If I remember correctly, EA's poor excuse for the lack of scoreboard was because they thought that players seeing their "bad score" would be discouraging for them to play the game. This was EA's way of trying to make the BF game "for all audiences", which by no surprise, was not a good move.
This “everyone is a winner” that devs try to put in nowadays will never make me play against anyone online. Annoys me that lots of multiplayer devs think that doing this will get people like me to play online instead of just putting a separate mode with bots 😒
It's the only possible excuse, because they clearly had a kill feed and experience system (undoubtedly tied to objectives and or kills/assists) and all the score board would do is track and display the outputs of that. Could literally be done in less than a day, bar quality UX design.
This comment really reminded me of that Back 4 Blood video where it turn out there are only 6 people from Left 4 Dead that do work in B4B despite the game being marketed as a spiritual successor with things such as "From the creators of Left 4 Dead".
@@itsarin2166 dont forget the calisto protocol thing where they said it was made by creators of deadspace and then the game was just...okay if it was 50% off
When Alana said Covid was the worst thing that happened to the game's industry, I was going to disagree, but I actually came around shortly after. That kind of sudden growth is actually terrible for big companies, because they're incapable of seeing it for what it is. They immediately set this anomaly as the new standard, and crumple when a temporary upshot turns out to be, well... Temporary.
Yep, all it does is create a lot of corporate bloat and inflated budgets that they then monetize even more aggressively to recoup costs. This is why we're still seeing layoffs from most game studios and will be for a while yet.
the battlefield 5 characters actually acted like they were in a war like if a grenade landed by your feet or you were being shot at or an enemy tank got too close your character would start hyperventilating and quietly sobbing to himself and when you bleed out your character cries his eyes out begging not to die in his native language but in battlefield 2042 when the world is in a worse state they talk like they are at laser tag
Yeah battlefield 1 and bf5 actually made you feel like you were in a war meanwhile in 2042 you run around with clones of yourself on both teams, while in bf1 5 and 4 faction and classes could easily be told apart from one another
I still dislike how EA disrespected the norwegian commando raid on the German heavy water facility that was used for Germany’s attempt at nuclear weapons and made it ONE WOMAN did it cause “muh woman power”. Edit: Only campaings I liked were the british one, the Senegalese Tirallieurs and the Last tiger
Interesting, in their effort to purge any kind of nazi imagery and ideas from their game, one of the best and most memorable war stories was The Last Tiger.
@@lolbuster01 Because no one in recent times have attempted a war story from the german perspective at the fall of Berlin and the Third reich. Also I think Muller may have survived given the gun fire heard before the black out was a Thompson and in the intro he is talking about his experience as a tank commander, but then again seems left to interpretation. Although theres a theory that the tank driver from BF3 in the campaign that ends up dying may be related to Müller along with the little toy dinosaur he has which appears in the last tiger as well.
Worse there are 100 0ther historical events that happen where Women was involved or the solo player. do we use any of them as a base (ether 100% accurate (as possible) or lose guidelines? nope lets take this event where a Norwegian commando raid sneaks in a nucular research base and turn it into something completely different.
I never understood the "it got better a year after release" Imagine if you bought a mouse and the scrollwheel didn't work for the first year of your purchase
Exactly, that's why I rarely get a game at release or pre-order unless its some limited edition stuff from a smaller company, outside of that I'll wait a good while before I grab a game, especially if its a single player one.
Yep, don't be a blind consumer. That's what this heartless corporations are banking on. Never forgive, never forget. (there are outliers, but they are few and far between)
The scoreboard issue is actually so much worse because they hosted an event with streamers to compete and see who can get more kills in 2042 (kills in Battlefield are just 1 of many ways to contribute to the team but I don't expect Dice to know that.) With no scoreboard, they needed staff to keep track of everyone's progress individually. That event also had two players stuck inside the geometry and had to pretend they didn't. I'm glad he's using the recorder version of the Battlefield theme, it legitimately sounds less grating than the official 2042 theme. It sounds like they recorded it using squeaky chairs dragged across pavement as instruments.
About QA testing: sadly, in most studios it has been reduced to the bare minimum. Nobody is hiring dedicated testers, they consider it a waste of money. They use the players themselves as testers, free of charge, so why should they pay people to test the game? Apparently, they don't care about the hit to their reputation or players leaving the game permanently. What little testing is done by the team, it's done not by testers, but by some of the developers themselves when there's some free time they aren't doing their main job, be it programming, 3D modeling or whatever.
@@jbktpl1245 there used to be a time when QA was part of the actuall company. at first the QA of let say EA was employed by EA sat in EA offices in some cases the room next over from the devs. then not sure when QA was outsources to pure QA companies so EA would Hire for example (name fictional because I know no QA companies) London game QA Brent. a company whit 120ish QA tester and many whit programing experience or understanding of code and such, you know the kind of peaple hat see a bug ones. goes okey I think I see where in the code this happen... does 3 more tests send a PM to the Programmers going found bug Here and a lot of programmer struff. then the QA companies got shafted whit the contracts so instead of hiring decent programmers and devs (all kinds of levels).. well they all got fired/laid off because the contract sum was so bad that the only way to fill the slots was by min wage workers and programmer would not work that kind of jobs whit thoes kind of conditions at that level. and then the C suit threw shit at QA turning QA from a where programmers in learning was to where Failed gamer joined in thinking it would lead them to actual game development in reality a dead end there are no senior QA there is no Programer QA rolls/rank/pay. so any actual dev that do join leaves quickly. then to add to it communication between QA and programmers/devs are none existence. meaning if a QA did find something they had no way to communicate it. Like I read a story that a Programer would go to a bar at the end of the day and if by chance he spotted a QA member been in the same bar they would sneckily against company policy get the QA reports on how thing was going. Remember QA used to sit next door whit a direct line to the programmers. also QA used to join in as soon as there was something to test, nowdays QA gets hired 1 week before launch. it takes a skilled QA dev a week to start to generate reports of use.
