Just Because It Says Honda Doesn't Mean You Don't Have To Do Maintenance
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Thanks for watching. In this video we revisit an old repair and talk about why reading the manual can be beneficial. - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
I picked up that very same mower for $20 last year and it had been extremely abused. Bad fuel, corroded carb, broken pull rope, sludge for oil, no air filter and it had been sitting out in the weather for I don't know how long. I replaced or fixed the mechanical parts but was worried about that sludge in the engine. I drained it out, replaced it with 20% Marvel Mystery Oil and 80% 10W30 and ran it for about 5 hrs. then drained it again and it was thick and black but not nearly as bad. I did the same thing one more time and then filled it with 100% 10W30. The MMO cleaned the inside of that engine nicely and now she purrs. I use MMO in my fuel and oil, works for me but your mileage may vary!!
nice use of MMO!
Sir, taking a little time and a little money you wound up with a good piece of equipment.
In life, I have usually been disappointed after the few times I have bought new, high end products. They just never seem to perform to my high expectations for the amount of cash I parted with. More recently, I find that “high end”, “high price” seems to be more about brand recognition for once high quality brands that have devolved down to “bells and whistles” tacked onto a mediocre quality product in an attempt to justify the inflated price. Since my needs and interests are usually more about durability rather than high tech accessories, these type of products don’t catch my attention often. The few higher end products I own were obtained second (third, or even forth) hand and were obtained broken and I repaired it or gifted to me by generous people. I’d be hard pressed to pay $800 for a good, used riding mower; let alone a new push mower.
well said, second hand high end keeps you from paying too much and yet you still get what you want.
I do my own maintenance. Blow off the deck and engine bay when done, keep the underside scraped and clean, change the oil 2X a year along with the filter, use ethanol free gas, change fuel filter and air cleaner, lube cables....Just takes a few minutes, with just this a mower will last many years. There's something satisfying about seeing that goopy black oil being drained. I've also started putting a bit of Marvel MO in the gas and oil, hopefully will help with the carbon buildup and sludge. Most importantly, run the engine dry before storage!!!!
Nice! And all great advice.
I have repaired and sold hundreds of mowers. The Honda is a premium quality mower. The issue is that the poor quality of fuel and the absurd lack of basic maintenance by the owner places it in the exact category with other brands. My personal opinion, only a misinformed person would pay $800 and up for a mower (engine) that inevitably end up in the same 55 gal. drum .
well said!
I bought this same mower about 8 years ago. I perform regular maintenance annually with 2 oil changes per season. This year I’m planning on servicing hydro and adjust valves. I enjoy doing maintenance on my “toys” but I get frustrated when I have to fix it knowing how much care and preventing maintenance was done to the machine. I will miss Honda mowers in the future with its quality cut.
I'll miss them too, hopefully something will change to allow them to come back
Hopefully things will change in the future
Rumrunner,
It's a good idea to check the valve adjustment every 2 years. It may not need it, but still a good idea to check it. Good luck sir.
@@bertgrau3934you’re right, I’ve been slacking and I totally agree with you.
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Thank you Sir.
Happy New Year.
I spent my whole life running and fixing other peoples stuff and my own and always tried to do the best job I could, whether it was at home or at a place on the goffer course, whether it was a dozer or a mower or a truck. Didn't matter. I got a bonus from a local pal I was running his stuff from and told him I'd pay him back. He got a little indignant and stuck his nose up and asked how I thought I could do that. I leveled him a scorcher eyeball to eyeball and said 'I'll take care of your blamed old STUFF' with plenty of emphysys on STUFF. Matters not whose or what. That's my story. Happy weekend.
very good story!
The truth will stand on it's own little flat feet!@@HomeGaragechannel
Yes,I do all of my own maintenance as well as my dads because I know that he doesn't really do much maintenance on his lawn equipment
I know that if I didn't change the oil in my dads 20 year old Honda GX35 powered line trimmer then it would seize up so I often check the oil & if it's too low on oil then I just dump it out & refill the crankcase with new oil because it doesn't take very much oil !
that's very nice of you
That engine is not wanting to run properly but it is in the right hands to get fixed up and running again
thank you
@@HomeGaragechannel you are welcome home garage
Excellent video….again!!!!
