I usually hook my baits through the bottom jaw and out the top of the nose cartilage. It keeps the mouth shut while the lead is yanking them down at full throttle, helps keep the bait a little fresher. If you ever pull your sardine up and it's mouth is stuck wide open that's from the deep drop.
I used these with the Team Catfish weight slides to make a th-cam.com/users/postUgkxdmsDj7fQXe77DC0l7P7ua8B3PiESUubM Carolina rig and they were perfect for the ponds I fish. I have also used them to make 3 way rigs and these work perfectly. Haven't had any issues with them snagging in rocks or in weeds yet.
I have heard about that new sinker rig where it like a drop shot rig for bass.the sinker is on the bottom hook is tied to the main line with the sinker about 24inchs below the hook.
Dave, truly great educational video! My PB bft was this exact setup. When everyone else was working the flat fall, I pinned a mackerel on a 4 oz. sinker rig, fly line.....boom!
@@DaveysWorldFishing Is the sinker rig set up effective for night time fishing too or is it more effective for use when there's light out? I wanted to try sinker rig on my last trip but when I asked one of the deckhands he didn't recommend it due to the advantage of the glow on the jigs when being dropped 2-300 ft.
@@slixxster5118 That’s a pretty interesting comment from the deck hand. I’ve been in some epic night time sinker rig action. It’s definitely not a daytime only rig. The glow jigs obviously work incredible, but I’ve also had some fantastic dark bites on the Katy Perry and Red/Gold. That all said, I’d never hesitate to drop the sinker at night. If the big fish are keyed in on sardines and Chevy, they do t glow. Just my opinion though. Good luck out there.
Hey. After watching your video, I'm using this setup for the European catfish. (Silirus Glanus) Had my PB from 182 Cm on this system. Ok lost the weight from 3.5 €. A very big thank you.thank
The rail rods are very nice. I spent a lot of time with the XXXH at the rail this year. Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I appreciate the support.
Thanks Dave, I was using this rig fishing at night deep in current and had trouble with line twists, where and would you put a swivel somewhere on the line? Thanks again.
In general, a sinker rig is dropped straight down. The captain will tell you that the fish are down 180 feet, so you want to drop down as quickly as possible to that depth. No casting.
Hi there. First off, thank you for watching. As far as leader length goes, I like to with a length shorter than my rod. Something in the 4-5’ range or maybe a full arm length. I like to have no knots going through guides. That is just a personal preference and it works well for me. Some anglers like to go quite a bit longer. Not sure if there is a perfect length. The way I see it, I am usually fishing the sinker rig at night on on deep drops so the fish are a little less line shy. I hope that helps.
Great video. I attach my weight exactly as you described in your video. I nose hook my sardine as well. Often however when I change my bait, I find my sardine has twisted completely above the weight. When lowering the weight and bait, should I be going slower rather than just letting the weight go?
First off, thank you for stopping by and watching. I like to go somewhat slow on the drop. If you just free spool it on down you will see some twisting. If there is some current, or the boat is still on the slide you will see less twisting as the bait is out behind, but once the boat is equal to the current, I certainly slow down. Key is to present the liveliest bait possible to those hungry tuna. And slowing down certainly helps.
Nice setup and thanks for the tips! I have a Mak20IISea paired with a PCH XXXH. Also have a Fathom 60NL2 and Fathom 40NLD2 loaded with 100lb and 80lb braid, respectively. The next heaviest rod I have is a Phenix Black Diamond 700XH (30-80). Do you prefer the sinker rig on your heaviest setup? And in my case, would you fish a 300-500g knife/flatfall jig on either of the Fathoms matched to the 700XH? The next heaviest rods down from that are a Daiwa Saltiga conventional travel (30-50) and then a Lamiglas (25-50 - not sure I'd want to use this as there's a short foregrip on it though). TIA!
Hi Jeremy I generally use my heaviest rod for both my heavy knife jigs as well as my sinker rig set up. Since both don’t necessarily rely on “feel” I always figure the heavier the better. On the lighter, shorter foregrip rods, I’d probably use them on live bait set ups.
