I’ve been watching Gen and zero dominate for years. Back before zero was even IGLing. He was forced into the reps role and was playing gibby and their igl was templex. Those 3 literally stomped every tourney they would enter. I consider myself an OG fan so it’s been great watching all their success
Close in skill but Zero is a much better IGL. Hal had slightly more success than Zero but org, teammates, region, resources, plot armor lol had a lot to do with it. There is a reason Hal joined Zero’s team and not the other way around.
Nah, i still prefer Aceu. Fun to watch, maybe the highest skillset of all players ever - just lacked the interest in constantly competing on pro level.
I don't even get why he's supposed to be the "evil" guy. zer0 is not evil, i would even say he's very approachable in chat and very respectful (as long as you're respectful to him)
@@buddhastl7120 Facts, so many people misinterpret his humor and sarcasm as evil. It's crazy how tone deaf the majority of humans (on the internet) are nowadays.
@@muddy1337Well where there must be a hero (Hal the 'CEO') there must be a villain. Hal and Zero always were opposite sides, both had been called Toxic but naturally Zero slowly filtered into the villain name. You can't win while being soft obviously and both Zero AND Hal had moments where they were a bit much but I think the only reason Hal was the 'hero' is because he was the first to do it.
They're not gonna leave b4 champs, that would be the dumbest possible move and they know it. Plus Gen and hal weren't overlooked when 80% of others were. He talked abt it on stream. I'd bet a lot of money for them to win champs I zer0 doesn't take too much Adderall again😂
Hmm youve given yourself basically 66% chance of winning (if we assume that 33% they break up 33% they stay and lose and 33% they stay and win). Maths are more complex than that but you covered most of the possibilities lol
Real winners never just "fade into obscurity" and guys like Zer0 and Hal are real winners (Gen's a winner too, but he's just a lot more laid-back). Guys like Zer0 and Hal CAN'T lose, they're too competitive, so they'll be back. Awesome fkn VIDEO btw!
You already gave the explanation why they wont win a LAN: Their ego. They simply dont fit together at LAN. Hal takes a lot of Zeros confidence away - imagine having the maybe best IGL/apex player ever as your fragger, basically calling every decision you make. Nah, these two dont work together.
Insane vid awesome editing, Id do less face cam though. It takes away from the immersion, the clips and pictures of stats etc. do an incredible job of telling the story. When it pans back to your face it kinda takes you out of it. Awesome video though, cant wait to see more!
I can never take gen trash talk serious🤣 bro saids it in such a calm and happy way that you can’t take it serious unlike zero💀he’s only insulting people in game but i can’t help but feel like bro is insulting me in a way 😭
How I see it falcons had to much confidence given to them also with gen Hal and zero not playing ranked together just scrims and tournaments they won't do as well as other team who put in the time to team chemistry
Never believed in Hal+Zero+Gen. Superteams very rarely work and there are many reasons for that. You simply can't unite ego-players like Hal and Zero with different playstyle and decision-making and expect them to act as one. Superteams work when there is a leader, whether unselfish (like Curry and Durrant in GSW) or the one everyone in the team respect and ready to follow (Jordan in Chicago Bulls). Hal and Zero is not a good example of how you need to build up these teams
I genuinely hate the whole "Pro meta" thing. They're always talking about some character being OP and how you can't play anything but these 3 or 4 (5 if you're lucky) characters in competitive. Then randomly someone will change, do well and they'll all change again to be little clones of each other. I saw some clip of one of them complaining about Crypto being the worst meta and how he has no counter (being the whole rat invisible thing). Bro, take Bloodhound. That's an instant counter, and if they've been in place for so long the footprints have disappeared you have a scan that picks him up on a 20s cool down. They don't seem to realise that you can play the game where all 20 teams don't have to be the exact same. All just farting smokes at each other.
Bro meta changes depending on how many teams are running a certain character. You can’t just pick a random character and just win. It has to be a proper counter to what everyone else is running.
@@anandu1997 Not really. And yes the meta is based on what people run, well done you've used a dictionary. But that doesn't mean it's the only possibility for you to win. If everyone is running the exact same comp, you can run something different designed specifically to counter that comp.
@@fishoutofwater3752 Explain your rationale. Without quoting some idiot who calls themselves a pro player or Raven (because that guy has an iq of toilet bowl). What makes Bloodhound bad specifically? And if not Bloodhound, let's take Seer. His passive can find Hakis hanging out as an invisible Crypto pretty easily. Explain to me what your justification is for thinking 2 kills and running the same comp as every other team is better than 3 kills and a placement point with the ability to mop up other teams rats easily.