Tbh that clip of bezos maniacally laughing with robot arms is one of the most genuinely terrifying clips on the internet and I think about it constantly lol
Except McDonalds staff nowadays have better customer support and understanding than big studio development staff. Doesn't help when they're screaming off on Twitter
@@ARStudios2000 Once i went to mcdonalds, i ordered a burger that has bacon usually on it and the bun itself also has abit of bacon on it, but i ordered it on the board without staff and without bacon (i dont like the fast food soggy bacon) and before making the burger the chef came from the kitchen and asked me if i wanted the normal bun or the bun with bacon, that suprised me alot
19:40 - Battlefield: Bad Company 2 was in 2010, and for 7th gen consoles, too. The fact that the destruction physics in 2042 absolutely pales in comparison to the Bad Company spinoff series is inexcusable.
The reason why games with stupid high developer numbers suck is partly due to people not being allowed to do stuff. Like if someone wants to test a simple feature, like how a character model is supposed to react to damage. In a small studio they just test what they want that day, in a 9000+ studio they need to write a work order, send it to a resource manager, who then sends it to a tester, who writes a report, and sends it back through the chain 4 weeks later.
Going by the title... How can we keep saying a game these days is the biggest disappointment. We get constant big disappointments. End of the year we no longer have a GOTY ceremony. Instead we should have a Biggest Game Disappointment of the Year Award.
And *GOTY/Game Awards* are an industry problem from Triple AAA. When a selected few Game Journalist will sway the Publics opinion. Doesn't help that some *Categories* you can't even Vote for within their specified - Genre/Category they get *Nominated* for.
@@utarefson9 Bad Company 2 was the final nail in the coffin for me as well, I just had a feeling after that DICE would nosedive and they did, now I get it I do like BF3, but the webpage launcher for PC, the rocky launch, horrid hit detection ect..the game had a lot of problems and I am not sure if its because senior leads left or what but this is what's left now
Yeah, when the fan boat is the best aircraft in the game I think you have some serious bugs in your game. I understand that type of boat is essentially a fan powered sled but it shouldn’t completely defy gravity when it hits a building.
I’m still quite fond of Battlefield V for the fact they had the balls to have a Campaign from the perspective of a Late-War German Tiger tank crew. Especially in the landscape of media where German soldiers are always portrayed as the horrible supervillain Nazis and people don’t even know the German armed forces were a seperate organisation from the Nazi party and their own forces.
That had to have been a mistake considering "how am I supposed to talk to my daughter about women in ww2?" And the absolute butchering of the Heavy Water facility raid.
Separate organization? Technically yes Actively participating in the same genocidal aryan boys parties? Absolutely yes I encourage people to drop this silly narrative "Wehrmacht soldiers were largely innocent" created by a few surviving nazi generals and propagated by West Germany and her new allies to embellish their new army in times when Cold War was about to start
Its not the number of devs that makes it "too many cooks in the kitchen" the issue is that there is no cohesive leadership. There are two many cooks in the kitchen in the sense that non project leadership can make design decisions.
Yeah, Ubisoft be wildin' for a while with those prices and yeah that engine thing with EA was just brain dead, the fact they don't understand that not all games work well on the same engine just says a lot.
The guided rocket launcher works once then it breaks your camera. So one of the standard weapons of a base operator doesn't work, to this day it's still the same.
what really added salt to the wound and aged like milk was russiansbadgers video during the beta basically:"we've seen this before guys, it should be fine. don't be negative!" im like; really?
Yeah that was one of the few times I legitimately didn't like Badgers positivity at all. That kind of lack of giving a shit was exactly how we've got to this mess in the first place
just so you know, the guy who said the "brutal expectations" thing on twitter was Andy McNamara, former editor in chief of Game Informer who scooched off to EA without a shred of game dev experience.. gotta love that access media to game maker pipeline in action.. edit- to be fair though i think he just worked in community management at EA.. but then again that seems to be the exact same job he had as Game Informer EIC, "community management" for the AAA game companies
Imagine if other companies answered like gamedevs "Hey Boeing, your doors fall off!" Ugh, passengers have these brutal expectations, don't they know how hard it is to make a plane?
Do not preorder. Do not even buy at launch if (decent) reviewers and streamers didn't get review copies. We are not instant gratification monkeys, even if some of us think and act like we are, so there is no reason to behave like this. Be patient. Games are fun. But they are just games.
While i share your sentiment, most people have little to no self control. This is mostly due to FOMO that is one of bigger factors outside of people just being fanboys or gaming community as a whole being simply stupid.
Im convinced those running these companies are people who are hogging any money short term and care little about the actual company,staff, and products. Once they get their fill they parachute out of there with their ill gotten gains.
The last perfect Battlefield game was BF2 from 2005. The last good one was BF BC2 from 2010. Its franchise is long lost. Same goes for CoD - last perfect game we had was in 2012. Last good one in 2017. FPS-games were killed by greed, "micro"-transactions and SBMM...
Fun frog fact: You are always within 1 centi-meter of a group of frogs. The reason you can't see them, is because they're hiding in your skin, flesh, and bones. Let them out. Free them.
