Denilson won a Copa America, Confederation Cup & World Cup. Robinho won 2 Confederation Cups and a Copa America plus titles in Spain and Italy plus 100 caps. Not bad careers. I would possibly list a Leandro Damiano before these two.
Mustafi won a World Cup, still a trash defender. Well, maybe calling him trash is exagerrated. He was decent in Valencia where finishing at UEL zone was considered a good achievement. He was just unable to adapt to Premier League's harsh condition and Arsenal's high expectation.
Damião was never a real contender to be a star in Europe. I belive he didn't started to play professionally very late in his life. For me this is the perfect list of players that when young were supposed to be massive stars in Europe. Robinho in first is the best example, he was supposed to be the "new Pelé" and was only an average player at best in all the leagues that he played.
Yes, I seem to recall him musing over his childhood admiration for the blues. Watching them from afar in Sao Paolo, dreaming of one day playing on the hallowed turf once walked on by his heroes Michael Dubbery and Tony Cascarino.
@@MrChipz900he said he supported Chelsea because they was the one leading the way to sign him for 23m plus add ons then city offered 10m more. He never supported chelsea😂
Ganso was a genius who was unfortunately ruined by his ACL injury; Jô was truly a mediocre player, and I say that being a Corinthians supporter, where he was national champion and top scorer several times, so overhyped indeed; Keirrison’s downfall is just crazy to me to this day, I never seen someone fall so fast; Robinho also had a great career (I think his peak was for the Seleção), but also very reckless and never lived up to his true potential, but would call overhyped at all; Denilson was kinda overhyped but still a REALLY strong winger, and injuries + a bad representative also made it way harder for him to live up to his hype, which ultimately he never did.. even so he’s widely loved all around Brasil and cherished for our 2002 WC run
I think the biggest challenge is the expectation. When a European club sign a Brazilian there is a certain expectation that’s rarely realistic. This is from an Arsenal fan from London who has seen Andre Santos and Denilson play for us 😂 Gilberto Silva and Martinelli were / are fantastic though.
@@MrChipz900 dude that CDM Denilson was truly awful 😂 tough times for Arsenal back in those days no idea how he managed to score a move to Europe (and a big club there) considering he was already pitiful for São Paulo
@@MrChipz900 Andre Santos played for Corinthians (club which I support) and was great for us, but he did lose his touch when he went to Europe and was also terrible playing for the Seleção during that period
As a CSKA fan I can't agree with you about Jo. He was fantastic when he arrived to us. But then lack of discipline made him worse. We did great job selling him, but for him, it wasn't the right team and even league. He wasn't mediocre for sure, but didn't fulfill his potential
Ganso's problem were his injuries and the modernization of football. There is no room for a classic 10 that takes more than a few seconds to plan the game nowadays, he refused to adapt too, whether because of his knees or just being stubborn. And the craziest thing is that he won Copa Libertadores again, with Fluminense, age 33, playing almost as a defensive midfielder
As a Fluminense fan I will say that Ganso is an absolute genius. He plays in a position that no longer exists in European football. With his injuries he lost the physicality needed from an European-type midfielder.
Lol, he was always slow and never had the physique to play in Europe even before his injury. He only got to show his talent against weak opposition that gave him constant space and a lot of time with the ball in his possession. Two things that no playmaker in Europe has.
Was really expecting Breno on here; Bayern and Real were fighting for his signature and all he ever managed to do was go to prison for attempting insurance fraud
Ganso is an interesting example. At the beginning if his career, he was actually quite good. But his early injuries just took away whatever athletic conditioning he had. His time at Sevilla was unsuccessful not because he "couldn't operate in high pressing european football" - 'cause he really could produce some magic while he had the ball on his feet - but mostly because his work rate without the ball has always been low and got ever lower after the injuries. At Fluminense nowadays he is seen as a defensive liability with the ability to produce occasional magic...
@@cholamais-cj1wh if I well recall, his problem was lack of search for the ball. He moved slowly around the field... It's the same issue he has had for the last 10 years or so, since he got his most serious injuries. It's too bad, he was quite impressive in his younger years...
@@cholamais-cj1wh 7 goals and 6 assists in 27 games. Could've produced more assists if his teammates weren't so tr@sh. The truth is that Sampaoli didn't get the best out of him there and the media ruined his image, he had his flaws, yes, but he didn't have those fallacious negative qualities. He has also always been a great playmaker, especially on low balls, which is his specialty.
@@KumonoIseki Was that supposed to be impressive for a playmaker? Lmao. You're delusional, he was the "trash" player, That's why He's not there anymore and play on a farmer's league now.
@@jonpirovskyLook how many times this sloth of a player was too slow to pass the damn ball and lost possession. His game without the ball was poor and with the ball it wasn't much better either.
@user8742st Ganso was more valued than neymar at one point Not even joking, he did however have a massive problem that wasn't injuries necessarily, he was very very slow, something Andrea Pirlo pointed out
Denilson was a monster at dribbling. Look at his numbers at the World Cup. He laps the field. Too bad he never figured out how to play outside of that and was lazy
I saw Ganso star for Brazil at an u20 tournament, i knew he was good you can't convince me after injuries got the better of him that me and a whole footballing nation that it wasn't true
I can't remember what Footy Manager it was, definitely between 2010-2012 when Napoli still had Cavani, Hamsik and Lavezzi but I signed Ganso in and he was unbelievable for me. Got like 13 goals and 26 assists. Always had a soft spot for him after that, shame his career IRL was so unflattering.