@@DaveysWorldFishing Thank you! Do you rig your knife and other jigs with a bite leader and change out all the hooks (e.g. with 10/0 assists + ST-66 5/0 trebles) as well? I've never rigged up a bite leader so was curious on that...
Hi Dewayne. Thank you for watching. Top shot is a personal preference. Some people swear by it, some don’t. I personally don’t use it. On the sinker rig you are generally fishing deep or at night, so line visibility isn’t much of an issue.
Great question. I will usually thumb my line down and let it fall pretty freely. I wouldn’t say there is an exact speed but pretty freely. Those schools of fish are moving pretty fast and you want to get it to them as quick as possible.
Hi J- it totally depends on the size of the bait and what the fish are keyed in on. A lot of folks go to the tank and grab the biggest, liveliest bait in the well, but if the fish are keyed in on small bait, this dies you no good. I will usually have with me, from smallest to largest: 4, 2, 1, 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 and 5/0. The hooks you will use most will probably be the 1-2/0 sizes. Ask the deckhand what they recommend. They’ll know what bait you have and get you set up. They want you to catch fish.
@@DaveysWorldFishing I fish out of long island NY. We're using butterfish, spot, small snapper bluefish for tuna. Those hooks seem pretty small how big a fish will you land on that size hook ? I don't have a ton of experience
@@jfisher101 We’ll catch big fish on them. Right now, 200lb bluefin are not uncommon on those size hooks. Out on the west coast we are using anchovy, sardine and mackerel for bait.
Your going the chaif up your line on the sinker. Better off using black tape doubled over as a quick release and 3 feet from the sinker is way to little we use at least 15 more like 25 out here on the East coast.
Waste of time. Go to Home Deport or any hardware store and buy a packet of 1/4 x 1 inch cork or rubber stoppers. About a dollar for 10 of em. Loop the line in one eye, insert the plug, repeat on the other end. Holds sinker in place, will not damage your line. Doing it since the 70's.
@@campinnfishin963 Not that Im aware, but maybe I can post one. Been doin' that way since the 1970's. Take a torpedo sinke with the "eyes" at each end. make a U shaped loop in your line and put it in one of the eyes. Insert the cork or stopper. Repeat on the other end. I have also used 10 oz eggs sinkers on my Bluefin "bait" set ups. A little more complicated but: Take a 10 oz egg sinker. Take a hacksaw and saw thru one side of the sinker. Soft lead, takes about 10 seconds. Use the core from any size rubber core sinker and you have a 10 oz rubber core that is ez on ez off.
I like the twist around the lead. Thanks for posting.
First time I’ve seen the rubber band thing thanks for showing me this 👍🏻 greetings from the Uk 🇬🇧😬
Thank you for stopping by Mark!
Good job.
Great info bro I got to this sometime
great tips tanks
Now i know how to tie my sinker, preety simple, thank you very helpful 👌
Hi Miguel. Thank you for watching. It’s pretty simple and very effective. Good luck out there.
excellent video. thanks for sharing this.
Thank you for watching Jeffrey!
Good demo.
Thank you for watching.
excellent idea Thank you
Nice video thanks man
I usually hook my baits through the bottom jaw and out the top of the nose cartilage. It keeps the mouth shut while the lead is yanking them down at full throttle, helps keep the bait a little fresher. If you ever pull your sardine up and it's mouth is stuck wide open that's from the deep drop.
I used these with the Team Catfish weight slides to make a th-cam.com/users/postUgkxdmsDj7fQXe77DC0l7P7ua8B3PiESUubM Carolina rig and they were perfect for the ponds I fish. I have also used them to make 3 way rigs and these work perfectly. Haven't had any issues with them snagging in rocks or in weeds yet.
Great video
Thank you!
I have heard about that new sinker rig where it like a drop shot rig for bass.the sinker is on the bottom hook is tied to the main line with the sinker about 24inchs below the hook.
This is awesome
Thanks Dave, very informative. Cheers 👍
Thank you for watching Brian!
Great advice, going to a one day trip next couple of days
Thank you for watching. Good luck on your trip.
Great tutorial!!
Thank you for watching!
I’m surprised nobody has come up with giant rubber core sinkers for this purpose
I've seen it up to 6 oz but 8-12 would be nice.