Are you the frog man? Do you always 🐸? Frog fact: "if you use a rubber hammer, they won't splatter all over your '67 Corvette. They sort of taste like chicken." Hey, I didn't say that. That's why it's in quotation marks.
I was excited to play this game because i like cod and other battlefield games but at the time i found out you needed internet to play it so when i got internet i got the game just to not be able to pass the title screen because you needed a subscription service to play too ( i don't like paying for those) so I was really disappointed especially to find out thier wasn't a campaign story
I tried it last year after friends begged me to play. The ui is absolute crap. Weapon customization menus are god-awful. The "classes" were terrible. The gameplay was... OK? But honestly, it was the awful menu navigation that pushed me away the most.
I remember someone saying more or less. Score boards show people stats. Stats can make people toxic, therefore they did not make the scoreboard to reduce/prevent toxicity. It's sad i can't tell if it was a joke or if that was the actual thing that happened.
Back in my youth; (Discs & Product-Keys, no DLC, MRX & Delayed releases. It came out when - Was Finished) Even Playable on-Launch; *Battlefield 1942* *Battlefield 2* *Battlefield 2042* A few years go by and we got *Mirrors edge* __________ Than they decided to make Battllefield 3. Than they no QA Testing happened. Oh boy! We weren't ready - Boys.
You have nostalgia googles on. Bf1942, 2 and 2042 were infamous for their terrible state at launch, and bf2 started the trend of delivering basic features like bots in patches after release.
34:46 alot of devs left in 2018 to create embark studios. i wonder what they made........... oh they created "the finals" that battleroyale game with tonnes of destructible environments.
Preorders are totally pointless with AAA games... all of them release unfinished and/or have gamebreaking bugs at launch... sometimes even console breaking. Just play games in the gamepass or buy them a year later in the Steam Summersale when all the bugs have been fixed and the games cost half the price with all addons/dlc included
@@TheVillainInGlasses Yeah, shit looked so cool, almost like the people behind battlefield actually tried to move abit forward, a natural progression of the previous games, rather then just make the same fucking game over and over again.
@@anelbegic2780 Oh man, I forgot about 2142. I -loved- 2142 a ton. Stomping around in the walkers. Calling down orbital strikes. Using pods to shoot up to the Titan airships... Now I'm sad.
Surprisingly i played cyberpunk day 1 on pc and the only real bugs i encountered in the first 20hrs was some car navigation issues. floating junk and some crafting issues. I haven’t seen any other bugs. I didnt ever come across graphical issues, crashes or anything else. Maybe it was just me but the game was fine
@@co98760 nah it was sooo bad that playstation had to do all refunds and close the game of the ps store itself for just how uneditable unsuitable for consumption that pice of rotten eggs milk was. And that neverd happend not even with fallout 76 and others of sush nature a like. It was a first. It really was that bad 💀
Absolutely dumpster fire, I decided to wait a full year and it still was busted for a few months after, it's fine now but there's still some things that were said to be in the game that they just lied about, I hate that people just forgave them after the dlc
No campaign, but that means finding out stairs are pit traps you fall into and can't get out of in multiplayer but can still shoot people somewhere on the map.
stat pages, scoreboards, and voice chat...hmmm, that *smacks lips* mmh, that tastes like, hmmmm, TF2, a game that came out in 2007. truly unreasonable demands for battlefield
Dice scraps the scoreboards, because they are toxic. They proudly said it themself (or EA said it). I think the same thing goes with chat, but I don't really remember.
As a live service, 2042 is already done. Dice themselves confirmed that there wont be any more seasons or content coming out and they'll just focus on maintenance and spin-off game modes. Had it launched in the state it is today, it might have seen a good lifecycle but by now, EA would rather spend their time preparing the next installment than trying to live up to the potential this game had. The only reason this game has players now is because of massive discounts they've given when buying the base game (i bought it for like 5 USD).
i bought it for 10$ on steam. I can't the specialist system I fucking hate it with a passion. I played maybe 2 matches before i uninstalled. I want the class system not a shitty ass specialist system
I understand but I'd say Big Boss actually does differ in some subtle ways compared to Internet Historian. Big Boss is less focused on internet history and more on organizational incompetence and corporate stupidity, and the way his stuff is a bit more fast paced compared to IH
This is why I still play Battlefield 4. You know, an 11 year old game. I am one of the Admins for a Hardcore Operation Metro 24/7 sever on PS4 if anyone is interested in playing it as well. We only ban people for consistent team killing and have NO weapon restrictions.
puncture organs with an airgun, probably not but that wont stop it from causing internal bleeding with the shockwave you need a sharp thing to stab and pucture but a shockwave just needs to go hard, to rupture organs
Greed, rushing things off and following trends.. thats what i think killed it.. they followed a trend and decided " well if its multiplayer we might take those cod players head on at launch!" Then rushed it off until the game was ... well this
Ok he mentioned about the hovercrafts in the game I witnessed one scalling a building and drove off and landed on another one to get on top of that one like what am I watching...
Man I remember seeing this game and getting really hyped at the sight that there was going to be WW2 and Modern Warfare in the same multiplayer server. The idea of having a modern loadout while being able hopping into a Tiger tank had me sold on the game, but then I bought the game was disappointed to see that only one team could play with the WW2 stuff while the other only had Modern stuff. I got CONNED!
I will still never forgive EA for pulling support from STARWARS Battlefront 2 when it was just starting to pop off for this shit show of a game, which, imo, had a worse launch and development than BF2 did, even w BF2s lootbox disaster.
