The Detrans Perspective - A Conversation With A Survivor (James Esses & Ritchie Herron)
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- “One of the reasons I transitioned is because I didn’t want to be a gay man,” Richie Herron tells James Esses. We were honoured to have Richie at our Conference. His unflinching honesty provides much needed insights into how internalised homophobia and a failing healthcare system can impact on the life of a gay man.
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Richie is great, so is James. I had surgery seven years ago, numerous revisions to fix something I told was “one of their best” I’m not trans anymore but living with chronic UTIs and damaged kidneys. It even hurts to walk sometimes. Dealing with a mistake I made as a 22 year old for the rest of my life sometimes seems unbearable.
So sorry to hear. I know that in my industry (therapy) we have been silenced on doing anything (here in the U.S.) besides affirming and supporting anyone who says they might be trans; no questions must be asked. This is sheer madness and the medical and therapy industries need to wake up and realize we're doing harm by our participation in this social contagion.
My heart goes out to u
I am so sorry you have gone through that. I hope that things improve for you.♥️
I'm very sorry for what you have to go through. Keep speaking up
Thank you for sharing, it’s so important that we raise our voices about our experiences especially in the hopes to help others learn from our lives. I dealt with Body dysmorphia, bipolar and ptsd by doing serious body modifications at a young age. Even though it wasn’t about my gender, I was compelled to do these permanent changes to my body. 10 years on, I’m a completely different person but I have these modifications all over me that can’t be hidden and it affects my day-to-day life. The fall out isn’t painful for me physically but it compromised my immune system. Even though we’ve been through different things, I just want to encourage you on your journey. There’s something special about every person, we each have an inner beauty that can radiate out to bring joy and healing to others and ourselves. We each have unique talents and ways we can bless others. There is so much beauty around us, sometimes it’s those who’ve experienced the most pain and heartache that can share compassion with others, feel deeply and appreciate the wonder of beauty in nature. We have so much strength not only to have survived but to share our stories. I hope you have a great day, sending love to you ❤
I’m so sorry for that poor man. Those people who did this to him should be held accountable
No one is held accountable for anything anymore 😢
If anyone is on a hero’s journey it’s Richie. My heart aches for you, you didn’t choose this path freely. But somehow, you are walking it with grace and determination as a model for all of us that have had a tragedy in our lives and must move forward despite our suffering. You’re young. I hope time will make your grief and pain fade as much as is possible. I wish you happiness, and love. And peace. And I thank you for your clear headed bravery.
@@psychette8846 so it's ok to harm someone that is mentally ill? You're sounding quite fascist
Such a lovely, articulate, compassionate, brave young man. The charming accent doesn't hurt. Keep up the good work, Ritchie 💕
My heart goes out to this poor young man whose life has been irrevocably changed by over zealous medics in the cult. Thank you Ritchie for your brave stance in speaking out about this horror. I hope your pain is being well managed and that you can have a happy and fulfilling life
A very brave and also endearing man, i hope he goes from strength to strength.
As a young teen I also wanted to be a woman and wished that I could take a pill or get a surgery to become. One of the main reasons was because I didn't want to be gay. Insane how for a mental disorder the first treatment doctors are now pursuing is permanent surgeries, and not mental treatment. I had trauma, and mental issues, but they would've pushed me to transition today.
Does it cross the minds of gay folks that homosexuality is not in fact innate? I’m not saying that to be combative but that those who have same sex attraction may not remain that way? I wonder if locking people into homosexuality by claiming it cannot change is part of the problem. So many people don’t want to be gay. Surely there is a reason for this beyond some embarrassment or social shame?
I doubt it. I’m also only hearing one side of Ritchie’s story and everyone else’s story who detransitioned. Many many people who took hormones and had surgery had a happy life. Many people also just took hormones and didn’t want surgery. I’m positive if Ritchie had a successful surgery he would not be speaking about this. The main theme from all these detransitioners is, “It doesn’t work. It was botched.”
