Vlog 190: Changes to critical Greek New Testaments prepare for one world Bible. God bless you all! - David W. Daniels For more info on my books, tracts, etc., see chick.com or chick.com/Bible.
David, Thank you for pointing me to this video. Your research is very impressive. Though my mind has already been convinced of the truth, I am thankful for the confirmation. God's best to you brother! in Jesus always, Pastor Brett
David, your knowledge and teachings are Yahuwah inspired. I binge on your videos. If I have questions, I go to your videos and I always find my answers. Like you, no one can dispute my teachings, for everything you teach is based on fact and not conjecture. I prayed to Yashua for the truth. I found Chicktracts about 6 months ago. The KJV has become my main source, with my Tanach. Thank you so so much.
Thank u my big brother. U and brother Chick have been on the front of this war for the true and only word of God, the KJV. We love u with tears. Blessings sir. Salute.
Mind blown, yet again--constantly learning and consistently learning because of your scholarship and critical analysis. Thanks for everything you do, brother!!
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. (Mar 4:11-12)
James White is not a textual critic, he is an Apologist … and you people (IF you are even "Christian") should be ashamed of yourselves. That man has stood agaisnt falsehoods and cults before many of you have even lied to yourselves about being "Christian." Facts. And what have YOU done for the Body? Absolutely nothing. Not even a certificate of completion. Don't even know the Hebrew or Greek alphabets. Little children hanging on the sideline who do NOTHING for the Body, but whine and complain about everyone ON the play field and IN the battle ground … while you sit up with your feet in the air, drinking your coke sodas and swallowing your hot dogs, doing NOTHING, while the rest of us are actually WORKING for the Kingdom and dealing wit the threats and bearing the insults … while you pitiful fakes do nothing but COMPLAIN! And you think you will escape Judgment? Pathetic. JW will be the least of your concerns when you die. And all this babbly about KJV Onlyist is all vain and unprofitable. At least JW returns to center and focus' on JESUS! As it is written, it is the preaching of the CROSS that is the Power of God … NOT debates and NOT a KJV Only mindset!
This video helped understand Bible "scholarship" a whole lot more, as well as Brandon Ginn's video about James White and Acts 8:37. Thank you, brother Daniels, and God bless you!
Mr.Daniels God is working threw you, I will pray for your safety.. I wish Pastor like Matt Slick,G Craig Lewis, and many others knew of your work.. I still cant fully understand your disbelief in the nephilim,but ill take your word for it..Mr Daniels will you ever teach ???????...
Love your work, david. I've seen a talk by Don Patton discussing the existence of New Testament fragments among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Have you looked into that claim at all?
Ruth Allan - Very little. I'm so overwhelmed with the information on the big picture I keep finding out, that I haven't spent it on that claim. There are a lot of forgeries, however. That much is documented, even by the Israeli Antiquities Authority, so I'm not in a rush on them.
I can see that you are engaged in a vast, complex and worthwhile detective story and you have your hands full - wouldn't want to distract you for a moment, even if I could... I shall have to do some more research myself! Would be good if true though, yes?
Good morning brother David I've been aware of Chick tracts in the materials for a long time but I would really like to start studying on the subject could you recommend some good books for me to get on the King James version and also having to do with it being translated from the original to English I actually talked with the pastor that said that God's promise of preservation was only for the original Greek and Hebrew that really blew my mind I would appreciate some advice on this thank you so much
I'm sorry that last comment should have read a book on the subject of the Bible being translated from the Greek and Hebrew into English and being done perfectly
The king James has been here for over 400 years. Maybe not on my desk but the Holy Spirit has been here for longer than that. He can tell you because he wrote it through his prophets and apostles.
I am so excited about this video. The Holy Spirit led me to your site about a year ago and it has given me so much information so far. I was studying about 10 years ago when I realized the Lord was waking me to the fact that the King James Version Bible is the right Version, the only version that is not an attack on the Body of Christ. Your work on this video and on the other videos is such an inspiration to me, thank you David. God bless you.
Why did the NKJV follow the TR text in places where the KJV departed from it? And why did the KJV translators stop using paragraph markers in the middle of the book of Acts to the end of the New Testament? And why did the KJV translators not always capitalize the Holy Spirit, leaving it often as spirit instead of Spirit?
Hi David, love the work you're doing, important question to ask; have you been able to find any verified writings of Simonides and been able to compare it to the handwriting in sinaiticus?
Consider the words 'at nought' in the verses below and compare them with what has been and is happening with the Authorised Version of the Bible ... interesting!
