I want to thank you for this video. I bought one of these for about 30.00 and the laser wouldn't function. With your video it made it easier to do a repair. KHS400B is the laser that mine has. Being able to rehab this old thing myself is a delight.
Fantastic video! Probably the best explained and most thorough one I have seen. I have cleaned the top laser previously and that solved the issue but I actually had no idea there was a second one below I could reach. Going to try this cleaning first on my current laser to see if that fixes the issue before buying a new one. Thanks for such a well-made video!
1:10 Aside from the built-in infrared sensor, the SCPH-50001 model (I have the exact same console as you do) also added support for playback of DVD-R/DVD+R/DVD-RW/DVD+RW discs, 480p output for the DVD Player application, and upgraded PlayStation Driver software version 1.11 (PS1 backwards compatibility). Earlier models had version 1.10 and below.
Thank you sir for your excellent video. I have an SCPH-30001 model (wow this month this machine turns 20 years old time flies) and was unable to play any games/read any discs. The repair costs exceeded its value so it was unreasonable to take to a repair shop. With your video I was able to replace the laser and it functions the way it did fresh out of the blue box. May I add for those with this model PS2, you’ll need a Torx T4, PH 1 and PH 000 bit to remove the screws safely. Thanks again for your help!!
Just bought a 50001 PS2 from eBay that supposedly only has a stuck drive tray. It's going to replace my 39001 from 2001, that doesn't recognize any official multitaps for some reason. Even a brand new one. The plan is to break it all the way down and completely clean and restore it. Your video gave me info on some differences between the two models. Thank you!
Usually "repair people" tend to say they can't fix it because of the age, but it's because they don't make much money of off old consoles, that's what the cashier told me after his boss said they couldn't fix my PS3s HDMI port
Nicely done. It’s been years since I’ve opened it, but I need to do this to mine. I still have my original 30001-R, which barely reads both types even after cleaning, so I’ll need to open her up to see which laser I need. IIRC, aside from the single height adjustment dial, the power/eject buttons are also attached to the top lid. You have to be careful removing it so that you can then remove the assembly from the top lid without damaging the ribbon cable. Thanks to this, you’ve inspired me to finally do it! 🙂
To make it easier for the qtip to get to the laser underneath the lens, I tear off some of the qtip cotton and then put ipa on the qtip to mat it down a little and walla, fits a lot easier under there.
I've another problem, my PS2 can read CD with audio / music, DvD with movies but not CD with games or DVD with games. Should i replace the laser or the problem is something else? (Sorry my bad english) PS: I don't get "Disc error", it just keeps loading.
Hi. I recently altered the voltage on mine and it now reads the PS2 demo disc. I get the "insert Playstation 2 Format disk" error on all other discs. I replaced the laser twice but the replacement lasers do not read anything at all, even the demo disc just spins and it doesn't read it. I've removed the anti-static solder and tweaked the resistance on the new ones to be around 1100 Ohms but nothing. What do you think is the issue? Thanks!
hello from Russia :) David your video is absolute brilliant. i have this machine (PS2) from my childhood (i have a really good PC for gaming and work), but i love PS2 very much. such form of the nostalgia about "old good days & old good games" you know.. and now i found that my PS2 have lost its power (don't read any DVD).. i'm trying to figure out - what is really happened, but without success.. and only with the help of Your great video all obscures are gone :) thank You very much / your video is the very particular and detalized. it's real education masterpiece. and You have a great ability to teach other people. It's really rare ability in our world :) and now i think that american people isn't such arrogants as it seems on TV :) have a good day, you are really a great Man
I bought a used SCPH-50001 Fat PS2 on Ebay. It still reads DVDs and CDs but when playing PS1 CD games, the background music keeps on skipping although the discs has some mild scratches but when I play PS1 CDs on my SCPH-77001 Slim PS2, I do not encounter this problem. I have recently bought 3 KHS-400C laser modules just in case. I will wait for it to arrive then get my PS2 examined and laser replaced.
@@pt_2003 It works great now. I did not do the procedure myself. I took it to a game console shop and had the lens replacement done there. My PS2 now boots up fast and I no longer experience any skipping on my PS1 CDs.
Hey. I dont know if you see this but i have a similar issue. My ps2 just spits the tray out all the time and doesnt spin a disc or light up the laser. Tryed swapping it but didnt help.
I have a first Generation PS2 Fat, the 30000 series. I have the single sdjusting knob, and i've played with it a bit, and I can either get Silver DVD games to work, OR CD's and blue disks to work. Is the KHS400C laser the same part number for the 300000 and the 50000 series PS2? Where did you buy yours? Thanks!
Mine is having this problem, but bought it off a person who said it was "cracked" or "jailbroken" and would play pirated games. All I have to do for it to read normal games is reset or sometimes hold the reset button to turn off while the game is in, then turn back on and it overrides the bit that would usually not read the disc.
For my 50001 model of the PS2, I had the opposite problem. The DVD ps2 games and normal DVDs play just fine but the ps1 and cd games don’t work. Usually it’s vise-versa
Thanks for this video. Got a replacement laser, went in and changed it. Closed it all up and worked first time. So easy. Didn't bother trouble shooting or adjusting anything. Knew changing the laser would fix it. Even got a new version (C). Other youtubers seem to think you have to flash the firmware but you don't. All working very well!!
11:03: I cleaned the top lense of my 2004 fat PS2 and it did fix the problem! No PS1 disc could be read, making awful noises, and now it reads everything perfectly. Unbelievable :).
