26:40 You have to shoutout that one time xnova was the only one on stage for RNG and the crowd was just chanting his name as he gave the exit interview
It's absolutely insane that PGL don't allow teams to register substitution players. I can think of no competitive team sport that doesn't allow teams to have secondary or even third pick players to play when first team players are unable to make a match due to injury or whatever the reason is. It is the simplest solution to the problem that PGL themselves have created and I just don't understand why they don't implement it.
The problem with Dota teams is that it used to be a complete wild west with rosters. Teams will just randomly drop and add players whenever they felt like it. Valve and PGL got really strict over subs because teams would just register with a five player roster then on the day show up with one or two new guys as "subs" then after the tournament they announce that those subs are now officially part of the team. It was a mess and some players get unceremoniously kicked right before major tournaments. These days, random stacks of five players are rare and this is less of a problem now, but the rules were there for a reason.
Oh, there's also the issue of teams just disbanding right after losing the qualifiers for a tournament then two or three of them sign up as "subs" for the qualified teams to participate anyway. For what it's worth, I disagree with this strictness. Teams should be allowed to register with one exclusive sub player and additional one sub/coach role. But this does lead to the issue of successful teams with more resources being more able to compete than the less successful teams. There is a tradeoff for things.
@@HAHA4625 Yeah that's fair enough. However, with lessons learned and a myriad of other sports to take inspiration from, do you agree that it's wild this is a problem only in Dota? When I followed Rocket League, subs / stand-ins were absolutely not an issue.
As someone who doesn't like Ceb, PGL not making an exception for him is just a bad move. Child birth isn't just a "special occasion", it's quite literally a life or death situation where complications can arise that put both the mother and child's lives at risk. It's also a process that can also take way longer than people think.
It's not like he's the one giving birth or the medical person doing the procedure. Of course any dad want to be there in the hospital but it's not as a matter of life or death as you're framing it. The best that PGL can do is fix the rules or stick to the rules for now since if they break it, they will also be criticized. Damn if you do, damn if you don't.
@@chaiteatime6232 his wife and child are at risk of complication/death, just because HE isn't at risk himself, it means it doesn't matter? You've clearly never had someone close to you put in an emergency situation if that's what you believe. If PGL are going to have criticism either way, then why not just give him the time off?
I feel like it would be good to arrange for stand-ins before a tournament, give a list maximum 1 stand-in per position of players you want to stand-in, that way you can have more stand-ins without picking and choosing.
The easy fix to protecting players from being unfairly kicked and replaced is that substitutions aren't restricted, but that every player on the original roster needs to OK the sub.
Didn't Sneyking actively incite people against OG though with that whole 1Win fiasco? He even involved his girlfriend or something from all the talk lmao
To be fair, sometimes companies will not wait for damning evidence to separate from a partner with an issue. I just feel like twitch settling a civil case that never became criminal is pretty clear evidence that it was twitch that made the mistake.
I don't know dude, when the company Dr D co-founded says they're proceeding believing Dr. D is innocent and investigating the situation, then later cut ties with him, it seems kinda damning
@@FlintMcroy That's true, but they might just cut ties to be safe. I haven't studied the case so I only know what everyone knows and to me it seems like at the time they backed him they weren't risking anything because the reason was unknown. Suddenly someone credible enough to cause headlines pops up with a hearsay tweet stating that the reason is potentially criminal. Now the company is risking a lot more if they back him up. So it's easier to just cut ties even though they don't actually have more evidence than before. A tweet is just a rumor.
@@FlintMcroy not really, many companies have released partners just because there's just a potential to look bad, i.e. spacy, assange, etc. Plus Soliciting sex from a minor is a big crime, it would have been illegal for twitch not to file a comlaint, and from what I've seen, you don't need a victim for crimnes targeting minors, hence child preds going to jail from feds posing as children.
@@FlintMcroy I can only go with what I know is fact and the fact is twitch banned doc for sexting with a minor, doc sued twitch, twitch admitted they were wrong and settled.
In my opinion, if you think a rule is flawed or just bad, it should just never be enforced, if we can collectively agree that the rule is dumb, there shouldn't be any support for the rule ever being enforced, because it's giving PGL a reason to think that their ruleset wasn't the issue, when it was.
If you've actually listened to what Synderen said, this rule might have been placed because they're avoiding the fact that players can get screwed by being replaced midway. If anything, OG is getting the karma from what they did with Era back when they were still Fnatic. The rule that got placed because of them bit them back.
