People keep comparing Matt to Borat, but this comparison is inaccurate. Borat asked normal people absurd questions to put them in uncomfortable situations. In contrast, Matt asks absurd people perfectly normal questions.
Yes, real debates. I LOVE a good debate but they're so hard to come across now because this neo-Left absolutely cannot handle different perspectives or sharing conflicting ideas to see where we can find common ground. They've become so hungry for hate and disagreement that now they seek it out or create it because their tolerance has become so high that they need more than what's organically out in an imperfect society
Wow. Two adults having meaningful conversation on several topics, potentially contentious, and agree on some and disagree on others. Great job. This is the way.
We used to have this until quite recently. I'm a Conservative and all of my friends irl are more left-leaning. But our friendships mean more than our political views, so are able to remain friends. We're middle-aged and it's probably more common amongst GenXers to have differing opinions but still respect each other enough to accept one another as we are. Afterall, we grew up in the political incorrectness, crude humour, insulting each other but still maintaining friends era.
This is how normal and sensible people do things. :) It's truly disgusting how accepted and normalized the woke proto-fascists methods of constantly trying to shame, censor, ban everything and everyone that challenges their deranged ideology. It's not a coincidence they hate free speech.
@@RealChrisHatch regardless, the point is they disagree on a few important issues, but can be civil and discuss those differences and find COMMON ground. We need to return to this.
I love that when Matt and Jillian are disagreeing, you can see that as he presents his side of the argument she is actually listening and thinking about what he’s saying and gives some thoughtful and honest feedback. And same for Matt, he thoughtfully listens to Jillian. This is what discourse should be like. This was great, thank you both!
Yeah. As a lukewarm Christian myself, I would perhaps add that the more conservative ones tend to be less willing to make any sorts of compromises and it is less likely that they change their opinion during a conversation, because they feel like it's an attack on their faith. But at the same time, the conversation was respectful on both sides, which I can appreciate a lot. The media image of USA is that not many people are willing to discuss someone of opposing beliefs in a good faith conversation. It's great that there are still some role models (with some influence) to look up to.
This is what we lost in our colleges....this sort of dialogue...both are decent people...after the debate and discussion...go out to eat or have a drink together.....talk family and other topics....we don't have to hate each other because we disagree. Obama said though...if you disagree, GET IN THEIR FACE!!! people have been doing just that...feels like it started there.
I gained so much respect for Jillian not only for having Matt on but having an honest and thoughtful conversation with him. Not fishing for soundbites or gotcha clips but truly trying to understand his perspective. It's unbelievably refreshing and exactly what our country needs. Thank you!
I feel the same. I really wasn’t at all into the physical training stuff but wow Jillian has a great talent for interviewing, critical thinking, speaking, etc.
I would vehemently disagree with her assertion that there was "only one black family on TV" when we were kids. The Jeffersons, the Cosby show, Sanford and Son, Good Times, Family Matters, Gimme a Break, A Different World, Different Strokes (well ok, a mixed family), What's Happening Now, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.. there were TONS of great shows starring black people in the 80s and 90s.. I should know, I watched them all! Any assertion otherwise is completely incorrect.
@@pfarabee omg... i just wrote the same comment. I hear this with women saying they had no role models. And i think Margaret Thatchrr, mother theresa, lady diana, sandra day o connor... its liie people have tunnel vision
Blacks are about 13 percent of the US population, not 50 percent. Yet I would say in the 90's there were more shows than their 13 percent population. All the shows you mentioned. I never understand this 50 percent representation demand, when they are not 50 percent of the population. Whites were 80 to 90 percent of the population until the 2000's when migration from other countries became so overwhelming!!
@charlie81dbz jus like the definition of racism a new added definition was added within the past few years that added the "prejudice plus power" which was NEVER im the definition of racism before. And IMHO it was added to help keep the division alive... between white and blk.
@@zenzorkle5160what’s so wild is, I’m a 32 year old male. And racism to me has ALWAYS been “you deem your race to be superior to another” - IE - racist.
I was a "gay rights" activist long before it became the alphabet rainbow. My sister was the first lesbian to get married on television in Quebec, before gay marriage was allowed. I was "happy" for her. But her marriage was a bit of a stunt, and lasted less than a year, because they were both druggies looking for attention. My sister has been sadly single ever since, "looking for love in all the wrong places"... But I was never an advocate for gay "marriage". I've explained my position to my friends. I do agree that if we have a surplus of orphans, then ANY couple who can "pass the test" of adoption should be allowed to, no matter who they sex with. Adoption is a difficult process, and I think the adoption process needs fixing. But I am against gay "marriage" in principle, I'm also against "spousal benefits" for non parents. It's a cooptation of motherhood perks. Having your husband's healthcare and power of attorney was not for "living together as a couple" it was for the CHILDREN. Our world is fuked up. I also disagree with fertility treatments, the principle should be: If you can you shouldn't. No way I approve of my income tax paying for "gay fertility treatments". Surrogacy should be banned.
I was thinking the same... growing up, it was always the definition "between a man and a woman "... the fact that she forgot to mention that part made me wonder if she knew or did it on purpose to make her case. 🤷♀️
This was great conversation. I’m a conservative Christian that lives for Jesus. Matt and Jillian were both so honest, respectful and calm through conversation. So refreshing 😊 you can still be friendly, kind and still disagree!
@@melissa-wz6uj Matt made a great point about a husband who has desire for another woman and wants to have an affair. Not all desires should be viewed as created by God and not all desires should be pursued.
@amazingjason455 how is that a good point? A husband who has desires for other women/affairs can still have sex with and be married to his wife. Refrain from cheating for a heterosexual person just means "don't have relations with someone else, but you still have your wife" But according to Matt's faith, a gay person has to refrain from sex and marriage altogether I.e. no lover/partner for the gay people because scripture says it's an abomination. It's not a fair point to make at all.
@bevanhartley4090 why isn't it fair? That is what Christians have historically believed for 2000 years. You don't have to agree but if you what to be a Christian we agree that the Bible is the final word on faith and behavior. Look at it in reverse if I say it is unfair that you believe what you do. Is that allowed for you but me?
Matt Walsh is a gem. He’s fighting against mentally unstable men in our daughters’ locker rooms. He’s fighting against racism (we should be judging people on their character, not skin color). And he’s fighting for freedom of speech and against censorship. This is America and the Left has completely flipped objective truth on its head. Thank you for the open discussion with him. It’s what we need more of.
I never expected Jillian to pop back up on my radar for discussions like this. I'm very glad this was a respectful discussion. Thank you Jillian for setting a great example for how to have a discussion with someone who you don't see eye-to-eye!
I just watched this interview, and I have to say-Jillian, you were an absolute class act! This is the first time I watched one of your podcasts. I went in with some assumptions, especially knowing there would be different perspectives, but the conversation was such a great example of respectful dialogue. It was refreshing to see so much common ground. Even when you reached topics like gay marriage, where you two couldn’t quite meet in the middle, you both handled it with maturity and respect. You allowed Matt to fully express his views without interrupting, and he did the same. Your openness and respect shined brighter than any specific point, and it’s clear you genuinely care about fostering thoughtful discussions and are willing to listen without judgement. Every podcast host could learn a lot from this interview- this is the kind of dialogue we need more of today! Thank you for setting such a high bar!
@@GlennWD The one thing I wish would be explored on the marriage issue is, what if all the civil protections and responsibilities associated with marriage were passed on to all similarly committed couples, but use a different name for the union, would everyone be happy. IDK i just think it's something to be explored, that unfortunately there wasn't enough time to cover.
I dont care about your sexual preference in fact I find it strange to wear it on your shoulder… no one cares and it’s weird to share with people all the time
I am in agreement with Matt in virtually all these points. That said, I admire Jillian and her willingness to have the discussions with those she has philosophical differences with. I appreciate the respectful manner in which she interacts with the guests. One of my favorite TH-cam subscriptions.
@@JackMSheridan OK - But how does your opinion of her side of the debate dispute my point of her "her willingness to have the discussions" in a "respectful manner"? She has her beliefs (some of which I disagree with) but she's not a George Stephanopoulos or Sean Hannity who talk over their "opponents"
Excellent conversation! I appreciate your vulnerability Jillian, finding the common ground as humans. I can tell the discomfort on both sides, yet the willingness to discuss and agree to disagree is so admirable! Love it!!!
We need to be clear that most of these critical race theories are not being pushed by people of color, but rather by white liberals. Specifically, white liberal women.
The gay marriage discussion was two different discussions trying to occupy the same conversation. Matt was using the traditional definition and talking about the foundation of society and culture. Jillian was using a modern definition, specifically re-written to avoid the traditional definition, and was talking about the nitty gritty of tax benefits, hospital visitation policies, and how the family court system might treat her differently if she wasn't legally married in the eyes of the court. I kept waiting for either of them to recalibrate so that they were both on the same map, but it never happened.
I feel like i see this happen a lot when people of opposing views discuss a topic. There isn't a moment really to discuss terms and definitions that were being played with, so this massive misunderstanding stands between the two sides. As the audience, its hard to watch sometimes when this happens, wishing there was a moderator or that we could reach through the screen and set them straight so they could continue a genuinely interesting conversation.
@@viva.discordia gay people do have a fundamental disconnect about what marriage means, yes. Matt only ever tries to define the meaning of that word, and the very meaning of the word excludes all gay people, end of story. You can be gay and call that a marriage but its simply not. loving partnership, sure. But it will never be a marriage.
@@dawnsamantha6728 completely agree, I respect how both made their points with attacking each other personally and kept it respectful. They both demonstrated what all debates/conversations should look like.
In reference to the people who think minorities cannot figure out how to get an ID or get access to the internet, Rush Limbaugh brilliantly called it "The soft bigotry of low expectations." Perfectly describes what they are doing.
@@tammimesce it's like they're calling them jungle bunnies, demonstrating the same exact bigotry that gave rise to that type of term in the first place. They're just as racist cloaked in their sweet concern.
@@elizabethporter6398that clip Jillian showed of the young white people (mostly girls) being interviewed showcased some of the most racist crap I've ever heard in my life.
