Were the Eastern Romans and Arabs Always at War? - Pre-Crusades DOCUMENTARY
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- Kings and Generals historical animated documentary series on the history of religions, Middle Ages and the early Muslim caliphate as well as the Eastern Roman (Byzantine Empire) continues with an episode talking about the relations between the Romans and the Arabs in the period before the crusades, as we discuss cultural, political, military and economic aspects of the relationships between the two cultures.
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Respect to Levantine and gulf Arabs from Greece
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Where is Arab Gulf? You mean Persian gulf?
@@moda1496 Arabian Gulf There is no such thing as the Persian Gulf Arab Ahwaz, occupation from Britain, handed over to Iran, Iranian occupation of Ahwaz, 1925
all was fun until the turks arrived.
This channel is a treasure trove of history
It truly is. That's why this is the only channel where I have a membership
@@bloodygoat6941 true that gotta respect that dedication especially how they been following the Ukraine war for years now
I love how the thumbnail looks like the meme of the two Chads talking to each other
Technically, it is.
Chadius maximus is talking to abdullah al-based
Oooh yeah
@@dr1o761😂👍👍
Sounds like an Arabic name as well 😂@@dr1o761
Thanks K&G for giving us a good insight on such topics that are not very covered in some literature.
When I first found this channel, I quickly became extremely disappointed in my standard schooling, it completely failed me on the topic of History! ❤
@@apexnext you and me both my friend.
11:56
A small correction: Amir al-Umara meant something like "king of kings" or "commander of commanders." During the early 10th century, the Caliph's authority as both the religious and the worldly leader of all Muslims was halved, reducing the Caliph to only a religious leader who passed his duty as the worldly leader of all Muslims to another person (usually a military commander) who was then titled _Amir al-Umara._
The caliph didn't really has much to say on religious matters especially after the mihna period 833-851 which began because al-Ma'mun tried to take Supreme authority on religious matters from the Ulema which failed and sunni Islam is very decentralized in religious leadership there's no Supreme head like the pope or a patriarch but there is scholars who produced legal opinions or fatwas and there's jurists who judge between people and are usually appointed by the head of a city to see into people's problems but caliphs are the Supreme governing leaders or "secular leaders" for the most part
Prince of princes
Prince of princes
*_Shahanshah_*
@@Shahanshah101 I'm fairly certain that the Caliphal title was-consciously or not-influenced by the ancient Persian royal title.
I love the videos you all do and thank you for putting so much time and effort into them
Great video. Please keep up the good work. I'm glad I can support this channel and enjoy amazing videos with fantastic quality!
It could be cool to have a video about the language evolution of the Eastern Roman Empire, from Latin to Greek!
Such insights are very valuable K&G always deliver the best narrative on such topics, I admire and respect them for it, they truly give their full dedication when sharing such details to us.
Love to see your cultural videos. Could you cover the Byzantine influence in Italy, especially that contributing to the Renaissance.
Great video! Thanks K&G.
This has to be one of the best history channels on TH-cam
Love ur Chanel, keep the good work up🎉❤
Thanks for the videos I allways watch everyone
Great content as always
Never forget during umayyad caliph umar bin abdul azeez’s rule where there was a peace treaty between romans mentioned to the roman emperor that he was renovating the prophet’s mosque in madhina in which romans sent artists and experts and also gold and other valuables to be included in the renovation..
Great video as always!
Great video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
Definitely an interesting time
Amazing content. Keep it up.
"We name it thus because it has been thus known since the olden times as (the land) of the Rum. It was thence that there came the Ancient Rum and Yunanis (Ionians)."
Ibn Battuta, 'Voyages of Ibn Battuta'
Well, one of the factors of the Islamic Golden Age was the translation of ancient works from Greek to Syriac and then Arabic by Eastern Christians, including Byzantine scholars.
so?
@@emmanuelucrosacosta1845 So when people credit the ancient Muslims for coming up with all this big brain stuff they are overestimating them. Deal with it and have a cry.
@@MasonBryant it seems that you are the one coping here lmao
@@MasonBryant Christians and Jewish scholars certainly contributed to the islamic golden age, but to use that to detract from muslims who contributed a lot to the *islamic* golden age truly just shows you’re trying to push your own narrative instead of maintaining historical accuracy. Christians and Jewish people’s contribution in the scholarly fields just shows how inclusive these islamic empires were and how there was inclusion of people of other faiths in various aspects of society, so you’re really only fooling yourself if you’re trying to make muslims look bad lmao.
basically greek work was basically a great element but not the biggest, the knowledge acquired from Persia, india, china.
and to the Muslims credit they've always credited the greeks, persians, indians for whatever improvement.