@@jimmorrison4ever529 It doesn't work because it cannot possibly work. You can't change sex. The fairytale that changing your name, clothes and hormones will fix all your problems is a false promise.
The main take away is that Ritchie wasn’t treated for his OCD and other psychological conditions. He also didn’t want to be gay so he was lead down the transition path by so-called experts. He’s not saying others can’t be happy transitioning, but he is saying there is an affirmation approach to everyone instead of tackling the underlying issues. The tragedy is he was butchered, but even more tragic is that he isn’t allowed to tell his story by some people because they blame him for making a mistake and that he wasn’t really “trans”. His point is that he was told by the experts that he is the perfect candidate to transition. In other words, there are many ways to be a man and many ways to be a woman without trying to change your sex and becoming a “stereotype”. My heart breaks for Ritchie because the docs lead him down the wrong path. If it happened to him, you know it’s happening to many others.
This conversation needs to be repeated, nationally and daily until these things never happen to anyone ever again. I feel so angry.
And it's only getting worse.... the trans stuff is transforming our country and our language. There's always hope but it's going to go to hell.
Absolutely!!!!
If people like Richie’s voices can be heard alongside ‘gender identity experts’ at the UN or anywhere else, I’m sure it would have a huge effect. Hearing from a man who regrets bottom surgery would be powerful, as it’s something other men would have quite a visceral response to.
“I feel like I’m being punished.” When he’s talking about dilating. I’ve see. Many MANY videos of trans women saying dilating is exhausting and painful. What the fuck are they doing to people
Torturing them.. And Medically experimenting on Gay & Gender confused young people (and Children too)
I watched a video on an American psychotherapist discussing this topic and he said something that struck me because I’d never thought of it like this before. He said vulnerable people have had this surgery and it creates a wound that will literally never heal. It’s prevented from healing and that wound is capitalised on by predators. That wound reflects internal wounds that never heal, but only compound. Here is a link to the conversation: th-cam.com/video/-t5u3QZlFy8/w-d-xo.html&themeRefresh=1
Dr John Ulher has worked as a clinician with many sexual predators and psychopath. It would be fascinating to hear a discussion between Ritchie and Dr John because there’s a lot of overlap especially regarding grooming, manipulation and the role of sexual predators preying on vulnerable people in this matter.
3:35 - "I am assertive and confident..." Now THAT made me smile. I find it amazing he reached that place in his life with what he has been through. So happy for him.
Thankyou Richie and thanks to you all for showing him your love.
Well done Ritchie, and James. 👏
Great to hear working class voices in this situation .Great to see the LGB Alliance going from strength to strength.
Agree 100%. This whole ideology is a ruling class-to-make-hundreds of--BILLIONS of dollars no matter the carnage. This insanity is one of a combination that reminds me exactly of the casualties of WAR---which is the working class only and never the rich. And criminals of that class are never prosecuted since they write and uphold the law for themselves.
My god, Ritchie has been through so much, this is horrific. 😔 I am so incredibly sorry you're still living this pain daily, Ritchie. You are a beautiful young man, so articulate and intelligent....you speaking up can only help others to not go through this horror. 💖
What hell he went through.
I listened to this lovely man before.. he very articulate and witty.. I can't imagine how brave he has to be.. to talk openly about what happened to him.. what a hero
It's simple. I see Richie, I click.
As a straight guy this is utterly horrifying, to go to solve mental health and the only option you are given is to "cut it off"
Harold Shipman levels of malpractice....😤😤
LGBA are doing a great job during these traumatic times. Good Luck to you 👍🏻
Such a good speaker and such an important topic. Horrifying. Every time I hear his story and those like his I’m filled with anger, shock, and sadness, much like his interviewer said.
These are the voices we need to hear. Gays and lesbians need to unite and stand strong lest this conversion therapy butchery continue.