Hi! I just replaced the old laser, it was done by a technician. When I tried the machine back at home, I still have to try many times for the console to actually read the discs. Do you think it might be a matter of adjusting the height of the reader/structure? It's a 30001R model, by the way.
Anyone has a problem with their ps2 where it reads the disc just fine but after the playstation 2 screen pops up nothing happens and the ps2 just makes weird noises?
One ebaywr says..."You MUST removed the anti-static solder joint before installation. Otherwise the laser will not activate." Any ideas what this means? Didn't see tou do anything?
That is correct. On some lasers, there is a solder bridge to ground to prevent electrostatic damage. You must de-solder that bridge before installing. The laser I ordered did not come with the solder bridge. If you get one that way, it should be apparent on inspection.
Hi, my problem with ps2 is, when I put a disc on it, it goes directly at home screen(browser and system configuration). It behaves like nothing is inside the disc tray. But after some restarts, the disc will work fine. What is the problem here?
Did the laser replacement fine on my other consoles, but my issue is that I have one system that needed a new ribbon cable AND a new laser, so I put the ribbon in what seemed to be correctly, but I’m having a major problem with clearance and tension on the cable. I’m beyond confused with that part
Ok I need some help. My problem right now is that my 50001 PS2 will not play DVD based discs much like the one in the video. HOWEVER, i'm not sure if the laser is dead or not. Let me explain why: Prior to last night, my PS2 played all discs just fine. PS1, Blue PS2 (CD), and Yellow PS2 (DVD) all worked. I took my PS2 apart because I was trying to fix an issue where Blue PS2 discs sounded like they were being scratched when the drive was spinning. Before I put the disc drive back together, I made sure all the disc types worked and they still were. Then I completely reassembled the console and suddenly Yellow PS2 discs no longer would load. It would give me the disc read error. I tried everything to get it working. Adjusting the height on the white cogs, adjusting the height on the black screw on the rail, and even the potentiometer ohms for the DVD laser. Nothing I did worked at all and I ended up putting the potentiometer back where it was when I started which was 1195 ohms. And for the record, the laser does light up red when trying to read a DVD. Is it possible I damaged the laser or ribbon cable when putting the drive back together? I'm at a loss for what's wrong with it. I did end up buying a new laser hoping it will fix it but I find it hard to believe that I broke the DVD laser just by taking the drive apart and.putting it back together.
@@curtis8516 Done it. After installing the new laser, the discs will now not spin at all. At least my original laser would play PS1 games. I think this "new" laser is faulty. Edit: turns out there is a blob of solder on the new laser board that must be removed, otherwise the disc will be prevented from spinning.
Did you desolder the blob? Some models such as the 30003 R developed a fault where it would take up to 1 minute for the disc to spin and load up. Try that too@@VanguardRaven
Hi, I hope you're still answering. Here is the problem. Bought a new 400C laser. I put it in and adjusted the little screw of the laser and the white wheel (my ps2 has only one) to be in balance. But the laser didn't work. Just focusing. After adjustments of the wheel and the little screw and some adjustments of the potentiometer (DVD between 1000 and 1900ohms. now around 1200Ohms) I finally found a position of the white wheel which worked. But not every time. Sometimes I have to reset two to three times until it's reading. But it almost never works after changing the game. After some restarts it does. I don't now why.
My 3000 series can read dvds, but for some reason it takes a a couple of minutes for the laser to turn on and start reading the disc. I took mine apart and watched it and the disc will spin but you don't see the laser, then the disc will stop. After about a minute to 2 you can see the laser turn on and then the disc will start spinning again and it works fine after that. For Cds though the laser turns on right away.
Well, I thought I'd try. I have a PS2 TEST/Debugger unit that is a little different inside than this fat, and it spins and just stays in the browser. Does not notice discs at all. I cleaned it and nothing. Maybe a laser replacement is in order.
I took my PS2 apart and cleaned everything, i started it and it started working. I put it all back together, and it wouldn't read the disc or memory card again. I took it apart and it worked. When i put it together, it doesn't read it again. I never had issues with it, i took it out after about 5 yrs and now it's giving me these problems. What do you think is causing the problem?
I changed my laser but it's still making clicking sounds and it wont spin up. It can still play blue discs but not dvds. Can anyone help me? I've tried everything.
After replacing the laser the disk doesn't spin at all. I put the original laser back and everything works just fine ( a part the it doesn't read DVDs as always)... what can it be? I don't get it
Yes. One of the points my be soldered to ground (for protection of static damage) that will have to be unsoldered. I do not know if all the lasers come that was, but mine did. I can not remember from memory exactly which solder bridge it is.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Gotcha, so I got a new laser after watching this, desoldered the anti-static protection and put the thing in, but for some reason it's not loading games at all. Same issue as before, disc spins up but just stops at some point. Any idea why that might be happening? Pretty bummed out it wasn't the solution I needed. I didn't adjust the potentiometer or anything, just kept whatever was stock.
I purchased the laser on eBay from a source in China. If you search PS2 laser or KHS400C on eBay, you will find many vendors. It appears that the KHS400B and KHS400C are interchangeable, but the KHS400C is supposed to be more reliable.
@obbygiftI have replaced lasers several times on both PS2 and PS3 machines. The "cheap Chinese" replacements are identical to the lasers that failed. An imitated part usually has some differences from the original. These lasers are absolutely identical in every way. I am pretty sure it is the same part, made by the same companies. Of all the lasers that I have replaced, none has failed so far. I have purchased several used PS2 machines. I have paid between $25 and $40 for these old machines. The $40 machine came with controllers an a bunch of good games. If the replacement laser is costing $30-$50, then it is more than the whole machine, and therefor not worth it. I have been very satisfied with the Chinese lasers price/performance.