Jillian, You freaking amaze me. During this podcast you show yourself as being yourself and not fake. You are not trying to be perfect in your conversation you are just being human. For you to open up dialog and actually have a conversation about things ppl disagree on is what this country needs more of. To see ppl that disagree and not hate each other is paramount. I Really appreciate you . We have seen too much hate lately and it's time for us to come together,be real with each other and deny the narratives that the media pushes. You are very genuine and authentic . Your aura is contagious. Thank you🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
@@eggbass yes!! We have lost the art of listening to learn/understand. Also just because we might fundamentally disagree on an issue, it does NOT mean that you are my enemy and we have to now hate one another. As a nation, we need to relearn how to agree to disagree and still find a way to, if not, be friends at least be respectful of one another.
THANK YOU Jillian for an intelligent, civilized and entertaining conversation with Matt, who I respect tremendously. You're willingness and sincerity regarding having conversations with people you don't always agree with is EXTREMELY necessary in our society. Seriously, this was such a pleasure to watch.
Fantastic conversation and I’m glad this came across my feed. As a Matt Walsh fan, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jillian sitting down with Matt and actually hearing him out. They found some common ground and agreed to disagree on other points and that’s what it’s all about. Everyone needs to go back to being able to not align without getting hateful.
MATT WALSH WILL NEVER HAVE A SIT DOWN LIKE THIS WITH PEOPLE LIKE TARIQ NASHEED.. HE PLAYS IT SAFE. QUESTION, MATT WALSH.... WHEN DID SYSTEMIC RACISM END.. POST THE DATE.. AND WE WILL IGNORE ALL THE BLACK AMERICANS AND WELL DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE THAT CAN PROVE YOU WRONG.. THIS IS WHY YOU SAY YOU DON'T BELIEVE.. PLAYS IT SAFE.. AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SLAVERY AND CHATTEL SLAVERY YOU NUT-JOB.... BUT THIS CLOWN FROM THE DAILY RACIST WIRE KNOWS THIS.... ANOTHER THING.. WHITE ANGER AGAINST INJUSTICE IS OK.. BUT BLACK ANGER AGAINST INJUSTICE IS FROWNED UPON.. THEN AGAIN...WHAT DOES ONE EXPECT FROM A NATION BUILT ON LAND THEFT GENOCIDE AND CHATTEL SLAVERY BY A NATION OF RACIST SINNERS.. THE UNITED SNAKES OF HYPOCRISY.
Is it "agree to disagree" if Matt thinks gay people are going to hell? He's a religious fundamentalist who thinks his beliefs should be imposed on other people. He's right about "anti-racism" though.
Jillian, I am a conservatist and I love your show because you do allow for this kind of discourse! Not many people have the guts to invite people they don't agree with without insulting them.
@@chamboyette853If you see that right leaning people are open to have civil discourse with those of opposing views then may I ask why you are so far left? In my experience it's the left who go all in on stoking division. The right seem much more interested in unity which is why former Democrats like Tulsi and RFK jr. have joined with the Trump team. Never saw that coming!!
@@jaycarver4886 Just becasue they left has a bunch of assholes doesn't mean that their ideas at the base are bad. Sure, the DEI and race baiting horrible. So is the border. But I am very much for strict laws regarding the environment because if we don't things will be much worse in the future.
@@jaycarver4886 I appreciate that some conservatives are willing to have discussions with those who have differing views - like what Matt just did with Jillian. However, many conservatives are still in favor of gay people being denied rights - among a myriad of other policy decisions I disagree with.
@@Kiabeth711no it's cause rational ppl cam and should have discussions especially when opinions differ. Liberals for the most part are not a fan of dialogue
I am a fan of Matt's and that's why I watched this. I must say it was so refreshing to see a conversation between 2 people who differ in opinions having a calm rational conversation!!! Thanks for doing this interview Julian
Jillian, while I share Matt’s views… I really really like you and I really really admire you for having this tough conversation ever being so open and not being offended but just wanting to bring this discussion to the table. This is so refreshing! This is how I wish all Americans could sit and talk.I just want to hug you both! Thank you again for doing this. It was really beautiful to see you both. Discuss your views and the way that you did. Bless you!
I think this is how most Americans do sit and talk, just not TV people and politicians who benefit from creating division. It’s one of the reasons I love TH-cam, you’d never get real conversation like this on tv.
Wow, much Respect to Jillian. It shouldn’t take real guts to have an honest discussion about DEI and race, But it is SO risky to anyone in the public eye. She’s the real deal
@@shameiti Not so sure i agree with you on that. I’ve seen some pretty racist people who claim not to be racist. White people who say they only want to be around other white people. Why would you feel that way unless you thought there was something wrong with people of other races? Something inferior about them.
That's not a true statement at all. Many racists proudly admit it, and welcome that as part of their identity. Many join racist groups or gangs, naming their group after their proud racist beliefs.
@@betsybabf748 You just proved that - The comment was people thinking am I being racist as a point of concern and self checking - the diehard racists dont ever feel concerned by thier actions.
I loved this Jillian! I respect you deeply for having this discussion with Matt. You lead by example and you demonstrate how to discuss difficult topics with Matt. I wish the main stream media could do what you’re doing. The MSM needs to go out of business! Podcasts like yours and Matt’s should take over the honest job of journalism. You are doing a wonderful service for our society.
what I liked most about this interview or conversation is that when each of you were talking and trying to articulate a perspective, the other person was quiet and listened. It was refreshing, and 👍 to both of you for that. I watched the whole thing and I seldom get through 1.5 hour TH-cams.
Yes, I think so too! I myself an immigrant in a European country, remember following Obamas rise to presidency and I was so happy for the us! I thought wow they’re going to solve there race problem! How wrong I was.😢 it all went downhill. So this time around I’m seeing trump, very unlikely candidate for peace but I’m more hopeful 🙏
@@captkeebz every one and every thing racist -you saw more this week demanding black males vote for kamila- the guy is clown - speaks better than kamila makes more dangerous
@@captkeebz all these race wars, where before people were coming more and more together. Rise of homelessness, all these looting and burning! Lawlessness, no bail, criminals go free. School indoctrination for everything sexual, turning all those kids into Transformers, who would’ve been normal gay or autistic. ….
“If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.” - Maslow. Racists, race grifters and people who do genuinely suffer from racism tend to see problems as race based, even when they are not.
I really don't think the motivation of these people is an innocent one. They are creating a problem on purpose and selling the solution to the problem they created. This is by design.
I was an out lesbian from age 17-34. The argument for me against gay marriage is the simple fact that it has directly led to the gender crisis we see affecting kids today. That slippery slope that everyone, including myself at the time, claimed didn’t exist came down like an avalanche the minute gay marriage was legalized. The left NEEDS something to push against for “progress” sake, and they came for the kids like they swore they wouldn’t do.
@@Lewis_1-r4t at 34 I found myself in the middle of a messy divorce with my wife of only 6 months. That’s when I met the man who is now my husband. Now, at 40 years old, I don’t really have any attraction towards women with rare exception.
I’m a gay dude, and I have perspectives that hold up traditional marriage just cause I think it’s how God organized things (ideally) for the purposes of growing and replenishing the earth. Of course there are exceptions and situations where is not ideal. We could have a “good, better, best” discussion on that. I just know that whatever I have with a man…I don’t see it as “the same as” a marriage.
It's the logical conclusion of feminism generally. Feminism took the simple truth that men and women have equal value and twisted it to say man=woman. That leads to gay marriage, transgenderism, and all the rest of them
I don't think people were born gay I think it's a choice in fact when you find God and you truly are saved I would argue you no longer want that old life and you see the hypocrisies and the evil in this world for what it is
That's right Matt - there were people who came onto the scene in the late 90's/ early 2000's to introduce a mix up of racism. I was in public high school in 1999, and we were all integrated. I'm a white girl, I had a Hispanic boyfriend, and all of my friends were my fellow cheerleaders, who were all different races. These were my FRIENDS. But one day we had an assembly about race, and afterwards, everyone was scared of everyone else. Riots broke out, and I experienced my 1st school lockdown. Days following, we all just walked through the halls with our heads down, alienated from our friends, unsure of who we were allowed to talk to (or not). It was like someone came in and shook us all up and made us believe that we were each other's enemies. Really, the one who shook us up was the enemy.
That’s very sad on several levels. First that someone would seed discord into a community of teens is unforgivable. That impressionable teens would allow the discord to take root despite the long held friendships is sad but understandable given the youth of the indoctrinated. I hope y’all have been able to remake your meaningful relationships.
"I would rather be villainized than be infantilized and told I'm a victim." Amen to that! Being seen as the villain can encourage one to become strong, sexy, and confident whereas being seen as the victim encourages one to become a little bitch.
@@jamesg3808 wow, so true. Nothing is worse than a victimhood "poor me" mentality. When people take that mentality on, they don't realize that they are keeping themselves enslaved in their own minds.
Thanks for having open dialogue with people you disagree with. We used to do this all the time. And now people run from conversations out of either hate or lack of original thought/ good arguments themselves. This was great.
The problem is, they just had a friendly gabfest. No one laid out solid arguments or critiqued them. I guess just talking has become fraught? I agree that's not good. MSM choses who to promote like that, and never invites anyone who disagrees. It misleads people into believing the country is different from what it is.
One of the reasons this is a great POD. Also one of the reasons I like Bill Maher. I disagree with 90% of his views but the fact that he's able to have open conversations with people he disagrees with in a very respectable way is admirable and makes it worth listening to.
These two people, on opposite ends of how they view life, are so courteous and respectful towards one another it's mindblowing to watch (seeing as what I am used to). Many people, including myself, could learn a lot from how to engage in conversation and debate difficult subjects.
@@jonipilaske9841 No, in a few subjects they were not but on some they were. Yet they showed respect towards the other, a thing people could do if they wanted peace.
They are not opposite, they just disagree on one topic out of a hundred. And seeing people being polite while disagreeing shouldn't be "mindblowing". As I was growing up in the 90s, adults on TV (but also in real life) were expected to be polite all the time, not only with those who they agree with. I guess this is no longer possible due to the narcissism and the algorithm bubbles created by social media.
@@walter253 why is that? Because people nowadays like to insult each other rather than debate each other? Grown adults behaving like children are the norm now, not the exception.
@@Mjzen528 America is one of the most tolerable countries on the planet. All this race bs is created by liberals. An evil plot to divide us and many are to stupid to see it.
I am a white heterosexual male. The white part is the least important part of my identity. I am a human male, an individual. This is truly a battle between collective identity and individualism. The founding goal of the USA was to allow individual freedom.