Gays, lesbians and bi: united with parents, and with anybody with a sense of decency and compassion.
Richie, you are a hero to us. I wish you weren't. I wish you had never had to go through this. And yet, you are one of the heavyweights that will tip this nightmare out of the dark and into the light. I wish you the absolute best. Peace and joy to you!
At what point did 'affirming' become so negligent? Some of what Richie said was so disturbing and horrifying. I want to know who the hell these therapists and psychiatrists are, but I know few of them will ever be held accountable. 🤬
There are many therapists who do not agree with nor go along with 'gender affirming care' despite laws in various states (in the US) that require we do so. In general, you can tell which therapists are buying into 'gender affirming care' by checking to see if they list their pronouns on their website - this tends to be a sign of which direction they are leaning (or how much fear they have to speak up). There are still clinicians out there who ask the hard questions instead of simply buying into social crazes. Richie is right: grad schools for therapists in the US do not provide anywhere near the level of training that should be required on this issue. Arguably, it is outside of the scope of mental health providers to speak to ANY medical issues because we are not medical providers. Why would we be involved in any way on giving the green light for such radical and life altering surgeries and never ending medical problems?
I've seen the harm of this first hand. I fear it's only going to get worse if public opinion doesn't change. Men like Richie are the Rosa Parks of their day and they may not even know it yet.
What an outstanding session! The strength of these destransitioners telling their stories publicly amidst all the hate they receive from their former TQ+ "community" , the trans-industrial complex, trans demands activists, & their defenders is TRULY stunning & they are TRULY brave. Mad props to James Esses, too, for his principled stand & the price he has paid. When Richie said what this industry was doing to people was "criminal," I jumped up & applauded! I join in the standing ovation at the end!
100 % agree
Ritchie, this isn't the first time I've heard your story or heard you speak, but I want to thank you again for being so brave and strong, and for talking openly about the horrific experiences you've had. I wish you all the best in taking this fight to the heart of the cult and being part of the winning team. You are amazing - keep up the good work (and thanks to the LGB Alliance for having you on)
Thank you LGB Alliance for having this annual conference! I am so grateful for your organization and LGB Alliance USA. My gay male community is being destroyed by awful fake gender identity ideology. And thank you for the detransitioner fighting to protect gay (gay men and lesbians) adults too. All opposite sex imitation treatments must be banned for both adults and minors. It is so awful that so many gay men stay silent when they know this is wrong what is happening to my community.
Please always speak out for the rest of your life Ritchie. Your unique experience as both a male Detransitioner and a normal, out gay male is extremely important.
'Gay-induced, opposite-sex envy' (Envy) is naturally experienced to varying degrees by all Gays. It is a unique experience to us and it is being hidden by us Gays and psychological associations. The Envy is not being managed.
Thank you for this talk. Richie is a very unique being and we are fortunate to have him in our world. ❤
Ritchie's comments about regret 34:00 are bang on the money. Also, the comment/question from the woman from Spain at the end is so important and I'm glad that she was given time to articulate it.
“Don’t play by their Rules, cos Yr Not Gonna win. We need to make a New Game” - Perfectly put Ritchie!
I love Ritchie - he is always a brilliant interviewee. I hope he finds peace, he deserves it x
I did not realize that a vaginoplasty cannot just be left alone and allowed to close up.
17:32 "I wasn't writing the assessments. I wasn't holding the scalpel."
These mental health "professionals" were educated for years, gained their accreditation, were legitimised as experts, were trusted to treat some of the most vulnerable people in society, those with mental health issues that impair their own judgement * - These professionals in positions of absolute power over the patient are supposed to be trusted to treat the actual mental health issues the patient is presenting with. Instead, it was politicsed, and a new "identity" category was created, and instead of doing their job and doing their duty by the patient, the experts slap this new identity label on this person who may have any other number of underlying issues that are causing their dysphoria. They medicalise the patient, give hormones and surgery, like that is an appropriate treatment, while ignoring the other issues, like Richie's OCD was ignored. This is an astounding dereliction of duty, an absolute betrayal of the patient by the professional/expert.