Nice backyard space. It will be good to have them plant veges specially when catching fish.. good food combinations..
Nice set up btw.
Ha! Thank you. Lots of grilled fish and grilled veggies at our house.
Dave, truly great educational video!
My PB bft was this exact setup. When everyone else was working the flat fall, I pinned a mackerel on a 4 oz. sinker rig, fly line.....boom!
It’s so darn effective. I always have a pouch of rubber bands in my tackle bag just for that reason.
@@DaveysWorldFishing Is the sinker rig set up effective for night time fishing too or is it more effective for use when there's light out? I wanted to try sinker rig on my last trip but when I asked one of the deckhands he didn't recommend it due to the advantage of the glow on the jigs when being dropped 2-300 ft.
@@slixxster5118 That’s a pretty interesting comment from the deck hand. I’ve been in some epic night time sinker rig action. It’s definitely not a daytime only rig. The glow jigs obviously work incredible, but I’ve also had some fantastic dark bites on the Katy Perry and Red/Gold.
That all said, I’d never hesitate to drop the sinker at night. If the big fish are keyed in on sardines and Chevy, they do t glow. Just my opinion though. Good luck out there.
@@DaveysWorldFishing I'll keep that in mind next time. Not to sound like a noob or anything but I keep hearing the term katy perry, care to elaborate?
@@slixxster5118 A jig, flat fall, coltsniper, etc, that is blue on one side and pink on the other.
Love the video !!!!
Glad you liked it!!
Hey.
After watching your video, I'm using this setup for the European catfish.
(Silirus Glanus)
Had my PB from 182 Cm on this system. Ok lost the weight from 3.5 €.
A very big thank you.thank
That is great to hear Andreas! Congratulations on the new PB! That thing is a monster. And thank you for watching.
Nice video. Thanks. I just got into okuma products. They are an amazing value. I want to get one of the rail rods for my makaira 16.
The rail rods are very nice. I spent a lot of time with the XXXH at the rail this year.
Thanks for stopping by and commenting. I appreciate the support.
The reason you decided to watch 2:36. You're welcome!
Perfect for holding my wood pile tarp down.
Thanks Dave, I was using this rig fishing at night deep in current and had trouble with line twists, where and would you put a swivel somewhere on the line? Thanks again.
I generally do not use a swivel. I always think the less knots and points of failure the better.
Great video … so basically we are just dropping down correct ? There is no casting with these correct
In general, a sinker rig is dropped straight down. The captain will tell you that the fish are down 180 feet, so you want to drop down as quickly as possible to that depth. No casting.
Great Video! Does the length of leader line matter?? What is the most effective length of the leader??
Hi there. First off, thank you for watching. As far as leader length goes, I like to with a length shorter than my rod. Something in the 4-5’ range or maybe a full arm length. I like to have no knots going through guides. That is just a personal preference and it works well for me. Some anglers like to go quite a bit longer. Not sure if there is a perfect length.
The way I see it, I am usually fishing the sinker rig at night on on deep drops so the fish are a little less line shy.
I hope that helps.
Going fishing tomorrow will let you know how it works.
Good luck Mike. Hope you whack a few.
Great video. I attach my weight exactly as you described in your video. I nose hook my sardine as well. Often however when I change my bait, I find my sardine has twisted completely above the weight. When lowering the weight and bait, should I be going slower rather than just letting the weight go?
First off, thank you for stopping by and watching.
I like to go somewhat slow on the drop. If you just free spool it on down you will see some twisting. If there is some current, or the boat is still on the slide you will see less twisting as the bait is out behind, but once the boat is equal to the current, I certainly slow down. Key is to present the liveliest bait possible to those hungry tuna. And slowing down certainly helps.
@@DaveysWorldFishing Thanks Dave. for your detailed reply. I am a land locked guy, who loves ocean fishing so I do not get out too much.
👍👍👍
Nice setup and thanks for the tips! I have a Mak20IISea paired with a PCH XXXH. Also have a Fathom 60NL2 and Fathom 40NLD2 loaded with 100lb and 80lb braid, respectively. The next heaviest rod I have is a Phenix Black Diamond 700XH (30-80). Do you prefer the sinker rig on your heaviest setup? And in my case, would you fish a 300-500g knife/flatfall jig on either of the Fathoms matched to the 700XH? The next heaviest rods down from that are a Daiwa Saltiga conventional travel (30-50) and then a Lamiglas (25-50 - not sure I'd want to use this as there's a short foregrip on it though). TIA!
