I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for demonstrating that method of holding the thread vertically which puts it in the perfect position to go into that little fork. I have sat in front of my machine trying over and over to thread the bobbin correctly, tears of frustration pouring down my face. Twice I have had to take it in to my dealer because I had jammed the thread in the hook. I have looked at every video on TH-cam and none could help me despite being told "it's simple, do this then this". I have used your vertical lift method twice and both times it's worked perfectly 1st go. I would like to give you a rib cracking hug, all the way from New Zealand
Thank you so so very much for this amazing and instructional video….which I will pass along to all my friends…every Bernina Dealer should recommend this. I appreciate you!
Thank you for making this video. This is by far the BEST explanation of threading and loading the bobbin on the 800 Series. I have the B880+ and have mastered threading. It is helpful to know what is going on inside the machine, too.
THANK YOU. I have owned my 830 sewing and embroidery machine and I have had continuous problems with it. I have had it in to different Bernina Shops to be fixed. The last shop I had fix the machine suggested that I might want to buy the Brother XP2. I paid a lot of money for my Bernina and really did not want to spend a lot more money. Well, I had problems again. I searched the internet and came across your video and learned so much. I went back to the 830 and threaded like you suggested. It worked like a charm. I sewed with it and embroidered with it. I can not thank you enough and wish at least one of the shops would have explained threading like you did.
I just accuired an 830 LE. I keep getting thread break notification. But thread is not broken. I followed your instructions several times. Apparently, it was operator error. Thank you so much for shsing this. I followed others. But yours is the one that worked for me.
Thank you for sharing this! I had no clue that the automatic needles threading had a different function to complete the threading process. I never use it and do it by hand and have had so many issues with nesting etc and now I know why!! I can't thank you enough for making this video.
Thank you!! I never could figure out what I was supposed to see in the mirror until I watched this. Also I love how you explained the inner workings of the machine. It makes all the threading nuances make sense.. Best video on this I've seen, and I've watched a lot!
Oh my goodness, thank you so much for this video! The threading (top and bobbin) makes so much sense now, and you have made it so much easier as well. Thank you!
This is the best video on this subject that I have watched and I have watched a lot of them. I was having a terrible time with my bobbin on my new 880+ until I saw this video. It completely solved my problem! Thank you so much.
Thank you for this video. I just bought a Bernina 880+ This video has helped me so much on the threading of the machine. It not only showed me how to thread, but also showed me “the why” of threading the machine. Looking forward to more of your videos. Thanks so much.
This video is so cool..!!!! An incredible explanation . It's so thoroughly explained, following how this machine works is very easy. Good job by the narrator. 💯🥳💕
Everyone who owns an 800 should watch this!!! I always pull the thread straight up!!! You don't need to pull a long thread out. The key is to pull straight up!! It will go into the forked tongue 99.999% of the time. This is the best video ever!!
Thank you for this great video! I just got an 830 and have been struggling with threading both the bobbin and the head. I took the front cover off so I could see what you were talking about. The light bulb came on for me.
Hello Beth, my 880 is gone for repair, a little bit of thread caught in the bobbin. I am sure now, the cause is the threading. I thank you so much for this video, I will, in the future, always take care of my threading. Best regards.
Thank you so much for posting this video ! This is the best explanation I have watched on the threading of the 8 series, you need to be the official Bernina educator for their own video series and I hope they pay you very well.
Absolutely the best video on threading my Bernina. It is brilliant having the bobbin case out to show the thread guides and how the thread goes through. I really can't see with the little mirror what I am doing or what I am supposed to be looking at. I have been having so much trouble with nesting a thread breaking and now I realise that it a top threading problem because I am using a walking foot and hadn't pressed the hand threading icon. Thank you SEW much. Margaret from Australia.
Thank you so so much for this video. I have been struggling with my 880 since the day I brought it home. I was ready to pitch it out the window. Now I know what I've been doing wrong. It was very frustrating when sometimes it would work great and other times I would get the thread holder error message and could not figure out why?
This is excellent. My 830 suddenly started sewing very slowly, even though the slider is at full speed, and will not stop sewing, even if I take my foot off the foot control or try to press the start/stop button. Do you have ideas on what this could be? Thank you. You are obviously very knowledgeable on this machine, which is a beauty!
