1. The Majority Text: Divine Preservation and Christian Reason
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I do really like your videos about Bible translations but I’m not a Calvinist.
45:20 -> There is the "Analytical-Literal Translation of the New Testament -Third Edition" by Gary F. Zeolla (uses Robinson-Pierpont textual basis). Also there is the MSB (Majority Standard Bible).
Kongebarn has a good video to see. It's Proof that the textus receptus & traditional text preceeds the critical text.
Hey Pastor Matthew, is there any additional resources on the majority text position? Books? Scholars? Websites? Thanks.
God's breathed words already tell the unsaved how to be saved and born again believers everything we need for life and Holiness, beginning with hearing the Gospel of our salvation for faith, and justification and regeneration upon believing in Jesus Christ, then learning about all else that obtains under Grace. This is found in the New Testament Epistles specifically addressing the Body of Christ under grace not law.
Also, the Bible, all Bibles that teach the doctrines found in the NKJV, Niv, Esv, Lsb, Nasb, Csb, modern KJV, 1611 KJV, Nrsv, and other like Bibles, are fine ones as explained by the translators of the 1611 KJV in their letter to the reader, which, for some strange reason, has been removed from modern KJV's.
All fine translations also, refute false teachings like those of Roman Catholicism, Calvinism's 9 points-not just 5 called TULIP, Arminianism, etc. and cults like Seventh day Adventism, Jehovah's witnesses, Mormonism, etc.
We are truly blessed with a plethora of fine English translations.
Praise to God for the treasure trove of Greek New Testament Manuscripts, may the Lord Jesus Christ reveal even more mss., especially papyrus mss.
There are some Majority Text translations available and in the works: WEB (World English Bible), EMTV (English Majority Text Version; this one is a one man translation and digital only), and MSB (Majority Standard Bible) is currently in the works.
I like World English Bible (WEB), It's translated NT from Byzantine Majority Text.
I also like KJV, ASV, NET too.
Matt, you should start a podcast where you upload this type of content. Would really enjoy listening while on drives.
I agree!!
If you look at his Church's sermon podcast feed (Gospel Fellowship Presbyterian Church) on Spotify or elsewhere, he has uploaded the audio of a few recent videos. Enjoy!
There's an iPhone app called Tubecasts that I use to access these TH-cam vids in audio format. It's pretty convenient. Just copy and paste the url and it'll turn it into a podcast for you.
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The main differences are that streaming audio uses less data and you can lock your screen while it continues to play (without ads) and it’ll pick up where you left off if you pause it. It’s pretty useful.
Thanks for giving us your views on this important issue. Appreciate it.
Excellent content! I lean CT, but love many different translations. This video made the best and most comprehensible case for the MT position I’ve ever heard. Makes me want to read the KJV and NKJV even more than I already do. Almost thou persuadest me to become MT…
Having watched so many debates on this issue; this presentation by Matthew Everhard is by far the best & most logical one I’ve come across. He just makes so much sense! Would love to visit his church if ever I make it back to the USA from here in Australia. Absolutely love his TH-cam channel!
This was VERY informative. Thank you!
Thank you for this
World English Translations (WEB) is
1. Majority Text!!!!!
2. Traditional Renderings
3. Thoroughly contemporary
4. Public domain!!! No royalties or permissions, it belongs to the people.
Thank you for this!
Thank you very much!! You did it!
Wow this is great timing
Thanks Matt. Looking forward to finishing this up later.
Appreciate you brother.
Excellent!
Amazing. Thanks for sharing.
Thank you again, Pastor Everhard! This is brilliantly presented und very convincing!
I can't wait to listen to this tonight. thanks for doing this!
Loved it !
Thank you.
Luxurious in breadth and coverage. Really enjoyed. Thank you.
excellent video, Pastor Matt
Thanks for this.
This is excellent! Thank you for this.
Very helpful. Thank you.
So helpful!! Thankyou!!
Thank you Pastor. I listened to the whole thing. This position does make sense.