@SkiesKurosawa There will always be dissent on any issue. We had people in the 1930s in the USA who declared as Nazis in support of Hitler. The best action is to expose their ideas as snake oil and embarrass them. Humanity just isn't monolithic. What is missing right now is that education has given up on transmitting the ideals you mention, so very few are landing there on their own. The more we teach liberty principals in school, the better things go. That said, you'll have to argue with the department of education on that.. I most certainly have no say there :(
@@StarLight-sl9ok Maybe 100 years ago? What’s your point? We should not be allowed to express our individuality today because others in the past weren’t granted the same opportunity?
Tremendous amounts of respect for both Matt and Jillian. We don’t have to agree on everything is correct. Jillian is an Amazing human and so is Matt and that’s all that matters
I’ve been a big fan of Jillian for years. Nutritionally, exercise and body building. It was years before I even knew she was a lesbian. I like that she does not glorify her lifestyle or push it on others. She’s so likable and so good at what she does, she must be a phenomenal mother as well. This probably isn’t coming out right because I’m not good at expressing myself. I am a committed Christian and I’ve been a Matt Walsh fan for years as well… I really enjoyed this show. Thank you! There was no competing for the listener. My heart goes out to Jillian as she is trying so hard to come to terms with what is right. I will be praying for her and her beautiful family.♥️
@@eeayquetting5963 still tho she’s not smart. She said we can see men as more dangerous than women cause stats but not black more dangerous than white. It’s completely contradictory
What a great conservation! Agreed completely with Matt in the first half, agreed completely with Jillian in the second half. So much respect for Jillian for having this long-form discussion.
Wow this was an amazing conversation. This may have been the first time I’ve heard someone talk to Matt about the gay marriage thing and come at it so earnestly. She was truly trying to understand his position and wasn’t taking his responses and views and a personal attack to her. I would pay money to just give these two a podcast to go back and forth I thought they had such a meaningful conversation.
Hats off to you Jillian Michaels. I commend you for speaking with Matt Walsh. The only way we are accomplish any progress in our society is for us to have a civil conversation and seek to understand each other. You are very articulate and patient. You allowed the guest to express himself in a non confrontational threatening environment. You push back appropriately and respectfully; which is important. I get so discouraged when people do not allow each other to speak. Thank you for having the courage to invite those demonized by parts of society. I agree with Matt on a lot of things as well. He makes some really good points.
I disagree with Jillian about “one black family on tv.” Almost every show I watched as a kid in the late 80’s through mid 90’s were comprised of mainly black casts. I can think of at least 15 off the top of my head. The Cosby’s weren’t even the first, just maybe the first middle/upper class black family on tv. Also, I’m a 40 year old white woman and I’ve been dismissed by doctors since I was an infant. It took 32 years to be diagnosed with celiac disease, which is a very basic test. I delivered 2 babies with no doctors present, because they didn’t believe I was in active labor. I had to beg for an endoscopy for 10 years because I was choking on everything I ate. They told me I was lying and I eventually was diagnosed with an esophageal disease. My son was laughed at by the ER doctor for saying he thinks he has T1D and was literally dying in DKA. He was sent home weighing 67lbs at 12 yrs old, puking his guts out, looking like a literal skeleton. We don’t have a racist healthcare system, we simply just don’t have a healthcare system.
The "marriage" issue is about equivalence. Matt is correct in that there is only one type of two-person human relationship that can procreate naturally: man and woman. It is worth sanctifying because it is the fundamental cornerstone of civilization itself. Jillian is right that other relationships exist outside that optimal pairing and are deserving of legal protection. The answer is simple: civil unions. Some European countries have figured that out.
Most European countries have gay marriage. So swollow it. Its called level plaining. Nothing wrong about that. Sorry but it is dicriminoitory because you will not get the same legal benifits.
Most European countries have gay marriage, not civil unions, because they have figured it out. Just like the act of annulment has two meanings, one in religion and one of a legal sense, so does marriage. A marriage can be recognized in a church but it is also a non-religious legal contract. As a Christian, but also an as attorney, I understand that Christians who want the term marriage to only be their religious use, for all legal purposes, are incorrect. It is one word, no one owns, with is uses in two systems, just like annulment has always been, without issue.
@@belgianbikeability7295 That's simply false. Only 21 out of 44 European Countries recognize "gay marriage". To be clear, no government should be recognizing any marriage. they should simply recognize civil unions. That would be a level playing field. Marriage is a religious or tribal ceremony and should remain as such.
This was SUCH a good conversation. I love it when reasonable people get together and can discuss differences with canceling, screaming, shutting each other down but with respect. I am a straight white married woman with 4 kids but I really enjoy listening to both Matt and Jillian. Thank you again for this Jillian!!
I have long admired Walsh's ability to discuss matters dispassionately with people he disagrees with. I also like that, though his beliefs are informed by his faith, he is able to make his case apart from faith to those who might not share his faith.
Amazing conversation!! Jillian I have followed you for over 20 years and I’m so glad you are speaking up and talking to people like Matt!! Both of my favorites!!! 🌟💪
Great conversation! Thank you for having Matt Walsh on your program. Excellent example of how a discussion between 2 individuals with some but not necessarily all differing positions should interact!
Yesss! This is my first time watching Jillian's podcast. I used to see Jillian at a popular eatery in Los Angeles; she's the real deal, good vibes. This conversation is so refreshing. I went to a watch party of the Harris/Trump debate near UCLA with a room full of Democrats cheering for Kamala. There were only three of us there who were conservatives. One guy tried to talk with a Democrat about the border. She YELLED at him for clapping when Trump said that open borders a problem. I tried to express my respect for RFKJ to another Democrat in the audience... and she became EN RAG ED. "Get away from me if you support Kennedy. He endorsed TR U MP! TR U MP! TR U MP!" She SHUT DOWN the conversation. We NEED conversations like these between Jillian and Matt. Jillian sets a good example for Democrats -- who have gotten in the habit of defensive hostility toward anyone who disagrees with them.
@@SoCalG310 The tolerance just isn't there anymore. It's dangerous to hate someone and also shut down communication. The parties are going through a transformation.
@Ol5tb Definitely. I think most of us are seeking the same basic tenets of a FREE and civil society -- not only in the US, but in the West, in general. The People came out in full force in Argentina to support Milei. I speak with Argentinians in Los Angeles who vote Democrat who support Milei, a Trump fan who has even used Trump's line to "Make Argentina Gr e at Again."
I really enjoyed that interview! I watch Matt’s podcast every day, and loved seeing him have a discussion with someone he doesn’t fully agree with. I thought they were both very respectful while not backing down from their beliefs. Really great watch, thank you both!
I am happily surprised to see how open Jillian Michaels is to this conversation. Good for her! Matt raises a lot of good points in his two documentaries and I’m glad to hear him talk about it outside his normal conservative media circles.
🥰 wow! So, I have been a Jillian fan for years AND I'm a DW member. I listen to Matt a few times a week. I loved this conversation. How smart and gracious these 2 are. Just a class act all the way around. Thank you, you two!
I m probably as conservative and Catholic as Matt. I don’t agree with Jillian’s perspective of gay marriage for similar reasons to Matt that I have arrived at on my own but I really appreciate Jillian’s ability to handle a different perspective in command of her emotions. They both listened well. She is a leader and I think this was a great example of what dialogue should look like. Very very impressive conversation.
@@drdoodlittle365 if an ID is required someone who doesn’t want you to vote can deny the authenticity of you ID. Older people often times don’t have an ID and some people don’t have the money to get a new ID.
Leftos don't think so they also say you cant do math...... These people have zero respect for black among other races it why Asian have it harder in school because they assume they are all smart.......
We don't have to hate eachother. We're supposed talk. Conversation is a privilege and a responsibility. Thanks to Jillian and Matt and every open-minded person who watches and shares this.
I almost never add a comment but I have to extend Kudo’s to you both for proving to the rest of America that two adults can have an intelligent and calm conversation. Express different points of view and actually find common ground on many things while disagreeing on others and doing it all in a respectful way. Thank you
Jillian has always been a voice of reason... I noticed this when I first found her long ago for workout videos and health advice. I absolutely love Jillian and so happy that she allows for respectable conversations to happen at all. Matt Walsh is killin' it with his funny, thoughtful and honest approach to opening up people's minds! This is the podcast I needed today.
Love Jillian for doing this. Well done. Our democracy is buttressed by finding common ground. Truly remarkable conversation. 💜 How do you spell MATURE? This is it.
@JillianMichaels this is awesome. I love both you guys and Matt cracks me up. I have followed you for years with fitness stuff (got the old videos and dvds)!!! And I am loving these convos you are having! The fda one was amazing too!! Go girlfriend!!!
@@rosemaryalles6043 It was very superficial, and Walsh uses a common trick: he brings up bad arguments concerning race and racism (and let's agree he has tons of bad ones to choose from) to pretend there is no good case to be made on the subject. People forcing a poor vaccine on everyone did the same thing. "There is no computer chip in the shot!!" That doesn't prove safety or effectiveness. Bill Gates and Lady Gaga just made a documentary doing the same thing. "We aren't lizard people!" That doesn't prove Gates isn't corrupt, when we have good reason to think he is. It's a common trick. It usually works.
Is there something about Walsh that makes people talks about their own issues rather than him, he's supposed to be the guest. Just saw Rogan going on about a faked moon landing. He's obviously a good listener.
1:05:04 - This was a fantastic thing to see as a Southern Baptist. Thank you Jillian for being brave enough to have an honest conversation about this topic. I see it differently than Matt and you, but it's that you allowed him to speak freely about it, while speaking honestly back at him in the manner that you did that makes me feel so encouraged as an American.
Jillian, thank you for this. I'm old enough to remember when a respectful discussion was the norm and not the exception. Beautifully done. I keep going back to the word "respect" in my mind as I watch this. Well done, you two.
It is so refreshing to have a host who is genuine and respectful of guests that disagree. This was the most courteous discussion of tense topics that I have seen in years. Thank you, Jillian Michaels, for being the peace making host our country desperately needs. This was a beautiful episode. It was my first time watching your channel and I'm definitely subscribing!
Jillian!!!! Keep this content coming!!!!! This is exactly what we need. I think that having Matt Walsh on as one of your early guests was brilliant, and it shows what this channel will be about. Bravo!
I watched this movie on the weekend and it was hilarious while simultaneously destroying the DEI narrative. One of the few movies out there appealing to both the left and the right. I think it illustrates the truth that there is, largely, no racism except that pushed by the media. I'd go so far as to say there is no race, other than the human race!