Ganso is the biggest fallacy of how tactical adaptability is a consequence of a coach and not the player's fault. He was a awesome playmaker at Sevilla, but his reputation was tarnished by the weak, limited and stubborn Jorge Sampaoli who knew more about asking for reinforcements than producing for the squad. He was one of the players who produced the most passes to goal during his stay, scored 7 goals and 6 assists in 28 games and had many important characteristics, due to his intelligence and quick reading of the game, even with physical problems, he was able to maintain an active posture with the ball and escape from many defensive duels
Slow player cant play in Europe unless you are super talent. Zidane is slow but he was super talent. Beckham was slow but he was super talent. Riquelme was slow but he was super talent ( i cant say Riquelme was a failure in Europe, he had his prime with Villarreal before fell apart with Peleggrini ). Ganzo was slow and just talented.
Maybe Jô was overhyped in Europe, but never in Brazil. Everybody here knew he wasn't a legend like Romario, Ronaldo or Rivaldo, but neither a buster he was. He was just a normal player who scored some important goals playing in two gigantics like Atlético Mineiro and Corinthians
Denilson picked up more than 60 caps for Brazil over a 7 year spell. What that tells you is that during a time when Brazil were arguably/were the best national team on the planet, Denilson was rated by their coaches and certainly good enough to play in world cups etc. Betis transfer ruined him, but he was no Jo or Kerlon 😂
12:40 point of correction, Ganso was not overhyped, he was only a victim of the massive shift in football to be more pressing and highly intense meaning his athletism let him down. Even Kaka would have suffered now to get game time because he wasn't the type to do a Odegaard or De Bruyne roles, the modern no.10. The way he plays would have worked if he lived during Kakas era
@user-ir1wz4gl8x please bro, Ganso is no different from Riquelme, he was also regarded as not athletic. The point I was making was, like Riquelme and Kaka, physicality was not an issue back then. You cannot tell me that Ganso was not a great playmaker because he is flourishing in that role at Fluminense and it is no different to how Kaka and Riquelme played in their time. Bottom line is, the game has changed a lot. If I mentioned Ozil, you would have equally tried to cope despite everyone knowing Ozil didn't have much physicality to his game. If you want to talk about adaptability which I feel Ganso may have found it hard to do, then I may somewhat get your point but that's not my argument nor point.
Robinho ahhh! When Robinho was at Milan, I was errr lucky enough to pretty much see all of the matches he played in live. He was certainly not overhyped. The issue with Robinho was that I just don't think he cared all that much. During the season when Milan won serie an and Robinho scored 14, trust me when I say that he should've scored at least double that amount. He would squander so many easy chances. Game after game, he would get into good positions only to try a tame shot, or in most cases miss the goal completely. When he came onto the scene in Brazil, he looked like Neymar but even more skilful. He seemed to have that turn of pace and acceleration, but that somehow quickly disappeared when at Real Madrid. At Milan he was still a very good player, but I think his lifestyle is what caused his quick decline. I just don't think he was focussed, driven or intense enough to be what he could've become. But I wouldn't call him overhyped.
@@HenriqueM-jh1ye rodrygo has been totallly invisíble for the national side. If only gabigol had Vini, and Rodrygos managers hed be on the national side still. Theyre all equally garbage weak brazilian generation. point made.
Another overhyped Brazilian for me is Lulinha. Touted as the future after his impressive performance in U17 level, he never had something special moments in his later career. At 33 years old, he now plays in Indonesia but even in lower level he still managed to gain some inconsistencies.
As a Brazilian, I don't consider a player who helped the team win their last World Cup and with good performances when he joined to be overvalued. That's why Denilson should be off this list
There were allegations in the 90s and 2000s that certain players were given caps in friendlies and possibly even some qualifiers to inflate their values.
I can agree with Kerlon, Jô and Keirrison. They were insufficient to European football. Kerlon was insufficient even to Brazilian football. Keirrison in Brazil was like Vitor Roque, but scored many more goals than Roque. But Ganso, Robinho and Denilson were very good players, much better than most of European players, who are indeed overhyped. Bring commom european players to Brazil, they would not even touch the ball. The skill level in Brazil is higher. Denilson and Robinho did well in Europe, while Ganso carrer was ruined by his ACL injury, and also he can't perform in fast-paced leagues. He's a #10 from the 80's and this kind of player doesn't have space in football today, like James Rodriguez.
Two players come to mind from FM 15: Gabriel Barbosa and, arguably, Malcom. The former never really caught on in Europe, while the latter wasted his prime years at Barca and oddly stayed at Zenit St. Petersburg long into Russia's invasion of Ukraine, now he's in Saudi Arabia. For shame, his career could have been so much more. By the way, there was also a video on overhyped English players. Where did that go?
The Brazilians love a good party and samba dance. Once they get that pay packet to set themselves and their loved ones for life, they rarely continue their peaks past 30. But with the prevalent poverty in Brazil, some of them are doing it out of necessity. It's different to somewhere like Japan or Finland, where the players are doing it out of passion
North Americans inn poverty play Basketball, some football when accessible. the main reason USA are lacking end product on the soccer world. physical specimens and elite athletes are generally already committed to other sports.