Thank you 🙏
I read the NKJV for the majority of my study and enjoy the ESV, NASB and Amplified Bible on the side. I am not a scholar, but I love the tools available today!
I also pray before my studies that the Holy Spirit will help me understand God’s Word.
Thank you for your vlogs. May God continually bless you!❤❤❤
NKJV is Textus Receptus while the others omit verses from the Bible because they are based on the Critical Text which keeps changing even though the Bible never changes. You may want to check out the MEV or even the earlier Geneva Bible.
Very well done.
Great video
Excellent video, brother. Has provided much food for thought as I consider these matters.
Thanks!
Thank you Matt, this was very helpful indeed. God bless you brother 🙏
Thank you
Thanks, Matthew. That was a great explanation and overview of the MT.
That was a good listen Pastor Matt, learned quite a bit.
So persuasive pastor. Thank you so much for this work.
Wow great video!
Gold! praise God for this! Please expand on this topic, this video will become a resource for many! Excellent!
Very good analysis
Awesome video, very educational! I've been going back and forth on the different manuscripts, this was very helpful. Thanks!
Great video, very informative.
Awesome job brother! I've been studying this issue year after year. I have came to the same conclusion. Great job!!
I appreciate your thoughtful and clear points in this video. I'm a TR guy, but I enjoy your charity and clarity!
Thank you Pastor Matt- The very best translation is the one you read or so says the old bromide. ( but not always). It is true that God has preserved his word and thus the majority text does answer that call, succinctly. Praise be to God for this and the NKJV.
Thank you for this well-reasoned defense of the Majority Text position.
Thank you very much for this. Been looking into this for a while now and this is the first time I've found clear and helpful information.
Thank you so much for this explanation. Very informative and helpful to those of us who are interested in translations.
Excellent job, brother. You have taken a complex issue and made it as understandable as any presentation I've seen. I have preached from the NKJV myself for over 35 years now, and I also simply explain significant differences in the texts when they arise. I have found that this approach has actually helped to strengthen my congregation's trust in God's word.
This video is gold! Thanks for sharing, Pastor Matthew. I do hope this minority position gains traction within scholarly circles and the Church as a whole. Love you lots, brotha!
Very nice presentation.
Most Excellent. Thank you for your scholarship and VERY CONCISE, CLEAR presentation. When first saved 38 yrs ago, my pastor was a Pennsicola Bible Institute grad. He left KJVO position through study and noted that Hills' deviation from evidence to mystical explanation for variant readings in the TR, which I too found after 4 readings. This was a great presentation
👍 great video!
Excellent presentation. One reason my favorite modern translation, while based on the Textus Receptus, is the NKJV, because it tells me the Majority Text reading, as well as other readings. I don't disparage the Critical Text, and I love translations based on the Textus Receptus, and not just the KJV, but the Tyndale, Coverdale, and Geneva Bible translations. I can have my cake and eat it, too, so to speak.
I have not gone to a Majority Text translation per se because the NKJV apparatus does it for me, but I have the ESV and NASB 77, and hope to own a Legacy Standard Bible soon.
Thanks so much for this video. The Majority Text view does it for me.
Well done Pastor! A clear concise explanation. I enjoyed it very much.
@MatthewEverhard I have never, as a Free Will, Dispensational, Baptist, agreed more on a textual issue with a Calvinist, Covenant Theology, Paedobaptist, than I do with you in this video. Excellently presented.
I love your "lopped off - toes" analogy! LOL!
One of the reasons I like the NKJV as my ‘foundation’ text.
I personally love the ESV, and it’s the translation my church uses.
The NKJV notes really help here, you get informed about it all.
I use the NKJV for my personal study and devotion as well. I love that it gives me all the textual variants so it's basically like having a TR with all of the CT and majority text variants.
I like the ESV too. But whenever I'm reading it I find that I really miss the italicized supplied words.
