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Second Dark Age feat. Alan Moore | Chapo Trap House | Episode 322
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We're joined by legendary author Alan Moore to discuss evil architecture, magic & political power, fate & free will, and the enduring appeal of Lovecraft.
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I've been saying that our understanding of climate change is basically the Eldritch truth of our time, and I think HP Lovecraft absolutely nailed what people's reaction to that would be. I think Lovecraftian cosmic horror has at once never been so relevant, nor so redundant.
pretty sure ive seen this analogy on reddit and 4chan. and for that matter trump is like denethor steward of gondor who was corrupted and fell etc eetc etc
As expected of Alan Moore, creative, original, and completely mad.
Alan Moore is an international treasure.
*interdimensional treasure
Are you sure this isn’t just Felix doing a voice
Will is hands down one of the best interviewers in the business. That was one hell of an on-ramp to help Moore to engage at one hell of a pleasantly granular level.
absolutely, i keep coming back to this interview
50:09 "I remain optimistic. Chiefly, because there's no point in being anything else."
Numbers
Jerusalem is a life changing work, and this is one of the better AM interviews available. Great job.
Been meaning to read that
This was absolutely amazing.
Dude i had no idea you guys scored an interview with Alan Moore.
And the hawkmoor church story.
Jesus its frightening.
Can't wait for the boys to start doing podcasts on the esoteric occult
cant wait for alan moore to finish the moon and serpent bumper book of magic that was supposd to come out 20 years ago
@@mattb6616 it's been coming soon for 20 years.
I thought this was troll or a different alan moore at first
This was the Alan Moore I was thinking of, but not expecting. I love it.
You can hear Moore's beard when he talks it's funny
This is a crowning achievement in the podcast medium.
Personally I find predeterminism comforting and empowering, but the idea of having to experience my life over and over ad infinitum absolutely horrifying like nothing else. Anyways always good to hear from Moore.
I'm curious, how is it that you find it empowering? I would assume the opposite, seeing that it would entail that every occurence in your life would be something that happens to you rather than something that YOU make happen. I think that predeterminism does away with CHOICE, or the POWER of choice-----the power to affect the world around you. Wouldn't you agree?
@@jesse1617: The fact that in any given situation there is only one choice I would ultimatly make keeps me from being consumed by the what-ifs, and empower me to actually do something rather then going for the safer option (like doing nothing or just going along with the people around me), that would mean my "choices" would have less effect on the world around me, becouse I'm too scared of making the wrong choice.
I see Alan Moore, I click. Great interview. I really wish Moore hadn’t left the main stream.
I understood all of this and it made perfect sense to me.
I haven't to this yet but I'm guessing they say one of these
-clandestine
-transcendental
-voyeuristic
-chauvinist
-neo-liberal
-neo-classical
-neo-marxist
There's some Adorno in here in the way Moore talks about the transition of culture through the renaissance that I like quite a lot.
Alan Moore's rhetoric is at least as coherent and likely far more coherent than any argument that capitalism is the "natural state" of human organization.
Wow thanks for the existential crisis
I did a double take on that title. Awesome.
Hawksmoor is a great novel. I hadn't known it tied-in to From Helll, or that Nicholas Hawksmoor was a historical personage. Moore's description of the crypt was very creepy, similar to what is depicted in the film As Above, So Below.
The second I saw Alan Moore in the title my weenie became big weenie
i’m gay
Wow! I had assumed it was a different Alan Moore.
death is watching, the cat is listening, and the train goes on forever
My favorite episode of 2019
This is some primo uncut ketamine communism, I approve.
2 minutes in: Wait, is this real? I had no idea this existed!
Good ,new stuff from Mr Moore.
I am definitely buying Jerusalem now, great interview Bois!
OINSTOIN
Alan Moore is a living legend
Alan Moore is my god
I’m half sure I’m plagiarising a comment I read when this pod came out but I can’t listen to Alan talk to Will without thinking it’s actually Felix doing a bit.