This is an unusual problem. Not something we often see in new machines. I would suggest taking it to your local dealer. Could be something simple or take a little research.
Hi Beth! I just watched your video and I have a question. I have been so frustrated with misthreading errors and faulty "thread break" messages when the thread is clearly not broken that I have fantasized about tossing my machine into the swimming pool. I spend more time threading than sewing some days! Your video showed me several very helpful things that I'm hoping will resolve my problem. Here is my question though... Bernina Jeff, who also produces instructional videos, teaches that the thread goes in FRONT of the metal guide on the top of the machine. You made a clear point of saying it must go behind the tab on the top to thread correctly. I'm eager to try that and see if it helps. But now I'm not sure which way is correct. Can you clarify any further?
Well, with all due respect to Jeff, that tension unit can be threaded from the front or the rear. For most people, laying the thread across the top of the machine and sliding into the groove from the rear is just easier. I have been teaching that method for 10 years and learned it from one of the most respected BERNINA educators, Jill Braley. I have one up on Jeff... I SEW and own a 8 series machine and do very extensive decorative stitch and thread work. So, it gets threaded 30 to 50 times every time I use it, with many weights of thread. I rarely have issues with my machine, but then again, I service about 2 of these machines a week. The 8 series machine is extremely robust machines that suffer from poor dealer support. This is not BERNINAs fault, but, as I hate to say this, are sold by dealers whose level of support is lacking. My store had adopted many a 8 series owner because of this issue. Before you rethread the machine because it is telling you the thread might be broken, there might be too much thread in the top of the machine. Grab the thread on the right side of the machine, just as it enters the machine, and pull it to the right. About 3 inches of thread might exit the machine at which point, the machine will sew fine. I would also suggest your supporting dealer look for excess thread in the first sensor, in the tension unit and for a broken check spring.
Thank you so much id given up on my 880 had bobbin sensor issues and the red green start light quit working had to send it to Bernini, and ordered a 790 + my 880 still hasn't been turned on from 2 years ago, I'm afraid of it!!! ( love 790 ) this video taught me so much I'm going to get my 880 out and use it!!! What do you charge for guide classes for a machine not purchased from you?
The Red/Green Stop/Start button circuit board is difficult to replace and takes practice. In fact, the cable from that board was easy to snap off during replacement and after the installation was complete, of course, the board would not work! The dealer would have to order a second one and go through the entire install again. Bernina did blame the dealer for breaking the cable off. Only to come back about a year later and state there was a bad batch of these boards with weak connections. Most dealers don't want to mess with replacing this board until it really becomes necessary to replace. I have replaced many of them and am very comfortable with this repair. As far as classes... We offer a ton of classes with every Bernina we sell and sell them as a package. We truly believe you are making an investment and with that investment, you must learn to use it. We do not teach you how to sew, we teach you how to master the machine. We exceed the Bernina dealer recommendation for classes. You will need to contact us directly for our current class price list.
@@bethscreative3791 thank you, this fall I'll be thinking about classes, I've taken them once but would love to learn more! Time to unpack it and start using again!!!
Thanks it was very helpful. I have a different issue and my e you can give me some advice. When I open the bobbin case ‘door’ the bobbin case does not swing out. I can get it out manually. After threading it doesn’t want to swing back either.
I had that same issue. I took it to a dealer and she said the little motor that swings it out had gone bad. She ordered a new motor, installed it, and problem solved!
Hi, I’m wondering if u have advice what to do because my bobbin case rotates few times after it pops the door open following loading of the bobbin. I can trick it once I shut my bernina 820 down. What is wrong?
You need to have the door sensor replaced. The bobbin case should roll forward when the door is open and do the same when the door is closed. The only time the bobbin will or might spin is if the hand wheel was rotated (putting the bobbin case in the incorrect position), or if the sensor is bad. If the sensor is bad, the bobbin case will rotate and rotate as it tries to locate its rest position. You might be able to “trick” it a few time, but you are not really tricking it. Once it starts to do the spinning thing, get on the phone to your dealer and make an appointment to get it replaced. It’s not going to go away, or get better, or can you milk the situation. We always have sensors in stock and replace them quickly. It only takes about 15 minutes and is a pretty simple repair. I will also add, I do not charge my 820/830/880 customers a labor charge and they only pay the COST of the part (if out of warranty). Those are expensive machine. They are true wonders and it is my act of appreciation to my loyal customers.