Nah. . race is real. There are many different races and ethnicity's and they differ both on the outside and inside. It's foolish to think all humans are the same. Birds of a feather flock together. This "diversity" experiment has set us on a course of disaster. The more diverse we become the more divided we become.
@@Republitarian-g4h exactly! It's manufactured, though, to keep us fighting each other. There is no real difference between humans under the skin, imo.
We may differ on opinions, but I admire you greatly for having an honest, open-minded discussion with Matt. This was truly entertaining and thought-provoking.
Thank you, Jillian, for being willing to have tough, personal conversations without getting offended and pissed. People with differing opinions can't productively discourse if hate/anger is always the outcome. This was so respectful, great job.
This was beautiful to see and really gave me hope.I had hoped that once the election was over things might calm down a bit but a quick glance at social media shows the contrary. This is the way that two sides debate and the more of this type of discourse we can have the healthier our country and society at large will become. Thank you guys for doing this!
Jill. Thank you. You are the first left leaning person I've seen on TH-cam who dares to have an open conversation with someone who doesn't necessarily agree with you. Bravo! There's hope for our country.
SBG here. Thanks Jillian, I appreciate you for doing this! Matt is amazing. and now I know you are amazing too because you had an honest, inquisitive conversation with him. Even if we disagree on things we can still love and listen to each other 💖
"What is wrong with me? When did I lose the ability to be human?" Great lline and soo true! This is what dividing people looks like... it dehumanizes others and ourselves. I have felt this too and I have never heard anyone artoliculate it as well as Jillian just did.
Jillian is a babe. Love the way she asks questions from the opposite point of view in respectful and constructive way. And of course Matt answering like a gentleman. Awesome conversation!
It’s nice to see this conversation. I respect Jillian Michaels as a personal trainer and a leader in the health & fitness industry. I appreciate that she is willing to hear/listen to a perspective that disagrees with her own. This is how civilized people behave. Imagine that- communication doesn’t equal violence…go figure.
First time I've ever listened to this channel and I'm very impressed by the conversation and Jillian Michael's ability to have a great conversation and willing to respectfully disagree.
As a black Latino (not that it matters), l appreciate this conversation. In my personal experience l have never seen nor have l ever experienced racism in this country. Hopefully we can now unite and put the "race issue" behind.
@@joelrodriguez1232 I find it hard to believe that you have never seen racism in this country. If you haven’t seen racism in this country your eyes are closed.
@joelrodriguez1232 I've seen excellent black employees paid less and abused and white ones in the same job category who aren't as good treated great. Yes more than one time. MANY times. I've been in a group of whites where the first thing they gripe about is race -- MANY times. Does that count? My father didn't come across as white to everyone, and I saw what that meant. It was tiny, but when we lived in Paris, it never happened. It was gone. Zero is better than tiny. I admit I was surprised. (I still don't really know what to think about that. Maybe we should have stayed?)
@@joelrodriguez1232 Somehow I don’t believe that. There are racists on TH-cam who will claim to be a person of color, make their thumb nail and name look like those of a person of color then make a comment yours. There was a whole story about that happening actually on TH-cam.
Great conversation! I was excited to see you invited Matt on your show. I do not agree with everything Matt has to say but I appreciate his consistency and of course his sarcastic humor.
Jillian, I just love that you bring on guests with different viewpoint , and you have civil conversations with them. There is no yelling, or I'm right, you're wrong type of conversation. Just two adults sharing their viewpoints and sometimes agreeing to disagree. That's the way conversations should be. Also, I love that you even admit that some things you just don't know and haven't looked into it. You're the best!
Maybe growing up in LA you were only exposed to one tv show with a black family but growing up in Texas, we were exposed to numerous shows with black families. Sanford & son, the Cosby s, Family Matters, the Jefferson’s and I’m sure I could come up with others if I sat here and thought about it. 🤷🏻♂️
What are you talking about these were public shows on public TV they were everywhere the only thing that was in LA was the lgbtq gay rights movement a lot of those people in those gay cities like San Francisco we're allowed to be more flamboyant than other cities where you grow up does play a role in how you interact with the world but some things are just fundamentally based a man is a man a woman is a woman in a marriage should be between a man and a woman
@ You ask me what I’m talking about then write a response like you did.🤣🤣🤣I said nothing about gay rights or marriage. Perhaps grammar and sentence structure is taught differently depending on where you’re raised as well. Holy sh!t🤦🏻♂️
People keep comparing Matt to Borat, but this comparison is inaccurate. Borat asked normal people absurd questions to put them in uncomfortable situations. In contrast, Matt asks absurd people perfectly normal questions.
This made me laugh out loud. It’s sad something so funny is true.
I can't stop laughing!
FACTS!!
I've heard Borat is stitched together such that any reality of any scene is in doubt.
Yess!
It is interesting how Matt almost never interrupts…and if he is interupted, he just leans back and listens, in the main. Wish I was more like that.
@@jtthompson0520 I really appreciate that comment the mark of a truly wise, loving, and honest man.
Shows how an adult should act when speaking to another. Lack of respect for someone speaking is lack of respect for that person.
Yes, real debates. I LOVE a good debate but they're so hard to come across now because this neo-Left absolutely cannot handle different perspectives or sharing conflicting ideas to see where we can find common ground. They've become so hungry for hate and disagreement that now they seek it out or create it because their tolerance has become so high that they need more than what's organically out in an imperfect society
Me 2😊
Women always have to interrupt lol
Wow. Two adults having meaningful conversation on several topics, potentially contentious, and agree on some and disagree on others. Great job. This is the way.
We used to have this until quite recently. I'm a Conservative and all of my friends irl are more left-leaning. But our friendships mean more than our political views, so are able to remain friends. We're middle-aged and it's probably more common amongst GenXers to have differing opinions but still respect each other enough to accept one another as we are. Afterall, we grew up in the political incorrectness, crude humour, insulting each other but still maintaining friends era.
This is how normal and sensible people do things. :)
It's truly disgusting how accepted and normalized the woke proto-fascists methods of constantly trying to shame, censor, ban everything and everyone that challenges their deranged ideology. It's not a coincidence they hate free speech.
@@jbllora Refreshing, isn’t it?
they have common ground: they both think Cali has jumped the shark.
After Obama race baiter, conversations changed. Pinpoint exactly when things began to change. It all leads back to the American apology tour he made.
This is how the left and right need to talk. This kind of respectful conversation can make change.
this is not the "left vs right" lol
@@RealChrisHatch regardless, the point is they disagree on a few important issues, but can be civil and discuss those differences and find COMMON ground. We need to return to this.
@@skeletalremains3860 ''we''dont need to return to shit mate. ''they'' do.. I never stopped being civil. they did.
The left is completely incapable of having conversations like this
This doesn’t seem left vs. right to me. But Americans make every issue political
I love that when Matt and Jillian are disagreeing, you can see that as he presents his side of the argument she is actually listening and thinking about what he’s saying and gives some thoughtful and honest feedback. And same for Matt, he thoughtfully listens to Jillian. This is what discourse should be like. This was great, thank you both!
@@salamandercind2729 yup, 2 grown adults acting like grown adults. The screeching, blue haired weirdos can learn a lot from this. Great example.
Yeah. As a lukewarm Christian myself, I would perhaps add that the more conservative ones tend to be less willing to make any sorts of compromises and it is less likely that they change their opinion during a conversation, because they feel like it's an attack on their faith.
But at the same time, the conversation was respectful on both sides, which I can appreciate a lot. The media image of USA is that not many people are willing to discuss someone of opposing beliefs in a good faith conversation. It's great that there are still some role models (with some influence) to look up to.
I love how respectful and sweet Jillian is, I have so much love and respect for her after seeing this interview ❤️🙏
W0wEE ! Two adults acting like adults ! ❤
This is what we lost in our colleges....this sort of dialogue...both are decent people...after the debate and discussion...go out to eat or have a drink together.....talk family and other topics....we don't have to hate each other because we disagree. Obama said though...if you disagree, GET IN THEIR FACE!!! people have been doing just that...feels like it started there.
I gained so much respect for Jillian not only for having Matt on but having an honest and thoughtful conversation with him. Not fishing for soundbites or gotcha clips but truly trying to understand his perspective. It's unbelievably refreshing and exactly what our country needs. Thank you!
Just watched Jillian on Gutfeld. You’re incredible.
Just sad I’m not your type!
You're the minority, unfortunately
I feel the same. I really wasn’t at all into the physical training stuff but wow Jillian has a great talent for interviewing, critical thinking, speaking, etc.
Yeah I first learned of her when she stood up to Bill Maher. She's pretty based. I bet she'd get along great with Dave Rubin
I would vehemently disagree with her assertion that there was "only one black family on TV" when we were kids. The Jeffersons, the Cosby show, Sanford and Son, Good Times, Family Matters, Gimme a Break, A Different World, Different Strokes (well ok, a mixed family), What's Happening Now, Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.. there were TONS of great shows starring black people in the 80s and 90s.. I should know, I watched them all! Any assertion otherwise is completely incorrect.
@@pfarabee omg... i just wrote the same comment. I hear this with women saying they had no role models. And i think Margaret Thatchrr, mother theresa, lady diana, sandra day o connor... its liie people have tunnel vision
Thank you for listing all of these. I watched every single one of these shows while growing up!
@@Usernameblahblahnblah amd Living Single in the 90s!!! So much better than friends.
I thought the same thing. Facts of Life is another one
Blacks are about 13 percent of the US population, not 50 percent. Yet I would say in the 90's there were more shows than their 13 percent population. All the shows you mentioned. I never understand this 50 percent representation demand, when they are not 50 percent of the population. Whites were 80 to 90 percent of the population until the 2000's when migration from other countries became so overwhelming!!
Up until 2009 the Merriam-Webster’s definition of marriage was ‘between a man and a woman’
Thank you, I was just going to comment that the definition has been changed in recent years to conform to 'modern' society.
@charlie81dbz jus like the definition of racism a new added definition was added within the past few years that added the "prejudice plus power" which was NEVER im the definition of racism before. And IMHO it was added to help keep the division alive... between white and blk.
@@zenzorkle5160what’s so wild is, I’m a 32 year old male. And racism to me has ALWAYS been “you deem your race to be superior to another” - IE - racist.
