The Untold Stories of Old Bill Williams: 60 Years on the Plains

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  • Before he became known as Old Bill Williams, the gaunt and scarred Mountain Man was a Methodist preacher who attempted to bring the gospel to the Osage people. Bill lived among the Osage, married into the tribe, helped them negotiate a treaty, and even translated the Bible into their language. It’s said, however, that it was the Osage who ultimately ended up converting Williams. Sadly, Bill’s Osage wife passed away and he pressed further west to the Rockies, becoming a free trapper and trader (as well as a prolific horse thief). Often known as “Old Solitaire”, Williams rode with the likes of Jed Smith, Kit Carson, and Joseph R. Walker and scouted for both Bonneville and Fremont. And, according to rumors, Bill would do whatever it took to survive, including dining on human flesh during starving times. Luck would have it that Bill Williams was also the mentor of William T. Hamilton. In this installment, young Hamilton joins the Lakota in an attempt the retrieve horses stolen by the Pawnee and in doing so has his first taste of combat on the Great Plains. Also discussed are coup sticks, the act of counting coup, competing traders, and encounters with the Arapaho and the Crow. #wildwest #history #rdr2
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  • @onemoreturn
    @onemoreturn ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Williams translated the entire Bible into another language. Now that's an impressive feat.

  • @bobcombs9685
    @bobcombs9685 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    All those years on the plains. Bad weather and all. In the mountains you atleast have cover but on the plains it's just you and the elements....respect!

  • @montana663
    @montana663 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Josh you are the best. Your content is top of the line and I am glad to support this channel.

  • @Charlie.a
    @Charlie.a ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Amazing content. Thank you for all your hard work.

  • @ericsimpson1176
    @ericsimpson1176 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Williams spent alot of time in northern Arizona.. the town of Williams and Bill Williams mountain 9259Ft. And several other places in Az were named after him.

    • @daveybass655
      @daveybass655 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      the Bill Williams river.

  • @jasonclark9662
    @jasonclark9662 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Great as always. Thanks Josh you have provided great entertainment for me while stuch in bed from neck surgery.

  • @barryhoggle2354
    @barryhoggle2354 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey hey right on time

  • @ludwigderzanker9767
    @ludwigderzanker9767 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Josh, thx for the report about one of my absolute heros from this period. The Pawnee did many suicidal things in their warfare, Hyde observed so too 70 years ago. I never got it. All the best from Northern Germany Ludwig.

  • @dennistate5953
    @dennistate5953 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Never speak again of Utes til fully exercised to deliver my cousin Vinny in its entirety please. Not a threat, merely a polite and well founded request that the blessings of liberty might be secured. Dammit.

  • @tims.3950
    @tims.3950 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Sand was still sliding in the hooftracks ahead. A sure indication that the Pawnee were but a short distance ahead." Fascinating!

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pretty cool little detail

    • @tims.3950
      @tims.3950 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WildWestExtravaganza It really was. Nice work, sir!

    • @ericsimpson1176
      @ericsimpson1176 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ya i thought so too,

    • @mrbill_oh_no
      @mrbill_oh_no ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thought that was a great line of description.

  • @jackgoodner6789
    @jackgoodner6789 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Most informative.

  • @alanleemaxwell831
    @alanleemaxwell831 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This just made a slow day infinitely more interesting!
    Outstanding-thanks dude!!! 🙏🇬🇧

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Glad to hear it!

    • @alanleemaxwell831
      @alanleemaxwell831 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WildWestExtravaganza Always look forward to your uploads. Best channel of it's type on TH-cam 😉👍

  • @stewartdalton3298
    @stewartdalton3298 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Before I get to into this .
    I've just noticed that my dog (Universal companion)
    Slightly moves away from me and finds his own space.
    Is it me or is it another fantastic episode of
    Wild West.....
    Extrrraaavaagaanzzzaaa.
    Greetings from Australia 🇦🇺

  • @augustbutler9096
    @augustbutler9096 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very good, captivating and packed with old wisdom

  • @donc9751
    @donc9751 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This has been a book that I've enjoyed reading a lot! Thanks to Josh for pointing it and others out! Keep them coming Josh!! I love your channel!

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you enjoyed it!

    • @montana663
      @montana663 ปีที่แล้ว

      What is the name of the book I'd like to read it.

    • @jester9217
      @jester9217 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@montana663 my thirty years on the plains. The book can be found on audible

  • @justinsane7128
    @justinsane7128 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Don't call me Shirley.

  • @LongdistanceRider22
    @LongdistanceRider22 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Stolen California Horses Were Wild Mustangs !

  • @PapaRocks
    @PapaRocks ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for next chapter!

  • @mrbill_oh_no
    @mrbill_oh_no ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Look at them eyes! Vampire Slayer for sure!

