dougg1075
    @dougg1075 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    He HATED Feynman’s type A personality. He’s mentioned it in other interviews. He seems like a cool guy though.

    • @craigwall9536
      @craigwall9536 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Gell-Mann has his non-fans as well.

  • @herrwarum5969
    @herrwarum5969 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    and so on and so forth...

  • @NothingMaster
    @NothingMaster 5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    The clash of the egos. Still, it is truly lamentable when Gell-Mann tries to actively trash Feynman.

  • @michaelgonzalez9058
    @michaelgonzalez9058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is collaboration that makes a quarke

  • @MyBittersweetTravels
    @MyBittersweetTravels 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This whole interview is this guy bashing Yang and Feynman, and claiming to have come up with their ideas first just never getting around to putting them on paper.

  • @michaelgonzalez9058
    @michaelgonzalez9058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The pios is also a vector

  • @gibbogle
    @gibbogle ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Talk about strange interaction ...

  • @imranq9241
    @imranq9241 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I respect Murray Gell Mann, but this interview is so strange that he talks this way about a late colleague. I hope he changed later in life.

  • @jangeertbruggink5044
    @jangeertbruggink5044 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    70% of this total interview is this guy shitting on Richard Feynman😂

  • @thegames-bd6mh
    @thegames-bd6mh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sounds more like this guy's projecting his insecurities about himself on feynman

  • @gregodify
    @gregodify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @0:48 Why is he wearing two watches?

    • @shroomskaiev
      @shroomskaiev 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He has close relatives overseas and does not want to let's say call them in the middle of the night ?

    • @vilandes
      @vilandes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Insurance in case one stops

    • @bogdanyer
      @bogdanyer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Obviously he stole one from Feynman

    • @ray.shoesmith
      @ray.shoesmith ปีที่แล้ว +1

      One spins in the opposite direction

  • @michaelgonzalez9058
    @michaelgonzalez9058 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is a two component atom

  • @micheleguerrini6514
    @micheleguerrini6514 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OH MYY GOOODDD!!

  • @Avicenna10
    @Avicenna10 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Murray, you shouldn’t have given in so easily. Every time Dick wanted to do a paper with me, I had to tell him , now Dick, you need to go and do your own work. Quit trying to ride on my coattails and stealing my ideas! (And then, I woke up...) :-)

  • @andrewrivera4029
    @andrewrivera4029 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Not many physicists come off as pompous azzes but...

  • @jc03571
    @jc03571 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy is a lesson in how someone can simultaneously be brilliant and small minded at the same time. I can’t imagine a more annoying person to have in a nearby office

  • @shovon9412
    @shovon9412 6 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    By the looks of it gell-man's heart seems to be as small as the elementary particles he studies and his ego the size of the observable universe

    • @td866
      @td866 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      so true! with an open mind i've watched videos of feynman and gell-mann. gell mann seems like proper egotistical, envious twat!

    • @eastwestcoastkid
      @eastwestcoastkid 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      shovon one of Feynman’s students George Zweig, implied as much .. He discovered Aces which were equivalent to quarks..

  • @throwaway692
    @throwaway692 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unusual to see jealousy in an intellect of this caliber. And you're basically accusing Feynman of plagiarism.

  • @TheSmkngun
    @TheSmkngun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    What a jealous, negative and pompous person Gell-Mann was! Zero humility. The interviews with Freeman-Dyson, Feynman, Hans Bethe on the other hand are so much more pleasant to watch.

    • @thesceptic1018
      @thesceptic1018 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      none of the others dwell on G-M’s narcissism or personal habits or attempt to belittle his achievements

  • @petenrita
    @petenrita ปีที่แล้ว

    Outside of Physuxs and science, MGM is unknown. Feynman became a cultural phenomenon. MGM could not handle it.

  • @kaatnikaatni9012
    @kaatnikaatni9012 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    He was always jealous of Feynman popularity and just couldn't get why Feynman shone and he remained in shadow.

    • @grahamblack1961
      @grahamblack1961 8 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      In what sense did he remain in the shadow, Gell-Mann is one of the most famous and revered physicists of the 20th century.

    • @Studentofgosset
      @Studentofgosset 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Being famous and revered doesn't mean you don't get jealous about specific things, depends on the character.

    • @BLUEGENE13
      @BLUEGENE13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      gellman simply isn't jealous of feynman, he's correctly calling out Feynman as having earned much of his fame as having put on a character to impress, and that is undoubtedly at least half of what Feynman did. You're just a Feynman fan boy, that can't bear to hear the truth. As well, gell-mann has over and over given his thunder to others, and actively rejected popularity. He correctly characterizes the people he has talked about including feynman. He reacts like a normal professor would, to see your colleague put on a show for attention and popularity screams narcissism. Any normal person should see that.

    • @BLUEGENE13
      @BLUEGENE13 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do any of you actually know about what Feynman was actually like. Stealing the wifes of his graduate students and colleagues. He was a scoundrel and he even admits it.

    • @BLUEGENE13
      @BLUEGENE13 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      your comment isn't relevant, we ARE talking about his personal life in combination with his fame and how it relates to murray. That's nice that you appreciate his work, we don't care

  • @paxsreekantan3639
    @paxsreekantan3639 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    😏

  • @bernardliu8526
    @bernardliu8526 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why is this dude so full of hubris ? Never heard of him before.

  • @critical_analysis
    @critical_analysis ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Have there been any realtime applications for these theories? These fellows have so much arrogance that they have temerity to belittle giants like Einstein, Heisenberg, so on.
    These particle physicists have wet dreams ...

    • @Random-rs9bl
      @Random-rs9bl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      😂😂😂😂