I was a "gay rights" activist long before it became the alphabet rainbow. My sister was the first lesbian to get married on television in Quebec, before gay marriage was allowed. I was "happy" for her. But her marriage was a bit of a stunt, and lasted less than a year, because they were both druggies looking for attention. My sister has been sadly single ever since, "looking for love in all the wrong places"...
But I was never an advocate for gay "marriage". I've explained my position to my friends. I do agree that if we have a surplus of orphans, then ANY couple who can "pass the test" of adoption should be allowed to, no matter who they sex with. Adoption is a difficult process, and I think the adoption process needs fixing.
But I am against gay "marriage" in principle, I'm also against "spousal benefits" for non parents. It's a cooptation of motherhood perks. Having your husband's healthcare and power of attorney was not for "living together as a couple" it was for the CHILDREN.
Our world is fuked up. I also disagree with fertility treatments, the principle should be: If you can you shouldn't.
No way I approve of my income tax paying for "gay fertility treatments".
Surrogacy should be banned.
I was thinking the same... growing up, it was always the definition "between a man and a woman "... the fact that she forgot to mention that part made me wonder if she knew or did it on purpose to make her case. 🤷♀️
This was great conversation.
I’m a conservative Christian that lives for Jesus.
Matt and Jillian were both so honest, respectful and calm through conversation. So refreshing 😊 you can still be friendly, kind and still disagree!
@@melissa-wz6uj Amen! Hi sister in Christ!
@@melissa-wz6uj Matt made a great point about a husband who has desire for another woman and wants to have an affair. Not all desires should be viewed as created by God and not all desires should be pursued.
@amazingjason455 how is that a good point? A husband who has desires for other women/affairs can still have sex with and be married to his wife. Refrain from cheating for a heterosexual person just means "don't have relations with someone else, but you still have your wife"
But according to Matt's faith, a gay person has to refrain from sex and marriage altogether I.e. no lover/partner for the gay people because scripture says it's an abomination.
It's not a fair point to make at all.
@bevanhartley4090 why isn't it fair? That is what Christians have historically believed for 2000 years. You don't have to agree but if you what to be a Christian we agree that the Bible is the final word on faith and behavior.
Look at it in reverse if I say it is unfair that you believe what you do.
Is that allowed for you but me?
god doesn’t exist, keep your fairytale to yourself
Matt Walsh is a gem. He’s fighting against mentally unstable men in our daughters’ locker rooms. He’s fighting against racism (we should be judging people on their character, not skin color). And he’s fighting for freedom of speech and against censorship. This is America and the Left has completely flipped objective truth on its head. Thank you for the open discussion with him. It’s what we need more of.
@@davidhodge144 I totally agree.
Well said honestly. Agreed.
I never expected Jillian to pop back up on my radar for discussions like this. I'm very glad this was a respectful discussion. Thank you Jillian for setting a great example for how to have a discussion with someone who you don't see eye-to-eye!
@@kaylar1981 yea. It's easy to do when you don't have insecurities or are not a raging narcissist. Knowing that your views and opinions are just that
Why is anyone surprised that it was a civil conversation, I have never know either Matt or Jillian to rude or off putting
@@alanlee67absolutely
@@Kathleen253 it's just appreciation because it's not common.
Her ignorance about crime figures and race is astounding.
I just watched this interview, and I have to say-Jillian, you were an absolute class act! This is the first time I watched one of your podcasts. I went in with some assumptions, especially knowing there would be different perspectives, but the conversation was such a great example of respectful dialogue. It was refreshing to see so much common ground. Even when you reached topics like gay marriage, where you two couldn’t quite meet in the middle, you both handled it with maturity and respect. You allowed Matt to fully express his views without interrupting, and he did the same.
Your openness and respect shined brighter than any specific point, and it’s clear you genuinely care about fostering thoughtful discussions and are willing to listen without judgement. Every podcast host could learn a lot from this interview- this is the kind of dialogue we need more of today! Thank you for setting such a high bar!
I’m a gay man and I appreciate MATT AND JILLIAN. Peace to you both!!!
🙏🏻💙🙏🏻💙🙏🏻💙🙏🏻
Why even mention that you're gay? :) Doesn't seem to have any bearing on the conversation at hand with all due respect.
@@joekristamullins1 Because people are under the impression that all gays hate Matt Walsh. Which is not true
@@quitepossiblylucky Strange. Why would people be under the impression that Matt hates gays? Any honest person who does honest research knows.
@@GlennWD The one thing I wish would be explored on the marriage issue is, what if all the civil protections and responsibilities associated with marriage were passed on to all similarly committed couples, but use a different name for the union, would everyone be happy.
IDK i just think it's something to be explored, that unfortunately there wasn't enough time to cover.
I dont care about your sexual preference in fact I find it strange to wear it on your shoulder… no one cares and it’s weird to share with people all the time
I am in agreement with Matt in virtually all these points. That said, I admire Jillian and her willingness to have the discussions with those she has philosophical differences with. I appreciate the respectful manner in which she interacts with the guests. One of my favorite TH-cam subscriptions.
Racism isn’t nearly as bad as centuries old family banking cartels being allowed to exist.
Frankly, she was closed minded in this conversation and used bad faith canned talking points.
@@JackMSheridan OK - But how does your opinion of her side of the debate dispute my point of her "her willingness to have the discussions" in a "respectful manner"? She has her beliefs (some of which I disagree with) but she's not a George Stephanopoulos or Sean Hannity who talk over their "opponents"
Excellent conversation! I appreciate your vulnerability Jillian, finding the common ground as humans. I can tell the discomfort on both sides, yet the willingness to discuss and agree to disagree is so admirable! Love it!!!
We need to be clear that most of these critical race theories are not being pushed by people of color, but rather by white liberals. Specifically, white liberal women.
Two media personalities with opposing thoughts having a meaningful and respectful discussion. It’s been a long time since I’ve seen it. Well done.
The gay marriage discussion was two different discussions trying to occupy the same conversation.
Matt was using the traditional definition and talking about the foundation of society and culture.
Jillian was using a modern definition, specifically re-written to avoid the traditional definition, and was talking about the nitty gritty of tax benefits, hospital visitation policies, and how the family court system might treat her differently if she wasn't legally married in the eyes of the court.
I kept waiting for either of them to recalibrate so that they were both on the same map, but it never happened.
I feel like i see this happen a lot when people of opposing views discuss a topic. There isn't a moment really to discuss terms and definitions that were being played with, so this massive misunderstanding stands between the two sides. As the audience, its hard to watch sometimes when this happens, wishing there was a moderator or that we could reach through the screen and set them straight so they could continue a genuinely interesting conversation.
I agree. That made it painful to listen to.
Exactly this.
I agree, I’m glad they remained calm and civil but it seemed like a fundamental disconnect on what they were actually talking about
@@viva.discordia gay people do have a fundamental disconnect about what marriage means, yes. Matt only ever tries to define the meaning of that word, and the very meaning of the word excludes all gay people, end of story. You can be gay and call that a marriage but its simply not. loving partnership, sure. But it will never be a marriage.
I cant believe I dismissed Jillian Michaels. Shame on me. THANK YOU for having Matt Walsh on!
Jillian is a member of the LGBTQIA+ community, and she's platforming someone who literally wants her dead. Talk about Stockholm Syndrome!
I’m dismissing her BECAUSE she had Matt Walsh on! 😂
@@djsoto5334 In the grand scheme of things, this was a great conversation. I think it’s cool for people to connect and demonstrate that.
@@dawnsamantha6728 completely agree, I respect how both made their points with attacking each other personally and kept it respectful. They both demonstrated what all debates/conversations should look like.
I haven’t always agreed with Michael’s views if at all but glad she had Matt on and seemed to agree with him.
"I don't agree with it, but I understand it." Amen! Those are powerful words. You don't have to agree to show respect and dignity to a person's views
In reference to the people who think minorities cannot figure out how to get an ID or get access to the internet, Rush Limbaugh brilliantly called it "The soft bigotry of low expectations." Perfectly describes what they are doing.
Yes…Rush was on point!!
@@tammimesce it's like they're calling them jungle bunnies, demonstrating the same exact bigotry that gave rise to that type of term in the first place. They're just as racist cloaked in their sweet concern.
@@elizabethporter6398 Agreed.
@@elizabethporter6398that clip Jillian showed of the young white people (mostly girls) being interviewed showcased some of the most racist crap I've ever heard in my life.
@@tammimesce same like how people treat the arab Palestinians..
Jillian,
You freaking amaze me.
During this podcast you show yourself as being yourself and not fake. You are not trying to be perfect in your conversation you are just being human.
For you to open up dialog and actually have a conversation about things ppl disagree on is what this country needs more of. To see ppl that disagree and not hate each other is paramount.
I Really appreciate you . We have seen too much hate lately and it's time for us to come together,be real with each other and deny the narratives that the media pushes.
You are very genuine and authentic .
Your aura is contagious.
Thank you🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
Having conversations with people who have differing views is so healthy. We need more of this.
This is how things were before. But now it's discouraged because the goal is to keep us divided.
@@t.o.o.smooth5870 It's only discouraged by one side.
Why does she have the same voice as Megyn Kelly?
@@eggbass yes!! We have lost the art of listening to learn/understand. Also just because we might fundamentally disagree on an issue, it does NOT mean that you are my enemy and we have to now hate one another.
As a nation, we need to relearn how to agree to disagree and still find a way to, if not, be friends at least be respectful of one another.
@@aesop1451yes sounds JUST like Megan Kelly.
THANK YOU Jillian for an intelligent, civilized and entertaining conversation with Matt, who I respect tremendously. You're willingness and sincerity regarding having conversations with people you don't always agree with is EXTREMELY necessary in our society. Seriously, this was such a pleasure to watch.
Fantastic conversation and I’m glad this came across my feed. As a Matt Walsh fan, I have a tremendous amount of respect for Jillian sitting down with Matt and actually hearing him out. They found some common ground and agreed to disagree on other points and that’s what it’s all about. Everyone needs to go back to being able to not align without getting hateful.
MATT WALSH WILL NEVER HAVE A SIT DOWN LIKE THIS WITH PEOPLE LIKE TARIQ NASHEED.. HE PLAYS IT SAFE.
QUESTION, MATT WALSH.... WHEN DID SYSTEMIC RACISM END.. POST THE DATE.. AND WE WILL IGNORE ALL THE BLACK AMERICANS AND WELL DOCUMENTED EVIDENCE THAT CAN PROVE YOU WRONG.. THIS IS WHY YOU SAY YOU DON'T BELIEVE.. PLAYS IT SAFE..