I get the feeling that the "game as a live service" has crept into most companies mindsets (although luckily not all has joined in on this practic). One example, that comes to mind... that sadly still bothers me so far, has to be Payday 3. Battlefield 2042, was one of those games where I'm glad a friend of mine picked it up to test out for us both. (my computer at the time couldn't run it... and well, ptsd from service takes a hold every time some smuck throughs a grenade or explodes a vehicle...). I've been playing battlefield bad company 2 as my first battlefield game, then 3, 4, then the WW1/WW2 version... - skipped out on 5. - but 2042 oh my... I'm delighted now that I didn't delve into it.
In my opinion this was even more egregious than cyberpunk. They saw what happened with cyberpunk, they knew their game wasn't ready yet they still launched it
The game a bit better now but at what cost. Still missing a lot of stuff and still lacking compared to the other ones. I rebought it at a discount which is what id recommend if you do want to jump into it
I remember the sequel to games when i was 10 or a teen that the 2 game typically improved on everything from the first and more and now they make it worse than the first lol
BF2042 the CoD/OW hate child that no BF wanted.. As far as I am concerned Bf1 was the LASST one they actually made. Sadly BF is now dead. THANKS Ea and DICE!
Battlefield 2 was best Battlefield. Ah the memories of griefing friends from school as a sniper on Stike at Karkand cause my computer could render the max distance
This is the reason I play FromSoftware games. They are a little jank but FS publishes finished games (with only a few minor bugs) with good DLCs and they treat us fans well. and: 28:00 Fun fact: Scoreboards can be in deed quite trivial to implement if you have a good event-system in place. But if this is not the case, the implementation of scoreboards is a mess. I suspect the latter was the case with BF 2042.
at the time of this release, I had just finished building my first PC. I always loved playing BF4, and thought this would be somewhat similar. I'm so glad I didn't pre-order the game. I ended up just going back to OSRS with a overpowered PC
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If I remember correctly, EA's poor excuse for the lack of scoreboard was because they thought that players seeing their "bad score" would be discouraging for them to play the game. This was EA's way of trying to make the BF game "for all audiences", which by no surprise, was not a good move.
They did this with the new Modern Warfare games too, or at least the first one. Like I can't see my K/D ratio in TDM?!
This “everyone is a winner” that devs try to put in nowadays will never make me play against anyone online. Annoys me that lots of multiplayer devs think that doing this will get people like me to play online instead of just putting a separate mode with bots 😒
ah the mythical "wider audiences"
"modern audiences"
It's the only possible excuse, because they clearly had a kill feed and experience system (undoubtedly tied to objectives and or kills/assists) and all the score board would do is track and display the outputs of that. Could literally be done in less than a day, bar quality UX design.
Ad: "Made by the developers of [your favourite franchise.]".
Reality: only 3 people from the original team still remain.
And even those are relegated to the back of the class.
This comment really reminded me of that Back 4 Blood video where it turn out there are only 6 people from Left 4 Dead that do work in B4B despite the game being marketed as a spiritual successor with things such as "From the creators of Left 4 Dead".
@@itsarin2166 dont forget the calisto protocol thing where they said it was made by creators of deadspace and then the game was just...okay if it was 50% off
Ah...the outer worlds.
When Alana said Covid was the worst thing that happened to the game's industry, I was going to disagree, but I actually came around shortly after.
That kind of sudden growth is actually terrible for big companies, because they're incapable of seeing it for what it is. They immediately set this anomaly as the new standard, and crumple when a temporary upshot turns out to be, well... Temporary.
Yep, all it does is create a lot of corporate bloat and inflated budgets that they then monetize even more aggressively to recoup costs. This is why we're still seeing layoffs from most game studios and will be for a while yet.
Not just Covid, but the over reliance on micro transactions and Live Services as well.
You came after COVID??????
She need to hang around with kirshe a bit more, the worst thing happened to games is way back before covid , something Something Anita.
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the battlefield 5 characters actually acted like they were in a war like if a grenade landed by your feet or you were being shot at or an enemy tank got too close your character would start hyperventilating and quietly sobbing to himself and when you bleed out your character cries his eyes out begging not to die in his native language but in battlefield 2042 when the world is in a worse state they talk like they are at laser tag
Yeah, I love that in battlefield 5. They really nailed the character speaking the native tongue and reacting to the situation.
Yeah battlefield 1 and bf5 actually made you feel like you were in a war meanwhile in 2042 you run around with clones of yourself on both teams, while in bf1 5 and 4 faction and classes could easily be told apart from one another
It’s a matter of time before there’s one where you get shot and your character goes “ow! Haha good shot!” When you get lit up.
Even the older games in the Battlefield series like BF3 and 4 had the soldiers yelled while being pinned down or suppressed.
@@Shiftinggers And they were yelling meaningful things.
"BLYAT! GRANATAAAAA!!!"
"I'm gettin f'ed in the a** over here!!!"
I still dislike how EA disrespected the norwegian commando raid on the German heavy water facility that was used for Germany’s attempt at nuclear weapons and made it ONE WOMAN did it cause “muh woman power”.
Edit: Only campaings I liked were the british one, the Senegalese Tirallieurs and the Last tiger
Interesting, in their effort to purge any kind of nazi imagery and ideas from their game, one of the best and most memorable war stories was The Last Tiger.
@@lolbuster01 Because no one in recent times have attempted a war story from the german perspective at the fall of Berlin and the Third reich. Also I think Muller may have survived given the gun fire heard before the black out was a Thompson and in the intro he is talking about his experience as a tank commander, but then again seems left to interpretation. Although theres a theory that the tank driver from BF3 in the campaign that ends up dying may be related to Müller along with the little toy dinosaur he has which appears in the last tiger as well.