I don't understand how twitch banned him. He sued them . They paid the contract. But now there is evidence he did something on the platform that found nothing
What do I not understand about the Banana game? Isn't the only way to earn money by someone buying these items? Are there people spending any money on this? Am I crazy? Or are those people crazy? What the...
The twitch user was advertising that if u sell out a venue . He would tell every one why dr disrespect got banned. But u guys don't bring it up. Bc u have a one way news source
According to sunsfan hooking someone from a screen and half away which u cant react to if u dont know its cming is "butter smooth" Classic abuser shedding tears
If Whisper was meant to be a private messaging system and "employees" or whoever could read messages in clear text, it's probably not admissible in court, but still actionable on the low down.
7.36c is very underwhelming, and it is part of a trend. I'm genuinely concerned about this sort of half-baked approach to balancing the game. It's not just awful for Immortal matchmaking. The lower you go the bigger the standard deviation and so the bigger the outliers.
What trend? Are we going to ignore the gigantic changes made to the game in the past two years, pick out some small patches then call them the "trend"? I'm in the top 5% percentile rank and I can give 0 shite about these small changes. Vast majority of players just don't care and rightfully so, they just play for the fun of it and adapt to changes if needed, except for maybe the top 0.5% players. I'm personally just happy to get new events and big changes as long as the balancing is not way out of whack. And even if it is, it would be changed soon anyway.
A company firing someone is "damning" evidence? really? "This the classic thing of the victim not wanting to go public". How do you know this? Just like you get upset at people for not taking it at face value, you are making the same mistake by assuming something that you don't actually know. The ex twitch employee was also promoting tickets to his show because he wanted to tell what actually happened according to him. I'm not defending either side here, I'm just saying, what you guys say is "damning" is ridiculous. I lost respect for both of you, not that you care about my respect with that type of mentality, but still.
Sunsfan always has been a bit woke regardless how decent his content is. He always came off to me as a leftist. I mean it is what it is. Its a classic case of content vs content creator. I always watch him for the content, not for his world views since they don't align with someone like you and me for example.
@@house1406 I love how people find a way to make it about something else entirely. My comment had everything to do about what they considered "damning evidence". Not about whether or not dr. disprespect actually did those things or not. edit: so to answer your question. No I didn't lose respect towards him because it didn't exist in the first place. This was all made up in your head, and you're the one that decided to say "i hope you lost respect" as some sort of pedestal for your ego, making sure that other people think that you have some sort of virtue that others don't.
@@house1406 nope, nothing has changed. his statement was clear about how he is a different man than those times and he apologized years ago and his family accepted him. people throwing p word loosely around and afraid to admit he is not what media is trying to portray him as now. we all know they wouldn't try to cancel him if he was woke. he will come back one day and most of his fans will still watch him. and haters will cry. I'm a true fan of his character and nobody can change my mind.
26:40 You have to shoutout that one time xnova was the only one on stage for RNG and the crowd was just chanting his name as he gave the exit interview
It's absolutely insane that PGL don't allow teams to register substitution players. I can think of no competitive team sport that doesn't allow teams to have secondary or even third pick players to play when first team players are unable to make a match due to injury or whatever the reason is. It is the simplest solution to the problem that PGL themselves have created and I just don't understand why they don't implement it.
Yup. Every team sport allows subs.
The problem with Dota teams is that it used to be a complete wild west with rosters. Teams will just randomly drop and add players whenever they felt like it.
Valve and PGL got really strict over subs because teams would just register with a five player roster then on the day show up with one or two new guys as "subs" then after the tournament they announce that those subs are now officially part of the team. It was a mess and some players get unceremoniously kicked right before major tournaments.
These days, random stacks of five players are rare and this is less of a problem now, but the rules were there for a reason.
Oh, there's also the issue of teams just disbanding right after losing the qualifiers for a tournament then two or three of them sign up as "subs" for the qualified teams to participate anyway. For what it's worth, I disagree with this strictness. Teams should be allowed to register with one exclusive sub player and additional one sub/coach role.
But this does lead to the issue of successful teams with more resources being more able to compete than the less successful teams.
There is a tradeoff for things.
@@HAHA4625 Yeah that's fair enough. However, with lessons learned and a myriad of other sports to take inspiration from, do you agree that it's wild this is a problem only in Dota? When I followed Rocket League, subs / stand-ins were absolutely not an issue.