Thank you. NASB and other versions Ruined my faith and family ... KJV is finally my understanding of God's word. If only I understood this as a young man.
Thanks for sharing you research. It has often made me wonder why the minority texts ever were considered more accurate especially when they greatly contradict one another.
Mark 9:12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
Looks that way, I've been searching for 30 years and the Lord revealed to me that the KJV is the correct version 10 years ago. I've been spreading the truth about it since then, but most of the "churches" today use all the books based on Sinaiticus. I thank the Holy Spirit for guiding me to David Daniels and the work at Chick. I am so elated by these finds of his, but then I realize that most of these newer Pastors and Teachers have been so indoctrinated into the Catholic texts, it saddens me that most people don't know what's happening. This sure looks like the very last hours of the last days, I am going to get tracts and give them out everyday. Praise you Father for David Daniels and the investigations he's been able to make. God bless you.
So what's this One World Religion going to teach? And how can it be based on Bibles that have verses and passages such as John 1:1, 1:18, 10:15-18, 10:27-30.34-39, 14:6, Romans 9:5, 2 Peter 1:1... I could go on. My NASB translation, or my ESV translation, or my German Menge or Elberfelder all teach me the gospel of Jesus Christ our Lord God and Saviour. In order to teach a gospel that is twisted and "one-world" religion type, they would have to change a lot more in the manuscripts than what supposedly has been changed.
Correct! KJO people have turned the King James Bible into an Idol. People were believers of God even before there was any actual "written" books of the Bible. John1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - The King James is not perfect, it does contain errors. It is a translation of man. This KJO is part of the reason why Bible scholar Bart Ehrman walked away from God.
Phew! Those days of persecuting the saints for proclaiming the true words of God are virtually upon us. Thank you for your zealous investigations, brother!
Magnificent disquisition on the deceit of the one world religion proponents against the KJV bible. It's taken me years to really believe there is a Satan. Watching many of your videos has brought me to the conclusion that in fact, the KJV 1611 bible is the only trustworthy bible in English. Thank you so much David for moving me to certainty. The KJV has always been my bible of choice and I do believe that God gave me that version; I found it mouldering in a closet at work. It is so important that we trust what we read about the most important Person in the universe.
Brother Daniel, I always wondered about the 'lost epistle' of the Laodiceans. What do you know about this 'lost epistle'? God bless. Colossians 4:16 "And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea."
I'm not worried about anything the Lord did not want put into the scriptures. I have enough to do, placing my faith in what He DID want me to know. God placed what He wanted in His book. If they only discussed stuff that had nothing to do with doctrine, it makes perfect sense that God didn't have them keep and copy it. We can ask Paul about it when we get to heaven, if we aren't just so in awe that we forget all our questions, that is!
I’m confused. What’s the difference between the Majority and Byzantine manuscripts? I thought Majority was Byzantine? Also, what’s the real issue here?
The issue is changing the way the text is perceived. When it is called the majority text it solidly embeds the fact that it is the majority of texts. When they rename it they are trying to remove the impact of those words while at the same time inject the idea that these texts are later texts from a questionable source.
Do you want to know something funny? I think apart from your videos there are only three more videos in the entirety of youtube that even mention Constantine Simonides, all of them from KJV apologists, of course, because they care about the truth and i applaud them for that. I mean, not even a biography or a mention to any of his many works? That's weird. Even the smallest names in history have at least a dozen videos explaining their lives. There's a lot of videos about Pyrrhus of Epyrus but almoust nothing about Simonides? Is like he is being erased from the website. Finding info about him using google is not a lot easier either. A few valid results are hidden under an avalanche of non related topics.
Can someone explain how in Acts 7:14 KJV It says what the Septuagint says but in Exodus 1:5 It's contradicts that in the Masoretic but not the Septuagint
Its the way its written. One says 75 total. The other says 70 because Joseph was in Egypt. Basically one counts his descendants in all the world. The counts his descendants locally and the rest were already in Eygpt. In essence the same thing said a bit differently becuase they were written in two different languages. God is real. I used to an athiest porn addict and drunkard but now Jesus has changed my heart and I see miracles on the street when I pray for people. Jesus still heals today. Repent the kingdom of heaven is near.
Sharon Sharing - "Catholic" means "universal;" and these books are called that because they are neither addressed to a specific person nor a specific city church. But since people love symbolism, you can't but wonder if they had some motivation with picking the "Catholic" epistles to start their more final edition of one world Bible.