@@ECGgroupit’s bc meta characters like bang, crypto and others r just op. Crypto is frustrating bc people started picking him. His invisibility thing is strong, but his ult is just bs. And his ability to get info is absurd too
Hal record: most Lan wins, top igl, top 5 fragger, never stopped grinding... Zer0 record: 2 Lan wins, never been a top 10 fragger, shit the bed at Lan as igl, plays terraria more than apex. Zer0 Def not the "goat". Anyone that says hal isn't the goat of apex is just in denial. Numbers, gameplay, and gamesense is top tier. Bros a 99 overall
the quality that went into this is insane... genuinely the cherry on top
I’ve been watching Gen and zero dominate for years. Back before zero was even IGLing. He was forced into the reps role and was playing gibby and their igl was templex. Those 3 literally stomped every tourney they would enter. I consider myself an OG fan so it’s been great watching all their success
that obly popoff cold as hell
Are we not counting x games and Poland as lans?? TSM reps and Hal have 4 lan wins then
doesn't fit the agenda of his video lol
He did say some events were changed for storytelling.
The second greatest apex player of all time. After Hal
As soon as Hal Switched to Roller Zero arguably became the greatest Player because He is doing what He does but on MnK wich makes him more valiuable
@@SupermotoFlowHow are we measuring value because controllers brings more value
@@mindyourownbusiness6609 controller is a superior input . Is what he’s trying to emphasize
Close in skill but Zero is a much better IGL. Hal had slightly more success than Zero but org, teammates, region, resources, plot armor lol had a lot to do with it. There is a reason Hal joined Zero’s team and not the other way around.
Nah, i still prefer Aceu. Fun to watch, maybe the highest skillset of all players ever - just lacked the interest in constantly competing on pro level.
great video Moch, one of the best apex vids ive watched truly.
I don't even get why he's supposed to be the "evil" guy. zer0 is not evil, i would even say he's very approachable in chat and very respectful (as long as you're respectful to him)
I love Zero’s sense of humor but many gamers are soft these days and get triggered over anything they deem toxic
@@buddhastl7120 Facts, so many people misinterpret his humor and sarcasm as evil. It's crazy how tone deaf the majority of humans (on the internet) are nowadays.
@@muddy1337i mean he’s definitely toxic funny or not making him the “evil” but obviously the evil is a joke too so ye
@@muddy1337Well where there must be a hero (Hal the 'CEO') there must be a villain. Hal and Zero always were opposite sides, both had been called Toxic but naturally Zero slowly filtered into the villain name. You can't win while being soft obviously and both Zero AND Hal had moments where they were a bit much but I think the only reason Hal was the 'hero' is because he was the first to do it.
Great touch with Limitless (2011) ost, bro!
holy what an absolute unit of a cat
subbed with notis just for that
Calling it now. If falcons doesn't split up, I foresee a major comeback.
They're not gonna leave b4 champs, that would be the dumbest possible move and they know it. Plus Gen and hal weren't overlooked when 80% of others were. He talked abt it on stream. I'd bet a lot of money for them to win champs I zer0 doesn't take too much Adderall again😂
Hmm youve given yourself basically 66% chance of winning (if we assume that 33% they break up 33% they stay and lose and 33% they stay and win). Maths are more complex than that but you covered most of the possibilities lol
@victord.monkey9081 there isn't a chance of their team splitting. And that is not how u do the math for the problem u were trying to do lol
@@Packedburrito wasnt answering to you, but to OP
And I said thats not how maths works...
@victord.monkey9081 if someone said 2+2=5 and it wasn't directed towards me, yet I corrected them. Where is the problem?
Real winners never just "fade into obscurity" and guys like Zer0 and Hal are real winners (Gen's a winner too, but he's just a lot more laid-back). Guys like Zer0 and Hal CAN'T lose, they're too competitive, so they'll be back.
Awesome fkn VIDEO btw!
great video. zero and hal will always go down as the best
amazingly well executed video!
dude, what a great video!
Hal and Zer0 are two insane mfs with huge ego, if they dont disband they're winning champs 100%
You already gave the explanation why they wont win a LAN: Their ego. They simply dont fit together at LAN. Hal takes a lot of Zeros confidence away - imagine having the maybe best IGL/apex player ever as your fragger, basically calling every decision you make. Nah, these two dont work together.
Do y’all think falcons get a championship before they breakup? I think they’re too good to not get one that would be so disappointing
Babe wake up new moch video
Aaaaaannnnd this man didn't have the balls to tell his “friend” Genburten that he was dropped. Bros scummy
By far the best player in the game and funniest pro. His haters are insufferable.
I don’t know if you can say that after the last LAN…
great video, you deserve more views!
You are so good at these videos, holy shit.