  • @MicahBell_1860
    @MicahBell_1860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well Josh, I had my 10yo son with me for the past 2 weeks, during the school holidays, here in Australia. We were looking fot movies to watch. Then I thought of you & your suggestion to me. So I suggested to him The Revenant & Jeremiah Johnson. He said okay. & absolutely loved them both! Although he said he did like The Revenant slightly more. Cheers Cobber. Guess I owe you a coffee?

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome! What are y'all watching next?

    • @MicahBell_1860
      @MicahBell_1860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He went back to his mother this morning @@WildWestExtravaganza

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Always next time. He might get a kick out of John Wayne's Cowboys

    • @MicahBell_1860
      @MicahBell_1860 ปีที่แล้ว

      @WildWestExtravaganza Yeah I loved that movie. One of the outfits I have in Red Dead Online is Rooster Cogburn, so maybe a True Grit/Rooster Cogburn double too

  • @UnderestimatedA1
    @UnderestimatedA1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    A1 thanks

  • @OGWhinnyBaby29
    @OGWhinnyBaby29 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for all the great content, man!

  • @SatansSimgma
    @SatansSimgma ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These books were considered pop culture then. They are very short and fun.

  • @catholiccrusader5328
    @catholiccrusader5328 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Josh, could you do an episode on Fr. De Smet a two-fisted padre? As always I enjoy your shows.

  • @toddmccoy8698
    @toddmccoy8698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would like to see you do one on Luther Sage Yellowstone Kelly . Love this channel keep up the great work .

  • @Dewalt2023
    @Dewalt2023 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Stuff

  • @malcolmt7883
    @malcolmt7883 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The scale of horse thievery was amazing. Seems like fifty or a hundred horses stolen in each story.

  • @cathymclearnon2972
    @cathymclearnon2972 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting to me, because "Old Bill Williams" in an ancestor.

  • @dannysimmons3167
    @dannysimmons3167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From North Carolina myself. Making a living back then was rough. Just surviving to old age, even more so

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes sir

    • @riskyron1416
      @riskyron1416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Typical life span i up to the Spanish American War was 39 for a man. During that war some degree of hygiene was learned. When asked when I would choose to live, my anser is now. And born when and where I was. At the time post WWII Chicago. Couldn't have been better. However I moved on and now live in Costa Rica. The best place for me now retired. Males here have a Life Expectancy 7.4 years longer than in the US due much better and free health care.

    • @dannysimmons3167
      @dannysimmons3167 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@riskyron1416 think I’ll stay here. My gun collection precludes me from becoming a citizen there.

    • @riskyron1416
      @riskyron1416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dannysimmons3167 My gun collection when I left the US was over $400,000, Plus 15 ft Bayliner boat. 2 Ford F250's with Supercharged 460 engines. A 34 ft Motorhome, a 25 ft travel trailer, a Lincoln Town Car, a Ford Thunderbirs, a 100 cc BMW, a 2500 CC Triumph Rocket III Motorcycle. I got a fire permit and destroyed it all. Any offers to buy were insulting and not worth my time. Much as it was it was well worth it. But possessions will lock a person out of having a better live. My income my 1st year out of the US increased by more than 3000%

  • @donsmithered5623
    @donsmithered5623 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really enjoying your channel mate 🫡 shout out from I.O.W U.K 🤘

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Awesome thank you!

    • @GG-jw8pt
      @GG-jw8pt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Isle of Wight has the interweb? 😂

    • @donsmithered5623
      @donsmithered5623 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@GG-jw8pt only if you stand on top of the downs and face north 😉

  • @haroldvoss5886
    @haroldvoss5886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great episode Josh and a belated Happy Independence day

  • @MTGAttitude
    @MTGAttitude ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Home run Josh

  • @ElMarko6994
    @ElMarko6994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if old solitaire might be one of my distant relatives, I’m from NC and got plenty of Williams in my family tree. It’d be pretty cool if that was the case, I’ll have to look into it.

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe

    • @ElMarko6994
      @ElMarko6994 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WildWestExtravaganza lol I always had to be careful in high school, I brought a girl home one time and didn’t realize we were related until my momma started asking her who her parents were lol point being I got a lot of relatives in NC like old Carbine Williams who was my granny’s first cousin which is who I thought of when you said old solitaire was a Williams

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Haha

  • @stevefaulkner6689
    @stevefaulkner6689 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I first did or possibly didn't become a vampire , was soon after encountering old Methodist minister lal

  • @danielwebster5748
    @danielwebster5748 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Then kind of scouts and trackers do not exist anymore. The kind of men that can track a fire ant through a cornfield.

  • @beau4129
    @beau4129 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Baddest MOFO on the tube!!!

  • @edpreston1635
    @edpreston1635 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My understanding is that he stood 7 ft.

  • @Thomas-uv3tk
    @Thomas-uv3tk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    His middle name was Shirley. Belle Starr was a Shirley. And they were both hanging out with Indians. Any relation?

  • @riskyron1416
    @riskyron1416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bill Williams also provided the Donner Party with the shortcut to California that doomed them. Bill Williams was pretty senile by that time. And had never taken that route.