They no longer need to. They already revealed it. it is a done deal. We are looking from the end of history, at what was done, not at the beginning of the movement, predicting what will happen. They are well on their way to eliminating all reference to the Majority, so they can "define down" the preserved-type vast majority as "Byzantine."
*Could you please tell me where was the perfect, complete, inspired, inerrant and infallible Word of God prior to 1611? Was it the Geneva Bible? Bishops Bible? Tyndale Bible? The Latin Vulgate? Or was it a hidden translation kept in a vault somewhere where only a a couple of people had access to? Did most people have access to it or only very few people? Or was there a ~1,500 years of no perfect Bible until the 17th century when God decided to finally give us His word* ?
Nick Spitzley So for 1500+ years the Christians (many of them COULD read) didn't have access to God's Word? If so, then how can you hold to your doctrine of the preservation of the Bible, if the Bible was not preserved for 1500+ years? Do you really expect me to believe that God forget about His people for 1500+ years and that He later on decided to give us His Word through a 17th century Anglican translation mostly based on the text compiled by a Roman Catholic priest called Desiderius Erasmus? Sorry, but I can't buy such a fantasy.
Daniel Sarmas You are missing the point neah? The word was preserved. KJVO holds that the 1611 English bible is the final word of God-there is no need to edit or add in to it. In the English speaking world only. Romance languages had Latin which broke into French, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian and Romanian.
Bro David … all these things are NECESSARY, and your work is important. However, do not forget that the POWER of God is the PREACHING OF THE CROSS. Don't go toooo far to the right that you forget about teaching JESUS. Don't loose site, cause its easy to loose site after soooo many years of a particular thing and sticking to what you are strong in. Yes, we need the "boorish" textual stuff, but if it lack JESUS, then you might as well be a secular college professor teaching religion, but has no relationship wit the Lord. Such a person will still see Hellfire in the end. Yes, your work is important … but do not forget the whole reason why we are Christian. Don't fall away from the FIRST LOVE. And yes, this DATE - SETTING madness is crazy. I've been telling people for years to throw the date setting stuff in the trash.
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they [Bible corrupters] lie in wait to deceive;
Separating truth from error is long over due. Daniels is thorough. A consummate literary archeologist worth your time! Thank you, Brother.
*_God Bless_*
David,
Thank you for pointing me to this video. Your research is very impressive. Though my mind has already been convinced of the truth, I am thankful for the confirmation. God's best to you brother!
in Jesus always,
Pastor Brett
David Daniels you are such an inspiration!
Making the complex simple. Thank you Brother David.
Love your work sir! Thanks and God bless :)
Jeremy Bennett love this series
David, your knowledge and teachings are Yahuwah inspired. I binge on your videos. If I have questions, I go to your videos and I always find my answers. Like you, no one can dispute my teachings, for everything you teach is based on fact and not conjecture. I prayed to Yashua for the truth. I found Chicktracts about 6 months ago. The KJV has become my main source, with my Tanach. Thank you so so much.
Thank u my big brother. U and brother Chick have been on the front of this war for the true and only word of God, the KJV. We love u with tears. Blessings sir. Salute.
Mind blown, yet again--constantly learning and consistently learning because of your scholarship and critical analysis. Thanks for everything you do, brother!!
If only James White would learn from you, brother.
Amen.
And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them.
(Mar 4:11-12)
James White would not listen to the truth, he has a whole ministry built up on falsehood.
Unfortunately ...
James White is not a textual critic, he is an Apologist … and you people (IF you are even "Christian") should be ashamed of yourselves. That man has stood agaisnt falsehoods and cults before many of you have even lied to yourselves about being "Christian." Facts. And what have YOU done for the Body? Absolutely nothing. Not even a certificate of completion. Don't even know the Hebrew or Greek alphabets.
Little children hanging on the sideline who do NOTHING for the Body, but whine and complain about everyone ON the play field and IN the battle ground … while you sit up with your feet in the air, drinking your coke sodas and swallowing your hot dogs, doing NOTHING, while the rest of us are actually WORKING for the Kingdom and dealing wit the threats and bearing the insults … while you pitiful fakes do nothing but COMPLAIN! And you think you will escape Judgment? Pathetic. JW will be the least of your concerns when you die.
And all this babbly about KJV Onlyist is all vain and unprofitable.
At least JW returns to center and focus' on JESUS!
As it is written, it is the preaching of the CROSS that is the Power of God … NOT debates and NOT a KJV Only mindset!