That wasn't the attitude of Europeans post Muslim Spain and the Levant campaigns (you see European intellectuals like Decart, adam smith, and others) using Ibn khaldoun and ibn hytham work without quoting them.
Europeans made us feel as if they woke up in the 16th century and recovered intellectually in a blink of eye.
A lot of what europeans said they first discovered in 18th century was already taught in the "golden age" for example the scientific method.
not saying the west contribution wasn't profound in the past and recent days but as greek/romans took the credit of all eygptian work the did it to other cultures as well.
Most ironic thing to me is that how both Arab world and Greek world worked together for Enlightenment of knowledge it shame both Greek and Arab Enlightenment not acknowledged enough and shame the loss of knowledge suffered with sack of Baghdad
Again, a fantastic insight into the complexities of Middle Aged history.
Massive thanks for an awesome video.
Its impressive that the Byzantine empire lasted as long as it did
Just amazing, as always. Bravo, Kings & Generals!
The two greatest empires of their era, Arabs and Romans, in a constant state of warfare. The greatest rivalry of the Middle Ages. But no one would've predicted the Turks would gobble both their former dominions and rule it as both Caliph of Islam and Kaiser of Rome for more centuries than the Roman-Arab wars took. Crazy when you think about it!
It’s interesting, the Turks took the role that the Arabs did when they came out of nowhere will Rome and Persia were fighting
@@inoovator3756 To a small extent, but the Turks, unlike the Arabs, did not create a completely new civilization that came to replace the conquered, rather the Turks were only a continuation of that same civilization created by the Arab forces of the late 7th century.
@@sacripan8915 Turks similar like mongols and turks detory romans stop talking shit arabs never you were igronant never same civizalation
@@sacripan8915 You very igr*nant stop talking about the turks never same civizilation with arabs turks were mongol nomadic forces war against romans he is hunnic ancestor war against romans ATTİLA ERa.
We were believers Allah honored us, and today when we seek glory in something else Allah has humiliated us.
Best channel out there!
Thank you for the video
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You are the best history channel 🎉
Such a great video, this one is! I love it! Ever since I've been diving into the history about the relations between the Roman Empire and the Abbasid Caliphate, I always wanted to see a video about such a topic! So thank you, Kings and Generals, for making this wish come true! Also, why the story about the Roman envoy named Tarath who went to congratulate Caliph al-Mahdi in Baghdad for his ascension as the new Caliph on behalf of Emperor Constantine V is not part of this video?
P.S: I swear! Every time I saw the Roman Empire is about to make a come back, something like migrating tribes must happened and ruin everything! When the Germanic tribes migrated down south and become the foederati for the Roman Empire, it eventually led to the Western Roman Empire's territories to be carved into pieces and ruled by these Germanic tribal chiefs that proclaimed themselves as the Kings who ruled these lands on behalf of the Roman Augustus in Constatninople. And when the Seljuk Turks immigrated into the Middle East and Anatolia, it eventually led to the Roman Empire losing Anatolia with the Islamic powers in the Middle East being conquered on the way as well.
Don't forget that the first Arabs were also "migrating tribes" that ruined everything.
@@user-bi7xd8ry5p I know that too.
@@user-bi7xd8ry5pلم تدمر كل شي بل بنو اعظم المدن في الشرق الاوسط بغداد
@@user-bi7xd8ry5p Ruined everything? You mean ruined the romans?
I much prefer a retelling of events in a chronological order. Nonetheless, I enjoyed the visuals as always. Very professional K&G!
Different formats. Thanks!
This is the third time that K&G has made a video within a week of me wondering about something random. Its scary, but i like it.
This channel offers a wealth of historical insights. K&G's dedication to delivering the best narrative is admirable. Fascinating tidbit about the peace treaty during Umayyad Caliph Umar bin Abdul Azeez's rule!
King and generals often engage in extensive discussions regarding the cultural and territorial transformations of Turks, Arabs, and Persians. However, they have consistently overlooked the Kurds during these periods of change. It would be highly intriguing to witness a dedicated episode exploring the Kurds, their historical territories like the Sadakiyans, Daysam, Shaddadids, Rawadids, Marwanids, Ayyubids, Principality of Bitlis, Mukriyan etc... and the reasons behind their integration with the other powers around and subsequent developments.