AND THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SLAVERY AND CHATTEL SLAVERY YOU NUT-JOB.... BUT THIS CLOWN FROM THE DAILY RACIST WIRE KNOWS THIS....
ANOTHER THING.. WHITE ANGER AGAINST INJUSTICE IS OK.. BUT BLACK ANGER AGAINST INJUSTICE IS FROWNED UPON.. THEN AGAIN...WHAT DOES ONE EXPECT FROM A NATION BUILT ON LAND THEFT GENOCIDE AND CHATTEL SLAVERY BY A NATION OF RACIST SINNERS.. THE UNITED SNAKES OF HYPOCRISY.
Came here to say exactly this! Soooo excited. People can discuss and learn and disagree and still get along!
Is it "agree to disagree" if Matt thinks gay people are going to hell?
He's a religious fundamentalist who thinks his beliefs should be imposed on other people.
He's right about "anti-racism" though.
Good chat. I like the fact that even when you two disagree you're not talking over one another. Huge plus.
Jillian, I am a conservatist and I love your show because you do allow for this kind of discourse! Not many people have the guts to invite people they don't agree with without insulting them.
Correction, not many leftists do this. You see right winged people doing this all the time. And this is coming from a far leftist.
@@chamboyette853If you see that right leaning people are open to have civil discourse with those of opposing views then may I ask why you are so far left? In my experience it's the left who go all in on stoking division. The right seem much more interested in unity which is why former Democrats like Tulsi and RFK jr. have joined with the Trump team. Never saw that coming!!
@@jaycarver4886 Just becasue they left has a bunch of assholes doesn't mean that their ideas at the base are bad. Sure, the DEI and race baiting horrible. So is the border. But I am very much for strict laws regarding the environment because if we don't things will be much worse in the future.
@@jaycarver4886 I appreciate that some conservatives are willing to have discussions with those who have differing views - like what Matt just did with Jillian. However, many conservatives are still in favor of gay people being denied rights - among a myriad of other policy decisions I disagree with.
@@AnnSmajstrlawhich conservatives and which rights?
Jillian, this is the best interview Matt has done during his promotions tour. What a lovely respectful conversation between two people 🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽👏🏽
Yes, best interview hands down!
yeah she honestly seems honest and being the SILENT majority but guess what. youre being bit for it....stop caring...they dont care
Because Jillian is so decent, and she wants to find common ground.
Man. Matt Walsh's film promotion tour is literally bringing him to every podcast. It's hilarious seeing the random people interviewing him.
@@d0r1an06 not gonna lie. Some of the shows he going on is surprising lol. Like this one
The Daily Wire runs conservative media. Every “interviewer” gets to be in their good graces.
@@d0r1an06 exactly my thoughts, it seems like he's taking them just to be funny but also promote, he's awesome
@@Kiabeth711no it's cause rational ppl cam and should have discussions especially when opinions differ. Liberals for the most part are not a fan of dialogue
@@colinbaer1022 Liberals partake in discussion. as long there are no conflicting opinions.
I am a fan of Matt's and that's why I watched this. I must say it was so refreshing to see a conversation between 2 people who differ in opinions having a calm rational conversation!!! Thanks for doing this interview Julian
Jillian, while I share Matt’s views… I really really like you and I really really admire you for having this tough conversation ever being so open and not being offended but just wanting to bring this discussion to the table. This is so refreshing! This is how I wish all Americans could sit and talk.I just want to hug you both! Thank you again for doing this. It was really beautiful to see you both. Discuss your views and the way that you did. Bless you!
yet, your side wants to make laws to just have your side be visible. Make it make sense to me.
Yes!!!!
Being targeted by the race grifters, of course, makes her unusually receptive.
I think this is how most Americans do sit and talk, just not TV people and politicians who benefit from creating division.
It’s one of the reasons I love TH-cam, you’d never get real conversation like this on tv.
Wow, much Respect to Jillian.
It shouldn’t take real guts to have an honest discussion about DEI and race, But it is SO risky to anyone in the public eye.
She’s the real deal
I have a simple test: if you ever wondered if you are racist, you are not racist. A racist would never wonder about that.
@@shameiti yup. Actual racists just think they're objectively correct.
@@shameiti Not so sure i agree with you on that. I’ve seen some pretty racist people who claim not to be racist. White people who say they only want to be around other white people. Why would you feel that way unless you thought there was something wrong with people of other races? Something inferior about them.
@shameiti same thing wondering if you're gay? Lol
That's not a true statement at all. Many racists proudly admit it, and welcome that as part of their identity. Many join racist groups or gangs, naming their group after their proud racist beliefs.
@@betsybabf748 You just proved that - The comment was people thinking am I being racist as a point of concern and self checking - the diehard racists dont ever feel concerned by thier actions.
I loved this Jillian! I respect you deeply for having this discussion with Matt. You lead by example and you demonstrate how to discuss difficult topics with Matt. I wish the main stream media could do what you’re doing. The MSM needs to go out of business! Podcasts like yours and Matt’s should take over the honest job of journalism. You are doing a wonderful service for our society.
what I liked most about this interview or conversation is that when each of you were talking and trying to articulate a perspective, the other person was quiet and listened. It was refreshing, and 👍 to both of you for that. I watched the whole thing and I seldom get through 1.5 hour TH-cams.
I’m 80 years old and this crazy started with Obama
Yes, I think so too!
I myself an immigrant in a European country, remember following Obamas rise to presidency and I was so happy for the us! I thought wow they’re going to solve there race problem! How wrong I was.😢 it all went downhill. So this time around I’m seeing trump, very unlikely candidate for peace but I’m more hopeful 🙏
what crazy?
@@captkeebz every one and every thing racist -you saw more this week demanding black males vote for kamila- the guy is clown - speaks better than kamila makes more dangerous
@@captkeebzthe rise of so called anti racism and DEI. The extreme polarisation of America.
@@captkeebz all these race wars, where before people were coming more and more together. Rise of homelessness, all these looting and burning! Lawlessness, no bail, criminals go free. School indoctrination for everything sexual, turning all those kids into Transformers, who would’ve been normal gay or autistic. ….
“If the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see every problem as a nail.” - Maslow. Racists, race grifters and people who do genuinely suffer from racism tend to see problems as race based, even when they are not.
That's why he made the movie.
@@fudemocrats that's not Maslow, that's Matt Walsh :)
@@ChickVicious237 And the quote is from Maslow, not Matt Walsh :)
I really don't think the motivation of these people is an innocent one. They are creating a problem on purpose and selling the solution to the problem they created. This is by design.
I think that quote is from Bob. Bob the Builder.
I love how respectful these two are as they explain their differing positions. Jillian is a rare breed. Her questions feel so honest.
I was an out lesbian from age 17-34. The argument for me against gay marriage is the simple fact that it has directly led to the gender crisis we see affecting kids today. That slippery slope that everyone, including myself at the time, claimed didn’t exist came down like an avalanche the minute gay marriage was legalized. The left NEEDS something to push against for “progress” sake, and they came for the kids like they swore they wouldn’t do.
@@its_me-nikki are you still a lesbian? Not that it matters but curious why you listed the range :) thank you for your comment!
@@Lewis_1-r4t at 34 I found myself in the middle of a messy divorce with my wife of only 6 months. That’s when I met the man who is now my husband. Now, at 40 years old, I don’t really have any attraction towards women with rare exception.
@@its_me-nikkisuper interesting. Thanks for sharing
I’m a gay dude, and I have perspectives that hold up traditional marriage just cause I think it’s how God organized things (ideally) for the purposes of growing and replenishing the earth. Of course there are exceptions and situations where is not ideal. We could have a “good, better, best” discussion on that.
I just know that whatever I have with a man…I don’t see it as “the same as” a marriage.
It's the logical conclusion of feminism generally. Feminism took the simple truth that men and women have equal value and twisted it to say man=woman. That leads to gay marriage, transgenderism, and all the rest of them
Excellent channel. Jillian isn’t afraid to have guests she may not agree so that we can learn about all perspectives of an argument
Yes!!! So freshing!!! Thank you Jillian!!
@@mighty_afrodyt now let's see her have discussions with Dr Ken Berry and Dr Shawn Baker!
I don't think people were born gay I think it's a choice in fact when you find God and you truly are saved I would argue you no longer want that old life and you see the hypocrisies and the evil in this world for what it is
That's right Matt - there were people who came onto the scene in the late 90's/ early 2000's to introduce a mix up of racism. I was in public high school in 1999, and we were all integrated. I'm a white girl, I had a Hispanic boyfriend, and all of my friends were my fellow cheerleaders, who were all different races. These were my FRIENDS. But one day we had an assembly about race, and afterwards, everyone was scared of everyone else. Riots broke out, and I experienced my 1st school lockdown. Days following, we all just walked through the halls with our heads down, alienated from our friends, unsure of who we were allowed to talk to (or not). It was like someone came in and shook us all up and made us believe that we were each other's enemies. Really, the one who shook us up was the enemy.
It helps to see all this stuff come to light . As in the Van Jones comments, this will not age well for him. We've been tricked .
Riots? Could you explain?
That’s very sad on several levels. First that someone would seed discord into a community of teens is unforgivable. That impressionable teens would allow the discord to take root despite the long held friendships is sad but understandable given the youth of the indoctrinated. I hope y’all have been able to remake your meaningful relationships.
Yep 👍 I’ve been a teacher since 96’. I saw it happen in slow motion without the ability to stop it.
blm sounds like the same thing as the assembly.
This is the discourse we need in this country. Love you and Matt.
"I would rather be villainized than be infantilized and told I'm a victim."
Amen to that! Being seen as the villain can encourage one to become strong, sexy, and confident whereas being seen as the victim encourages one to become a little bitch.
@@jamesg3808 wow, so true. Nothing is worse than a victimhood "poor me" mentality. When people take that mentality on, they don't realize that they are keeping themselves enslaved in their own minds.
Ain’t the whole am I racist premise is playing victim 😂
So true!!
@@blacksteve22guilty of racism, not object OF it
@@blacksteve22 Nope. Nice try.
MUCH respect, Jillian! Massive props for having Matt on!
Thanks for having open dialogue with people you disagree with. We used to do this all the time. And now people run from conversations out of either hate or lack of original thought/ good arguments themselves. This was great.
She literally just platformed someone who wants her dead.
Make homophobes afraid again!