@obbygift what is your problem man?? What are you on about?? This man does not want to have a a pissing contest with you. Go to a Joe Rogan video if you want to argue
@obbygift you're were going to get roped off you keep talking like that. I will drag your ass hear this is right up your alley listen to this listen to every word what Imma do to youth-cam.com/video/nE0TuvCbe4E/w-d-xo.html
Good video, keep up good work (Y)!!!I was wondering if all lasers for PS2 FAT systems are same, or it depends on model?I have PS2 FAT SCPH 39004 and if I buy regular laser for FAT systems, will it work?Please respond.
I have just replaced a laser but... The old one would read CDs and no DVDs, while the new one reads DVDs but won't read CDs. Is it possible that I did something wrong? (I did it for the first time. I did have some issues to remove the anti static solder point, nearly f@#£ed up the new laser but managed to fix it with the help of needle and plastic foil... Don't ask...). Is it possible that the laser was defective out of the box?
Super useful video i only had to clean my laser lense to get my ps1 games to read again, but took out the laser of another PS2 that i just use as a stand for my screen, to use as spare part next time it has issues.
The problem you describe is consistent with a failing laser. It would be the most likely problem. As the video shows, the laser is not expensive and it is easy to replace. I would recommend starting there.
I got the new laser a while ago and it's much better now. It still has some issues with really long loading times when I first put in a disc and some times a read error that eventually fixes itself. It might be that the laser is for the 50,001 and I have the 30,001.@@c.davidgraves4848
I had a PS2 Test console that doesn't play DVD, but it's regional free, meaning you can play Japanese imported games. I wouldn't recommend playing DVD on consoles because it will affect your lens.
Technically correct. The Dreamcast is considered 6th gen. I did not think about it. It was a flop and left little impact. Other than TH-cam, I have never actually seen one. I wasn't writing an academic paper. The brief history was just an intro to a video about replacing the PS2 laser.
11:48 PLEASEEEE HEALP I DID THIS MISTAKE BY NOT KNOWING PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME TO PUT THAT BACK AS IT WAS....PLEASE....NOW MY DISC DOESNT WANT TO SPIN....
I just got a PS2 for cheap, and I'm not sure what is wrong with it. It came with one game, FIFA 2004, and it works without a single problem, it reads it every time. But yeah, that seems like it's the only game that works. I tried running some random movie DVD, and it does not read it. I also tried to run PS1 games on CD, and nothing. It just gives me CD read error. I guess that I will try to clean it, since it looks really dirty inside when DVD tray is opened. If that does not work I guess that I will replace a laser then. But only strange thing here is that it runs that one game that came with it without a problem.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Yeah. I just opened it up and it was really dusty inside. I cleaned DVD tray area, along with fan and everything else. And that fixed it. It also reads PS1 CD's now without any issues. Only bad thing is that it's not modded, so it only runs original DVD's and games.
I have one that just keeps saying loading disc but wont ever load. I took it apart and when first putting a disc in the laser will only come on for a second that I can see, looks like it goes off, then makes a clicking sound while attempting to read a disc. Will not read cd or dvd
There are 2 lasers. The DVD laser is red and visible to the eye. The CD laser is infrared and not visible. You should be able to see the CD laser with your cell phone or digital camera, since a CCD device is sensitive to 850 nanometers. The lasers wear out over time. You might detect a laser, but it might not be strong enough to do the job.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Ive was trying to get it to read music cd and a dvd and it just did the same thing. I can only see the red laser for a second shine through the dvd when the tray closes. Kinda bums me out, I was really wanting to play grand turismo 4 again.
Thank you very much for this detailed instruction for the lens replacement! I just ordert a pair of these laser modules for my SCPH-50004, and i had to order the KHS400C for best compatibility. just for the others who would like to try it your self, please check the part number. Keep it up! ;)
Does anyone have a solution for when the disc won't spin? I replaced my laser and desoldered the anti-static point, but the disc will only twitch once I put it in. The laser only attempts to read the disc for a brief second and stops. I've tried this on both CD and DVD games.
The problem is in your motor the motor that makes the disk spin remove the ribbon cable and check the cable it self iam sure 100% its the ribbon cable one of its teeth might be bend
Hello, great video, thanks a lot. My ps2 fat reads CDs but I get the red screen "insert ps or ps2 format" when I read DVDs. Did you have this issue or disc error message?
nice video, anyone have advice for a ps2 that only reads cd and dvd? i dont know what the problem is because the larger data ps2 games should be dvd-roms, the same as dvds. it runs dvds and the cd-roms but not the dvd-roms. are they different or is it something else?
Cheers for this, my treasured Japanese scph-10000 has been running hard for 18 years without a hiccup but the laser is getting slow to read both dvd and cd and really struggles reading ps1 games, tried to clean it but still no different, not bothering with laser adjustment I'll just buy a laser, good to know the Chinese eBay ones work OK thanks Update: boought a khs-400c laser worked a treat straight out the box, reads all discs faster than when I bought it...excellent.
I’ll be ordering one this week, literally the exact same mine is doing. Was working well and after a month hiatus it crapped out. Tried cleaning and adjusting to no avail.