Getting stoned before listening to this was a good choice, perhaps it was fated
Lol weed dooood
"The greatest weight.-- What, if some day or night a demon were to steal after you into your loneliest loneliness and say to you: "This life as you now live it and have lived it, you will have to live once more and innumerable times more; and there will be nothing new in it, but every pain and every joy and every thought and sigh and everything unutterably small or great in your life will have to return to you, all in the same succession and sequence - even this spider and this moonlight between the trees, and even this moment and I myself. The eternal hourglass of existence is turned upside down again and again, and you with it, speck of dust!"
Would you not throw yourself down and gnash your teeth and curse the demon who spoke thus?... Or how well disposed would you have to become to yourself and to life to crave nothing more fervently than this ultimate eternal confirmation and seal?
"
Nietzsche - The Gay Science
Well...this descended quickly.
Thankfully.
Fascinating person
Damn, he even goes into Julian Jaynes territory
32:44. Profound.
im so glad i was smoking weed when this one popped up.
I love checking out Chapo references. HENRY DARGER!
yeah, this.
Great interview. I remember listening to this maybe a couple of years ago - when was the original air date?
6/10/19
3:28
magic always includes some kind of transformation which is why i think comedians who turn tragedy into comedy are of shamanic origin.
How dare you people :
32:44
Literally the exact part I was looking for!
Anyone here from the "c.o.v.I.D A.I" sermon by that one preacher?
Will they talk about the demdebate?
I'm somewhat confused by this episode ...
Who has finished his book Jerusalem? I've certainly tried.
I was enjoying it immensely but then started another addiction cycle at the Lucia chapter where it goes full Joycean mindfuq and was unable to continue. It's still on my floor among the garbage and when my personal Ash-Moseses permit me I will eventually finish the bastard. I find I relate a little bit to EVERYONE except maybe Mick. Want badly to be Alma but really am closer to Marla and Benedict lmfao like complete trainwreck over here
Yep. Read it when it came out, took well over a month, but one of the best things he's written in years!
Read it over a summer. Not sure I rate it particularly highly as literature but it abounds in interesting ideas.
I think American libertarianism is inherently different from Egoism in the Stirnerist sense in that Anarcho Capitalism is fundementaly about property ownership and Egoist anarchy explicitly looks to abolish property. In other words, egoism ViOlatEs tHe nAP
why no views squad>>??
hearing americans come into contact with a really thick brummie accent will never not be funny
Brummie? dude's born and raised in Northampton, east midlands, not Birmingham
@@zackalden6447 same thing
@@dominicking8089 er not the same thing at all
jk
Anybody else here can’t stand grant Morrison?
He's okay not a fan but have read some of his stuff.
No
I liked their Animal Man story about the Wile E. Coyote character stuck in the real world
No the Invisibles rocks
He’s ok
post cringe
Marxism is a religion you dorks
ewww. an npc.
Wow hotake! Care to elaborate?
Everything is a religion
The Alan Moore part is hands down the most boring thing Ive ever experienced.
And you will relive that experience for all of eternity.
@@soblackismyself Living through 5 seconds is pretty much the same as eternity. I just found out that the "Alan Moore part" was actually the whole thing.
Heretical Hershey define what you mean when you use the term boring I’m intrigued. Did you really come to this conclusion in five seconds? You may be evidence of a parallel reality interacting incompatibly with others. There is what could be considered a boring aspect to the tone of the human voice in general.
@@sigmasix3719 Nope, just uninteresting talk about a church. My definition of "boring" is basically that: uninteresting. I think it was about a church, I was busy trying not to fall asleep.
Heretical Hershey actually you are right having heard the whole thing it was my god boring and that drawn out monotone slow explanation thing doesn’t work as ...... the church thing wasn’t very interesting and not worth the listen.
Truly the worst episode since the one with brandon wardell
Wh….what?
Damn you're so cool and edgy dude.