You might have a build up of thread in the first sensor. OR if you push the needle threader button and it doesn't work, there might be an issue with the threader unit OR the circuit board that controls those 6 buttons needs replaced. This is something the dealer will need to look at. If you can not get the machine to recognize you have thread in your machine, and the take-up lever has not dropped into position, there is no way to get the machine threaded correctly. I have never had this issue. The machine is pretty reliable.
This threading stuff is too much complicated for a machine of this price and caliber. My Brother Innovis 2500D has a top loading bobbin and produce the same quality of stitch as this Bernina, and was one fifth the price, and is less prone to thread failures like the Bernina 800-series. That is why I am selling it and getting the new Viking Epic 3.
That machine isn't for everyone. Sorry you had a bad experience. Purchased from a good supporting dealer can make all the difference. Too bad you didn't look at the Bernina 790pro. Bernina dealerships are all privately owned by mostly passionate people. Almost all Vikings in Ohio are sold in Joann fabrics. Joann fabrics is currently working to prevent having to file for bankruptcy. Dealer support is often overlooked because, what other product need or highly benefits from after the sale support? Bicycles and Sewing machines! Walmart, on-line sales, cash and carry stores will not give you priceless, valuable advice. If you bring the machine to me, the first thing I will ask you is: Where did you buy the machine? I have THOUSANDS of customers who keep me and my staff hopping daily with questions and advice. They paid for my support and machine expertise. And we deliver! That might sound cruel, but I need to make a living too and machine sales, servicing and teaching classes on our machines helps pay my personal mortgage. Helping people with other brands, does not. Don't take me wrong, we will be very nice to you, apologize and sympathize with your issue, and might even tell you that the machine is threaded incorrectly or has a problem. But my classes are for Bernina owners only, we only carry Bernina supplies and I only service Bernina sewing machines. We will happily send you to the local dealer, if there is one, or suggest one in another city.
You can't compare your Brother machine to à Bernina, I had other brands but nothing like à Bernina. It is à wonderful brand it does à wonderful job, it is a True Rolls Royce.
@@chantalida53 Yes, it is like a 1930s Rolls Royce, and FYI Yes I can compare them, and I did coz I have both, the B830 and the Brother 2500D that is an older model than the Bernina, and I can say that both Upper and Bobbin threading of the 8XX series is the CLUMSIEST EVER especially for Embroidery, while the Brother is way more easier to load, same robustness and smoother, and use very simple bobbins, not the special ones for the Bernina. And now Bernina has given me the reason and proof of that is that the new Bernina B990 doesn't use that upper thread system but a new one similar to the Brother, and the Bobbin is now separate and different system where you don't have to check the bobbin thread with a mirror, that by the way, is not included in the B990 as it was in my B830. And my B830 has about 2.5 million embroidery stitches, while the Brother has almost 6 million embroidery stitches, so Yes, I can compare and did.
I am so glad this video has helped so many people with the 830/820/880. Regardless of what your experience is with this machine, it is a truly robust product and I rarely have hard core issues with this machine. I do a lot of decorative stitching, use many thickness of threads, thread the machine over and over and it stitches like a dream. Watch for the worn silver sensor on the top of the bobbins, make sure the bobbin is threaded correctly by taking a quick peek with your mirror and when in doubt, rethread the top of the machine (take the decorative cover off the front and make sure the take-up lever is threaded). The only issue I have found with this machine is the sensor for the bobbin case door. Once the bobbin starts to spin, get that sensor replaced. I have never seen one fail because it has lint in it. And I do not know why it seems to be a chronic issue. I replace this circuit board free for my purchasing customer as a customer service.
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Excellent - Thank YOU! I recommend this 'threading How To' video to ALL my Bernina 820/830 friends...it's THE Best ;-)
I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for demonstrating that method of holding the thread vertically which puts it in the perfect position to go into that little fork. I have sat in front of my machine trying over and over to thread the bobbin correctly, tears of frustration pouring down my face. Twice I have had to take it in to my dealer because I had jammed the thread in the hook. I have looked at every video on TH-cam and none could help me despite being told "it's simple, do this then this". I have used your vertical lift method twice and both times it's worked perfectly 1st go. I would like to give you a rib cracking hug, all the way from New Zealand
Thank you so so very much for this amazing and instructional video….which I will pass along to all my friends…every Bernina Dealer should recommend this. I appreciate you!