The narrator is one of the best out there 😊
nice choice of topics
Would really love a re-make or perhaps additional more in-depth content about Byzantine-Persian contact throughout the tenure of both and the various iterations/incarnations of the latter
At some point
@@KingsandGeneralsHEY K&G
PUT BACK THE ORIGINAL THUMBNAIL.
@@KingsandGenerals More Persian content in general would be nice.
*Roman
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Good video!
Every new K&G Video always puts a fat smile on my face.
AWESOME!
Excellent video
This channel is AWESOME.... please share more great contents. Love & respect from Bangladesh
Y'all at K&G killed it with this one!
I've always been way interested in the Religious and Relationship history of countries,
And how the course of the world could have changed dramatically if any of the Abrahamic religions didn't exist, or, if they were generally different.
question: are you gonna make a video about the upcoming game "manor lords"? saw that you commented on one of their posts on twitter.
@KingsandGenerals could you please make a video about Roman-Turk Relations before the Crusades - Middle Ages DOCUMENTARY
Great info here.
I think you are too focused on Mediterranean/Middleast history and I am here for it.
You should definitely do detail video on Bulgarian -Byzantine affairs . One of the oldest and longest rivals in Europe
Thanks for the great product
There are a few videos on that on our channel
This is unrelated, but I'd love a series eventually covering the Sokoto Caliphate and the Fulani Jihads. I think it has the potential to cover both Islamic and African diplomatic relations and slave revolts in the new world.
Very good suggestion man!
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That sounds really interesting
Excellent suggestion! that video would definitely trigger African (Nigerian) evangelicals who spout ridiculous propaganda abt Islam and the Fulanis😹
Please videos on the life of the prophet. Books of Joel Hayward can be taken as reference. Yasir Qadhi seerah videos can also be used but they have more religious inclinations....
This great reference if you want to play as Abbasid in Crusader King 3
As an Arab, I like so much greek culture, cusine , Ancient methodology’s, Old Buildings, such agreat culture 🇬🇷🏛️
Sending love and warm greetings 😊💙💙💙
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Thanks!
*Amir al Umara means Amir of Amirs not Caliph of Caliphs
Good video as usual
Thank you very much!!👍🏽 great video
Amazing content as always! One thing that has always perplexed me was how despite having no naval tradition or experience, the early Muslims were able to build a navy that was able to inflict numerous defeats to the much larger, experienced and advanced Roman navy, gaining naval superiority within a short amount of time. If you could make a video on that, it would be awesome!
Well a big part of that, at least for the first several hundred years that Islam was on the Mediterranean. The ships were built and mostly manned by Christian sailors, be they Egyptian copts or Syrian Greeks and other former Romans.
simple answer: hire christians
As already said, most of their Navy was built up and composed of Romans and Christians from the formerly Roman provinces of Egypt and the Levant. It's also why the second siege of Constantinople failed because the Coptic Christian Egyptian sailors- a vast majority of the Arab Navy- mutinied refusing to invade the Holy city of Constantinople. During those times Constantinople was considered the holiest among the pentarchy of Jerusalem, Alexandria, Antioch and Rome.
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Does that matter? Its not about building ships but about their inexperince and lacked knoweldge of navy but still able to won in navy warfare first arab navy battle were battle of masts ended in their victory
@@ryojs4286but the romans win to arabs
As an Arabian man, I love this, make more videos about our History.
as an orthodox christian, Byzantine rite, many salutations to our arabian friends...
we are still here ,despite many changes since 1000 years ago...
Have a nice day,
i'm Dan, from Romania
@@dand7763 As a half-Saudi Arabian and half-Romanian guy who loves the history of the Balkans and the Middle East, hello to both of you and I hope you have a lovely day 🥰.
I’m loving this thread 🥰 true Christians (orthodox) and true Muslims (Sunni) conversing much like the followers of these two faiths Glorious past 👌🏿
@@remz7619 My history is only a little bit connected with this as a Somali, but learning history is great. it teaches us our wrongs and rights and what we should to in the future.
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How often do I think about the Roman Empire? Every day :v
well my workplace is 50m away from a Roman arc, how could I not think about the Roman empire daily?