Sorry i dont speak english, translater please, um problema que tem muito no brasil são pais e ou membros da familia qwue literalmente forçam os filhos a jogar futebol,isso em si não seria ruim porem ja presenciei crianças de 10 anos sendo cobrados pelos ais para terem resultados de cristianos ronaldos e messis da vida, e serem cobrados por peoficionalismo e quase em todos os casos os oais tiram os filhos da escola e não os deixam se divertir e como no brasil o futebol de base é estremamente competitivo não á vagas para todos e esse é um dos motivos de tanta pobreza e fora o fato que dos chegam a se proficionalizar e chegam a um clube grande daqui ou conseguem ir para a europa o que mais querem é curtir a vida a doidado por que a mente dele ja deu burnout e não teve uma infância para ser feliz
To call ganso overhyped you are just dumb or dishonest. He was and is a genius. He tore his ACL and literally never came back to the same form that he once had. Ganso and Neymer as teenagers were an unstoppable duo. Ganso won the Libertadores last season with fluminense as a starter.
i believe you were kinda harsh with Denilson and Robinho, though... Denilson played at same era as Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, so it's unfair lol and Robinho got a fairly consistent career with somewhat success, we can't consider here "overhyped", he was what he was... the other guys, though, yeah, a huge hype and nothing more
Not sure if Denilson and Robinho were overhyped, I agree with everybody else in the list. Both had a great career playing for National team. Denilson as already said was world champion and made his name in La Coruna and Robinho always, I repete always used to play really well for the national team. Robinho made wrong choices in his career but was always an amazing player.
18:24 I remember when I was younger the only reason I knew who Denilson was, was because I saw him in that Nike football cage match commercial and looked him up afterwards lol.
Not sure I agree with the list (Jo had a good career whichever way you cut it, and don't think he was ever that hyped up) but still I really enjoyed the video, very well researched. I did think I'd see Pato on the list somewhere. In many ways I think Neymar should be on the list. I mean, leaving a club like Barca and La Liga, for guaranteed championships with PSG in a second rate league, was indicative of what has been proven by Neymar's Saudi move; motivated by money not glory, concerned with status and celebrity, not legacy. Really never achieved what he could and perhaps have done. Would love to see a video on overhyped Argentines and overhyped English - plenty of candidates for the later 😂
I saw Ganso play in the flesh. He was absolutely woeful. The opposition team stuck a man on him for 60 minutes and I never saw him pass the ball forward once. He was substituted and looked like he was about to cry his eyes out before he covered his head in a towel. How on earth he was touted as one of the next big stars of world football I have no idea.
and when was that, what year?? you and the guy who made this video most probably didn’t witness his duo with Neymar here prior to Ganso’s ACL injury… then you would probably understand why a LOT of people even thought he was gonna be even greater than Ney
About Kerlon, how the heck can you say that he didn't understand the difference between helping his team and humiliating the opponents? Are you saying it's HIS fault that football was always so permissive about fights and that opponents beat the sh*t out of him? Wtf, seriously
Denilson is a legend for Betis, even today. And the move was an statement from the ambition of Lopera rather than overhype. Yo can say he wasn't worth that kind of money, as you can say Neymar wasn't worth his transfer fee as well.
@@flashbackfootball1367 because we the Betis supporters don't care too much about stats and results and all that, our motto is Viva er Beti manque pierda (in andalusian, traslated as go Betis even when it loses). Denilson was fun to watch ,and charismatic, and belonged to the team that our first title in 30 years, the first one that qualified for UCL... Joaquin is the marquee guy of that team, but Denilson hits podium for sure
Julio Baptista, Anderson, the Utd twins, Nilmar, Ricardo Oliveira, Wagner Love, Luis Fabiano, Juan Jesus, Dodô (Inter, Roma), Jonathan. Man, those were painful to watch
Robinho had the potential, but not the work ethic. He was just lazy and prone to a party lifestyle. When he got back to Brazil on loan, he was simply overshadowed and overplayed by the rising star of Neymar.
for people out of brasil have a lil understanding about ganso, he was a genius, out of this world talent, he was the classic 10, dribblng, passing and shooting but after tha injury he became a different player relying only on his talent and giving a fuck about tactics and his commitment with his physical was very poor. this guy is one of the most entertainig player that brazil has produced and its a shame what his career end being in comparison to what it could be
The two Lucases don't deserve to be in the "honourable mentions." Players that DO deserve to be here are Breno, Branco, Fabio Rochemback, Gabriel Barbosa, Geovanni, Alex (the attacking midfielder, not the defender), Henrique, Elano, Douglas, Vagner Love, Alex Teixeira, Doni, Andre Santos...
Fabio Rochemback, Mazinho, Ricardinho (who got Alex de Souza's sport at the 2002 World Cup) Oscar, Elano, and Branco. I used to think Gilberto Silva was overhyped until I saw that his passing statistics were on par with Paul Scholes and Cesc Fabregas.
I'm a Palmeiras' fan, one of Santos' main rivals in Sao Paulo state. I must say when Ganso started in Santos Pro Team together with Neymar, he was a serious good player. A lot of potential. To be honest, if was not by his injuries, he could be a world star right now. Also, it was after his injuries that Seedorf said about "Ganso not being good IF playing in Europe".
Ganso was legit. Not overhyped. Robinho was completely overhyped Denilson was just a dribbler horrible shot and yes overhyped Pato was overhyped he just had a good agent Paulinho was overhyped failed in Europe Muller was overhyped
I disagree that Kerlon was humiliating anyone .. if he could legitimately go through a crowded defence (except for fouling) then he discovered an unbeatable move.. and he should do it and should be protected by the referee. Then FIFA should change the rules to not allow more than 4 headers in a row like that.. end of.
People conflate flop for overrated. Hulk was good but... Hulk was 1000% overrated. Hulk only played in Japan, Portugal, Russia and Brazil. Yet people were comparing Hulk at the time to world class wingers like CR7, Robben, Ribery, Hazard...etc...etc whom did it in harder leagues. Fred(striker) was another one. He was good but people put him on the same level as David Villa, Fernando Torres, Drogba...etc...etc
@@876jamaicanyouth Looks like you didn't understand my comment mate. Overrated doesn't mean that you are bad or lazy bro. It simply means that a player gets too much credit. He's never challenged himself and he gets way too much praise and credit. Deep this bro... Hulk has never won big club competitions(UCL,EPL,La Liga, Bundesliga). Hulk has never made a Ballon d'Or nominee list, Uefa 11, World 11...etc..etc Yet people rated him as one of the best wingers in the world which is hilarious to me. Hulks best ever season he might have been in 50th-60th best in the world.