Thank you for making this video. This is by far the BEST explanation of threading and loading the bobbin on the 800 Series. I have the B880+ and have mastered threading. It is helpful to know what is going on inside the machine, too.
I am so delighted this video has been such a big help to many!
THANK YOU. I have owned my 830 sewing and embroidery machine and I have had continuous problems with it. I have had it in to different Bernina Shops to be fixed. The last shop I had fix the machine suggested that I might want to buy the Brother XP2. I paid a lot of money for my Bernina and really did not want to spend a lot more money. Well, I had problems again. I searched the internet and came across your video and learned so much. I went back to the 830 and threaded like you suggested. It worked like a charm. I sewed with it and embroidered with it. I can not thank you enough and wish at least one of the shops would have explained threading like you did.
I just accuired an 830 LE. I keep getting thread break notification. But thread is not broken. I followed your instructions several times. Apparently, it was operator error. Thank you so much for shsing this. I followed others. But yours is the one that worked for me.
This video was very informative and I thank you it answered a lot of questions!!
Thank you for sharing this! I had no clue that the automatic needles threading had a different function to complete the threading process. I never use it and do it by hand and have had so many issues with nesting etc and now I know why!! I can't thank you enough for making this video.
Best demo ever!!! and I have watched sooo many and was still confused. Now I understand 😅 what a relief
Thank you!! I never could figure out what I was supposed to see in the mirror until I watched this. Also I love how you explained the inner workings of the machine. It makes all the threading nuances make sense.. Best video on this I've seen, and I've watched a lot!
Oh my goodness, thank you so much for this video! The threading (top and bobbin) makes so much sense now, and you have made it so much easier as well. Thank you!
This is the best video on this subject that I have watched and I have watched a lot of them. I was having a terrible time with my bobbin on my new 880+ until I saw this video. It completely solved my problem! Thank you so much.
I am so thankful for this excellent video. Your presentation covers the areas I’ve been having issues. Thank you!
Thank you for this video. I just bought a Bernina 880+ This video has helped me so much on the threading of the machine. It not only showed me how to thread, but also showed me “the why” of threading the machine. Looking forward to more of your videos. Thanks so much.
This video is so cool..!!!! An incredible explanation . It's so thoroughly explained, following how this machine works is very easy. Good job by the narrator. 💯🥳💕
This is one of the best visiuals I have ever seen and for 27 yrs Iwas a Bernina tech now retired but This is good info
Everyone who owns an 800 should watch this!!! I always pull the thread straight up!!! You don't need to pull a long thread out. The key is to pull straight up!! It will go into the forked tongue 99.999% of the time. This is the best video ever!!
Thank you for this great video! I just got an 830 and have been struggling with threading both the bobbin and the head. I took the front cover off so I could see what you were talking about. The light bulb came on for me.
Hello Beth, my 880 is gone for repair, a little bit of thread caught in the bobbin. I am sure now, the cause is the threading. I thank you so much for this video, I will, in the future, always take care of my threading. Best regards.
Thank you so much for posting this video ! This is the best explanation I have watched on the threading of the 8 series, you need to be the official Bernina educator for their own video series and I hope they pay you very well.
Absolutely the best video on threading my Bernina. It is brilliant having the bobbin case out to show the thread guides and how the thread goes through. I really can't see with the little mirror what I am doing or what I am supposed to be looking at. I have been having so much trouble with nesting a thread breaking and now I realise that it a top threading problem because I am using a walking foot and hadn't pressed the hand threading icon. Thank you SEW much. Margaret from Australia.
Ohh my goodness! Thank you so much! I have an 880 plus & you have answered some of my questions! Subscribed!
Thank you so so much for this video. I have been struggling with my 880 since the day I brought it home. I was ready to pitch it out the window. Now I know what I've been doing wrong. It was very frustrating when sometimes it would work great and other times I would get the thread holder error message and could not figure out why?
Brilliant vlog - so clear
Very nicely done. Thank you!
This is excellent. My 830 suddenly started sewing very slowly, even though the slider is at full speed, and will not stop sewing, even if I take my foot off the foot control or try to press the start/stop button. Do you have ideas on what this could be? Thank you. You are obviously very knowledgeable on this machine, which is a beauty!