Nice video I just fixed two PS2s a SCHP 50001/N and a SCHP 30001 they use different LASERS the part numbers are on them although they work the same. I bought new metal LASER arms to replace the plastic ones. You have to make a couple of cardboard or plastic shim washers to use the Torx screw that was used with the plastic LASER arm because the plastic LASER arm is thicker and the old Torx screw, which is a crvtv5 type torx bit will be too long and will bind on the LASER rod I suggest using an ice pick and the card board the new LASER head comes in to make your own shim washers. You may have to bend the LASER arm down to make good contact with the worm gear that is not a problem for the 3000 series PS2s but it can be for the 5000 series it can leave the right LASER rod sloppy and that will prevent LASER alignment you may need to bend the tabs on the thin metal bracket that holds the LASER rods down on the 5000 machines so that they don;t. move. If you have to buy a new ribbon cable for the LASER head you will have to remove the LASER drive from the console I don't recommend that you do that unless you have to, there are other ribbon cables that go to a PC board at the bottom of the PS2 and they will come disconnected they have to be reconnected last after they are reconnected to the underside of the optical LASER guide assembly then finally the power ON cable connector also the new LASER ribbon cables come with an excessively large white sticker Tab on the LASER head side and that will keep the LASER head from being able to move all the way back that white tab sticker is needed for rigidity when inserting the ribbon cable but part of it will need to be cut off without damaging the ribbon cable I used a shaving razor blade. Finally you can trouble shoot things without using the disc tray but you can't and should not attempt to eject the tray since it is not there if you do accidentally hit the eject button cut the power off with the one/zero power ON OFF switch you wouldn't want to damage the ejection system and make more work for your self. Finally I recommend removing the tiny Phillips head screw on the underside of the of the disc tray when removing it note the tips on the end of the disc tray rod and that it fits snuggly up inside of holes in the bottom side of the disc tray. Use clear zip lock bags to put the screws and small tools in you will lose a lot fewer parts that way and you may end up decreasing the DVD Potentiometer the one further-est away from the LASER arm to about 900 ohms to get it to read DVD games. New LASER heads come with two anti static short circuiting solder blobs the best way I have found tow remove those blobs is with a clean un tinned small soldering iron the clean tip will wick away the solder and do the job nicely you will need to make sure there is no electrical continuity between the solder points with a multi-meter or your new LASER head will never work see other youtube videos about LASER head replacement good luck.
Man I had buddy give me his PS2 with same issue. if had known it was that easy to repair I would have kept it. I gave it away like 10 years ago yet people weren't uploading repair vids to youtube.
@@waltersobchak7275 thank you, I tried blowing on it several times and wiped it with a q-tip using rubbing alcohol,no luck with it,do you think I can replace the av port?
@@dansmtbchannel5667 got the exact same problem in the same 30001 boat as you. Check this video out in scroll down into the comments and you'll see where I found out about this about 2 days ago. I thought I was going to be Superman and ordered a bunch of broken consoles off the Bay to ry to make some money . Although I did fix/clean six out of seven by either laser replacement or rubbing alcohol. And except for the two slims every console that I got was.... you guessed it a 30001!! Just like the one I originally owned. I went ahead and ordered also a 50001 because .....well I basically got it free. Profit from the ones I cleaned sold. Supposedly the 50001 are the Cadillacs of the fats with the least amount of problems. Yeah check the video out though and if that's not out of your room if that's not out of your still level as far as fixing things then you're a better man than me. I got kind of scared watching that I know when something's out of my league and that is definitely. Although to be honest I've been fixing PlayStation or rather attempting to repair them for for about a week now because I'm bored on the lockdown thing. Good luck sir
@@waltersobchak7275 thank you very much,I tried doing the same thing,I bought a modded hard drive,copied it and tried to sell them while the trend was still popular but no luck so far since there's a lot of competition
@@dansmtbchannel5667 I fixed that post up above. I'm sorry I subjected you to that and having to decipher what I was talking about. The grammar was atrocious I blame it on this software speech to text on this Samsung tablet. I don't know for some reason it just can't understand me. 🤔🤔🤨 Only had one job!! Just one job!! That's all the software designer had ....one job. To understand what I'm saying ......but no he couldn't do it. That's a pretty strenuous and complex task to say the least.
I was considering doing that as well, but I just enjoy using physical discs too much. It's a lot of fun for me. (Until the laser dies, of course, haha) Replacing the laser wasn't difficult and it should work fine for years to come. If you like hands-on repair I'd say it's worth it, but your solution is definitely the way to go for people who don't care about messing with physical discs.
mine just wanted to die a week after i got it from ebay. I kept trying to make it read discs, i just gave up and ordered a network adapter and a HDD instead of trying to get it to work.
The KHS400c (with the yellow) was the worst laser that ever came out for the ps2, Once they stop reading that is it, they're toast, the 400R lasted way longer, and usually when it starts skipping all you have to do is clean it, even when wearing out it would still carry on reading games for months, even years. i have about 28 p2 consoles and every one that has the 400c in it, all are kaput and can't be fiddled with, cleaned or nothing. i hate that laser.
trying to troubleshoot mine, it will play DVD games, but not dvd movies. it doesn't give me the error though, it just starts making a bad noise when it starts spinning and never reads it. I still have to clean the Laser though. great video :)
I'm so glad there are people like you making videos to help fix an old ps2.
I watched this from beginning to end with nothing but open mouthed anticipation. Great video, and you sir, are incredible!
I want to thank you for this video. I bought one of these for about 30.00 and the laser wouldn't function. With your video it made it easier to do a repair. KHS400B is the laser that mine has. Being able to rehab this old thing myself is a delight.