    • @WildWestExtravaganza
      @WildWestExtravaganza  ปีที่แล้ว

      Where'd you hear that?

    • @riskyron1416
      @riskyron1416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WildWestExtravaganza National History Archives when I studied History of the Old West at Northern Arizona University. It is also on a plack in Williams Arizona AZ the town named after him. There is a sordid side to all the heros. Even George Washington was a very bad guy. Biggest whisky distiller in the US, biggest slave owned. And while his men starved and froze at Vally forge, he indulged in Madera Wine imported from Spain at $300 a bottle. Consuming 3 to 5 bottles a day. Though the Williams Mountain Man Ride from Williams to Phoenix each year is worth watching. A great uncle of mine was two term Arizona Governor and one term US Senator as well As Arizona Supreme Court Chief Justice. He lost the Senate to Barry Goldwater in 1952. My real expertise is in geology and mineralogy of Arizona, especially gold, silver too of course.
      However I no longer live in the US. Another great uncle of mine was the appointed Governor of Cocos Islands Costa Rica in the 1880's. I am certain persuing the pirate treasure there. 4 years of the total looting of South America minus Brazil. The spips sent from Colombia to Mexico City. But never got there. Just happens I retired to Costa Rica but live on the mainland in the cloud forest. In a 7 bedroom/5 bath house with 4 car garage on 23 acres I rent for $153 a month.
      Another great great uncle of mine was a Major in the British Ary during the American Revolution. Later he was a Captain in the US Army and built Ft Dearborn that became the City of Chicago. Two of his sons became /US Army Generals. One was commander of Ft Lincoln prior to Custer;s arrival. He thought he had killed Chief Gall. But he had escaped. And it was Chief Gall that later killed Custer. One of very few armed with a repeating rifle. Another son went to Russia again in 1880's and built the Trans Siberian Railroad for Tsar Nicolas I. He is buried in St Petersburg
      Quite a history. I trace my ancestry to 412 CE Denmark and Viking Long Ship Builders.
      I should caution you that as history goes nowhere is it more distorted and downright lies as in the US. Most heros were villianous, most villians are in reality honorable heros. And finding the truth is certain to be disappointing.

    • @ericsimpson1176
      @ericsimpson1176 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really? Ive never heard that....not saying you are wrong but ive never heard this,,,do you know where this information came from?

    • @riskyron1416
      @riskyron1416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericsimpson1176 In addition there were hearings on the Donner Party to avoid any repeats. And evidence presented in letters and maps by Bill Williams. Maps were in total error as he had never been over the route. And with that hearing others were warned not to believe the maps and other advice of the fronties yarn tellers.
      I find the only times I have ever been wrong is when I have believed the mainstay fables taught in schools and presented in history. No history in the world is as false as that of the US as well as the Christian Religion.
      Like the Alamo. They were not heroes. They were traitors. They had promised to live by the laws of Mexico in exchange for land. Planning from the beginning to rebel. Santa Ana did not come for their guns but for their cannons.
      Interesting character is William Walker. Self appointed President of Sonora Mexico for about a year. Then tried to set up a slave nation in Guatemala, Honduras, and Nicaragua. He was backed by the Vanderbuilts, Presidents polk and Buchannan and at least 3 other former US Presidentsa. Finally hung for his crimes. Called an Independent Filibusterer in US texts though. Vanderbuilts stake was to build a transocianic canal in Nicaragua not Panama. A sea level canal not requiring locks. As to the Panama Canal the plan was to ditch the French attempt and build through the Sari;en Gap. but over 35000 men died there just trying to clear the jungle.
      There are 3 canals. The original, and a second just like it. And the Supermax Canal was completed in 2022, twice as wide and 50% deeper. Bad part is due diminished rainfall Lake Gatun is not getting enough water to operate at full capacity. It is 40%. Water from the lake is what raises ships in the locks from Atlantic to Pacific. BTW the canal is not east to west. It is north to south. I was disoriented in Panama due to that, about 90 degrees out of kilter as my mind operated like a Mercuter world map ather than a more accurate globe,
      I had family that went to Oregon by wagon in 1851. My ancestiors were smart, they used oxen instead of horses. Indians had no use for oxen. And my family friendly to Indians that loved pancakes and donuts they made. Now Indians were not opposed to cattle to eat. But oxen are castrated cattle. And that was not a natural thing to them. The spirit of the animal was missing.

    • @riskyron1416
      @riskyron1416 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ericsimpson1176 As stated, National History Archieves, a part of the US Government. Same place you will find US Militry records and battle info. The records of my dad as well as my own are located there, not in the Military Records in St Louis.

  • @jamesdeen3011
    @jamesdeen3011 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Diplomacy, politics; definition Liers

  • @scottn322
    @scottn322 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Okay come on, play red Dead 2 lol.

  • @michaelgivenni4461
    @michaelgivenni4461 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You're kiddin' me right? Translating the Bible? I wonder how many times that's happened?