This is an unusual problem. Not something we often see in new machines. I would suggest taking it to your local dealer. Could be something simple or take a little research.
Hi Beth! I just watched your video and I have a question. I have been so frustrated with misthreading errors and faulty "thread break" messages when the thread is clearly not broken that I have fantasized about tossing my machine into the swimming pool. I spend more time threading than sewing some days! Your video showed me several very helpful things that I'm hoping will resolve my problem. Here is my question though... Bernina Jeff, who also produces instructional videos, teaches that the thread goes in FRONT of the metal guide on the top of the machine. You made a clear point of saying it must go behind the tab on the top to thread correctly. I'm eager to try that and see if it helps. But now I'm not sure which way is correct. Can you clarify any further?
Well, with all due respect to Jeff, that tension unit can be threaded from the front or the rear. For most people, laying the thread across the top of the machine and sliding into the groove from the rear is just easier. I have been teaching that method for 10 years and learned it from one of the most respected BERNINA educators, Jill Braley.
I have one up on Jeff... I SEW and own a 8 series machine and do very extensive decorative stitch and thread work. So, it gets threaded 30 to 50 times every time I use it, with many weights of thread. I rarely have issues with my machine, but then again, I service about 2 of these machines a week. The 8 series machine is extremely robust machines that suffer from poor dealer support. This is not BERNINAs fault, but, as I hate to say this, are sold by dealers whose level of support is lacking. My store had adopted many a 8 series owner because of this issue.
Before you rethread the machine because it is telling you the thread might be broken, there might be too much thread in the top of the machine. Grab the thread on the right side of the machine, just as it enters the machine, and pull it to the right. About 3 inches of thread might exit the machine at which point, the machine will sew fine.
I would also suggest your supporting dealer look for excess thread in the first sensor, in the tension unit and for a broken check spring.
Great video! Very informative
Thank you so much id given up on my 880 had bobbin sensor issues and the red green start light quit working had to send it to Bernini, and ordered a 790 + my 880 still hasn't been turned on from 2 years ago, I'm afraid of it!!! ( love 790 ) this video taught me so much I'm going to get my 880 out and use it!!! What do you charge for guide classes for a machine not purchased from you?
The Red/Green Stop/Start button circuit board is difficult to replace and takes practice. In fact, the cable from that board was easy to snap off during replacement and after the installation was complete, of course, the board would not work! The dealer would have to order a second one and go through the entire install again. Bernina did blame the dealer for breaking the cable off. Only to come back about a year later and state there was a bad batch of these boards with weak connections. Most dealers don't want to mess with replacing this board until it really becomes necessary to replace. I have replaced many of them and am very comfortable with this repair. As far as classes... We offer a ton of classes with every Bernina we sell and sell them as a package. We truly believe you are making an investment and with that investment, you must learn to use it. We do not teach you how to sew, we teach you how to master the machine. We exceed the Bernina dealer recommendation for classes. You will need to contact us directly for our current class price list.
@@bethscreative3791 thank you, this fall I'll be thinking about classes, I've taken them once but would love to learn more! Time to unpack it and start using again!!!
Thank you so much!
How do you load the bobbin? I just inherited this machine.
Thanks it was very helpful. I have a different issue and my e you can give me some advice. When I open the bobbin case ‘door’ the bobbin case does not swing out. I can get it out manually. After threading it doesn’t want to swing back either.
I had that same issue. I took it to a dealer and she said the little motor that swings it out had gone bad. She ordered a new motor, installed it, and problem solved!
Good video for regular bobbin threading for sewing now show how to thread for embroidery.
Hi, I’m wondering if u have advice what to do because my bobbin case rotates few times after it pops the door open following loading of the bobbin. I can trick it once I shut my bernina 820 down. What is wrong?
You need to have the door sensor replaced. The bobbin case should roll forward when the door is open and do the same when the door is closed. The only time the bobbin will or might spin is if the hand wheel was rotated (putting the bobbin case in the incorrect position), or if the sensor is bad. If the sensor is bad, the bobbin case will rotate and rotate as it tries to locate its rest position. You might be able to “trick” it a few time, but you are not really tricking it. Once it starts to do the spinning thing, get on the phone to your dealer and make an appointment to get it replaced. It’s not going to go away, or get better, or can you milk the situation.