@@Luso00_ Exactly mate. Big fish in a small pond sums up Hulk perfectly. Dont get me wrong, Hulk wasn't bad. He was just a decent player. But his nickname, physique and his stat padding among plumbers and school teachers gave people the impression that he was as good as Hazard, Ribery, Robben, CR7 or Neymar.
Ganso wasn't overhyped, he was THAT GOOD. Then he got injured and came back directly in an european team without a competent coach for him to get used for the european way to play, he was and still is way above brazillian league skill, but his style wasn't what Europe was playing so....
Denilson won a Copa America, Confederation Cup & World Cup. Robinho won 2 Confederation Cups and a Copa America plus titles in Spain and Italy plus 100 caps. Not bad careers. I would possibly list a Leandro Damiano before these two.
Damino was a beast on football manager
Denilson was decent, the price tag set an unrealistic expectation
Mustafi won a World Cup, still a trash defender. Well, maybe calling him trash is exagerrated. He was decent in Valencia where finishing at UEL zone was considered a good achievement. He was just unable to adapt to Premier League's harsh condition and Arsenal's high expectation.
Those are two of my favourite players
Damião was never a real contender to be a star in Europe. I belive he didn't started to play professionally very late in his life.
For me this is the perfect list of players that when young were supposed to be massive stars in Europe. Robinho in first is the best example, he was supposed to be the "new Pelé" and was only an average player at best in all the leagues that he played.
I remember when Robinho said he had always supported Chelsea as a boy when he signed for Man City 😂
Hes full of shite.. chelsea was dog shite too when he was a boy.. both plastic club..
Yes, I seem to recall him musing over his childhood admiration for the blues. Watching them from afar in Sao Paolo, dreaming of one day playing on the hallowed turf once walked on by his heroes Michael Dubbery and Tony Cascarino.
@@MrChipz900he said he supported Chelsea because they was the one leading the way to sign him for 23m plus add ons then city offered 10m more. He never supported chelsea😂
We don’t talk about rapists.
@@roshanbhandari3033 elvis presley was a nonce and everyone still plays his music
Ganso was a genius who was unfortunately ruined by his ACL injury;
Jô was truly a mediocre player, and I say that being a Corinthians supporter, where he was national champion and top scorer several times, so overhyped indeed;
Keirrison’s downfall is just crazy to me to this day, I never seen someone fall so fast;
Robinho also had a great career (I think his peak was for the Seleção), but also very reckless and never lived up to his true potential, but would call overhyped at all;
Denilson was kinda overhyped but still a REALLY strong winger, and injuries + a bad representative also made it way harder for him to live up to his hype, which ultimately he never did.. even so he’s widely loved all around Brasil and cherished for our 2002 WC run
I think the biggest challenge is the expectation. When a European club sign a Brazilian there is a certain expectation that’s rarely realistic. This is from an Arsenal fan from London who has seen Andre Santos and Denilson play for us 😂
Gilberto Silva and Martinelli were / are fantastic though.
@@MrChipz900 dude that CDM Denilson was truly awful 😂 tough times for Arsenal back in those days
no idea how he managed to score a move to Europe (and a big club there) considering he was already pitiful for São Paulo
@@MrChipz900 Andre Santos played for Corinthians (club which I support) and was great for us, but he did lose his touch when he went to Europe and was also terrible playing for the Seleção during that period
As a CSKA fan I can't agree with you about Jo. He was fantastic when he arrived to us. But then lack of discipline made him worse. We did great job selling him, but for him, it wasn't the right team and even league. He wasn't mediocre for sure, but didn't fulfill his potential
At club level Denilson is totally irrelevant
Ganso's problem were his injuries and the modernization of football. There is no room for a classic 10 that takes more than a few seconds to plan the game nowadays, he refused to adapt too, whether because of his knees or just being stubborn.
And the craziest thing is that he won Copa Libertadores again, with Fluminense, age 33, playing almost as a defensive midfielder
As a Fluminense fan I will say that Ganso is an absolute genius. He plays in a position that no longer exists in European football. With his injuries he lost the physicality needed from an European-type midfielder.
Joga de terno né?Se ligarem pra Sinaf já está até pronto.Vai me falar que vc também não passa raiva com ele se arrastando?
Lol, he was always slow and never had the physique to play in Europe even before his injury. He only got to show his talent against weak opposition that gave him constant space and a lot of time with the ball in his possession. Two things that no playmaker in Europe has.
Was really expecting Breno on here; Bayern and Real were fighting for his signature and all he ever managed to do was go to prison for attempting insurance fraud
Ganso is an interesting example. At the beginning if his career, he was actually quite good. But his early injuries just took away whatever athletic conditioning he had. His time at Sevilla was unsuccessful not because he "couldn't operate in high pressing european football" - 'cause he really could produce some magic while he had the ball on his feet - but mostly because his work rate without the ball has always been low and got ever lower after the injuries. At Fluminense nowadays he is seen as a defensive liability with the ability to produce occasional magic...
Nah, he couldn't produce anything. Dude was in first place for ball loses on Sevilla's side. He's so slow.
@@cholamais-cj1wh if I well recall, his problem was lack of search for the ball. He moved slowly around the field... It's the same issue he has had for the last 10 years or so, since he got his most serious injuries. It's too bad, he was quite impressive in his younger years...