* Even people without mental health issues would believe a mental health professional who diagnosed them and prescribed a particular treatment!! How are people who are highly vulnerable supposed to advocate for themselves in the face of that power imbalance?
Really powerful interview, thank you to everyone concerned and especially James and Ritchie.
Amazing - thanks to all involved.
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There's no other medical treatment, where those who have been failed - get told to shut up & treated like this.
“It is criminal. That’s what it is.”
I feel bad for him
Well done Ritchie, you did brilliant. I’m so pleased it went well and you represent hope. I’m sobbing!
I actually didn't mind the woman from Spain speaking b/c the point she made was SO important & I didn't know about some of these changes with the WHO. We really need to point out the inconsistencies in this chaotic movement, esp. the issue of saying it's not a problem, but governments should pay for doctors to "fix" this "non-problem!" "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire
Ritchie is so loveable! ❤
Thank you Richie! You're such a brave young man! Stay strong and remember a lot of us care about you!
I'm so sorry Richie that our society did this to you. You are showing the strength that we lacked. Don't disbelieve you are great, and I'm sorry we didn't rise up to meet you.
He's right about not forgetting adults who are harmed. If a doctor misdiagnoses you and lops off your leg for no reason, are you not allowed to sue them if you're over 18? Is there no such thing as medical malpractice if the patient is over 18? There's a special tragedy to it if it's a kid, but damn, if I go to the doctor and I get something amputated for what turns out to be a made-up illness that the doctor is ideologically subscribed to, that's evil and unjust no matter the patient's age.
Richie is incredibly brave and well spoken.
‘There’s a reason Brighton’s down south’ 🙂😂😆 oh, Ritchie, you’re a gem 💖 xxx
I'm from the the North East of England, not far from where Ritchie lives and I can confirm he's right on that. It's getting better but it's still way behind places like Brighton and London. I wonder where he's from originally coz he says he's from a former mining town, same as me, but all the search results just say he's from Newcastle. That tends to happen a lot, people just use the nearest big city. I just have a feeling I know him, or know people in common with him, he's the exact same age as me aswell.
Love Richie.
So powerful! Articulate, charming, brave. Both of you!
I've watched a lot of videos on the trans movement and this is the first one that brought me to tears
People keep talking about the low regret rates 🙄 when that study was done it was not a trend, a cult. I'd like to see another study 15 years into the future, even 5 years. I mean just from the start of this year I have seen countless regret stories here on TH-cam.. and not even half the people going through this this has a channel or a platform or feel like they can be as brave as Richie. I can't say how much I appreciate it, You are more stunning and brave to me than anyone who feeds into the ideology that pulled you in and left you in so much pain and suffering 💔
Richie you are not lost, don't feel alone and keep your passion. You are on track to help the change and its SO important. The only way this will or can stop is with you and others speaking up. Your body is only a temple (when you talk about confidence) your soul is brave and beautiful but it su€ks you are left in so much pain in that temple, its not fair. 💔
Yes Ritchie! Your story is so important and must be shared. Thank you, what a strong man you are.
Richie I am so sorry you’ve gone through all of this. It is infuriating and heartbreaking. You are a remarkable human being, thank you for being so open about all this. Wishing you healing in this difficult journey ❤️🩹 much love.
Richie has a huge courageous heart.
Thank you Richie for telling us the truth ❤️
Richie, I rushed home to see the end of this! You're my new favourite person in this battle!
Thankyou for your insight Richie. I agree what they've done to you is CRIMINAL. I so hope you heal 💞. Thanks James for the interview so glad someone like you is on the right side of this IDEOLOGY ❤
Ritchie is such a brave soul❤
This is such an important discussion and should be compulsory viewing for ALL SURGEONS ,COUNCELLORS ,THERAPISTS ,SCHOOL TEACHERS, GP,S, AND ...... KIDS WITH SO CALLED GENDER DYSPHORIA .
thank goodness these mutilated young people are now feeling supported to speak and angry.