The problem is, they just had a friendly gabfest. No one laid out solid arguments or critiqued them.
I guess just talking has become fraught? I agree that's not good. MSM choses who to promote like that, and never invites anyone who disagrees. It misleads people into believing the country is different from what it is.
One of the reasons this is a great POD. Also one of the reasons I like Bill Maher. I disagree with 90% of his views but the fact that he's able to have open conversations with people he disagrees with in a very respectable way is admirable and makes it worth listening to.
One black family on TV? The Jeffersons, What's Happening?, Sanford and Son, Good Times...?
Family Matters, Gimme a Break...
@@pete2397 gimme a break? Haha
These two people, on opposite ends of how they view life, are so courteous and respectful towards one another it's mindblowing to watch (seeing as what I am used to). Many people, including myself, could learn a lot from how to engage in conversation and debate difficult subjects.
@@Craftistemv they’re not on opposite ends on this issue. That’s why
@@jonipilaske9841 No, in a few subjects they were not but on some they were. Yet they showed respect towards the other, a thing people could do if they wanted peace.
They are not opposite, they just disagree on one topic out of a hundred. And seeing people being polite while disagreeing shouldn't be "mindblowing". As I was growing up in the 90s, adults on TV (but also in real life) were expected to be polite all the time, not only with those who they agree with. I guess this is no longer possible due to the narcissism and the algorithm bubbles created by social media.
They are just two grown adults. It's normal. The fact it's mindblowing you is very concerning.
@@walter253 why is that? Because people nowadays like to insult each other rather than debate each other? Grown adults behaving like children are the norm now, not the exception.
I'm 50 years old. I never thought we would be experiencing the racial issues we are today. It's very very sad.
@@Mjzen528 America is one of the most tolerable countries on the planet. All this race bs is created by liberals. An evil plot to divide us and many are to stupid to see it.
I am a white heterosexual male. The white part is the least important part of my identity. I am a human male, an individual. This is truly a battle between collective identity and individualism. The founding goal of the USA was to allow individual freedom.
Well said!!
Goofy
@SkiesKurosawa
There will always be dissent on any issue. We had people in the 1930s in the USA who declared as Nazis in support of Hitler. The best action is to expose their ideas as snake oil and embarrass them.
Humanity just isn't monolithic. What is missing right now is that education has given up on transmitting the ideals you mention, so very few are landing there on their own. The more we teach liberty principals in school, the better things go. That said, you'll have to argue with the department of education on that.. I most certainly have no say there :(
Please remember that individual freedom was not given to everyone.
@@StarLight-sl9ok Maybe 100 years ago? What’s your point? We should not be allowed to express our individuality today because others in the past weren’t granted the same opportunity?
Tremendous amounts of respect for both Matt and Jillian. We don’t have to agree on everything is correct. Jillian is an Amazing human and so is Matt and that’s all that matters
I’ve been a big fan of Jillian for years. Nutritionally, exercise and body building. It was years before I even knew she was a lesbian. I like that she does not glorify her lifestyle or push it on others. She’s so likable and so good at what she does, she must be a phenomenal mother as well. This probably isn’t coming out right because I’m not good at expressing myself.
I am a committed Christian and I’ve been a Matt Walsh fan for years as well… I really enjoyed this show.
Thank you! There was no competing for the listener. My heart goes out to Jillian as she is trying so hard to come to terms with what is right. I will be praying for her and her beautiful family.♥️
@@KarenMinor-m4v hows your heterosexual lifestyle? ive been considering living my life as a heterosexual lately.
Wow, Jillian really got vulnerable and I appreciated hearing her struggles with this issue
@@eeayquetting5963 still tho she’s not smart. She said we can see men as more dangerous than women cause stats but not black more dangerous than white. It’s completely contradictory
Jillian, I really appreciate how willing and respectful you are to have this conversation, despite the fact that my beliefs align with Matt’s.
I agree. It is nice to see two adults sit down and have a respectful conversation.
What a great conservation! Agreed completely with Matt in the first half, agreed completely with Jillian in the second half. So much respect for Jillian for having this long-form discussion.
Great job Jillian, your ability to gently challenge and seek truth without being triggered or having an agenda was a breath of fresh air.
Wow this was an amazing conversation. This may have been the first time I’ve heard someone talk to Matt about the gay marriage thing and come at it so earnestly. She was truly trying to understand his position and wasn’t taking his responses and views and a personal attack to her. I would pay money to just give these two a podcast to go back and forth I thought they had such a meaningful conversation.
Hats off to you Jillian Michaels. I commend you for speaking with Matt Walsh. The only way we are accomplish any progress in our society is for us to have a civil conversation and seek to understand each other. You are very articulate and patient. You allowed the guest to express himself in a non confrontational threatening environment. You push back appropriately and respectfully; which is important. I get so discouraged when people do not allow each other to speak. Thank you for having the courage to invite those demonized by parts of society. I agree with Matt on a lot of things as well. He makes some really good points.
"i grew up in Los Angeles"....
That explains this woman's stupidity.
Tons of respect to both Matt and Jillian. This is how discourse in America needs to be! If it was, division amongst our country would be eliminated.
I disagree with Jillian about “one black family on tv.” Almost every show I watched as a kid in the late 80’s through mid 90’s were comprised of mainly black casts. I can think of at least 15 off the top of my head. The Cosby’s weren’t even the first, just maybe the first middle/upper class black family on tv. Also, I’m a 40 year old white woman and I’ve been dismissed by doctors since I was an infant. It took 32 years to be diagnosed with celiac disease, which is a very basic test. I delivered 2 babies with no doctors present, because they didn’t believe I was in active labor. I had to beg for an endoscopy for 10 years because I was choking on everything I ate. They told me I was lying and I eventually was diagnosed with an esophageal disease. My son was laughed at by the ER doctor for saying he thinks he has T1D and was literally dying in DKA. He was sent home weighing 67lbs at 12 yrs old, puking his guts out, looking like a literal skeleton. We don’t have a racist healthcare system, we simply just don’t have a healthcare system.
Totally agree.
Our healthcare system is trash and blacks are way over represented on tv
I listed several in my comment. It wasn’t a big deal back then. They acted like Black Panther was the first black superhero.
"What you talking about Willis?"
@@danjohnson8556 another good one
The "marriage" issue is about equivalence. Matt is correct in that there is only one type of two-person human relationship that can procreate naturally: man and woman. It is worth sanctifying because it is the fundamental cornerstone of civilization itself. Jillian is right that other relationships exist outside that optimal pairing and are deserving of legal protection. The answer is simple: civil unions. Some European countries have figured that out.
Most European countries have gay marriage. So swollow it. Its called level plaining. Nothing wrong about that. Sorry but it is dicriminoitory because you will not get the same legal benifits.
Most European countries have gay marriage, not civil unions, because they have figured it out. Just like the act of annulment has two meanings, one in religion and one of a legal sense, so does marriage. A marriage can be recognized in a church but it is also a non-religious legal contract. As a Christian, but also an as attorney, I understand that Christians who want the term marriage to only be their religious use, for all legal purposes, are incorrect. It is one word, no one owns, with is uses in two systems, just like annulment has always been, without issue.
@@belgianbikeability7295 That's simply false. Only 21 out of 44 European Countries recognize "gay marriage". To be clear, no government should be recognizing any marriage. they should simply recognize civil unions. That would be a level playing field. Marriage is a religious or tribal ceremony and should remain as such.
@@betsybabf748 As I wrote above, that's simply false. Only 21 European Countries recognize "gay marriage".
I agree!!!
This was SUCH a good conversation. I love it when reasonable people get together and can discuss differences with canceling, screaming, shutting each other down but with respect. I am a straight white married woman with 4 kids but I really enjoy listening to both Matt and Jillian. Thank you again for this Jillian!!
I watched the preview and decided to watch the whole show. Really appreciate both of them and their genuineness.
Refreshing.
I have long admired Walsh's ability to discuss matters dispassionately with people he disagrees with. I also like that, though his beliefs are informed by his faith, he is able to make his case apart from faith to those who might not share his faith.
Amazing conversation!! Jillian I have followed you for over 20 years and I’m so glad you are speaking up and talking to people like Matt!! Both of my favorites!!! 🌟💪
Didn’t know this podcast existed. Jillian is a great host. Keeps it real, and finds common ground and respectful disagreements. Rare on both sides.
Great conversation! Thank you for having Matt Walsh on your program. Excellent example of how a discussion between 2 individuals with some but not necessarily all differing positions should interact!
What an absolute class act from Jillian. These are the types of conversations that will bring the country together.
Matt and Jillian are both class acts
Yesss! This is my first time watching Jillian's podcast. I used to see Jillian at a popular eatery in Los Angeles; she's the real deal, good vibes. This conversation is so refreshing.
I went to a watch party of the Harris/Trump debate near UCLA with a room full of Democrats cheering for Kamala. There were only three of us there who were conservatives. One guy tried to talk with a Democrat about the border. She YELLED at him for clapping when Trump said that open borders a problem. I tried to express my respect for RFKJ to another Democrat in the audience... and she became EN RAG ED. "Get away from me if you support Kennedy. He endorsed TR U MP! TR U MP! TR U MP!" She SHUT DOWN the conversation. We NEED conversations like these between Jillian and Matt. Jillian sets a good example for Democrats -- who have gotten in the habit of defensive hostility toward anyone who disagrees with them.
@@midmomom2490 absolutely, he's a regular. I just really appreciate discovering good spirited rational voices from the old.
@@SoCalG310 The tolerance just isn't there anymore. It's dangerous to hate someone and also shut down communication. The parties are going through a transformation.
@Ol5tb Definitely. I think most of us are seeking the same basic tenets of a FREE and civil society -- not only in the US, but in the West, in general. The People came out in full force in Argentina to support Milei. I speak with Argentinians in Los Angeles who vote Democrat who support Milei, a Trump fan who has even used Trump's line to "Make Argentina Gr e at Again."
I really enjoyed that interview! I watch Matt’s podcast every day, and loved seeing him have a discussion with someone he doesn’t fully agree with. I thought they were both very respectful while not backing down from their beliefs. Really great watch, thank you both!
Same for me ☺️
I am happily surprised to see how open Jillian Michaels is to this conversation. Good for her! Matt raises a lot of good points in his two documentaries and I’m glad to hear him talk about it outside his normal conservative media circles.