Fantastic video! Probably the best explained and most thorough one I have seen. I have cleaned the top laser previously and that solved the issue but I actually had no idea there was a second one below I could reach. Going to try this cleaning first on my current laser to see if that fixes the issue before buying a new one. Thanks for such a well-made video!
1:10 Aside from the built-in infrared sensor, the SCPH-50001 model (I have the exact same console as you do) also added support for playback of DVD-R/DVD+R/DVD-RW/DVD+RW discs, 480p output for the DVD Player application, and upgraded PlayStation Driver software version 1.11 (PS1 backwards compatibility). Earlier models had version 1.10 and below.
Thank you sir for your excellent video. I have an SCPH-30001 model (wow this month this machine turns 20 years old time flies) and was unable to play any games/read any discs. The repair costs exceeded its value so it was unreasonable to take to a repair shop. With your video I was able to replace the laser and it functions the way it did fresh out of the blue box. May I add for those with this model PS2, you’ll need a Torx T4, PH 1 and PH 000 bit to remove the screws safely. Thanks again for your help!!
Thank you for the positive feedback.
The SCPH-39001 is the best most reliable ps2, your model is the least reliable
Dude you are the goat. I tried this myself but this was literally so well done that even I could do it Hahahaha! Thanks so much!
Ahhh thank you I didn’t know the PS2 have two type of game CD and DVD
@John There is also the golden ones, gold are also DVDs
Blue for cd games silver/gold for dvd now you know. Also cd games spin at 52x speed which is not good id say
I did not know Sony got a law suit in 2006
Just bought a 50001 PS2 from eBay that supposedly only has a stuck drive tray. It's going to replace my 39001 from 2001, that doesn't recognize any official multitaps for some reason. Even a brand new one.
The plan is to break it all the way down and completely clean and restore it. Your video gave me info on some differences between the two models. Thank you!
WELL EXPLAINED THANKS IM GOING TO TRY A NEW LASER. I HAVE 2 MACHINES.PS2 GLADE TO SEE THE LASER HAS TO DO WITH THE DISK SPIN.
The year 2000 called. They want their CAPS LOCK KEY BACK!
Thnaks man after watching your video I gained the confidence to try to fix my old PS2 :)
Wish I looked this up years ago before I threw mine away after taking it to a repair shop and then telling me nothing could be done:/
Usually "repair people" tend to say they can't fix it because of the age, but it's because they don't make much money of off old consoles, that's what the cashier told me after his boss said they couldn't fix my PS3s HDMI port
@@Henry46858 yeah I figured as much😪
Nicely done. It’s been years since I’ve opened it, but I need to do this to mine. I still have my original 30001-R, which barely reads both types even after cleaning, so I’ll need to open her up to see which laser I need. IIRC, aside from the single height adjustment dial, the power/eject buttons are also attached to the top lid. You have to be careful removing it so that you can then remove the assembly from the top lid without damaging the ribbon cable.
Thanks to this, you’ve inspired me to finally do it! 🙂
Same but the ps1/cd discs read fine but not the ps2/dvd discs
Your model is the least reliable so there isn't much to do, the SCPH-39001 however is the most reliable version
To make it easier for the qtip to get to the laser underneath the lens, I tear off some of the qtip cotton and then put ipa on the qtip to mat it down a little and walla, fits a lot easier under there.
10:30 you need to flatten the qtip and then use a small amount of 99 iso
I've another problem, my PS2 can read CD with audio / music, DvD with movies but not CD with games or DVD with games. Should i replace the laser or the problem is something else? (Sorry my bad english)
PS: I don't get "Disc error", it just keeps loading.
Rosso well IMO replace the laser.
Hi. I recently altered the voltage on mine and it now reads the PS2 demo disc. I get the "insert Playstation 2 Format disk" error on all other discs. I replaced the laser twice but the replacement lasers do not read anything at all, even the demo disc just spins and it doesn't read it. I've removed the anti-static solder and tweaked the resistance on the new ones to be around 1100 Ohms but nothing. What do you think is the issue? Thanks!
hello from Russia :) David your video is absolute brilliant. i have this machine (PS2) from my childhood (i have a really good PC for gaming and work), but i love PS2 very much. such form of the nostalgia about "old good days & old good games" you know.. and now i found that my PS2 have lost its power (don't read any DVD).. i'm trying to figure out - what is really happened, but without success.. and only with the help of Your great video all obscures are gone :) thank You very much / your video is the very particular and detalized. it's real education masterpiece. and You have a great ability to teach other people. It's really rare ability in our world :) and now i think that american people isn't such arrogants as it seems on TV :) have a good day, you are really a great Man
You know that you can play PS2 games on PC in 4K.
@Seth Wellington th-cam.com/video/3rSiK2aO_5k/w-d-xo.html
@Seth Wellington You dont make any sense.
@Seth Wellington because you can download ps2 games. And why you are not allowed to play in a different country ?
@Seth Wellington What are you ? a Robot? You dont override memories.
I bought a used SCPH-50001 Fat PS2 on Ebay. It still reads DVDs and CDs but when playing PS1 CD games, the background music keeps on skipping although the discs has some mild scratches but when I play PS1 CDs on my SCPH-77001 Slim PS2, I do not encounter this problem. I have recently bought 3 KHS-400C laser modules just in case. I will wait for it to arrive then get my PS2 examined and laser replaced.
How did it go?While cleaning i managed to damge the lens and the flex ribbon beneath it
@@pt_2003 It works great now. I did not do the procedure myself. I took it to a game console shop and had the lens replacement done there. My PS2 now boots up fast and I no longer experience any skipping on my PS1 CDs.