Worse there are 100 0ther historical events that happen where Women was involved or the solo player.
do we use any of them as a base (ether 100% accurate (as possible) or lose guidelines? nope lets take this event where a Norwegian commando raid sneaks in a nucular research base and turn it into something completely different.
I never understood the "it got better a year after release"
Imagine if you bought a mouse and the scrollwheel didn't work for the first year of your purchase
Exactly, that's why I rarely get a game at release or pre-order unless its some limited edition stuff from a smaller company, outside of that I'll wait a good while before I grab a game, especially if its a single player one.
People are dumb enough to buy games without looking through reviews. I don't know if it's because the hobby is shared with kids or what.
@@googletarded8300 Some people just don't think.
Yep, don't be a blind consumer. That's what this heartless corporations are banking on. Never forgive, never forget. (there are outliers, but they are few and far between)
Even better, what if you bought a car and it was unsafe to drive for the first year.
The scoreboard issue is actually so much worse because they hosted an event with streamers to compete and see who can get more kills in 2042 (kills in Battlefield are just 1 of many ways to contribute to the team but I don't expect Dice to know that.) With no scoreboard, they needed staff to keep track of everyone's progress individually. That event also had two players stuck inside the geometry and had to pretend they didn't.
I'm glad he's using the recorder version of the Battlefield theme, it legitimately sounds less grating than the official 2042 theme. It sounds like they recorded it using squeaky chairs dragged across pavement as instruments.
Funnily enough, I joined at the exact time the two people were stuck inside the stairs. The guy playing looked so uncomfortable lol
About QA testing: sadly, in most studios it has been reduced to the bare minimum.
Nobody is hiring dedicated testers, they consider it a waste of money. They use the players themselves as testers, free of charge, so why should they pay people to test the game? Apparently, they don't care about the hit to their reputation or players leaving the game permanently.
What little testing is done by the team, it's done not by testers, but by some of the developers themselves when there's some free time they aren't doing their main job, be it programming, 3D modeling or whatever.
I've even heard cases of companies ignoring tester feedback and releasing the game anyways because of their margins as well.
@@jbktpl1245 there used to be a time when QA was part of the actuall company.
at first the QA of let say EA was employed by EA sat in EA offices in some cases the room next over from the devs.
then not sure when QA was outsources to pure QA companies so EA would Hire for example (name fictional because I know no QA companies) London game QA Brent.
a company whit 120ish QA tester and many whit programing experience or understanding of code and such, you know the kind of peaple hat see a bug ones.
goes okey I think I see where in the code this happen... does 3 more tests send a PM to the Programmers going found bug Here and a lot of programmer struff.
then the QA companies got shafted whit the contracts so instead of hiring decent programmers and devs (all kinds of levels).. well they all got fired/laid off because the contract sum was so bad that the only way to fill the slots was by min wage workers and programmer would not work that kind of jobs whit thoes kind of conditions at that level.
and then the C suit threw shit at QA turning QA from a where programmers in learning was to where Failed gamer joined in thinking it would lead them to actual game development in reality a dead end there are no senior QA there is no Programer QA rolls/rank/pay.
so any actual dev that do join leaves quickly.
then to add to it communication between QA and programmers/devs are none existence.
meaning if a QA did find something they had no way to communicate it.
Like I read a story that a Programer would go to a bar at the end of the day and if by chance he spotted a QA member been in the same bar they would sneckily against company policy get the QA reports on how thing was going.
Remember QA used to sit next door whit a direct line to the programmers.
also QA used to join in as soon as there was something to test, nowdays QA gets hired 1 week before launch. it takes a skilled QA dev a week to start to generate reports of use.
Tbh that clip of bezos maniacally laughing with robot arms is one of the most genuinely terrifying clips on the internet and I think about it constantly lol
That cat-drone in the intro is made from a real taxidermy btw
Thx I hate it.
EA thinks game devs are as replaceable like Mc Donald's staff members.
Except McDonalds staff nowadays have better customer support and understanding than big studio development staff. Doesn't help when they're screaming off on Twitter
@@ARStudios2000 Once i went to mcdonalds, i ordered a burger that has bacon usually on it and the bun itself also has abit of bacon on it, but i ordered it on the board without staff and without bacon (i dont like the fast food soggy bacon) and before making the burger the chef came from the kitchen and asked me if i wanted the normal bun or the bun with bacon, that suprised me alot
@@dephtcore now I want burgers
@@ARStudios2000 rip man, i got kebab
19:40 - Battlefield: Bad Company 2 was in 2010, and for 7th gen consoles, too. The fact that the destruction physics in 2042 absolutely pales in comparison to the Bad Company spinoff series is inexcusable.
This is what happens when they skip chronological counting.
Good point actually, I cant really think of a time tgat worked out
Halo infinite
" Heavily inspired by BF3. " And yet it plays like the freakin current COD games.
"Inspired by BF3" Oh you mean the one that had DIFFERENT CLASSES AND DISTINCT TEAMS?
Too fucking true. Even that battlebit game plays like a cod game. There are truly no more new military warfare shooters worth playing now.
The reason why games with stupid high developer numbers suck is partly due to people not being allowed to do stuff. Like if someone wants to test a simple feature, like how a character model is supposed to react to damage. In a small studio they just test what they want that day, in a 9000+ studio they need to write a work order, send it to a resource manager, who then sends it to a tester, who writes a report, and sends it back through the chain 4 weeks later.