Thanks David for another insightful video :)
Thank you for these great videos.
You are an amazingly smart gentleman & a beautiful person.
God Bless you!
This video helped understand Bible "scholarship" a whole lot more, as well as Brandon Ginn's video about James White and Acts 8:37. Thank you, brother Daniels, and God bless you!
Where is the video? I can't seem to find it.
I will keep reading God's words in the King James Bible.
I'm learning...so blessed by this information....💕🔥
God bless you brother
Awesome as always. Thanks for showing how the End Times are really close. GOD Bless!
I'm praying that the ink of siniaticus would be tested.
Aaron Wine unfortunately just as with carbon 14 in dinosaur bones, I don't think they will do the tests.
Mr C, LOL, +1
I do not think many will even care.
Carbon dating doesn't work. They pick the numbers they like. A test of that nature would tow the offical line.
Great job, Dave.
Gail Riplingers "New Age Bible Versions" has been updated recently, I am reading it now.
Wow just what I was searching for. God bless you pastor!
Mr.Daniels God is working threw you, I will pray for your safety.. I wish Pastor like Matt Slick,G Craig Lewis, and many others knew of your work.. I still cant fully understand your disbelief in the nephilim,but ill take your word for it..Mr Daniels will you ever teach ???????...
I think that's what the videos are. :)
Chicktracts
hahaha..your correct...
*through
Harvey Abel
thanks.lol
The bill's in the mail!
They’re going to have to face God as their Judge one day.
Love your work, david. I've seen a talk by Don Patton discussing the existence of New Testament fragments among the Dead Sea Scrolls. Have you looked into that claim at all?
Ruth Allan - Very little. I'm so overwhelmed with the information on the big picture I keep finding out, that I haven't spent it on that claim. There are a lot of forgeries, however. That much is documented, even by the Israeli Antiquities Authority, so I'm not in a rush on them.
I can see that you are engaged in a vast, complex and worthwhile detective story and you have your hands full - wouldn't want to distract you for a moment, even if I could... I shall have to do some more research myself! Would be good if true though, yes?
Ruth Allan 💯
Good morning brother David I've been aware of Chick tracts in the materials for a long time but I would really like to start studying on the subject could you recommend some good books for me to get on the King James version and also having to do with it being translated from the original to English I actually talked with the pastor that said that God's promise of preservation was only for the original Greek and Hebrew that really blew my mind I would appreciate some advice on this thank you so much
I'm sorry that last comment should have read a book on the subject of the Bible being translated from the Greek and Hebrew into English and being done perfectly
The king James has been here for over 400 years. Maybe not on my desk but the Holy Spirit has been here for longer than that. He can tell you because he wrote it through his prophets and apostles.
Word! No Bible is going to be worth anything without the Holy Spirit alive in your life.
I am so excited about this video. The Holy Spirit led me to your site about a year ago and it has given me so much information so far. I was studying about 10 years ago when I realized the Lord was waking me to the fact that the King James Version Bible is the right Version, the only version that is not an attack on the Body of Christ. Your work on this video and on the other videos is such an inspiration to me, thank you David. God bless you.
Proverbs 1:25 But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof:
John 8:32 (KJV) And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
Thanx Doc.
Hearing the phrase "one world bible" makes me shiver
SO nice people like you is to be found....thanks brother in christ....kjv haleluja
Keep up the good work bro.Daniels
Why did the NKJV follow the TR text in places where the KJV departed from it? And why did the KJV translators stop using paragraph markers in the middle of the book of Acts to the end of the New Testament? And why did the KJV translators not always capitalize the Holy Spirit, leaving it often as spirit instead of Spirit?
Hi David, love the work you're doing, important question to ask; have you been able to find any verified writings of Simonides and been able to compare it to the handwriting in sinaiticus?
John 7:24 Don’t judge merely by appearance but judge by righteousness judgment
😳 Wow! Fascinating. Thank you for all this hard work and making it easy to understand! Whoa! "Vaccinated against health!" It's 2021 😳😳😳
Thank you sir!🇺🇸
Consider the words 'at nought' in the verses below and compare them with what has been and is happening with the Authorised Version of the Bible ... interesting!
Nice library in back
KJB and Reina Valera in spanish: Thank you Lord!
Learning something new everyday
Thank you. NASB and other versions Ruined my faith and family ... KJV is finally my understanding of God's word. If only I understood this as a young man.
wow wow wow God truly reveals the truth to spiritul Christians
You've made me think, good information
Thanks for sharing you research. It has often made me wonder why the minority texts ever were considered more accurate especially when they greatly contradict one another.
what version did KJV translated from ? The Textus Receptus ?
