I love you Gordon, you have a figure for decades and I've following since the early days. God Bless you brother.. wishing you continued success and good health. again love you brother! (You're a real one.!)
I have the impression that AAA games (especially ones with anti-cheat and similar systems) are the ones that tend not to run on Snapdragon, and if someone is mostly playing indie-like games, they're much safer. So far I tried to run maybe 10 games on my Surface Laptop 7, and to my surprise all ran without any issues. I think Subnautica crashed once when I tried auto Super Resolution, but even that worked fine afterwards. And I just tried Grounded, and shockingly enough it runs beautifully and smooth with FSR, on low settings, but still looks great.
Thank you for this video! Where I can see difference between Zen5 and Zen5c in cache sizes? Didn't saw that difference in 8xxx APUs, C-cores just clocks lower
Not a word about battery or efficiancy from AMD and that answers all the main questions. Apart from gaming it stands no chance against qualcomm. Productivity consumers market will soon be dominated by qualcomm by 2025.
Doubt it, zen 5 is massively more efficient, and AMD has superior performance for the power it does use. The APU is already on par with GPUs, and Zen 5 does avx 512, AND hyper threading. There is literally no way Qualcomm comes close, and they just got hit with a severe security vulnerability. WHAT? YOU GONNA BUY OVER PRICED QUALCOMM FOR BUSINESS USE, ARE YOU NUTS? It's not even compatible with software! Make sure you install crowdstrike on those Qualcomm devices lol. Some people just don't have brains.
I really hope they will come also to 15 inch laptops.. got myself the snapdragon surface ( 15 inch ).. great build quality ( lot better than asus,hp,Lenovo ) but export video’s after editing takes ages.. really hoping for a surface with the new intel or maybe amd processor..
Thank you for the excellent coverage, Gordon. Even if this is not strictly new information, I think it's worth revisiting before launch, since a lot of people don't follow the news constantly. I'm excited about Strix Point, but I was also highly interested in Snapdragon X, and I absolutely fell in love with the build quality and low emissions of the Surface Laptop 7, so I simply had to buy it, haha. So far I'm very happy with it. But still these are quite exciting times, and I'm curious to see what will the increased competition between these three companies bring.
Maybe I missed it. But apart of the AI component on the chip, does it have the igpu that "Moores law is dead" waa/is vocal about ? Currently running on Minix 0db brick, very frugal but hot :
They look like a press deck from a media kit. Looking for the press release on AMD's website didn't reveal them. Maybe you've have better luck looking there than I did.
You might google for some of the key stats on some pages, maybe you'll get a hit . Also if you have an android phone its great to have triple-tap to screen magnify (turn on with accessibility settings).
These should be great for those who need performance. However, for battery life, Lunar Lake will be the real competitor to Qualcomm in the PC space. I don't see these being competitive in terms of efficiency.
@@dantebg100 It better in single thread compare to M3. But M3 better in multi thread because have more cores. It use Geekbench benchmark. Apple users mostly uneducated in technology.
I'm concerned this chip is going in the wrong direction for most mobile devices. We don't need a bazillion cores on CPUs, we need raw performance. For gaming especially, we NEED that cache and roughly 6 cores minimum (not to start a core debate, rather based on previous CPU benchmarks) of high performing cores. I don't feel that 4 powerful cores are going to move the needle forward for gaming and I don't think a trash can full of gimpped cores are going to cut it either. This should at least have been a reverse, 8 performance cores and 4 compact. Again, who really needs that many cores on mobile? It's probably only a small user base inefficiently doing video editing and other creative workloads when that they'd be way better off (and almost certainly more cost effective) moving their workflow to a desktop anyway.
AMD is always comparing to the worse for percentage, even if it does not work at all on ARM. If it did work on ARM, which it doesn't, we'd be 33% faster than ... Intel?
It better in single thread compare to Apple M3. But M3 better in multi thread because have more cores. It use Geekbench benchmark. So Zen5 is the most powerful core right now.
In Zen4 the previous generation of Zen5, Zen4 better efficiency than Intel. But Intel have lower idle power. In leak benchmark Zen5 better efficiency compare than Zen4. If Zen5 can have low idle power, it will better than Intel for all aspect.
It's so good to see you again Gordon. Many prayers up for your health brother.
Gordon! you rock!
my father is also fighting cancer. Good luck Cordon!
Good to see you Gordon - Rock On
I love you Gordon, you have a figure for decades and I've following since the early days. God Bless you brother.. wishing you continued success and good health. again love you brother! (You're a real one.!)
Great to see you Gordon!
You are a fighter, Rock on!!
I have the impression that AAA games (especially ones with anti-cheat and similar systems) are the ones that tend not to run on Snapdragon, and if someone is mostly playing indie-like games, they're much safer. So far I tried to run maybe 10 games on my Surface Laptop 7, and to my surprise all ran without any issues. I think Subnautica crashed once when I tried auto Super Resolution, but even that worked fine afterwards. And I just tried Grounded, and shockingly enough it runs beautifully and smooth with FSR, on low settings, but still looks great.