I do most if not all of my own maintenencae in all of my small engines, a lot of it thanks to watching your videos! Thank you again!!
thank you and I appreciate your time
I also maintain all my own equipment and one of the things I do when it comes to gas is to buy only ethanol free regular gas in 5 gallon containers. Not many stations have ethanol free regular but with a little searching you can find it now. Have never had a fuel related issue with my equipment. Also your advice to keep your equipment maintained to make it last a very long time is accurate. Enjoy watching your videos.
thank you very much, I appreciate your time here!
Enjoyed I have that mower for 12 years good product I try to look after it.
nice, and by the sounds of it, you're already beating the average time for a mower.
Unfortunately a lot of people don’t care and they are really rough on lawnmowers I have found really expensive lawnmowers in the trash that people beat on and it’s sad that someone would buy a expensive lawnmower to beat on and not take care of especially a Honda mower they last forever if you treat them well
I know it's a real shame
I do my own of cours 12:41 e. I find a lot of people will change oil, spark plugs, and air filters but are clueless about fuel.
agreed
I do my own maintenance, except for doing a valve job, I remove the head, a B&S OHV and have a friend that owns a machine shop. He fixed a valve guide, and did a valve job. That engine never ran so good. Some people say just put a new head on, but for half the cost of a new head, I have a very good running engine and probably better than a new head. Just my opinion.
nice, having good friends helps out a lot
Yeah really it’s just like, just because it’s a Toyota and last hundreds of thousands of miles doesn’t mean you shouldn’t maintain them.
Spending a lot of money to get a Honda mower doesn’t mean it’ll last with little to no maintenance.
If you of course do actually maintain them they’ll last a very long time for sure. And to also answer the question, yes I work on everything I own. For the most part it’s all about paying someone else to do something that I could easily do the same way for free. And I have a lot of trust issues when it comes to something like that. So I would just normally do it myself and if it was something I really couldn’t do or wouldn’t feel comfortable doing it myself, that’s when I would send it off to someone else to fix it!
thank you for sharing, I appreciate it.
I do my own maintenance on my own equipment. Great videos. Happy New Year to you!
thank you and Happy New Year to you as well.
Great video! Honda mowers are/were very expensive. If you don’t do anything to keep it going you’ve wasted a lot of money. I’ve seen people get really flat robbed buying used mowers. Especially, used junky lawn tractors. My father was very picky about how the mowers were used and taken care of. Generally, growing up; our mowers always worked. My dad would flip if he knew there are mowers that say you never change the oil. Just add. That’s nuts!
you and me both!
I flushed my Honda and my cheap trash found gardenline yesterday with diesel like always and quality oil back in. I have a collection of old manuals that are an interesting read.
wow very nice method
Mowing season isn't quite here for my area, but yesterday I tore down my mower got new fuel line with a shut off valve, cleaned out the carb, cleaned up the gas tank. Got the underside mostly scraped. Next thing I'm gonna do is take off the motor and grind away the rust that the previous owner let get on there. Then replace the blade. And change out the oil
nice, you're ahead of the class
I am with you on this one you got to check the oil you got to check the gas I drain my tank and then I take the bowl right off the bottom of the carburetor and I paper towel dry it THANK YOU FOR THE VIDEO AND HAPPY NEW YEAR'S
no problem and thank you. Happy New Year to you too.
No maintenance with battery power equipment! Really?
Why then I ditched battery powered equipment for petrol power equipment?
Oh, right. Battery powered was constantly breaking, the power was pathetic, the batteries last fukc all, after two sets of batteries I had to stop because... how does one recharges them on the field?
Anyone asking, battery powered equipment is more expensive to buy, to run, and will not get the job done as quickly nor as effectively as petrol.
I'll deal with oil changes every six months rather than the frustration of not getting things done.
You're absolutely right, my personal tools are very well taken care of, someone else's tools I'm working for, they pay me to get a job done, not to babysit tools, if the tools break or get damaged, I'm not the one reaching for the wallet, I don't give a f. All I care is getting the job done and getting paid.
I like this comment a lot
I have the slightly newer version of that mower with the gcv200 or 220 engine I only spent so much because after doing my own research I found it would work best for the grass and size of lawn I had keep up the awesome work ❤
that was a good choice
Never knew how well honda built these mowers and i own nothing but hondas (cars).