@@omg1tsGriff teams that do this kick/subbing thing will not do well. You need a consistent roster to play together.
As someone who doesn't like Ceb, PGL not making an exception for him is just a bad move. Child birth isn't just a "special occasion", it's quite literally a life or death situation where complications can arise that put both the mother and child's lives at risk. It's also a process that can also take way longer than people think.
It's not like he's the one giving birth or the medical person doing the procedure. Of course any dad want to be there in the hospital but it's not as a matter of life or death as you're framing it. The best that PGL can do is fix the rules or stick to the rules for now since if they break it, they will also be criticized. Damn if you do, damn if you don't.
@@chaiteatime6232 his wife and child are at risk of complication/death, just because HE isn't at risk himself, it means it doesn't matter? You've clearly never had someone close to you put in an emergency situation if that's what you believe. If PGL are going to have criticism either way, then why not just give him the time off?
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Synd forgot to say "SUBSCRIBE" in the end.
Sunsfan's Nostalgia Emotion just got added to his brain panel!
Love you guys! Great conversation always! Best caster duo vibes.
1:18:55 "... meanwhile I'm stuck with you here" XD
Thank you guys for making these! Love your work ❤
I feel like it would be good to arrange for stand-ins before a tournament, give a list maximum 1 stand-in per position of players you want to stand-in, that way you can have more stand-ins without picking and choosing.
interesting part about all the elder pros not qualifying this year. do you have any idea why that happens this year, any connection with the patch?
came here expecting an interview with BSJ
they should make the clok hook facet let him target ground, that would be fun
The easy fix to protecting players from being unfairly kicked and replaced is that substitutions aren't restricted, but that every player on the original roster needs to OK the sub.
TF2 has a rate of around 80% Bot Accounts to 20% player accounts. So it is not really a Top 10 game.
Teams with subs would be interesting to the scene, I hope it would bring in more players and expand the professional landscape.
Did someone say banana? *clicking on the video.*
I will miss the old era of TI😢
Saging Saba.
Didn't Sneyking actively incite people against OG though with that whole 1Win fiasco? He even involved his girlfriend or something from all the talk lmao
0:14 for get name show😅
I’m sad that synderyn didn’t say subscribe at the end
deadlock is definitely closer to dota than counter strike. the guns are essentially dota’s auto attacks.
In Germany, you can just leave with a sicknote from the doc. Americans and their anti-human laws...
PGL are Romanian.
? How does this have anything to do with dota
PGL is located in Romania btw.
@@lucasredmond9778 Wife giving birth and not being able to leave without DQ,
@@KainLustt Even worse.
To be fair, sometimes companies will not wait for damning evidence to separate from a partner with an issue. I just feel like twitch settling a civil case that never became criminal is pretty clear evidence that it was twitch that made the mistake.
I don't know dude, when the company Dr D co-founded says they're proceeding believing Dr. D is innocent and investigating the situation, then later cut ties with him, it seems kinda damning
@@FlintMcroy That's true, but they might just cut ties to be safe. I haven't studied the case so I only know what everyone knows and to me it seems like at the time they backed him they weren't risking anything because the reason was unknown. Suddenly someone credible enough to cause headlines pops up with a hearsay tweet stating that the reason is potentially criminal. Now the company is risking a lot more if they back him up. So it's easier to just cut ties even though they don't actually have more evidence than before. A tweet is just a rumor.
@@FlintMcroy not really, many companies have released partners just because there's just a potential to look bad, i.e. spacy, assange, etc.
Plus Soliciting sex from a minor is a big crime, it would have been illegal for twitch not to file a comlaint, and from what I've seen, you don't need a victim for crimnes targeting minors, hence child preds going to jail from feds posing as children.
@@FlintMcroy I can only go with what I know is fact and the fact is twitch banned doc for sexting with a minor, doc sued twitch, twitch admitted they were wrong and settled.
be a good person woohoo best podcast
Synderen wrong for sure. Biggest nerf of the patch is tinker. My man got dumpstered, even arcane blink nerf was targeted at tinker
fuck that hero.. he needs a techies rework
Good. Tinker players be damned
I love it when a hero is rendered completely not viable because I'm a 2k player afraid of smurfs.
58:56 it's a lucky shot Sunsfan! If you consistently did it again, you're a cheater! hahaha
quake 1 was the goat for me and kingpin
Synderen forgetting Ame made it to TI
Deadrop was ultra garbage already, nothing of value was lost.