🥰 wow! So, I have been a Jillian fan for years AND I'm a DW member. I listen to Matt a few times a week. I loved this conversation. How smart and gracious these 2 are. Just a class act all the way around. Thank you, you two!
I m probably as conservative and Catholic as Matt. I don’t agree with Jillian’s perspective of gay marriage for similar reasons to Matt that I have arrived at on my own but I really appreciate Jillian’s ability to handle a different perspective in command of her emotions. They both listened well. She is a leader and I think this was a great example of what dialogue should look like. Very very impressive conversation.
As a black man I'm Lost on the whole voter i.d situation. We all have access to the m.v.d😂
@@drdoodlittle365 if an ID is required someone who doesn’t want you to vote can deny the authenticity of you ID. Older people often times don’t have an ID and some people don’t have the money to get a new ID.
Illegals. Periodt. They don’t even have SSNs. And yet some places want the illegals come in and vote.
Thank you! It’s so silly to pretend otherwise. We desperately NEED some protections on our voting system to keep fraud at bay.
Leftos don't think so they also say you cant do math...... These people have zero respect for black among other races it why Asian have it harder in school because they assume they are all smart.......
We don't have to hate eachother. We're supposed talk. Conversation is a privilege and a responsibility. Thanks to Jillian and Matt and every open-minded person who watches and shares this.
Yes I agree 😊😊❤🎉🎉🎉
I almost never add a comment but I have to extend Kudo’s to you both for proving to the rest of America that two adults can have an intelligent and calm conversation. Express different points of view and actually find common ground on many things while disagreeing on others and doing it all in a respectful way.
Thank you
Jillian has always been a voice of reason... I noticed this when I first found her long ago for workout videos and health advice. I absolutely love Jillian and so happy that she allows for respectable conversations to happen at all. Matt Walsh is killin' it with his funny, thoughtful and honest approach to opening up people's minds! This is the podcast I needed today.
This is fantastic two people with differing opinions having a conversation!!! I applaud both of them for sitting down and talking about the issue!!!
Love Jillian for doing this. Well done. Our democracy is buttressed by finding common ground. Truly remarkable conversation. 💜
How do you spell MATURE? This is it.
Thank you. That means so much to me. It’s taken me 50 years to get here 😂 Please also tell me the guests you guys want to hear from going forward.
@JillianMichaels this is awesome. I love both you guys and Matt cracks me up. I have followed you for years with fitness stuff (got the old videos and dvds)!!! And I am loving these convos you are having! The fda one was amazing too!! Go girlfriend!!!
@@rosemaryalles6043 It was very superficial, and Walsh uses a common trick: he brings up bad arguments concerning race and racism (and let's agree he has tons of bad ones to choose from) to pretend there is no good case to be made on the subject.
People forcing a poor vaccine on everyone did the same thing. "There is no computer chip in the shot!!" That doesn't prove safety or effectiveness. Bill Gates and Lady Gaga just made a documentary doing the same thing. "We aren't lizard people!" That doesn't prove Gates isn't corrupt, when we have good reason to think he is.
It's a common trick. It usually works.
Is YT removing more critical comments "mature?" Who needs the protection?
Is there something about Walsh that makes people talks about their own issues rather than him, he's supposed to be the guest. Just saw Rogan going on about a faked moon landing. He's obviously a good listener.
1:05:04 - This was a fantastic thing to see as a Southern Baptist. Thank you Jillian for being brave enough to have an honest conversation about this topic. I see it differently than Matt and you, but it's that you allowed him to speak freely about it, while speaking honestly back at him in the manner that you did that makes me feel so encouraged as an American.
Jillian, thank you for this. I'm old enough to remember when a respectful discussion was the norm and not the exception. Beautifully done. I keep going back to the word "respect" in my mind as I watch this. Well done, you two.
It is so refreshing to have a host who is genuine and respectful of guests that disagree. This was the most courteous discussion of tense topics that I have seen in years. Thank you, Jillian Michaels, for being the peace making host our country desperately needs. This was a beautiful episode. It was my first time watching your channel and I'm definitely subscribing!
@brianashawcroft2228 way better than how joe rogan handled it
We passed, as society, from "Don't judge a book by its cover" to "ONLY judge a book by its cover".
It's crazy, I'm thirty-nine and that's the way it used to be up until very recently.
Jillian!!!! Keep this content coming!!!!! This is exactly what we need. I think that having Matt Walsh on as one of your early guests was brilliant, and it shows what this channel will be about. Bravo!
I watched this movie on the weekend and it was hilarious while simultaneously destroying the DEI narrative. One of the few movies out there appealing to both the left and the right. I think it illustrates the truth that there is, largely, no racism except that pushed by the media. I'd go so far as to say there is no race, other than the human race!
@@lindavolk9958 Beautifully said. And perfectly true. 🙏🏻 🤲
Nah. . race is real. There are many different races and ethnicity's and they differ both on the outside and inside. It's foolish to think all humans are the same. Birds of a feather flock together. This "diversity" experiment has set us on a course of disaster. The more diverse we become the more divided we become.
I saw it as well! It was awesome!
@@Republitarian-g4h exactly! It's manufactured, though, to keep us fighting each other. There is no real difference between humans under the skin, imo.
Me too!! My boyfriend and I loved it.
We may differ on opinions, but I admire you greatly for having an honest, open-minded discussion with Matt. This was truly entertaining and thought-provoking.
Thank you, Jillian, for being willing to have tough, personal conversations without getting offended and pissed. People with differing opinions can't productively discourse if hate/anger is always the outcome. This was so respectful, great job.
This was beautiful to see and really gave me hope.I had hoped that once the election was over things might calm down a bit but a quick glance at social media shows the contrary. This is the way that two sides debate and the more of this type of discourse we can have the healthier our country and society at large will become. Thank you guys for doing this!
Matt lifts the game of every podcaster...with his calm presence and a powerful voice, he sounds everything convincing.
The power of a present father is SO underestimated in society. You want to see a big man cry? Ask him about his relationship with his Dad.
No I had a father in my house,it has nothing to do with that you are just being racist
@@Family63936 Very low IQ take right here
@@Family63936 I don't understand how you having a father at home, makes @JimmyDozer a racist...
Jill. Thank you. You are the first left leaning person I've seen on TH-cam who dares to have an open conversation with someone who doesn't necessarily agree with you. Bravo! There's hope for our country.
Hear, hear! Jillian is a class act.
I don't think she is left leaning. I think she is right leaning.
@DN-nm4rl maybe the current dynamics shift going on right now, but historical speaking she is definitely left of center
@@DN-nm4rl If not believing in all the left wing stuff about racism made someone right leaning then there's a lot of right leaning people out there.
SBG here. Thanks Jillian, I appreciate you for doing this! Matt is amazing. and now I know you are amazing too because you had an honest, inquisitive conversation with him. Even if we disagree on things we can still love and listen to each other 💖
"What is wrong with me? When did I lose the ability to be human?" Great lline and soo true! This is what dividing people looks like... it dehumanizes others and ourselves. I have felt this too and I have never heard anyone artoliculate it as well as Jillian just did.
I absolutely had a moment while listening to that part as well!
Jillian is a babe.
Love the way she asks questions from the opposite point of view in respectful and constructive way.
And of course Matt answering like a gentleman.
Awesome conversation!
We need more conversations like this where you may not agree on certain things, but still keep it civil and respectful. 😊
Good on you for having a civil discussion. It's shockingly rare, but welcome.
Jillian gained my respect!! I found her exceptionally thoughtful, honest and a seeker of truth. She earned a repeat visit😂. I watched on 1.5 speed😂😂
It’s nice to see this conversation. I respect Jillian Michaels as a personal trainer and a leader in the health & fitness industry. I appreciate that she is willing to hear/listen to a perspective that disagrees with her own. This is how civilized people behave. Imagine that- communication doesn’t equal violence…go figure.
First time I've ever listened to this channel and I'm very impressed by the conversation and Jillian Michael's ability to have a great conversation and willing to respectfully disagree.
What a GREAT conversation! Loved hearing coherent (and honest) discussion in a constructive tone. So refreshing. Thank you, Jillian!
As a black Latino (not that it matters), l appreciate this conversation. In my personal experience l have never seen nor have l ever experienced racism in this country.
Hopefully we can now unite and put the "race issue" behind.
This was brave to take on. Whoa!!
@@joelrodriguez1232 I find it hard to believe that you have never seen racism in this country. If you haven’t seen racism in this country your eyes are closed.
@@michellehill6166 please define racism for me.
@joelrodriguez1232 I've seen excellent black employees paid less and abused and white ones in the same job category who aren't as good treated great. Yes more than one time. MANY times. I've been in a group of whites where the first thing they gripe about is race -- MANY times. Does that count?
My father didn't come across as white to everyone, and I saw what that meant. It was tiny, but when we lived in Paris, it never happened. It was gone. Zero is better than tiny. I admit I was surprised. (I still don't really know what to think about that. Maybe we should have stayed?)
@@joelrodriguez1232 Somehow I don’t believe that.
There are racists on TH-cam who will claim to be a person of color, make their thumb nail and name look like those of a person of color then make a comment yours. There was a whole story about that happening actually on TH-cam.
Great conversation! I was excited to see you invited Matt on your show. I do not agree with everything Matt has to say but I appreciate his consistency and of course his sarcastic humor.
Jillian, I just love that you bring on guests with different viewpoint , and you have civil conversations with them. There is no yelling, or I'm right, you're wrong type of conversation. Just two adults sharing their viewpoints and sometimes agreeing to disagree. That's the way conversations should be. Also, I love that you even admit that some things you just don't know and haven't looked into it. You're the best!
Maybe growing up in LA you were only exposed to one tv show with a black family but growing up in Texas, we were exposed to numerous shows with black families. Sanford & son, the Cosby s, Family Matters, the Jefferson’s and I’m sure I could come up with others if I sat here and thought about it. 🤷🏻♂️
What are you talking about these were public shows on public TV they were everywhere the only thing that was in LA was the lgbtq gay rights movement a lot of those people in those gay cities like San Francisco we're allowed to be more flamboyant than other cities where you grow up does play a role in how you interact with the world but some things are just fundamentally based a man is a man a woman is a woman in a marriage should be between a man and a woman
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You ask me what I’m talking about then write a response like you did.🤣🤣🤣I said nothing about gay rights or marriage. Perhaps grammar and sentence structure is taught differently depending on where you’re raised as well. Holy sh!t🤦🏻♂️