@@cholamais-cj1wh 7 goals and 6 assists in 27 games. Could've produced more assists if his teammates weren't so tr@sh. The truth is that Sampaoli didn't get the best out of him there and the media ruined his image, he had his flaws, yes, but he didn't have those fallacious negative qualities. He has also always been a great playmaker, especially on low balls, which is his specialty.
@@KumonoIseki Was that supposed to be impressive for a playmaker? Lmao. You're delusional, he was the "trash" player, That's why He's not there anymore and play on a farmer's league now.
@@jonpirovskyLook how many times this sloth of a player was too slow to pass the damn ball and lost possession. His game without the ball was poor and with the ball it wasn't much better either.
GANSO WAS NEVER OVERHYPED!!!!! He really was THAT GOOD. Just Injuries ruined him
Nah...
@@downunder9217if you disagree you either simply didn’t watch him from 2009 to 2012 or you’re just dumb 😂
No it isnt
@user8742st Ganso was more valued than neymar at one point
Not even joking, he did however have a massive problem that wasn't injuries necessarily, he was very very slow, something Andrea Pirlo pointed out
@@gabsnandes7818 his injuries arent the real problem... he was always lazy and never developed the potential attributed to him
Denilson was a monster at dribbling. Look at his numbers at the World Cup. He laps the field. Too bad he never figured out how to play outside of that and was lazy
I saw Ganso star for Brazil at an u20 tournament, i knew he was good you can't convince me after injuries got the better of him that me and a whole footballing nation that it wasn't true
I can't remember what Footy Manager it was, definitely between 2010-2012 when Napoli still had Cavani, Hamsik and Lavezzi but I signed Ganso in and he was unbelievable for me. Got like 13 goals and 26 assists. Always had a soft spot for him after that, shame his career IRL was so unflattering.
💯Ganso so was class on football manager
Ganso was born into the wrong century. Often a pleasure to watch him play but he lacks what it takes for top modern football.
An excellent video, maybe you could do a mini-series of these based on other nations.
Ganso is the biggest fallacy of how tactical adaptability is a consequence of a coach and not the player's fault. He was a awesome playmaker at Sevilla, but his reputation was tarnished by the weak, limited and stubborn Jorge Sampaoli who knew more about asking for reinforcements than producing for the squad. He was one of the players who produced the most passes to goal during his stay, scored 7 goals and 6 assists in 28 games and had many important characteristics, due to his intelligence and quick reading of the game, even with physical problems, he was able to maintain an active posture with the ball and escape from many defensive duels
Not only that, but his teammates were also terrible at finishing, otherwise his stats would be way more higher than its looks like
Ganso and "Quick" in the same sentence lol.
@@cholamais-cj1wh it didn't mean that you need to run to be quick, Ganso only need one touch to clear the pitch.
@@thiagom.7232 "I also like to make the ball run..." SEEDORF, Clarence.
Slow player cant play in Europe unless you are super talent. Zidane is slow but he was super talent. Beckham was slow but he was super talent. Riquelme was slow but he was super talent ( i cant say Riquelme was a failure in Europe, he had his prime with Villarreal before fell apart with Peleggrini ). Ganzo was slow and just talented.
You deserve so much more subs man. What a vid
video was poor. not good selection of players at all.
Maybe Jô was overhyped in Europe, but never in Brazil. Everybody here knew he wasn't a legend like Romario, Ronaldo or Rivaldo, but neither a buster he was. He was just a normal player who scored some important goals playing in two gigantics like Atlético Mineiro and Corinthians
He probably would have smashed it in the championship. Would have been worth 20 mil to get someone to the premier league.
Denilson picked up more than 60 caps for Brazil over a 7 year spell. What that tells you is that during a time when Brazil were arguably/were the best national team on the planet, Denilson was rated by their coaches and certainly good enough to play in world cups etc. Betis transfer ruined him, but he was no Jo or Kerlon 😂
I think Serginho and Djalminha were way better than Denilson, but the brazilians coaches liked him.
Poor Kerlon: FIFA actually changed the rules to prevent his seal 🦭 dribbling. Disgraceful.
Nah
The seal dribble isn’t effective and it gets you injured
Nani did it against Arsenal
12:40 point of correction, Ganso was not overhyped, he was only a victim of the massive shift in football to be more pressing and highly intense meaning his athletism let him down. Even Kaka would have suffered now to get game time because he wasn't the type to do a Odegaard or De Bruyne roles, the modern no.10. The way he plays would have worked if he lived during Kakas era
@user-ir1wz4gl8x please bro, Ganso is no different from Riquelme, he was also regarded as not athletic. The point I was making was, like Riquelme and Kaka, physicality was not an issue back then. You cannot tell me that Ganso was not a great playmaker because he is flourishing in that role at Fluminense and it is no different to how Kaka and Riquelme played in their time. Bottom line is, the game has changed a lot. If I mentioned Ozil, you would have equally tried to cope despite everyone knowing Ozil didn't have much physicality to his game. If you want to talk about adaptability which I feel Ganso may have found it hard to do, then I may somewhat get your point but that's not my argument nor point.
Gabriel Barbosa is another
*He's know as "Gabi-less goals in Europe than Alisson" here to this day 🤣🤣🤣*
@@JohnnyLouisXIX 😂
Pedro is another too..