Awesome
It's very interesting to find that the way the arabs and romans' interactions mirrors how the ancient egyptians and hittites interacted with each other
They reigned for a long time, two major powers cant Always be at war and rule for a long time
4:41 would you be able to do a video on what would have been diplomatic missions and stations in the ancient, Middle Ages, Islamic Golden age, and then into the Renaissance?
excellent
Abdul 🍜 the third. Rah-man. But otherwise fascinating video and another great one!
I really like this type of map, they should use it more
I wonder if you'll do a video on the rise and fall of the Aztec Empire.
The Rise part is sketchy, because they replaced another group called the Toltec, but it wasn't through war. They sort just disappeared.
Juan kurkuas merece su propio video
What is the music playing just after the intro ?
More Latin American history videos, please! Long ago you said you were working on a series on Latin American independence wars and nothing came of it! Your videos are awesome but you keep focusing on stuff and regions that have been covered over and over again by countless channels. There is a lot of awesome and fascinating history outside of WWII and the medieval Mediterranean.
Effectively the Arab golden age was fueled by the byzantines and the exchange of Ancient Greek literature
And Iberia
You are downplaying the contribution of the Persians by writing the Arab golden age.
Your exaggerating , that had little impact on the Islamic golden age , if anything fuelled anything, the Islamic golden age played a part in fuelling the Renaissance
@@junudallah6406 The Renaissance's intellectual basis was its version of humanism, derived from the concept of Roman humanitas and the rediscovery of classical Greek philosophy, such as that of Protagoras, who said that "man is the measure of all things".
There was an Arab contribution since they had copied certain Ancient Greek literature that were in the meantime destroyed in the west
@@Shahanshah101 fair point. Persians were very critical to the islamic golden age through their own achievements and through their rich interaction with the east and west
Could you please do a video about the irish gallowglass warrior
Hiberno-Norse*
Please do the civil was in Myanmar, it has the worst media coverage and is very confusing to understand the different factions vs the junta, currently the regime is falling and would be a perfect part 1 to the series. I beg of you ❤
thanks!
Thank you
please do a video on these
(this is a copy and paste list for a few channels)
units and tactics/evaluation of loadouts of troops (from different jobs (and other branches)
like the 82 snd 101 airborne units
or infantry tank units, (or when tanks were assigned a infantry unit like i think earlier war Russia then all tanks were formed into there own units wich meant the infantry no longer knew the true strength of there own tanks but alowed tank units to fight more efficiently)
the tank doctrine of countries
evaluation of tank veiw ports
evaluation of tanks/armored vehicles of different countries
evaluation of aircraft types of different countries,
different between navil and army/air force fighters
logistics units of the axes and allied powers in ww2
ww1 estern front tactics
Russian Civil war tactics and strategies
navil ship cross sections (all the rooms and how it all works)
evaluation of types of ships
or evaluation of navil warfare (or just dedectsded videos on ww1 and ww2 navil doctrine as theres stuff out there on other times of history)
air craft carrier strike group formations exsamples (from different countries)
ancient persan ships,
ancient veneti ships (gauls that fought ceaser)
ships used by genoa and the vernesain republic
the vernesain republic government
all sailing ships, (i know theres many on yt but some contradict each other and i think theres more left out)
ancient macenean greek and trojan troops
2b9 vasilyok morter
tactics used so far in the Ukraine war,
better for squads to be 2 teams of 5 or 3 teams of 3,
and probably the easiest, better to keep troops well feed or starved like an animal
how dose age effect comsnders eg napoleon got older so took less risks,
ancient urban warfare
ww2 tactics in Asia, tactics in the Chinese age of warlords, (and Chinese civil war)
tactics in the ruso jap war
cold war navil tactics,
Korean war tactics,
strange tactics or unque battles from the American war of independence and America civil
how were 17th centry sailing ships build
types of bombs lunched by drones
comands given on sailing ships (like ease the sheets and get ready to chine, or slack n beases, basically things you hear movie capitns say)
why did the nazis never return (or a video on best occupations)
why did the Japanese empire fall, dont just say "America" like things like how there army and navy argued alot
alot more on the Polynesians and māori, but please learn pronounceations if you do this
They should make a Video on Vietnam War and Mali Empire
West Africa in general
K&G, whether the early muslim expansion season 3 series still be continue?
yep
One thing about Eastern Roman history is that, due to how they spread and how many of their major cities are natural commerce hubs around the Med, every major rival in the region was also a major trading partner. You often had the border areas trading quite cordially during wars before the clashing armies arrived (and often even when they did during the lulls in the fighting).