Ryzen AI 370 = 9900HX
Ryzen AI 365 = 9850HX
Ryzen AI 360 = 9800HX
Anyone can speculate when we will start seeing these in handhelds?
Thanks for your hard work. How efficient are these?
Thank you for this video! Where I can see difference between Zen5 and Zen5c in cache sizes? Didn't saw that difference in 8xxx APUs, C-cores just clocks lower
Nicely done, Gordon 👍
Not a word about battery or efficiancy from AMD and that answers all the main questions. Apart from gaming it stands no chance against qualcomm. Productivity consumers market will soon be dominated by qualcomm by 2025.
Doubt it, zen 5 is massively more efficient, and AMD has superior performance for the power it does use. The APU is already on par with GPUs, and Zen 5 does avx 512, AND hyper threading. There is literally no way Qualcomm comes close, and they just got hit with a severe security vulnerability. WHAT? YOU GONNA BUY OVER PRICED QUALCOMM FOR BUSINESS USE, ARE YOU NUTS? It's not even compatible with software! Make sure you install crowdstrike on those Qualcomm devices lol. Some people just don't have brains.
Nobody does it better than Gordon.
I think the AMD compact cores mostly use simpler control circuitry such as earlier generation branch prediction or fewer register renaming sets.
"It's finally here (almost, no not really)!"
I really hope they will come also to 15 inch laptops.. got myself the snapdragon surface ( 15 inch ).. great build quality ( lot better than asus,hp,Lenovo ) but export video’s after editing takes ages.. really hoping for a surface with the new intel or maybe amd processor..
I think the AMD strix halo will be comparable to M series chip on the graphics side.
Thank you for the excellent coverage, Gordon. Even if this is not strictly new information, I think it's worth revisiting before launch, since a lot of people don't follow the news constantly. I'm excited about Strix Point, but I was also highly interested in Snapdragon X, and I absolutely fell in love with the build quality and low emissions of the Surface Laptop 7, so I simply had to buy it, haha. So far I'm very happy with it. But still these are quite exciting times, and I'm curious to see what will the increased competition between these three companies bring.
Maybe I missed it.
But apart of the AI component on the chip, does it have the igpu that "Moores law is dead" waa/is vocal about ?
Currently running on Minix 0db brick, very frugal but hot :
Does someone wher i can download these slides. I would really like to look at the end notes.
They look like a press deck from a media kit. Looking for the press release on AMD's website didn't reveal them. Maybe you've have better luck looking there than I did.
I'm not sure but I believe these slides are usually for press only.
You might google for some of the key stats on some pages, maybe you'll get a hit . Also if you have an android phone its great to have triple-tap to screen magnify (turn on with accessibility settings).
👍 sound good bro MVP
It's not about if you game or not at certain price you laptop should run game decently
These should be great for those who need performance. However, for battery life, Lunar Lake will be the real competitor to Qualcomm in the PC space. I don't see these being competitive in terms of efficiency.
The only reason to get an AI-enabled computer is for the RISC processors that really extend battery life.
Which cpu’s performance can compare to this one?
When the M4 on laptops comes out towards the end of the year.
@@GlobalWave1 hahha, good joke. I bet they can't even compete with m2
@@dantebg100 It wasn’t really a joke. The dude asked what cpu performance can compare with this.
Only draw back is its apple 😅
@@dantebg100 It better in single thread compare to M3. But M3 better in multi thread because have more cores. It use Geekbench benchmark. Apple users mostly uneducated in technology.
will these come with a 4080 or with a 4090 ?
I'm concerned this chip is going in the wrong direction for most mobile devices. We don't need a bazillion cores on CPUs, we need raw performance. For gaming especially, we NEED that cache and roughly 6 cores minimum (not to start a core debate, rather based on previous CPU benchmarks) of high performing cores. I don't feel that 4 powerful cores are going to move the needle forward for gaming and I don't think a trash can full of gimpped cores are going to cut it either. This should at least have been a reverse, 8 performance cores and 4 compact. Again, who really needs that many cores on mobile? It's probably only a small user base inefficiently doing video editing and other creative workloads when that they'd be way better off (and almost certainly more cost effective) moving their workflow to a desktop anyway.
those names are very awful ngl
Nobody is gonna run blender on a laptop without a discrete GPU so those results are a nothing-burger ...
AMD is always comparing to the worse for percentage, even if it does not work at all on ARM. If it did work on ARM, which it doesn't, we'd be 33% faster than ... Intel?
the base is intel in there, and most of the time intel is better than the arm
It better in single thread compare to Apple M3. But M3 better in multi thread because have more cores. It use Geekbench benchmark. So Zen5 is the most powerful core right now.
Can ya’ll call out Intel over their current situation! ?Y’all the only ones that are being silent about it.
It seems like AMD will have better graphics but Intel will have better battery.
In Zen4 the previous generation of Zen5, Zen4 better efficiency than Intel. But Intel have lower idle power. In leak benchmark Zen5 better efficiency compare than Zen4. If Zen5 can have low idle power, it will better than Intel for all aspect.