This is going to unfold like a horror show and will prove to be the biggest and most tragic medical scandal of the 21st century
I love you Richie, you are amazing!!!!! so very courageous and brutality honest. This world needs you, please, please keep speaking up for our lost souls so they can find the way home.
People need to realize that experts are actually very limited in what they truly are "expert" in.
“I’m assertive and confident” yes man! you become angry and you get over it … someone needs to hear this
There is evil in this world.
Unfortunately, it often takes horrific things for people to wake up and realize evil exists.
This poor dear person was attacked by an evil force.
Evil searches for people in weakened states, innocent ones.
We must all fight against these monsters.
The only way they stop is when. we stop them from attacking humanity and our souls.
Thank you for posting this incredible interview.❤
Thank you James for all you stand for. Richie.. same as everyone has said .. you inspire us all. i cried most all of the way through this interview. Your brutal honesty is vital and will affect so many that STILL don’t know what’s going on. Best, best love to you xx M
30:38 - "....Don't know who or what to trust any more". That goes for all of us, because the schools are conniving behind parents backs, you cannot send your children to school and TRUST that the people messing with their heads are doing the right thing. It is a horrible place to be as a parent. Apparently, also doctors cannot be trusted either. I will NEVER go to a therapist for ANYTHING for as long as I live. And I will counsel anyone who mentions it to me to do the same.
@@yorkietot5810 And if they say "Who's reality?" Then leave the room.
Richie Herron is Awesome , future spokes person and leader for sure, incredible self awareness , intelligent , articulate and funny !!!!
Ritchie, you are so brave. My heart breaks for you and for all the other young people irreversibly harmed by this awful ideology. We’ll hear more of these stories over the coming years, unfortunately
Wishing you happiness, health and peace Ritchie. Respect to both you and James for your great courage.
Richie has grown so much as a young man. I saw his early videos and he seemed so timid, now he’s so much stronger. Im so sorry this happened, but so glad to see him so much stronger.
Excellent and extremely important points from the Spanish lady at the end. The WHO has been captured.
Love your work, Ritchie and James. Big thank you for raising the alarm and for educating me.
7:05 This whole section Richie says right here. Wow.
It is very true that when doctors start telling you about health issues that one tends to believe them and succumb to the pressure.
Correct. Becoming an adult is on an age spectrum under ideal conditions---meaning no comorbid mental health issues--and that is IMO only around 25/26 as a median number. Horrific that this is being done to humans, whether or not they understand the consequences is not only up to adult understanding if they are being purposefully LIED to.
We love you Richie
Wow you’re a powerful speaker 🔈
This should be shown at the next Labour Party conference.
He needed to go through terrible way to realize the simple truth, SEX/GENDER IS NOT CHANGABLE.
You born male, you remain male,
You born female, you remain female.
Thankful to GOD, that this soul, finally do realized the TRUTH and now having boldness to share TRUTH WITH OTHERS.
Good for him. May he keep doing so, sharing truth to those who still are without.
Whoa. We're sorry for letting you, and all others down. Richie. Bless you. Keep strong.
What a brilliant interview which moved me to tears. Congratulations to both both James and Ritchie and for LGB alliance for hosting it. I am so concerned by the silencing of the debate . I just heard about the social worker who was disciplined ed by her employers and Social Work England for having Gender Critical views on her social media. Shame on them both. The social worker is now suing both of the corrupt organisations. Let’s hope she wins
So powerful!
Bravo! Well done.
Love you Ritchie ❤
🖤🙏🏻
Yes! I’m happy for LGB separating yourselves from TQ and all the rest after that.