This happened with a lot of regional hegemons throughout history, really.
How did the Abbasid reacts to the sack of Constantinople 1204 and the Roman reacts to the sack of Baghdad 1258?
It was during the Ayyubids reigns
Interesting
Gave us a video on the arab Roman before islam
As a Greek, I respect Arabs 🇬🇷🤝🇸🇦
@@Monarchist_ This can't be the level of modern discourse. Shove those emojis up a place where sun doesn't shine.
It was Levantine, Mesopotamian, and North African Arabs not those from the Gulf
@@Monarchist_ The Byzantines viewed themselves as the successors to the Greeks and to the Ancient Romans. Read some actual Byzantine texts boy.
As rude American, I sneer at you! Hoh hoh hoh!
@@Monarchist_ The Byzantines were not Italian bud. If you don't know anything about medieval history, then why do you feel the need to express your opinion?
Arabs❤️greeks 2 of the greatest mediterranean civilisations
The Ancient greeks and romans (roman kingdoms, republic, and empire) of classical antiquity 800 bce to 457ad (and beyond) are more closely related to the middle eastern civilizations and cultures than they are to the rest of Europe (its common sense really, look at the spread of world civilization timeline and its focal point spreading outward),
and not only in culture and fellow civilization creators and influencers but also in ethnic background (mediterranean peoples, ancient greeks and romans are a big majority of Anatolian neolithic farmer dna profile, an ethnicity originating with the rest of the east mediterranean at the time, on the fertile crescent, arabic is the same with natufian).
It was only during the fall of the western roman empire did it become what the romans call germanic barbarian, and then even moreso did southern europe become culturally aligned with europe during the renaissance (a short time in comparison a mediterranean/east-mediterranean focused relation)
greeks yes arabs no...
@@lyricofwise6894No Greeks and Romans are Indo-Europeans and their DNA is more closely related to other europeans. arabs and mesopotamians have no Anatolian farmer DNA. They have no relation at all.
Actually no it was roman and Greek the greatest civilization in the Mediterranean
@@RichardEdwards40
How arabs no? Arab caliphate were experinced and flourished of trade route and sicence and knoweldge
Please make videos on the most militarized region in the world ' Kashmir 🍁 '
Crusade wars were fought mostly between Franks ( Normans ) and Sunni ( Kurdish -Turkic ) muslims only.
Ayyubids are Arabs
thats a lie. Very few kurds were in the armies that fought the crusades . All most of time it was arabs fighting crusaders through out all the middle ages. A kurd salah al din being the leader dose not magically transform his arab levant egyptian army in to a kurdish one
@@ziyadpepe6291
Who defeated 2nd crusade? Crusade of 1101 and 7th crusade?
@@ziyadpepe6291Wrong Crusade man that’s the Third Crusade.
The above poster is trying to Turkish wank by talking about the 2nd Crusade against Damascus and to reclaim Edessa.
@@ziyadpepe6291 Ottoman turks seljuk turk destory the crusader.
Aww where'd the two chads talking to each other thumbnail go?
Tbh this reminds me a bit of the Cold War relationship of the USA & USSR.
What a wonderful video! The decline of (and the impact on the West of the tail end of) Roman and the rise of Islam were such transformational events that don't get as much discussion as they should.
Please multiple audio language track activate i wacth in hindi
ERE Lives on within us.
Show us a video on the roman and arabs before islam
That's an interesting one
Everyone just wants a Science victory.
Shalom (Hebrew) & Salam (Arabic) mean the same - “peace”
Romans persecuted Jews before Islam was a thing
Both the Arabs and the Jews are Semitic. They are pretty much cousin.
Modern media doesn't view that way. @@cakapcakep241
Why have you guys increased the playback speed on your latest videos? At normal speed the narrator talks noticeably faster. Taking the speed back to .75 it’s to slow. Trying to get all videos under 20min maybe?
We haven't increased the speed using software. Devin is talking faster because the average word count of the script has increased.
Surprised how nobody has pointed it out before, but I noticed that in the description bibliography is actually from the video about life of Jews in the Caliphate
Oops. My bad, copied the wrong link
Our modern world has decided the Mediterranean world was a constant conflict between Christianity and Islam, between North and South and that is simply not the case.
Our modern world is hightly affected by the western way of thinking and the west is simply delusional that is why.
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