My toro briggs mower is about 15 yrs old simple maintenance oil/filter and some lubrication here and there. Simple maintenance goes a long way for any machine but not everyone can do it i guess. I just wish my toro had that throttle leverage from idle to full like this one. Great video and always looking forward for more push mowers on the channel.
yes the throttle lever can be very handy from time to time.
yep i give my tools a good overall cleaning and of course simple maintenance year after year when needed and they run like new first time and every time depending on the situation etc.
you're doing a great job!
I love your videos and you inspired my son so thanks my kid and happy New Year’s
thank you and Happy New Years to you too.
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TY for Sharing
You are so welcome
I personally do not think it's bad idea to let a family member mow the lawn for you as long as it's a trustworthy family member for example I actually do the lawn for my great aunt who is no longer able to do it and I generally just put gas in the machine because that's all she asks me to do she does the rest of the maintenance although she will sometimes have me help with some of the maintenance
hard part is finding that "right" family member. Most don't want to do it either.
I do the maintenance on my mowers and sometimes I do tune ups on a couple of my neighbors mowers
that's nice of you
I do all the maintenance on my mowers and I do it every season in the very beginning and I blow out the air filter every few weeks plus running the gas out in the winter
wow you're doing it right then
Thanks 😁
anytime
Hondas seem very sensitive to having a clean air filter. I vacuum my filter with a shop vac regularly to prevent the black smoke. Of course I still replace the filter, but I get enough dust that cleaning it makes sense.
I completely agree with you
Such a shame it was neglected it is a nice honda mower there especially the deck that wont rust
yes I know right!
When i was a teen, mowing lawns, i was hell on equipment. Change the oil? Ha! I didn't bother checking it half the time. These days the older me, being the person who purchased what I am using, i do maintain much better. My lawn tractor I take in because i have no way to collect the oil and dealing with it is a pain for me. I've gone with JD, another premium brand and yes if its taken care of it lasts a very long time. Otherwise you might as well get your equipment from walmart.
very nice and I like your idea with going with a premium lawn tractor
I, like you, do whatever I can to save $$.
But in this instance I understand. I was actually hoping the mower would die when I was a kid as it would get me out of cutting the grass.
The worst part? My parents had a manual, push reel, mower. Pure torture in August heat.
wow that is torture!
in this video, you used .30mm to clean pilot hole, can you pls add this to your listing about all the tools especially the one that is used to clean all jets. i will buy it with your affiliate. also what are the cause for black smoke that comes for fews seconds on exhaust. i assume leaky valve seal that get oil into block
no , I don't generally add information about the particular tools I use, that's unto the viewer to decide on.
I'm curious why you didn't check the spark arrestor on the exhaust to check air flow?
you're right I need to check that sometime thanks
Talking about owners manuals it doesn’t matter if I know how to use the machine or whatever I still read it because otherwise most the time it blows up on me so yeah everyone read your owners manuals😊
sorry to hear that
@@HomeGaragechannel yeah but I still read owners manuals I can’t wait for your next video :-)
home garage ive been watching you for a while and i have a question, i own a poulan 2000 woodsman and im working on it, ive heard horrible things about poulan's will mine last if i take care of it and maintain it?
the general answer is "yes" however, there are certain things that are not under your control that might fail. Those would included the oil pump, gaskets and seals that might fail due to time. .
Talking about honda if you do find a honda weed wacker or I don't know who would be waiting to see this but if you find one u should definitely troubleshoot it and personally I would like to see one
I've found a couple, but the funny part was that they were both working. So no repairs were needed on them.
I do my own work on my machines👍🙏👍🙏
NICE!
Amen about relaying on family 😂
LOL!!
Hey, i traded a cake for a briggs & stratton 4hp easy start 2 cycle mower for the intention of fixing. The problem i m having is that the engine goes up and down in rpm. I have installed a new airfilter, fuelfilter and lines, cleaned the gas tank and carburettor and tried adjusting the governor. Still it keeps revving up and down, but not as much as before. i can see the governor stabilising the rpm and it somewhat stabilises after maybe about 10-30 seconds.
the airfilter cover was missing so i made my own one.
any ideas where i could look next??
unfortunately without a model number for the mower, I can't really say. Can you find the model number somewhere?