We always have sensors in stock and replace them quickly. It only takes about 15 minutes and is a pretty simple repair. I will also add, I do not charge my 820/830/880 customers a labor charge and they only pay the COST of the part (if out of warranty). Those are expensive machine. They are true wonders and it is my act of appreciation to my loyal customers.
The 880:designers are nuts to do it this way To look upside down with a dental mirror to thread your machine. Crazy people to dream this one up.
How do I contact you?
What to do when the auto threader does not respond?
You might have a build up of thread in the first sensor. OR if you push the needle threader button and it doesn't work, there might be an issue with the threader unit OR the circuit board that controls those 6 buttons needs replaced. This is something the dealer will need to look at. If you can not get the machine to recognize you have thread in your machine, and the take-up lever has not dropped into position, there is no way to get the machine threaded correctly. I have never had this issue. The machine is pretty reliable.
Thank you. I will have to take my machine to the dealer
This threading stuff is too much complicated for a machine of this price and caliber. My Brother Innovis 2500D has a top loading bobbin and produce the same quality of stitch as this Bernina, and was one fifth the price, and is less prone to thread failures like the Bernina 800-series. That is why I am selling it and getting the new Viking Epic 3.
That machine isn't for everyone. Sorry you had a bad experience. Purchased from a good supporting dealer can make all the difference. Too bad you didn't look at the Bernina 790pro.
Bernina dealerships are all privately owned by mostly passionate people. Almost all Vikings in Ohio are sold in Joann fabrics. Joann fabrics is currently working to prevent having to file for bankruptcy. Dealer support is often overlooked because, what other product need or highly benefits from after the sale support? Bicycles and Sewing machines! Walmart, on-line sales, cash and carry stores will not give you priceless, valuable advice. If you bring the machine to me, the first thing I will ask you is: Where did you buy the machine? I have THOUSANDS of customers who keep me and my staff hopping daily with questions and advice. They paid for my support and machine expertise. And we deliver! That might sound cruel, but I need to make a living too and machine sales, servicing and teaching classes on our machines helps pay my personal mortgage. Helping people with other brands, does not.
Don't take me wrong, we will be very nice to you, apologize and sympathize with your issue, and might even tell you that the machine is threaded incorrectly or has a problem. But my classes are for Bernina owners only, we only carry Bernina supplies and I only service Bernina sewing machines. We will happily send you to the local dealer, if there is one, or suggest one in another city.
You can't compare your Brother machine to à Bernina, I had other brands but nothing like à Bernina. It is à wonderful brand it does à wonderful job, it is a True Rolls Royce.
@@chantalida53 Yes, it is like a 1930s Rolls Royce, and FYI Yes I can compare them, and I did coz I have both, the B830 and the Brother 2500D that is an older model than the Bernina, and I can say that both Upper and Bobbin threading of the 8XX series is the CLUMSIEST EVER especially for Embroidery, while the Brother is way more easier to load, same robustness and smoother, and use very simple bobbins, not the special ones for the Bernina. And now Bernina has given me the reason and proof of that is that the new Bernina B990 doesn't use that upper thread system but a new one similar to the Brother, and the Bobbin is now separate and different system where you don't have to check the bobbin thread with a mirror, that by the way, is not included in the B990 as it was in my B830. And my B830 has about 2.5 million embroidery stitches, while the Brother has almost 6 million embroidery stitches, so Yes, I can compare and did.
Thanks so much. ❤
I am so glad this video has helped so many people with the 830/820/880. Regardless of what your experience is with this machine, it is a truly robust product and I rarely have hard core issues with this machine. I do a lot of decorative stitching, use many thickness of threads, thread the machine over and over and it stitches like a dream.
Watch for the worn silver sensor on the top of the bobbins, make sure the bobbin is threaded correctly by taking a quick peek with your mirror and when in doubt, rethread the top of the machine (take the decorative cover off the front and make sure the take-up lever is threaded).
The only issue I have found with this machine is the sensor for the bobbin case door. Once the bobbin starts to spin, get that sensor replaced. I have never seen one fail because it has lint in it. And I do not know why it seems to be a chronic issue. I replace this circuit board free for my purchasing customer as a customer service.