Hey. I dont know if you see this but i have a similar issue. My ps2 just spits the tray out all the time and doesnt spin a disc or light up the laser.
Tryed swapping it but didnt help.
I have a first Generation PS2 Fat, the 30000 series. I have the single sdjusting knob, and i've played with it a bit, and I can either get Silver DVD games to work, OR CD's and blue disks to work.
Is the KHS400C laser the same part number for the 300000 and the 50000 series PS2?
Where did you buy yours?
Thanks!
Do you put some grease on the caddy mechanism ? Any good brand ?
Excellent video. You were very thorough, thank you.
Thanks for this! For just $15, I can just swap out the laser assembly and avoid all the trial and error of tinkering with the various adjustments.
Hi, I got a used PS2 FAT and the controller ports are maybe broken. I cannot plug in the controllers. There is any solution?
You can unplug the port and buy a new one. It connects via a ribbon cable.
@@curtis8516 Thank you for your answer. Where can I buy a new port?
My 3000 reads dvd games but not videos after tinkering with the big white wheel,. Plays cds and ps1 games fine ?
Mine is having this problem, but bought it off a person who said it was "cracked" or "jailbroken" and would play pirated games. All I have to do for it to read normal games is reset or sometimes hold the reset button to turn off while the game is in, then turn back on and it overrides the bit that would usually not read the disc.
For my 50001 model of the PS2, I had the opposite problem. The DVD ps2 games and normal DVDs play just fine but the ps1 and cd games don’t work. Usually it’s vise-versa
Thanks for this video. Got a replacement laser, went in and changed it. Closed it all up and worked first time. So easy. Didn't bother trouble shooting or adjusting anything. Knew changing the laser would fix it. Even got a new version (C). Other youtubers seem to think you have to flash the firmware but you don't. All working very well!!
11:03: I cleaned the top lense of my 2004 fat PS2 and it did fix the problem! No PS1 disc could be read, making awful noises, and now it reads everything perfectly. Unbelievable :).
Incorrect:
The PlayStation 2 was actually the second 6th gen console available after the Sega Dreamcast, which beat it by over a year.
Nobody really considers the Dreamcast as a 6th Gen console because of the games and graphics
That was a fantastic video, I will refer to this video when my debug console arrives! Nice video! :)
I meant debug not debut lol!
Where can you get the laser? I thought some posts said you had to solder a couple of places??
They are for sale on ebay. In some of them, 2 points are soldered to prevent electrostatic damage. You must de-solder those points before installing.
Hi! I just replaced the old laser, it was done by a technician. When I tried the machine back at home, I still have to try many times for the console to actually read the discs. Do you think it might be a matter of adjusting the height of the reader/structure? It's a 30001R model, by the way.
Great video! Calm presented, logical structure and easy to understand. Thank you very much
Anyone has a problem with their ps2 where it reads the disc just fine but after the playstation 2 screen pops up nothing happens and the ps2 just makes weird noises?
Amazing video mate. I'm gonna have to buy a new laser as well 👍
One ebaywr says..."You MUST removed the anti-static solder joint before installation. Otherwise the laser will not activate." Any ideas what this means? Didn't see tou do anything?
That is correct. On some lasers, there is a solder bridge to ground to prevent electrostatic damage. You must de-solder that bridge before installing. The laser I ordered did not come with the solder bridge. If you get one that way, it should be apparent on inspection.
My ancient Japanese PS2 is SCPH-18000. Do I really need to buy the exact model of a new laser for that or any laser will work just fine?
Hi, my problem with ps2 is, when I put a disc on it, it goes directly at home screen(browser and system configuration). It behaves like nothing is inside the disc tray. But after some restarts, the disc will work fine. What is the problem here?
Did the laser replacement fine on my other consoles, but my issue is that I have one system that needed a new ribbon cable AND a new laser, so I put the ribbon in what seemed to be correctly, but I’m having a major problem with clearance and tension on the cable. I’m beyond confused with that part
Ok I need some help. My problem right now is that my 50001 PS2 will not play DVD based discs much like the one in the video. HOWEVER, i'm not sure if the laser is dead or not. Let me explain why:
Prior to last night, my PS2 played all discs just fine. PS1, Blue PS2 (CD), and Yellow PS2 (DVD) all worked. I took my PS2 apart because I was trying to fix an issue where Blue PS2 discs sounded like they were being scratched when the drive was spinning. Before I put the disc drive back together, I made sure all the disc types worked and they still were. Then I completely reassembled the console and suddenly Yellow PS2 discs no longer would load. It would give me the disc read error. I tried everything to get it working. Adjusting the height on the white cogs, adjusting the height on the black screw on the rail, and even the potentiometer ohms for the DVD laser. Nothing I did worked at all and I ended up putting the potentiometer back where it was when I started which was 1195 ohms. And for the record, the laser does light up red when trying to read a DVD.
Is it possible I damaged the laser or ribbon cable when putting the drive back together? I'm at a loss for what's wrong with it. I did end up buying a new laser hoping it will fix it but I find it hard to believe that I broke the DVD laser just by taking the drive apart and.putting it back together.
Very clear and informative and fun ! Thanks.
Is it 400B or 400C? Both listed in ebay?
This is exactly what my PS2 is doing. I haven't tested regular CDs yet but it's doing the stutter and spins a short time before giving up.
The little black screw on the left of the lens rack needs to be swapped too, he didn't show that, but adjusting that can sometimes fix it.
@@curtis8516 Done it. After installing the new laser, the discs will now not spin at all. At least my original laser would play PS1 games. I think this "new" laser is faulty. Edit: turns out there is a blob of solder on the new laser board that must be removed, otherwise the disc will be prevented from spinning.