But he bagged Neymars Hot sister
That alone is a W
Robinho ahhh! When Robinho was at Milan, I was errr lucky enough to pretty much see all of the matches he played in live. He was certainly not overhyped. The issue with Robinho was that I just don't think he cared all that much. During the season when Milan won serie an and Robinho scored 14, trust me when I say that he should've scored at least double that amount. He would squander so many easy chances. Game after game, he would get into good positions only to try a tame shot, or in most cases miss the goal completely. When he came onto the scene in Brazil, he looked like Neymar but even more skilful. He seemed to have that turn of pace and acceleration, but that somehow quickly disappeared when at Real Madrid. At Milan he was still a very good player, but I think his lifestyle is what caused his quick decline. I just don't think he was focussed, driven or intense enough to be what he could've become. But I wouldn't call him overhyped.
People expected Gabigol to be what Rodrygo is today. But his European carrer was a complete disaster. He surely deserves a spot on this list.
Gabigol Plays better for the national side then Rodrygo.
@@Bigdawg-ys9ij No, he doesn't. He got a lot of chances between 2019 and 2022, didn't perform well in any of them, got behind Richarlison and Pedro.
@@HenriqueM-jh1ye rodrygo has been totallly invisíble for the national side. If only gabigol had Vini, and Rodrygos managers hed be on the national side still. Theyre all equally garbage weak brazilian generation. point made.
@@Bigdawg-ys9ij Vinicius and Rodrygo are way above him, technically speaking.
Excellent channel. Subbed.
Remember telling folk for years watch out for this Kerlon chap he is gonna be unstoppable! 😅
Another great video man, cracking subject.
Lol I don't think you were the only one on the Kerlon bandwagon!
Another overhyped Brazilian for me is Lulinha. Touted as the future after his impressive performance in U17 level, he never had something special moments in his later career. At 33 years old, he now plays in Indonesia but even in lower level he still managed to gain some inconsistencies.
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Ganso was briliant, amazing, but injuries didnt let him become the genius that he could be.
As a Brazilian, I don't consider a player who helped the team win their last World Cup and with good performances when he joined to be overvalued. That's why Denilson should be off this list
Fora da seleção o Denilson é absolutamente irrelevante pro futebol.
Are you a criminal?
@@nicholaspaladino4493putz é mais ou menos isso
There were allegations in the 90s and 2000s that certain players were given caps in friendlies and possibly even some qualifiers to inflate their values.
Shite
@@shugmchugh5107 Cheers Shug
@@toph8298 Raphael Scheidt ( pronounced shite ) signed for Celtic in the late 90's under these suspicions
@@shugmchugh5107 Went over my head, that 😂 very true though
I can agree with Kerlon, Jô and Keirrison. They were insufficient to European football. Kerlon was insufficient even to Brazilian football. Keirrison in Brazil was like Vitor Roque, but scored many more goals than Roque.
But Ganso, Robinho and Denilson were very good players, much better than most of European players, who are indeed overhyped. Bring commom european players to Brazil, they would not even touch the ball. The skill level in Brazil is higher.
Denilson and Robinho did well in Europe, while Ganso carrer was ruined by his ACL injury, and also he can't perform in fast-paced leagues.
He's a #10 from the 80's and this kind of player doesn't have space in football today, like James Rodriguez.
Even though I dont watch football I really enjoyed this video
Two players come to mind from FM 15: Gabriel Barbosa and, arguably, Malcom. The former never really caught on in Europe, while the latter wasted his prime years at Barca and oddly stayed at Zenit St. Petersburg long into Russia's invasion of Ukraine, now he's in Saudi Arabia. For shame, his career could have been so much more.
By the way, there was also a video on overhyped English players. Where did that go?
The Brazilians love a good party and samba dance. Once they get that pay packet to set themselves and their loved ones for life, they rarely continue their peaks past 30. But with the prevalent poverty in Brazil, some of them are doing it out of necessity. It's different to somewhere like Japan or Finland, where the players are doing it out of passion
North Americans inn poverty play Basketball, some football when accessible. the main reason USA are lacking end product on the soccer world. physical specimens and elite athletes are generally already committed to other sports.
What the fuck are you talking about?
Sorry i dont speak english, translater please, um problema que tem muito no brasil são pais e ou membros da familia qwue literalmente forçam os filhos a jogar futebol,isso em si não seria ruim porem ja presenciei crianças de 10 anos sendo cobrados pelos ais para terem resultados de cristianos ronaldos e messis da vida, e serem cobrados por peoficionalismo e quase em todos os casos os oais tiram os filhos da escola e não os deixam se divertir e como no brasil o futebol de base é estremamente competitivo não á vagas para todos e esse é um dos motivos de tanta pobreza e fora o fato que dos chegam a se proficionalizar e chegam a um clube grande daqui ou conseguem ir para a europa o que mais querem é curtir a vida a doidado por que a mente dele ja deu burnout e não teve uma infância para ser feliz
Definitely Danhilio, he was unreal in 1 championship manager. Back then he was the only reason anyone outside of Spain knew about Real Betis.
*denilson
Back when? It was just your ignorance and nothing more 😅
To call ganso overhyped you are just dumb or dishonest. He was and is a genius. He tore his ACL and literally never came back to the same form that he once had. Ganso and Neymer as teenagers were an unstoppable duo. Ganso won the Libertadores last season with fluminense as a starter.
i believe you were kinda harsh with Denilson and Robinho, though... Denilson played at same era as Ronaldo, Romario, Ronaldinho, so it's unfair lol and Robinho got a fairly consistent career with somewhat success, we can't consider here "overhyped", he was what he was... the other guys, though, yeah, a huge hype and nothing more
Wow keirrison never dreamt of hearing that name
Not sure if Denilson and Robinho were overhyped, I agree with everybody else in the list. Both had a great career playing for National team. Denilson as already said was world champion and made his name in La Coruna and Robinho always, I repete always used to play really well for the national team. Robinho made wrong choices in his career but was always an amazing player.