The Berean Standard Bible does the same from a CT perspective and, like the NKJV, largely avoids subjectivity but just notes the variant readings.
Put the ESV beside the KJV and compare. How many changes will you find? Ask yourself why? Whats been deleted and what's been added? Why?
Excellent video Pastor Matt!! This is just me but it is common sense to gather all the information one can and simply overlay rather than a finite view.
Awesome video, very useful info. I have over the years come to the Majority Text preferred view of manuscript families. This is one of, but not the only reasons, that I landed on the NKJV translation as my main. While I do enjoy others, I feel as though the NKJV is as close to an English Majority Text translation as we have in print, and the footnotes are only second to the NET imo, noting major variants across manuscript traditions. Unchanging/not updated, classic sound with modern English, and multiple editions from Thomas Nelson, it's a great all around translation. Very interesting video!
I agree JMac!
Using the WEB for the New Testament and MEV for the Old Testament might be even better for getting the true Majority Text in translation.
More and more agreement because of a steadily narrowing pool as we approach the present.
I was not familiar with this topic at all, Pastor Matt. Thanks for this presentation.
Thank you brother Matthew!
You have put the arguments fir the MT in a concise and understanding way for me . I’m at the moment in the CT camp but would like to see or hear a critic of this video from a worthy CR opponent such as Dr mark Ward or Dan Wallace , Dr James white or even Stephen Boyce .
You definitely have grabbed my attention with this video .
Amen
Solid analysis, Matthew. I agree with your take on Edward Hills' position. KJO advocates often laud his work but he is more a champion for the MT than the TR, as a careful reading of his work makes clear.
So WHY is there no published Bible that is solely based on the Majority Text? Maybe that will be answered in another video.
Thanks for this video! Very interesting thoughts. I usually hear that CT scholars are trying to figure out the why behind certain variants like did they "fix" a hard reading or was it an easy mistake to make or did they import marginal notes that were not part of Scripture or leave out marginal notes that were supposed to be in the text. I thought the geographical majority and the map of the journeys of Paul to be particularly compelling arguments for the MT.
I would also love to see a mainstream Bible based translation based on the Septuagint, as the Bible that Jesus and the Apostles quoted from (or the earlier Hebrew behind it).
God bless!
Scholars use unsound subjective criteria when deciding which "reading" is best. The #1 reason for trusting the critical apparatus of the Majority Text is its objective nature. Doctor Everhard's well-reasoned argument for the Majority is compelling.
I have been a MT advocate for years I didn't know there were others lol.
Be encouraged. There are many.
Jesus said search the scriptures they testify of me!!!
Excellent presentation wrote a book on the weakness of modern textual criticism by using a minority group of manuscripts in a local area
WOW!! What a blessing! Matt, this is the best summation of the Majority Text position I have EVER seen presented on TH-cam! When did you change your opinion regarding your preference for the Critical Text? And would you consider publishing your conclusions in book form? I think a lot of preachers and even some laymen would LOVE to have a documentary resource from the Majority perspective to refer to when discussing difficult readings or the differences between English translations!
Love this, Matt. I use the NKJV because I feel like it gives me the best of both worlds, although I often consult the CSB and LSB.
I would love to hear you and James White discuss these points. Thanks for the presentation. Excellent!
I’m a TR guy but, man, this is mighty persuasive for MT
Thank you so much!
Agreed on the curious disparagement of the manuscript tradition by so-called Confessional Bibliologists
Very straightforward presentation of the Majority text. I’ve been trying to find a purely factual source of information in a SEA of KJVO and anti-KJVO people. No I do not believe that the KJV is the only translation. I just cannot get behind that. What I can get behind is the Majority Text position (which I’ve just learned about through this video) because it appears to be a very thorough treatment of our manuscripts. This position check out to me.
World English Bible is a Majority text (I believe Robinson Pierpont),but it hasn't been picked up by a major publisher. I wish it would.
Isn't it, though, largely done by one person? If so, proceed with caution.