Did you desolder the blob? Some models such as the 30003 R developed a fault where it would take up to 1 minute for the disc to spin and load up. Try that too@@VanguardRaven
Hi,
I hope you're still answering.
Here is the problem.
Bought a new 400C laser. I put it in and adjusted the little screw of the laser and the white wheel (my ps2 has only one) to be in balance.
But the laser didn't work. Just focusing.
After adjustments of the wheel and the little screw and some adjustments of the potentiometer (DVD between 1000 and 1900ohms. now around 1200Ohms)
I finally found a position of the white wheel which worked. But not every time. Sometimes I have to reset two to three times until it's reading. But it almost never works after changing the game. After some restarts it does. I don't now why.
My 3000 series can read dvds, but for some reason it takes a a couple of minutes for the laser to turn on and start reading the disc. I took mine apart and watched it and the disc will spin but you don't see the laser, then the disc will stop. After about a minute to 2 you can see the laser turn on and then the disc will start spinning again and it works fine after that. For Cds though the laser turns on right away.
I had my 🧐PS 2 🎮console🎮 for over 17 years📆, so it shouldn't just die for no reason, I guess nothing is built to last, Great Video☮️.
Well, I thought I'd try. I have a PS2 TEST/Debugger unit that is a little different inside than this fat, and it spins and just stays in the browser. Does not notice discs at all. I cleaned it and nothing. Maybe a laser replacement is in order.
Where can I get good quality laser for the PS2 fat ??
Would model 39001 use the same laser?
Yes it would and some 39004 uses a type R laser insted of type C
Mine's the other way around. I think i will need to adjust the cd pot on the board.
Man i did not mark the white wheels. What should i do now?
Will this also work if it doesn’t read CDs either?
I took my PS2 apart and cleaned everything, i started it and it started working. I put it all back together, and it wouldn't read the disc or memory card again. I took it apart and it worked. When i put it together, it doesn't read it again. I never had issues with it, i took it out after about 5 yrs and now it's giving me these problems. What do you think is causing the problem?
I changed my laser but it's still making clicking sounds and it wont spin up. It can still play blue discs but not dvds. Can anyone help me? I've tried everything.
After replacing the laser the disk doesn't spin at all. I put the original laser back and everything works just fine ( a part the it doesn't read DVDs as always)... what can it be? I don't get it
On the new laser. Did you remove the anti-static solder bridge? The laser will not work until it is removed.
Did you have to remove some solder points to get this to work? I hear with the replacement laser that's necessary.
Yes. One of the points my be soldered to ground (for protection of static damage) that will have to be unsoldered. I do not know if all the lasers come that was, but mine did. I can not remember from memory exactly which solder bridge it is.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Gotcha, so I got a new laser after watching this, desoldered the anti-static protection and put the thing in, but for some reason it's not loading games at all. Same issue as before, disc spins up but just stops at some point. Any idea why that might be happening? Pretty bummed out it wasn't the solution I needed. I didn't adjust the potentiometer or anything, just kept whatever was stock.
My disc on my ps2 is not spinning what do I do to fix that issue
most likely replace the dvd drive
where did you buy the laser?
I purchased the laser on eBay from a source in China. If you search PS2 laser or KHS400C on eBay, you will find many vendors. It appears that the KHS400B and KHS400C are interchangeable, but the KHS400C is supposed to be more reliable.
@obbygiftI have replaced lasers several times on both PS2 and PS3 machines. The "cheap Chinese" replacements are identical to the lasers that failed. An imitated part usually has some differences from the original. These lasers are absolutely identical in every way. I am pretty sure it is the same part, made by the same companies. Of all the lasers that I have replaced, none has failed so far.
I have purchased several used PS2 machines. I have paid between $25 and $40 for these old machines. The $40 machine came with controllers an a bunch of good games. If the replacement laser is costing $30-$50, then it is more than the whole machine, and therefor not worth it. I have been very satisfied with the Chinese lasers price/performance.
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Swapped the laser and my machine is still getting a dvd disc read error. 😟
Good video, keep up good work (Y)!!!I was wondering if all lasers for PS2 FAT systems are same, or it depends on model?I have PS2 FAT SCPH 39004 and if I buy regular laser for FAT systems, will it work?Please respond.
Yes it will work, all laser for ps2 fat systems are same
No they are not they come in b and c
@@larrystarksjr5210 it depend on which laser the ps2 have now
No they're all different
I have just replaced a laser but... The old one would read CDs and no DVDs, while the new one reads DVDs but won't read CDs. Is it possible that I did something wrong? (I did it for the first time. I did have some issues to remove the anti static solder point, nearly f@#£ed up the new laser but managed to fix it with the help of needle and plastic foil... Don't ask...). Is it possible that the laser was defective out of the box?
Could it be defective from the factory or could you have damaged it? Yes and Yes. I would suggest buying another and being very careful this time.
Thanks for very detailed explanation. I learned a lot.
Super useful video i only had to clean my laser lense to get my ps1 games to read again, but took out the laser of another PS2 that i just use as a stand for my screen, to use as spare part next time it has issues.
I have a PS2 30,001 and it can't head CD's or PS1 games but can play most PS2 games and only a few DVD movies. Should I also get a new laser for it?
The problem you describe is consistent with a failing laser. It would be the most likely problem. As the video shows, the laser is not expensive and it is easy to replace. I would recommend starting there.