@@HomeGaragechannel here s the informatioN i found
Model - 095722
Type - 3202-01
Year - 890112
the only thing i like about honda mowers is it starts with 1 pull, most of the time, the price wise it is outrageous to me, no 21" mowers need to be that expensive
I know how you feel. That's a lot of money
Check the valves
I'm pretty I checked them in a later video and they were still in tolerance
Tell them to use Trufuel instead. More expensive but doesn’t go bad.
thats good advice
Do my own 😊
nice
Those mowers don't fair well in high grass because there's no discharge on the deck only mulch or rear bagger
you are correct, I would not use this on tall , thick grass.
I have a question : I have a Weedeater brand string trimmer and I replaced the carburetor but it still won’t start. Do you think it’s the spark arrestor screen?
I'll add my dos centavos here and say no, but you should still check it. That usually just makes them run rough. You need 4 things for it to run. Fuel, spark, air and compression. If you don't have a meter, you can check for compression by picking up your machine by the pull rope handle. If it quickly pulls out you might not have good compression. Or you can pull the plug out and put you finger over the hole and pull the rope. You should feel it pushing your finger.
To check it it's a fuel or spark issue, put a little fuel in the carb throat and see if it starts. If it starts and runs, you should be OK. If it starts and dies, then you have a fuel issue, either bad fuel or the carb isn't pulling it. If it doesn't start at all then you might have a spark issue. Pull the plug and ground it out on the engine head and see if it sparks. If not try a new plug. If you still have no spark then it may be the ignition coil. And that's all I have to say about that.
I'm leaning more towards spark and compression right now. Have you confirmed spark yet?
A friend of mine had a similar situation, he replaced the carburetor, fuel filter, air filter, and it should run. He said the spark plug would fire outside the engine. He finally changed the spark plug and ran great. Just remember , with a 2 stroke engine, the carburetor may need fine tuning after it gets warmed up.
@@HomeGaragechannel no I haven’t even taken the spark plug out.
@@bertgrau3934 ah yes I just bought some carburetor tools and I’ll try to fix it.
I see honda being the dyson of the lawn mower world. Still great mowers though.
That black smoke concerned me a bit. I've had a few that shot out black smoke like a straight 6 Cummins 5.9 diesel engine.
you might be right
the same thing is happening here as the Cummins. It's running rich with fuel for a brief moment, a mini "rolling coal"
@@HomeGaragechannel right on the money.
Where did you get the tool to clean the jet under the screw?
Harbor Freight or you can order online
@@HomeGaragechannel what are they called?
Carbide Rotary Micro Bit
Carbide Rotary Micro Bit
@@HomeGaragechannel Is it a kit or individual bit?
This morning I am doing one that day for a couple months and won't start
good luck with it.
@HomeGaragechannel easy peasy, prolly just fuel that sat in the Texas sun and went bad, possibly gumming up the carb a bit
I do my own maintenance.
nice!
I do my own maintenance, I’ve always had the time.
nice!
the degreaser you get from Harbor Freight you don't diluted with water do you
I do not, but I would recommend it. Otherwise you have to be extremely careful.
I want to start repairing mowers but my parents won’t let me lol
don't worry, you'll get your chance soon enough.
I like lucky after engine's the problem is i have is eny change in my cars diesel engine note or other sounds i always think the worst i doth work on my own cars i only do the essentially checks my garage machineic says doth wory had he is always writing most of the time its something minor that the problem
Are we going to ignore the poor compression readings? Did you manage to check the valve lash?
the reading was done with the pull rope. Using a drill gets a reading close to 150 PSI.
@@HomeGaragechannel ah... ok. That wasn't shown (was it?), so I thought the compression was bad. Carry on. Never mind the peanut gallery.
no this video was not meant to be comprehensive but the actual repair videos goes into more detail.
All that abuse and look at that compression. I'd be curious to see what it read after the work.
hopefully it's better.
I fix everything myself
that's good to know
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thank you
RPM is low.
engine speed is adjustable so it still needs fine tuning
I hate the ones you have to adjust.