Going by the title... How can we keep saying a game these days is the biggest disappointment. We get constant big disappointments. End of the year we no longer have a GOTY ceremony. Instead we should have a Biggest Game Disappointment of the Year Award.
And *GOTY/Game Awards* are an industry problem from Triple AAA. When a selected few Game Journalist will sway the Publics opinion.
Doesn't help that some *Categories* you can't even Vote for within their specified - Genre/Category they get *Nominated* for.
Beacuse witch each year it's actually worse. And people still buy shit over and over again which leads to spiral where everything goes downwards.
Bad Company 2 was peak.
And we STILL never got BC3😢
Bad company made me give up on the franchise.
@@utarefson9 Bad Company 2 was the final nail in the coffin for me as well, I just had a feeling after that DICE would nosedive and they did, now I get it I do like BF3, but the webpage launcher for PC, the rocky launch, horrid hit detection ect..the game had a lot of problems and I am not sure if its because senior leads left or what but this is what's left now
@@tippy4674 Hey BF1 is really good. The atmosphere is really damn good
Bf3 was my life
Yeah, when the fan boat is the best aircraft in the game I think you have some serious bugs in your game. I understand that type of boat is essentially a fan powered sled but it shouldn’t completely defy gravity when it hits a building.
NGL, Alana vibing as soon as some guy had his neck snapped had me rolling.
I’m still quite fond of Battlefield V for the fact they had the balls to have a Campaign from the perspective of a Late-War German Tiger tank crew. Especially in the landscape of media where German soldiers are always portrayed as the horrible supervillain Nazis and people don’t even know the German armed forces were a seperate organisation from the Nazi party and their own forces.
That had to have been a mistake considering "how am I supposed to talk to my daughter about women in ww2?" And the absolute butchering of the Heavy Water facility raid.
Separate organization? Technically yes
Actively participating in the same genocidal aryan boys parties? Absolutely yes
I encourage people to drop this silly narrative "Wehrmacht soldiers were largely innocent" created by a few surviving nazi generals and propagated by West Germany and her new allies to embellish their new army in times when Cold War was about to start
Its not the number of devs that makes it "too many cooks in the kitchen" the issue is that there is no cohesive leadership. There are two many cooks in the kitchen in the sense that non project leadership can make design decisions.
My favourite part was how they made the game for like 128 players but made 8 unique characters so everyone is running around as the same guy
11:23 don't forget ubisoft pushing 130 for it games to pre-order, just insane cause 70 is still relativity new
and never forget ea forcing other team to use the frostbite engine like bioware despite it meant to be for shooting games
Yeah, Ubisoft be wildin' for a while with those prices and yeah that engine thing with EA was just brain dead, the fact they don't understand that not all games work well on the same engine just says a lot.
They sacked Star Wars Battlefront 2 for this
The guided rocket launcher works once then it breaks your camera. So one of the standard weapons of a base operator doesn't work, to this day it's still the same.
what really added salt to the wound and aged like milk was russiansbadgers video during the beta
basically:"we've seen this before guys, it should be fine. don't be negative!"
im like; really?
Yeah that was one of the few times I legitimately didn't like Badgers positivity at all. That kind of lack of giving a shit was exactly how we've got to this mess in the first place
just so you know, the guy who said the "brutal expectations" thing on twitter was Andy McNamara, former editor in chief of Game Informer who scooched off to EA without a shred of game dev experience.. gotta love that access media to game maker pipeline in action.. edit- to be fair though i think he just worked in community management at EA.. but then again that seems to be the exact same job he had as Game Informer EIC, "community management" for the AAA game companies
One of the worst parts of this game was the fact they ruined the Battlefield Theme music.
True
Or the fact they DROPPED battlefront 2 for this shit show.
Adding bots, and not letting people play them offline was just the most confusing thing in my mind.
I love Angry Joe's opening skit for this review lol
Imagine if other companies answered like gamedevs
"Hey Boeing, your doors fall off!"
Ugh, passengers have these brutal expectations, don't they know how hard it is to make a plane?
Do not preorder. Do not even buy at launch if (decent) reviewers and streamers didn't get review copies.
We are not instant gratification monkeys, even if some of us think and act like we are, so there is no reason to behave like this. Be patient. Games are fun. But they are just games.
While i share your sentiment, most people have little to no self control. This is mostly due to FOMO that is one of bigger factors outside of people just being fanboys or gaming community as a whole being simply stupid.
"...it makes me wanna go back and play old games." Way ahead of you, building my retro attic one game or console at a time since 2008
13:25 It currently sits on ”Mixed”
Im convinced those running these companies are people who are hogging any money short term and care little about the actual company,staff, and products.
Once they get their fill they parachute out of there with their ill gotten gains.
The last perfect Battlefield game was BF2 from 2005. The last good one was BF BC2 from 2010. Its franchise is long lost. Same goes for CoD - last perfect game we had was in 2012. Last good one in 2017. FPS-games were killed by greed, "micro"-transactions and SBMM...
Fun frog fact: You are always within 1 centi-meter of a group of frogs. The reason you can't see them, is because they're hiding in your skin, flesh, and bones. Let them out. Free them.
Are you the frog man? Do you always 🐸?
Frog fact: "if you use a rubber hammer, they won't splatter all over your '67 Corvette. They sort of taste like chicken."
Hey, I didn't say that. That's why it's in quotation marks.
How did you know about the frog I shoved up my a-
i feel unsafe but i am sure the frogs mean well
Ribbitt toilet 😅
So you're saying I need to shower?