Very nice. Thank you.
Mark 9:12 And he answered and told them, Elias verily cometh first, and restoreth all things; and how it is written of the Son of man, that he must suffer many things, and be set at nought.
I thought a full copy of Mark was found that was dated to 80 AD. Did I remember that wrong?
Great video. thanks
Thank you for mentioning the ECM text project. Will your future vlog cover the CBGM project?
Thank you
only the truth seeker will have the wisdom of the spirit.
Looks that way, I've been searching for 30 years and the Lord revealed to me that the KJV is the correct version 10 years ago. I've been spreading the truth about it since then, but most of the "churches" today use all the books based on Sinaiticus. I thank the Holy Spirit for guiding me to David Daniels and the work at Chick. I am so elated by these finds of his, but then I realize that most of these newer Pastors and Teachers have been so indoctrinated into the Catholic texts, it saddens me that most people don't know what's happening. This sure looks like the very last hours of the last days, I am going to get tracts and give them out everyday. Praise you Father for David Daniels and the investigations he's been able to make. God bless you.
Thanks, brother!
Acts 4:11 This is the stone which was set at nought of you builders, which is become the head of the corner.
So what's this One World Religion going to teach? And how can it be based on Bibles that have verses and passages such as John 1:1, 1:18, 10:15-18, 10:27-30.34-39, 14:6, Romans 9:5, 2 Peter 1:1... I could go on. My NASB translation, or my ESV translation, or my German Menge or Elberfelder all teach me the gospel of Jesus Christ our Lord God and Saviour.
In order to teach a gospel that is twisted and "one-world" religion type, they would have to change a lot more in the manuscripts than what supposedly has been changed.
Correct! KJO people have turned the King James Bible into an Idol. People were believers of God even before there was any actual "written" books of the Bible. John1:1- In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. - The King James is not perfect, it does contain errors. It is a translation of man. This KJO is part of the reason why Bible scholar Bart Ehrman walked away from God.
Thank you david..! I suggest subtitel in at least 5 other languages would be very helpfull to spread your messages more wider and faster..
Great video!
Thank you, bro David for testing these documents. Proof that KJV is the only trusted Bible to still rely on.
Phew! Those days of persecuting the saints for proclaiming the true words of God are virtually upon us. Thank you for your zealous investigations, brother!
Sensational
Byz byz, Majority Text. Or so they think: Psalm 12.
Magnificent disquisition on the deceit of the one world religion proponents against the KJV bible. It's taken me years to really believe there is a Satan. Watching many of your videos has brought me to the conclusion that in fact, the KJV 1611 bible is the only trustworthy bible in English. Thank you so much David for moving me to certainty. The KJV has always been my bible of choice and I do believe that God gave me that version; I found it mouldering in a closet at work. It is so important that we trust what we read about the most important Person in the universe.
How do I buy your book?
Brother Daniel, I always wondered about the 'lost epistle' of the Laodiceans. What do you know about this 'lost epistle'?
God bless.
Colossians 4:16
"And when this epistle is read among you, cause that it be read also in the church of the Laodiceans; and that ye likewise read the epistle from Laodicea."
I'm not worried about anything the Lord did not want put into the scriptures. I have enough to do, placing my faith in what He DID want me to know. God placed what He wanted in His book. If they only discussed stuff that had nothing to do with doctrine, it makes perfect sense that God didn't have them keep and copy it. We can ask Paul about it when we get to heaven, if we aren't just so in awe that we forget all our questions, that is!
So I need to stick to TR or M and not let them beat on the BYZ? I am used to seeing the M or TR but I do hear a rise in the "BYZ" used in chat.
I’m confused. What’s the difference between the Majority and Byzantine manuscripts? I thought Majority was Byzantine? Also, what’s the real issue here?
The issue is changing the way the text is perceived. When it is called the majority text it solidly embeds the fact that it is the majority of texts. When they rename it they are trying to remove the impact of those words while at the same time inject the idea that these texts are later texts from a questionable source.
That's scary! King James Version only and all the way till Thy (God's) kingdom come.
Do you want to know something funny? I think apart from your videos there are only three more videos in the entirety of youtube that even mention Constantine Simonides, all of them from KJV apologists, of course, because they care about the truth and i applaud them for that. I mean, not even a biography or a mention to any of his many works? That's weird. Even the smallest names in history have at least a dozen videos explaining their lives. There's a lot of videos about Pyrrhus of Epyrus but almoust nothing about Simonides? Is like he is being erased from the website. Finding info about him using google is not a lot easier either. A few valid results are hidden under an avalanche of non related topics.