Hi Jeremy
I generally use my heaviest rod for both my heavy knife jigs as well as my sinker rig set up. Since both don’t necessarily rely on “feel” I always figure the heavier the better. On the lighter, shorter foregrip rods, I’d probably use them on live bait set ups.
@@DaveysWorldFishing Thank you! Do you rig your knife and other jigs with a bite leader and change out all the hooks (e.g. with 10/0 assists + ST-66 5/0 trebles) as well? I've never rigged up a bite leader so was curious on that...
@@DaveysWorldFishing Is it best to go with #33 rubber bands or is #32 too short in your opinion?
@@jplee3 lol. Haven’t really compared them. Honestly I usually use whatever I have on hand
No topshot? Is best to go with or out, thank you sir
Hi Dewayne. Thank you for watching. Top shot is a personal preference. Some people swear by it, some don’t. I personally don’t use it. On the sinker rig you are generally fishing deep or at night, so line visibility isn’t much of an issue.
@Davey's World Fishing thanks for your help and information, I really like your site and help...
@@dewaynemeyer2404 Thank you for the kind words. I do appreciate the support.
Great tutorial. How fast do you recommend letting that 12oz torpedo and bait fish fall?
Great question. I will usually thumb my line down and let it fall pretty freely. I wouldn’t say there is an exact speed but pretty freely. Those schools of fish are moving pretty fast and you want to get it to them as quick as possible.
Thanks for the info. What type hooks/size do you typically like for your live baits? thanks
Hi J- it totally depends on the size of the bait and what the fish are keyed in on. A lot of folks go to the tank and grab the biggest, liveliest bait in the well, but if the fish are keyed in on small bait, this dies you no good.
I will usually have with me, from smallest to largest:
4, 2, 1, 1/0, 2/0, 3/0 and 5/0. The hooks you will use most will probably be the 1-2/0 sizes. Ask the deckhand what they recommend. They’ll know what bait you have and get you set up. They want you to catch fish.
@@DaveysWorldFishing I fish out of long island NY. We're using butterfish, spot, small snapper bluefish for tuna. Those hooks seem pretty small how big a fish will you land on that size hook ? I don't have a ton of experience
@@jfisher101 We’ll catch big fish on them. Right now, 200lb bluefin are not uncommon on those size hooks.
Out on the west coast we are using anchovy, sardine and mackerel for bait.
@@DaveysWorldFishing thats wild thanks!
How are you connecting your braid main line to Fluor leader on that sinker rig?
I will generally use the FG Knot in my heavy line set ups.
I basically use three connections, depending on my applications. Alberto, Uni-Uni or FG.
Your going the chaif up your line on the sinker. Better off using black tape doubled over as a quick release and 3 feet from the sinker is way to little we use at least 15 more like 25 out here on the East coast.
Interesting idea. Haven’t had any chafing issues, but I do like the tape idea.
Waste of time. Go to Home Deport or any hardware store and buy a packet of 1/4 x 1 inch cork or rubber stoppers. About a dollar for 10 of em. Loop the line in one eye, insert the plug, repeat on the other end. Holds sinker in place, will not damage your line. Doing it since the 70's.
Are there TH-cam videos explaining this technique? Would love to learn this
@@campinnfishin963 Not that Im aware, but maybe I can post one. Been doin' that way since the 1970's. Take a torpedo sinke with the "eyes" at each end. make a U shaped loop in your line and put it in one of the eyes. Insert the cork or stopper. Repeat on the other end. I have also used 10 oz eggs sinkers on my Bluefin "bait" set ups. A little more complicated but: Take a 10 oz egg sinker. Take a hacksaw and saw thru one side of the sinker. Soft lead, takes about 10 seconds. Use the core from any size rubber core sinker and you have a 10 oz rubber core that is ez on ez off.
nice! do you still end up losing the sinker doing it this way too?