Alana is my new morning coffee replacement 😩
bad company 2 was so poggers.
13:13 oh no. Enders… the last BF content creator you want to piss off 😂
I was excited to play this game because i like cod and other battlefield games but at the time i found out you needed internet to play it so when i got internet i got the game just to not be able to pass the title screen because you needed a subscription service to play too ( i don't like paying for those) so I was really disappointed especially to find out thier wasn't a campaign story
KSP2 Has full on been abandoned it's not even going to get bug fix reviving like a no man's sky.
After BF5 I didn`t even think about touching BF2042
I tried it last year after friends begged me to play.
The ui is absolute crap. Weapon customization menus are god-awful. The "classes" were terrible. The gameplay was... OK?
But honestly, it was the awful menu navigation that pushed me away the most.
I remember someone saying more or less. Score boards show people stats. Stats can make people toxic, therefore they did not make the scoreboard to reduce/prevent toxicity.
It's sad i can't tell if it was a joke or if that was the actual thing that happened.
This reminds me, the same will happen to AC Shadows if launched this Nov with no changes.
It's worse than too many cooks in the kitchen. Too many apprentices, no cooks to be found
there are exactly 3 thing they could have done differently to not fail this hard...
1) No Bots
2) no Build-in wallhacks
3) a working game at launch
Maybe they will make the game playable by 2042. That's why the it's the title.
Fun fact Criterion absolved the last remaining evolution devs. Evolution were the guys behind bangers like Motorstorm and some early 2000 rally game
Back in my youth;
(Discs & Product-Keys, no DLC, MRX & Delayed releases. It came out when - Was Finished) Even Playable on-Launch;
*Battlefield 1942*
*Battlefield 2*
*Battlefield 2042*
A few years go by and we got
*Mirrors edge*
__________
Than they decided to make Battllefield 3. Than they no QA Testing happened.
Oh boy! We weren't ready - Boys.
You are missing the best bf in there, pal: bfbc2. If you didn't play it, just for the campaign and historically fun squad moments is worth.
You have nostalgia googles on. Bf1942, 2 and 2042 were infamous for their terrible state at launch, and bf2 started the trend of delivering basic features like bots in patches after release.
@@carlitosskater89bfbc2 multiplayer was cancer
34:46 alot of devs left in 2018 to create embark studios. i wonder what they made........... oh they created "the finals" that battleroyale game with tonnes of destructible environments.
They should have just kept supporting bf4. THAT shit is peak
Buying keeps just to message doctors at 2am like "u up?"
Please never change your intro
dammit they dropped battlefront 2 for this game, i will never forgive them.
Preorders are totally pointless with AAA games... all of them release unfinished and/or have gamebreaking bugs at launch... sometimes even console breaking. Just play games in the gamepass or buy them a year later in the Steam Summersale when all the bugs have been fixed and the games cost half the price with all addons/dlc included
I miss the original "battlefield 2042" where it seemed actually special. Winning by destroying high tech enemy airships, good times.
It was battlefield 2142
2142?
@@TheVillainInGlasses Yeah, shit looked so cool, almost like the people behind battlefield actually tried to move abit forward, a natural progression of the previous games, rather then just make the same fucking game over and over again.
@@anelbegic2780 Yeah, Battlefield has been on a downhill trajectory for years, and it's really disappointing.
@@anelbegic2780 Oh man, I forgot about 2142. I -loved- 2142 a ton. Stomping around in the walkers. Calling down orbital strikes. Using pods to shoot up to the Titan airships... Now I'm sad.
"war never changes" we see what you did there
"War has changed" - Stiff snek
Surprisingly i played cyberpunk day 1 on pc and the only real bugs i encountered in the first 20hrs was some car navigation issues. floating junk and some crafting issues. I haven’t seen any other bugs. I didnt ever come across graphical issues, crashes or anything else. Maybe it was just me but the game was fine
The console versions were bricked. The PC version was fine outside of a lack of polish.
@@karenpojar2514 thank you for the clarification, reminds me of ark ascended. Tho ark is just a mash of problems as usual
@@co98760 nah it was sooo bad that playstation had to do all refunds and close the game of the ps store itself for just how uneditable unsuitable for consumption that pice of rotten eggs milk was.
And that neverd happend not even with fallout 76 and others of sush nature a like. It was a first.
It really was that bad 💀
Absolutely dumpster fire, I decided to wait a full year and it still was busted for a few months after, it's fine now but there's still some things that were said to be in the game that they just lied about, I hate that people just forgave them after the dlc
No campaign, but that means finding out stairs are pit traps you fall into and can't get out of in multiplayer but can still shoot people somewhere on the map.
Best “KURVA!!!” I have ever heard.
stat pages, scoreboards, and voice chat...hmmm, that *smacks lips* mmh, that tastes like, hmmmm, TF2, a game that came out in 2007. truly unreasonable demands for battlefield
Forget TF2, try Counter Strike OG
Dice scraps the scoreboards, because they are toxic. They proudly said it themself (or EA said it). I think the same thing goes with chat, but I don't really remember.
As a live service, 2042 is already done. Dice themselves confirmed that there wont be any more seasons or content coming out and they'll just focus on maintenance and spin-off game modes. Had it launched in the state it is today, it might have seen a good lifecycle but by now, EA would rather spend their time preparing the next installment than trying to live up to the potential this game had. The only reason this game has players now is because of massive discounts they've given when buying the base game (i bought it for like 5 USD).
i bought it for 10$ on steam. I can't the specialist system I fucking hate it with a passion. I played maybe 2 matches before i uninstalled. I want the class system not a shitty ass specialist system
I need Alan's brother as a friend... Dude has played all the old games I used to, truly an Xbox live era gamer XD
So we're just gonna ignore the fact that big boss ripped Internet Historians entire style? Like even the mannerisms are the same.
ah yes, that one youtuber out of dozens has dibs on a particular editing style because i saw his stuff first. A classic.