Loved watching Ganso
such a shame he couldnt turn out to be more
the enjoy did him in too
Pato and Ganso. Duck and goose.
To slow
"Neymar was streets ahead of Ganso" I see a fellow Community fan here, a man of culture.
18:24 I remember when I was younger the only reason I knew who Denilson was, was because I saw him in that Nike football cage match commercial and looked him up afterwards lol.
i think it's pronounced pah-toh not pay-toh, but you have a new subscriber now pal
You are correct. The "pay" sound would be spelled pei. Also, pato in portuguese means duck
Could you do a video on the most underhyped players?
This is a good idea, I like it. I'll add it to the list!
There is not one underhyped player in the world.
Not sure I agree with the list (Jo had a good career whichever way you cut it, and don't think he was ever that hyped up) but still I really enjoyed the video, very well researched. I did think I'd see Pato on the list somewhere. In many ways I think Neymar should be on the list. I mean, leaving a club like Barca and La Liga, for guaranteed championships with PSG in a second rate league, was indicative of what has been proven by Neymar's Saudi move; motivated by money not glory, concerned with status and celebrity, not legacy. Really never achieved what he could and perhaps have done.
Would love to see a video on overhyped Argentines and overhyped English - plenty of candidates for the later 😂
Ganso and Denilson are the biggest flops on this list.. i remember how good were they on football manager games back then
I saw Ganso play in the flesh. He was absolutely woeful. The opposition team stuck a man on him for 60 minutes and I never saw him pass the ball forward once. He was substituted and looked like he was about to cry his eyes out before he covered his head in a towel. How on earth he was touted as one of the next big stars of world football I have no idea.
and when was that, what year?? you and the guy who made this video most probably didn’t witness his duo with Neymar here prior to Ganso’s ACL injury… then you would probably understand why a LOT of people even thought he was gonna be even greater than Ney
@@guilhermejurgensen5068Yea, exactly. Ganso was really good, his playstyle was similar to Diego, from Werder Bremen, if you remember him.
The media tells lots of lies trying to big up these useless players.
@@cristianh.5133 dude, people were comparing Ganso to ZIDANE back then, and pretty much no one thought that was an exaggeration
@@Wz96-i4c sure sure, Mr David Smith knows best 😂😂😂😂
ahh, british “people”…
Lulinha, Breno, Leandro Damiao all exist and you pick Ganso?
Pato??
Nice video 😊 can you make it series 👍
Glad you enjoyed it. I plan to eventually. I already have one about English players that you should check out!
Robinho had a great career despite the fact he could do more
Robinho has recently joined prison but in Brazil, not in the same as Daniel Alves
You forgot the most overhyped player ever: Antony.
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Lol
hes still a kid
And Raphinha too
Ganso Is super classy but soooo slow. He's doing great in Fluminense, is a starter in the champion of the last Copa Libertadores
About Kerlon, how the heck can you say that he didn't understand the difference between helping his team and humiliating the opponents? Are you saying it's HIS fault that football was always so permissive about fights and that opponents beat the sh*t out of him?
Wtf, seriously
cry more, that clearly wasn't what I was saying.
I remember Kerlon clear as day when he cracked the internet. You just knew his game wouldn't translate to then the modern game.
He was asking to get crunched.
You could now make a list of the most underrated Brazilian players, such as Roberto Dinamite, Alex de Souza or Hulk
nice topic ...
You missed douglas, a right back, he was bad here in Sao Paulo, imagine him besides Messi, Xavi, Iniesta and cia?
If you mad that a young player is dribbling like a seal, then maybe you're not in the right sport.
Denilson is a legend for Betis, even today. And the move was an statement from the ambition of Lopera rather than overhype. Yo can say he wasn't worth that kind of money, as you can say Neymar wasn't worth his transfer fee as well.
I'm interested to know what makes him a Betis legend. Because on paper, he did not contribute much at all.
@@flashbackfootball1367 because we the Betis supporters don't care too much about stats and results and all that, our motto is Viva er Beti manque pierda (in andalusian, traslated as go Betis even when it loses). Denilson was fun to watch ,and charismatic, and belonged to the team that our first title in 30 years, the first one that qualified for UCL... Joaquin is the marquee guy of that team, but Denilson hits podium for sure
@@gontigames7927 ok makes sense - thanks for the info!
Julio Baptista, Anderson, the Utd twins, Nilmar, Ricardo Oliveira, Wagner Love, Luis Fabiano, Juan Jesus, Dodô (Inter, Roma), Jonathan. Man, those were painful to watch
Robinho had the potential, but not the work ethic. He was just lazy and prone to a party lifestyle. When he got back to Brazil on loan, he was simply overshadowed and overplayed by the rising star of Neymar.
Now Neymar’s the one who is overshadowed and overplayed by veni and mpabbe and Rodrigo
@@aldomelendez5519 yeah, but he actually reached at least some of his potential... Robinho never git close to that.
for people out of brasil have a lil understanding about ganso, he was a genius, out of this world talent, he was the classic 10, dribblng, passing and shooting but after tha injury he became a different player relying only on his talent and giving a fuck about tactics and his commitment with his physical was very poor. this guy is one of the most entertainig player that brazil has produced and its a shame what his career end being in comparison to what it could be
Pato, Dede, Antony, Damiao
Bloody hell, putting Martinelli alongside the likes of Vinicius, Ronaldo, Roberto Carlos and even blooming Pele! Give your head a wobble
lol what Robinho did in 2007 and he’s #1
I loved Kerlon as a kid he blew my little mind
Nilmar in lyon🤷♂️
I remember him beeing the main man in the attack in Brazil s 2003 U 20 world cup winning campaign . He was quite promising in those years .
coutinho i cant have that one
I think it’s in the context of the fee
HITC said Ganso played in the wrong era. Had he played in the 80s, when luxury #10s were the standard, he’d have been every bit as good as they said.