Don’t let them drag you down with them when this ship sinks like the lobotomy did. And it will be worse since they involved kids in this.
And please separate yourselves from drag kids and drag Queens that are in the let’s promote this to children. That is all a disaster waiting to happen.
If I could get my hands around the necks of the evil people who did this to you believe me it would not end well. I have a son and if anyone did to him what has been done to you my inner tiger mother would erupt. For a medical person to even think of doing this when they have signed the hypocritical oath is sick. I cannot hope you will get better but I do hope something can eventually be done to make your situation better. Xx
This guy is amazing. It takes a lot of courage to do what he's doing. Just want to leave a bit of love to him here and say thank you for the ones you are helping. The problem is the 'gender' therapist. One needs a family system/constellation therapist to see where this is coming from. This is never an isolated case, so as Ritchie says, "It needs a holistic approach."
Richie is brilliant on 'regret'.
All the patients lying and making up stories to make things move quicker need to listen very carefully to this.
Amazing 🙏🏼🙌🏻
YAyyyyyy Ritchie !!!
Yr Fukking Awesome !!
Luv Ya! From Wiltshire!💜☮️
The last lady’s question 😭
YES ! 👆👆👆
At last some truth well done to you Ritchie. Keep up the fight.
Ritchie has a Substack - TullipR Detrans Man.
God bless him
@LGB ALLIANCE - it might be helpful to put both James' and Richie's name in the title. I was searching for this interview but couldn't find it (Mr Menno directed me here)
Done 😉
I'm proud of Ritchie & others like him. Words can't really describe the kind of bravery it takes to lay it bare like this. Both sides coming at you, the anti crew with their 'I told you so sentiments' & the trans cult trying to bully you out of existence. I know there must be many suffering in silence.
This has to stop or be seriously restricted or curtailed. Ritchie is right it is criminal & we must push for accountability.
Love!
20:53 I actually love Richie
24:23
The root of the issue is greed. Those who benefit at the source in abusing a vulnerability that is rooted in lack of self love. What teenager likes the changes occurring in their body? I don't know of any. Those exploiting this are people who turn this perfectly natural experience of life called puberty into a flaw to fix or even claim to help kids avoid it (which is false because they're simply swapping for the opposite sex puberty issues instead). For instance, many FTM I've talked to will feel the need to go to a warehouse where the entry fee is 10$. They're given a stick upon entering so they can release anger by beating on old equipment that is left there for this purpose. They're injecting very high doses of testosterone (much higher than what they natural body would ever produce) and then left on their own to deal with the agressive behavior that comes with it. No one ever mentioned the psychological changes that occur. It's propaganda for profit. There is no real support to identify where the disphoria is coming from, which at the root may stem from lack of self-love. That's not my interpretation, it's what detransitioners have told me. Just the word detransition is misleading as well. They can rarely return to their original state and most have acquired added complications. Why do we have to understand the potential consequences of most intrusive surgeries and sign a consent form that states that we understand what dangers are possible for most medical interventions while when it comes to changing gender, children can make these decisions and hide it from their parents? It's greed $$$. That's what's pushing this agenda and ideology. Taking advantage of a vulnerability is psychopathic. I've heard health professionals use different approaches to sound convincing. One is about preventing suicide. Most of us have gone through our puberty and are still here today. Others will say "would you rather have a straight transgender child or a gay child? Some parents would rather transition their child rather than have a gay child. Horrible but it does happen. There is worse, sit down for this one. Some health care practitioners have a twisted fantasy of grandiosity and power which they affirm by removing genitalia and the possibility of procreation in their victims. Yes, someone has admitted to this. My point is that the agenda (whatever the root) is about abuse. Period. Leave the kids alone, let them live the normal stages of puberty as their species intended. Stop bringing politics into a crucial time of their life experience. This is the generation who will care for you when you're older.... think about it. What connection of trust are you feeding into?
My heart breaks for Richie💔
'stunning and brave'