@@utarefson9 ah yes, that one youtuber out of dozens has dibs on a particular editing style because i saw his stuff first. A classic.
I understand but I'd say Big Boss actually does differ in some subtle ways compared to Internet Historian.
Big Boss is less focused on internet history and more on organizational incompetence and corporate stupidity, and the way his stuff is a bit more fast paced compared to IH
This is why I still play Battlefield 4. You know, an 11 year old game.
I am one of the Admins for a Hardcore Operation Metro 24/7 sever on PS4 if anyone is interested in playing it as well. We only ban people for consistent team killing and have NO weapon restrictions.
this game had a huge discount on this summer steam sale. It increased the player count a lot i think. 12k players right now
HAHAHAHAHA
Not even worth my time and money. Unless it's down to 2$, not worth it.
@@carlitosskater89 it went down to 4.99$ if i remember correctly
I was the one person for whom Battlefield 2142 was my favorite. I miss Titan mode.
puncture organs with an airgun, probably not
but that wont stop it from causing internal bleeding with the shockwave
you need a sharp thing to stab and pucture
but a shockwave just needs to go hard, to rupture organs
You know with how awful nearly every Futuristic FPS has been you'd have thought they would have realized that 2042 would fail as well
Greed, rushing things off and following trends.. thats what i think killed it.. they followed a trend and decided " well if its multiplayer we might take those cod players head on at launch!" Then rushed it off until the game was ... well this
27:22 "... Asking for things in games that have already been made in the series, in the predecessors..."
Ask Angry Joe about Madden.
Ok he mentioned about the hovercrafts in the game I witnessed one scalling a building and drove off and landed on another one to get on top of that one like what am I watching...
Imagine paying $100 to play a game early that is unplayable. I would be furious.
Man I remember seeing this game and getting really hyped at the sight that there was going to be WW2 and Modern Warfare in the same multiplayer server. The idea of having a modern loadout while being able hopping into a Tiger tank had me sold on the game, but then I bought the game was disappointed to see that only one team could play with the WW2 stuff while the other only had Modern stuff. I got CONNED!
I will still never forgive EA for pulling support from STARWARS Battlefront 2 when it was just starting to pop off for this shit show of a game, which, imo, had a worse launch and development than BF2 did, even w BF2s lootbox disaster.
Also 2042 is supposed to be a prequel to 2142 which is battlefield but Sci fi when humanity flees earth for the stars
Dude, Portal is so technically potent. It's is dead sad that they didn't put all BF maps to it and didn't make it a standalone game.
I get the feeling that the "game as a live service" has crept into most companies mindsets (although luckily not all has joined in on this practic). One example, that comes to mind... that sadly still bothers me so far, has to be Payday 3. Battlefield 2042, was one of those games where I'm glad a friend of mine picked it up to test out for us both. (my computer at the time couldn't run it... and well, ptsd from service takes a hold every time some smuck throughs a grenade or explodes a vehicle...). I've been playing battlefield bad company 2 as my first battlefield game, then 3, 4, then the WW1/WW2 version... - skipped out on 5. - but 2042 oh my... I'm delighted now that I didn't delve into it.
Just when Battlefront 2 was getting to where it should have been at launch, they pulled the dev teams off of it to work on Battlefield instead.
ugh i love your videos❤
Another game that launched early despite its QA team saying it was not ready, FEAR 3.
In my opinion this was even more egregious than cyberpunk. They saw what happened with cyberpunk, they knew their game wasn't ready yet they still launched it
yep and now we are repeating history for the second time, with some minor differences
We will never have a battlefield game like bf1 ever again😢
Bad company 2 was peak battlefield in every way. Gunplay was good. The classes were balanced and the maps were amazing.
The game a bit better now but at what cost. Still missing a lot of stuff and still lacking compared to the other ones. I rebought it at a discount which is what id recommend if you do want to jump into it
I remember the sequel to games when i was 10 or a teen that the 2 game typically improved on everything from the first and more and now they make it worse than the first lol
I love this big boss video
BF2042 the CoD/OW hate child that no BF wanted.. As far as I am concerned Bf1 was the LASST one they actually made. Sadly BF is now dead. THANKS Ea and DICE!
Battlefield died with Bad Company.
Battlefield 2 was best Battlefield. Ah the memories of griefing friends from school as a sniper on Stike at Karkand cause my computer could render the max distance
This is the reason I play FromSoftware games. They are a little jank but FS publishes finished games (with only a few minor bugs) with good DLCs and they treat us fans well.
and:
28:00 Fun fact: Scoreboards can be in deed quite trivial to implement if you have a good event-system in place. But if this is not the case, the implementation of scoreboards is a mess. I suspect the latter was the case with BF 2042.
I was one of the people who spent over a hundred bucks to play this early....... I've never pre-order a game since
Also Ea needs to get the hell out of here with its DEI mentality but grate react video Alana.
at the time of this release, I had just finished building my first PC. I always loved playing BF4, and thought this would be somewhat similar. I'm so glad I didn't pre-order the game. I ended up just going back to OSRS with a overpowered PC
The pain is real
oh man, this brings back memories and not the good ones. BF5 and Battlefront 2 lost their developer support for a mess of a game like BF2042