The two Lucases don't deserve to be in the "honourable mentions." Players that DO deserve to be here are Breno, Branco, Fabio Rochemback, Gabriel Barbosa, Geovanni, Alex (the attacking midfielder, not the defender), Henrique, Elano, Douglas, Vagner Love, Alex Teixeira, Doni, Andre Santos...
Considering that Everton didnt have a real sriker after Rooney, Keirrison should have moved there 8:49
Jo still playing today
Pre injuries Ganso, Owen, Ronaldo, Hargreaves, Anderson, Falcao where all a marvel injuries ruin players
Oh Renato Augusto and Thiago Neves take me back. Either FM 05 or 06
Denilson, Kleberson, Hulk are my top 3.
Fabio Rochemback, Mazinho, Ricardinho (who got Alex de Souza's sport at the 2002 World Cup) Oscar, Elano, and Branco. I used to think Gilberto Silva was overhyped until I saw that his passing statistics were on par with Paul Scholes and Cesc Fabregas.
Branco, the left back? You consider him a flop? He was a superb player and a legendary dead ball shooter.
Elano was great
6:57 cardoza was class 🤌🏻🤌🏻🤌🏻
Oscar and Lucas Piazon Anderson and the Twins that played for Man U could’ve made this a Top 10
Ganso was definitely overhyped. He is a slow player that could never play outside of Brazil. Seedorf was the one who told the truth about him.
I'd have paid good money to see Kerlon try his seal dribble in training with someone like Roy Keane around 😂
I'm a Palmeiras' fan, one of Santos' main rivals in Sao Paulo state. I must say when Ganso started in Santos Pro Team together with Neymar, he was a serious good player. A lot of potential. To be honest, if was not by his injuries, he could be a world star right now. Also, it was after his injuries that Seedorf said about "Ganso not being good IF playing in Europe".
I remember when Bolton almost signed Denilson, glad we didn't now
Ganso was legit. Not overhyped.
Robinho was completely overhyped
Denilson was just a dribbler horrible shot and yes overhyped
Pato was overhyped he just had a good agent
Paulinho was overhyped failed in Europe
Muller was overhyped
How did Denilson end up here
Denilson? i think you mean Antony
Pato
I disagree that Kerlon was humiliating anyone .. if he could legitimately go through a crowded defence (except for fouling) then he discovered an unbeatable move.. and he should do it and should be protected by the referee. Then FIFA should change the rules to not allow more than 4 headers in a row like that.. end of.
18:23 that’s me😳
Giovanni wasn’t overrated, he was a legend at olympiakos .
Ganso was insanely talented in the beginning of his career, not overhyped at all. But he certainly didn’t reach his potencial.
I came here to see Denilson De Oliveira on the list. I'm not upset.
COYG.. Our denilson a thought was gonna be world class how wrong lol
Ganso was my fav on the list :(
Robinho was top ten fifa season and ballon dor in real madrid
I was expecting some guys like Damião, Lenny,Adryan but Robinho,Ganso and Denilson bro really dont know anything about football
Do a video on 'Lentini'
Jo never played in Saudi!!
Be better at researching before posting, other than that good video 👍🏼
He played one game for Al-Jabalain mate. But I think I meant to say UAE at that point in the video
Ganso was and is really good, but he needs a whole system built around him.
People conflate flop for overrated. Hulk was good but... Hulk was 1000% overrated. Hulk only played in Japan, Portugal, Russia and Brazil.
Yet people were comparing Hulk at the time to world class wingers like CR7, Robben, Ribery, Hazard...etc...etc whom did it in harder leagues.
Fred(striker) was another one. He was good but people put him on the same level as David Villa, Fernando Torres, Drogba...etc...etc
Yes, we all critique Hulk's choice of clubs because he chose Zenit over Chelsea. Hulk also had an underwhelming international career.
Hulk wasn't overrated he followed the money at no point in his career was he considered lazy or a flop
@@876jamaicanyouth Looks like you didn't understand my comment mate.
Overrated doesn't mean that you are bad or lazy bro. It simply means that a player gets too much credit. He's never challenged himself and he gets way too much praise and credit.
Deep this bro... Hulk has never won big club competitions(UCL,EPL,La Liga, Bundesliga). Hulk has never made a Ballon d'Or nominee list, Uefa 11, World 11...etc..etc
Yet people rated him as one of the best wingers in the world which is hilarious to me. Hulks best ever season he might have been in 50th-60th best in the world.
@-_-DatDude Hulk wasn't a star for the Selecao either. Hulk was a big fish in a smaller pond where ever he played.
@@Luso00_ Exactly mate. Big fish in a small pond sums up Hulk perfectly.
Dont get me wrong, Hulk wasn't bad. He was just a decent player. But his nickname, physique and his stat padding among plumbers and school teachers gave people the impression that he was as good as Hazard, Ribery, Robben, CR7 or Neymar.
I don't get that thing with Denilson. Give me a guy that can get an asist every Mother game and I won't demand goals from him.
Denilson didnt really assist or score, at least not at Betis
Kerlon and Pato weren't overhyped. They were more injured out of the game due to their talents.
Leandro Damião?
Pato?
Ganso wasn't overhyped, he was THAT GOOD. Then he got injured and came back directly in an european team without a competent coach for him to get used for the european way to play, he was and still is way above brazillian league skill, but his style wasn't what Europe was playing so....
Ganso was the real deal..injuries derailed his career..he was the last classic 10 Brazil had