DuckDuckGo has been corrupted too for years. It’s useless
Can someone explain how in Acts 7:14 KJV It says what the Septuagint says but in Exodus 1:5 It's contradicts that in the Masoretic but not the Septuagint
Its the way its written. One says 75 total. The other says 70 because Joseph was in Egypt. Basically one counts his descendants in all the world. The counts his descendants locally and the rest were already in Eygpt. In essence the same thing said a bit differently becuase they were written in two different languages. God is real. I used to an athiest porn addict and drunkard but now Jesus has changed my heart and I see miracles on the street when I pray for people. Jesus still heals today. Repent the kingdom of heaven is near.
@@goodtreeministries3751 God is very real, I too used to be an Atheist.
Wish they had this Brother at PBI
Personally I like ESV. KJV is just too archaic.
Luke 23:11 And Herod with his men of war set him at nought, and mocked him, and arrayed him in a gorgeous robe, and sent him again to Pilate.
Good detail work. What about all this Myth stuff
Are they calling Section 4, the "Catholic Letters" to condition us that the Bible is Catholic?
Sharon Sharing - "Catholic" means "universal;" and these books are called that because they are neither addressed to a specific person nor a specific city church.
But since people love symbolism, you can't but wonder if they had some motivation with picking the "Catholic" epistles to start their more final edition of one world Bible.
Does the preface of 28th edition also tell us about the Vatican oversight?
They no longer need to. They already revealed it. it is a done deal. We are looking from the end of history, at what was done, not at the beginning of the movement, predicting what will happen. They are well on their way to eliminating all reference to the Majority, so they can "define down" the preserved-type vast majority as "Byzantine."
Chicktracts
correct, but I do find it suspicious that after all this time it took them up to the 28th edition to omit their previous confession
@Unashamed Workman A
How do you get a whole book of Mark from a piece of papyri? Wow
Trust the $cience
*Could you please tell me where was the perfect, complete, inspired, inerrant and infallible Word of God prior to 1611? Was it the Geneva Bible? Bishops Bible? Tyndale Bible? The Latin Vulgate? Or was it a hidden translation kept in a vault somewhere where only a a couple of people had access to? Did most people have access to it or only very few people? Or was there a ~1,500 years of no perfect Bible until the 17th century when God decided to finally give us His word* ?
Daniel Sarmas most people couldn't read then anyway, God made sure the word got in there hands in his proper timing.
KJV Onlysim refers to English Bibles only.
Nick Spitzley So for 1500+ years the Christians (many of them COULD read) didn't have access to God's Word? If so, then how can you hold to your doctrine of the preservation of the Bible, if the Bible was not preserved for 1500+ years? Do you really expect me to believe that God forget about His people for 1500+ years and that He later on decided to give us His Word through a 17th century Anglican translation mostly based on the text compiled by a Roman Catholic priest called Desiderius Erasmus? Sorry, but I can't buy such a fantasy.
Siya Manci I understand that. I was asking where was God's Word prior to 1611. It didn't exist?
Daniel Sarmas You are missing the point neah? The word was preserved. KJVO holds that the 1611 English bible is the final word of God-there is no need to edit or add in to it. In the English speaking world only. Romance languages had Latin which broke into French, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian and Romanian.
Bro David … all these things are NECESSARY, and your work is important. However, do not forget that the POWER of God is the PREACHING OF THE CROSS. Don't go toooo far to the right that you forget about teaching JESUS. Don't loose site, cause its easy to loose site after soooo many years of a particular thing and sticking to what you are strong in.
Yes, we need the "boorish" textual stuff, but if it lack JESUS, then you might as well be a secular college professor teaching religion, but has no relationship wit the Lord. Such a person will still see Hellfire in the end.
Yes, your work is important … but do not forget the whole reason why we are Christian. Don't fall away from the FIRST LOVE.
And yes, this DATE - SETTING madness is crazy. I've been telling people for years to throw the date setting stuff in the trash.
👏🏽
Ephesians 4:14 That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they [Bible corrupters] lie in wait to deceive;
Allan Coote
"Torture the data long enough and It will confess to anything."
God's Word in English is the KJB.
...there's only one God...He wrote only one Bible...
If the King James was good enough for Moses it is goog enough for me!
Hey, your KJ onlyism is showing.