Great vid holyy
Good production however i feel its an incomplete video. Wouldve made much more sense to wait until Falcons either win a LAN or break up.
Nah this was smooth
omg its just game .The Birth Of Apex's Evil Genius stop liking balls
Goated storytelling
such a good video my word.
love the content man keep it up! 💯
Hal is the best zero may be 2nd
Insane vid awesome editing, Id do less face cam though. It takes away from the immersion, the clips and pictures of stats etc. do an incredible job of telling the story. When it pans back to your face it kinda takes you out of it. Awesome video though, cant wait to see more!
Love the fat cat
Awesome video man! I still think Hal is the best player ever, but brilliant video nonetheless. Love you moch!❤️❤️❤️🔥🔥🔥🐐🐐🐐
Awesome video , need one on Genburten now lol
This is 2 high quality of a video 2 only have 100 views nd 3 comments
this vid makes u pull out the popcorn
Bro Hal has won more then 3🤨🤨
bro i liked ur video, but i thing u can improve a bit the pacing of the video to make it more dynamic
W vid man
Great video! You deserve way more subs!
What ever happened to Sharky?
Holy shit your cats so big 😭😭
i play with 300ping daily
Great video bro
good video, but try to fix the lighting in your face cam segments
I can never take gen trash talk serious🤣 bro saids it in such a calm and happy way that you can’t take it serious unlike zero💀he’s only insulting people in game but i can’t help but feel like bro is insulting me in a way 😭
Cute that you gave Hal blue eyes for the thumbnail lol.
WHAT A VIDEO. Felt like a beautiful film being played
Great video I think Sydney is a underrated lobby
Doesn't HAL have more LAN championship wins?
I don't think you can call someone a genius if they end up dead last
Bro, in this bullshit meta, with ssg winning by accident, you can’t say they r washed bc of one lan
@@AfganovFrags they were the most consistently bad team of all
how can you NOT say that means something
great video
How I see it falcons had to much confidence given to them also with gen Hal and zero not playing ranked together just scrims and tournaments they won't do as well as other team who put in the time to team chemistry
Zero to Hero is Zero
Never believed in Hal+Zero+Gen.
Superteams very rarely work and there are many reasons for that. You simply can't unite ego-players like Hal and Zero with different playstyle and decision-making and expect them to act as one.
Superteams work when there is a leader, whether unselfish (like Curry and Durrant in GSW) or the one everyone in the team respect and ready to follow (Jordan in Chicago Bulls).
Hal and Zero is not a good example of how you need to build up these teams
goosebumps ong
Activate Windows dude.
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I genuinely hate the whole "Pro meta" thing. They're always talking about some character being OP and how you can't play anything but these 3 or 4 (5 if you're lucky) characters in competitive.
Then randomly someone will change, do well and they'll all change again to be little clones of each other.
I saw some clip of one of them complaining about Crypto being the worst meta and how he has no counter (being the whole rat invisible thing). Bro, take Bloodhound. That's an instant counter, and if they've been in place for so long the footprints have disappeared you have a scan that picks him up on a 20s cool down.
They don't seem to realise that you can play the game where all 20 teams don't have to be the exact same. All just farting smokes at each other.
Bro meta changes depending on how many teams are running a certain character. You can’t just pick a random character and just win. It has to be a proper counter to what everyone else is running.
Bloodhound is so bad. Unless he gets buffed i doubt any top pro team is gonna play him.
@@anandu1997 Not really. And yes the meta is based on what people run, well done you've used a dictionary. But that doesn't mean it's the only possibility for you to win. If everyone is running the exact same comp, you can run something different designed specifically to counter that comp.
@@fishoutofwater3752 Explain your rationale. Without quoting some idiot who calls themselves a pro player or Raven (because that guy has an iq of toilet bowl).
What makes Bloodhound bad specifically? And if not Bloodhound, let's take Seer. His passive can find Hakis hanging out as an invisible Crypto pretty easily.
Explain to me what your justification is for thinking 2 kills and running the same comp as every other team is better than 3 kills and a placement point with the ability to mop up other teams rats easily.
@@ECGgroupit’s bc meta characters like bang, crypto and others r just op. Crypto is frustrating bc people started picking him. His invisibility thing is strong, but his ult is just bs. And his ability to get info is absurd too
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Hal record: most Lan wins, top igl, top 5 fragger, never stopped grinding... Zer0 record: 2 Lan wins, never been a top 10 fragger, shit the bed at Lan as igl, plays terraria more than apex. Zer0 Def not the "goat". Anyone that says hal isn't the goat of apex is just in denial. Numbers, gameplay, and gamesense is top tier. Bros a 99 overall