WEB is majorly text yes,also Modern Literal Version (MLV) is MT
I recently came across a video about a version called "The Sovereign Creator Has Spoken"; this is technically a Majority Text version, but it's based on KJVO-style logic - since Family 35 or Kr manuscripts are the most consistent, an NT based only on those manuscripts, rather than on the TR or some harmony of all Byzantine text manuscripts best exemplifies the doctrine of God's preservation of His Word.
This is absolutely amazing! What translation would you recommend for someone looking into a Majority Text Bible translation? Also do you happen to have any books on the subject?
Like bros Peter Masters, Joel Beeke and Henry Morris, I am KJB preferred….
I attend an ESV church…
Bless you
This is so interesting!
Thank you.
Does anyone know if the WEB (World Englsih Bible) that I see online is based on the Majority Text?
Yes it is, I use it at the moment,the Modern Literal Version (MLV) is also based on the Majority Text
What material should we read to learn more about the Majority text position?
Just for my understanding, does the MT include the Alexandrian and Western texts among the manuscripts considered, or is it just the majority of Byzantine?
Also what is the date range for the MT manuscripts that are considered? I assume there has to be some kind of a cutoff.
Thank you for a helpful and well reasoned explanation of a very difficult subject. QUESTION: Are there Greek-English Interlinears based on the majority text? And if so, what?
Thank you so much. I was wondering if the Arabic Bible Van Dyck translation followed the TR, MT or CT ?
My main critique is that just because something is the majority doesn’t necessarily make it right; we can look at the current political situation in the US to know that that is true.
Let’s take the long ending of Mark for example. I wouldn’t’ call myself a critical text advocate, but we’ll put me in that camp. Let’s say we found the original gospel of Mark that he wrote with his own hand, and we could know that for certain, and it contained the long ending of the gospel of Mark. My position on the long ending of Mark would change instantly. But by contrast, if the reverse were to occur, and the original that we discovered was found to not contain the long ending, the majority text position and the textus receptus positions would not change. That’s a huge problem.
From what I can understand, the "The Orthodox New Testament" published by Holy Apostles Convent is pretty much a Majority Text translation. It's the KJV modified to conform to the Constantinople edition of the Greek text, which is pretty much Majority Text.
I don’t know much about this stuff, but the arguments from the majority text sound convincing. To me, it makes sense if most manuscripts contain the verse then it’s probably the correct one. Is there any books or other resources for me to learn more for a beginner? Also, I can’t read Hebrew or Greek. God Bless! Appreciate the videos
Do you still feel this way? I can’t help but notice that you use the ESV a good bit these days. I’m not really sure where I land on this one yet.
Could you produce this list as a PDF or a for sale booklet?
I'm a majority text advocate and it's these type of arguments that lead me to that position. Hence, I read and study from the NKJV (closest popular translation to the Majority text).
NKJV is still Textus Receptus, but I believe it shows Majority Text and Critical Text readings in the footnotes. The only translation I know that could be considered majority text is the Eastern Orthodox Bible (New Testament only), which is translated from the Patriarchal Text of 1904 that used the Byzantine Text-Type.
You are correct. I will point out however that the Majority text differences are far far fewer in the NKJV than the Bibles that use the critical text thus making the NKJV closer to the Majority than the others.
WEB and MLV are majority text translations
Grace and peace from Brasil if you have this subject in PDF or another form send to me
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In my way of thinking the Majority Text IS the received text. As we received it from God!!
Which Majority Text?
Pastor, How much, then, percentage wise, is the ESV aligned with Majority text? Upper 90's?
Hi! What do you think about the 1 John 5:7 in the textus receptus?
Pastor Matt, what Bible in the MT. would you recommend?
What do you think about the legacy standard Bible, I just started using that as my primary translation?
I'm sure he'd like it. But as hes said, he's an advocate for the textus receptus/MT family.
He uses translations such as Esv and others I'm sure. So he isn't against them. He also believes they are good translations. But would prefer the KJV family of scripture.