In my opinion, if you think a rule is flawed or just bad, it should just never be enforced, if we can collectively agree that the rule is dumb, there shouldn't be any support for the rule ever being enforced, because it's giving PGL a reason to think that their ruleset wasn't the issue, when it was.
If you've actually listened to what Synderen said, this rule might have been placed because they're avoiding the fact that players can get screwed by being replaced midway. If anything, OG is getting the karma from what they did with Era back when they were still Fnatic. The rule that got placed because of them bit them back.
No “SUBSCRIBE” in the end?!
I don't understand how twitch banned him. He sued them . They paid the contract. But now there is evidence he did something on the platform that found nothing
Just don't get Barkley started on who is down in San Antonio
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Was kinda hoping Sunsfan would destroy Kyrie Irving more during the NBA segment
who's buying $1000 banana cosmetics?
im fast af boi
What do I not understand about the Banana game?
Isn't the only way to earn money by someone buying these items? Are there people spending any money on this?
Am I crazy? Or are those people crazy? What the...
It is a speculative market. Very similar to NFT (the valuation not the technology)
The twitch user was advertising that if u sell out a venue . He would tell every one why dr disrespect got banned. But u guys don't bring it up. Bc u have a one way news source
this, like many other podcasts, are minimal effort. What are you expecting?
According to sunsfan hooking someone from a screen and half away which u cant react to if u dont know its cming is "butter smooth" Classic abuser shedding tears
Im waiting for the reddit thread to hate on synd like the hated on sneyking
the dr disrecpect situation really seems like he communicated with a minor but the language wasnt enough to find him guilty
If Whisper was meant to be a private messaging system and "employees" or whoever could read messages in clear text, it's probably not admissible in court, but still actionable on the low down.
7.36c is very underwhelming, and it is part of a trend. I'm genuinely concerned about this sort of half-baked approach to balancing the game. It's not just awful for Immortal matchmaking. The lower you go the bigger the standard deviation and so the bigger the outliers.
What trend? Are we going to ignore the gigantic changes made to the game in the past two years, pick out some small patches then call them the "trend"? I'm in the top 5% percentile rank and I can give 0 shite about these small changes. Vast majority of players just don't care and rightfully so, they just play for the fun of it and adapt to changes if needed, except for maybe the top 0.5% players. I'm personally just happy to get new events and big changes as long as the balancing is not way out of whack. And even if it is, it would be changed soon anyway.
@@hoamanh7638 Even the "gigantic" changes have been ill conceived. The bigger map and economy STILL havent had their first tuning pass.
A company firing someone is "damning" evidence? really? "This the classic thing of the victim not wanting to go public". How do you know this? Just like you get upset at people for not taking it at face value, you are making the same mistake by assuming something that you don't actually know. The ex twitch employee was also promoting tickets to his show because he wanted to tell what actually happened according to him. I'm not defending either side here, I'm just saying, what you guys say is "damning" is ridiculous. I lost respect for both of you, not that you care about my respect with that type of mentality, but still.
Sunsfan always has been a bit woke regardless how decent his content is. He always came off to me as a leftist. I mean it is what it is. Its a classic case of content vs content creator. I always watch him for the content, not for his world views since they don't align with someone like you and me for example.
Dr disrespect himself admitted to all of it in a response cope harder, he's a fucking chomo
hope you lost respect for drdisrespect after he admitted for messaging inappropriately with a minor
@@house1406 I love how people find a way to make it about something else entirely. My comment had everything to do about what they considered "damning evidence". Not about whether or not dr. disprespect actually did those things or not.
edit: so to answer your question. No I didn't lose respect towards him because it didn't exist in the first place. This was all made up in your head, and you're the one that decided to say "i hope you lost respect" as some sort of pedestal for your ego, making sure that other people think that you have some sort of virtue that others don't.
@@house1406 nope, nothing has changed. his statement was clear about how he is a different man than those times and he apologized years ago and his family accepted him. people throwing p word loosely around and afraid to admit he is not what media is trying to portray him as now. we all know they wouldn't try to cancel him if he was woke. he will come back one day and most of his fans will still watch him. and haters will cry. I'm a true fan of his character and nobody can change my mind.
They day Sunsfan and Sederen gets canceled on allegations and no evidence. Is gonna be a funny one