I got the new laser a while ago and it's much better now. It still has some issues with really long loading times when I first put in a disc and some times a read error that eventually fixes itself. It might be that the laser is for the 50,001 and I have the 30,001.@@c.davidgraves4848
I had a PS2 Test console that doesn't play DVD, but it's regional free, meaning you can play Japanese imported games. I wouldn't recommend playing DVD on consoles because it will affect your lens.
My DVD player did not work in 2000. I took it back AND got another system. That worked and the DVD player.
Dreamcast was the first sixth generation console.
Also, "Sony Xbox" and "Nine-tendo"?
Technically correct. The Dreamcast is considered 6th gen. I did not think about it. It was a flop and left little impact. Other than TH-cam, I have never actually seen one. I wasn't writing an academic paper. The brief history was just an intro to a video about replacing the PS2 laser.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Little impact?
You apparently arent a retro gamer at heart.
I went to go check my ps2 and it’s the 39001 model
I’m have the same problem after replacing…
11:48 PLEASEEEE HEALP I DID THIS MISTAKE BY NOT KNOWING PLEASE SOMEBODY HELP ME TO PUT THAT BACK AS IT WAS....PLEASE....NOW MY DISC DOESNT WANT TO SPIN....
I just got a PS2 for cheap, and I'm not sure what is wrong with it. It came with one game, FIFA 2004, and it works without a single problem, it reads it every time. But yeah, that seems like it's the only game that works. I tried running some random movie DVD, and it does not read it. I also tried to run PS1 games on CD, and nothing. It just gives me CD read error. I guess that I will try to clean it, since it looks really dirty inside when DVD tray is opened. If that does not work I guess that I will replace a laser then. But only strange thing here is that it runs that one game that came with it without a problem.
The hit or miss nature suggests it is a failing laser. Try cleaning it first. If that does not fix it, then just go ahead and replace it.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Yeah. I just opened it up and it was really dusty inside. I cleaned DVD tray area, along with fan and everything else. And that fixed it. It also reads PS1 CD's now without any issues. Only bad thing is that it's not modded, so it only runs original DVD's and games.
@@ivanuremovic1199 The easiest mod is to run FMCB from a memory card at boot up. Put a hard drive in the PS2 and back up your games to the HD.
Nobody knows how to measure those pots, thanks to you i was able ti measure mines. God bless you, have a beautiful day!!!
I have one that just keeps saying loading disc but wont ever load. I took it apart and when first putting a disc in the laser will only come on for a second that I can see, looks like it goes off, then makes a clicking sound while attempting to read a disc. Will not read cd or dvd
There are 2 lasers. The DVD laser is red and visible to the eye. The CD laser is infrared and not visible. You should be able to see the CD laser with your cell phone or digital camera, since a CCD device is sensitive to 850 nanometers. The lasers wear out over time. You might detect a laser, but it might not be strong enough to do the job.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Ive was trying to get it to read music cd and a dvd and it just did the same thing. I can only see the red laser for a second shine through the dvd when the tray closes. Kinda bums me out, I was really wanting to play grand turismo 4 again.
Thank you very much for this detailed instruction for the lens replacement! I just ordert a pair of these laser modules for my SCPH-50004, and i had to order the KHS400C for best compatibility. just for the others who would like to try it your self, please check the part number.
Keep it up! ;)
Is your PS2 still working?
Yes.
@@c.davidgraves4848 Thanks for replying I just subscribed....
Mine has the Same problem but: It Can Play DVD-ROM Games but will not play CD Games, DVD movie
Does anyone have a solution for when the disc won't spin? I replaced my laser and desoldered the anti-static point, but the disc will only twitch once I put it in. The laser only attempts to read the disc for a brief second and stops. I've tried this on both CD and DVD games.
The problem is in your motor the motor that makes the disk spin remove the ribbon cable and check the cable it self iam sure 100% its the ribbon cable one of its teeth might be bend
Hello, great video, thanks a lot. My ps2 fat reads CDs but I get the red screen "insert ps or ps2 format" when I read DVDs. Did you have this issue or disc error message?
If your PS2 is reading CDs OK, but having trouble with DVD, it is probably the laser. A common problem. Easy and inexpensive to fix.
nice video, anyone have advice for a ps2 that only reads cd and dvd? i dont know what the problem is because the larger data ps2 games should be dvd-roms, the same as dvds. it runs dvds and the cd-roms but not the dvd-roms. are they different or is it something else?
Cheers for this, my treasured Japanese scph-10000 has been running hard for 18 years without a hiccup but the laser is getting slow to read both dvd and cd and really struggles reading ps1 games, tried to clean it but still no different, not bothering with laser adjustment I'll just buy a laser, good to know the Chinese eBay ones work OK thanks
Update: boought a khs-400c laser worked a treat straight out the box, reads all discs faster than when I bought it...excellent.
Thanks. I love those resurrection stories.
I’ll be ordering one this week, literally the exact same mine is doing. Was working well and after a month hiatus it crapped out. Tried cleaning and adjusting to no avail.
Nice video I just fixed two PS2s a SCHP 50001/N and a SCHP 30001 they use different LASERS the part numbers are on them although they work the same. I bought new metal LASER arms to replace the plastic ones. You have to make a couple of cardboard or plastic shim washers to use the Torx screw that was used with the plastic LASER arm because the plastic LASER arm is thicker and the old Torx screw, which is a crvtv5 type torx bit will be too long and will bind on the LASER rod I suggest using an ice pick and the card board the new LASER head comes in to make your own shim washers. You may have to bend the LASER arm down to make good contact with the worm gear that is not a problem for the 3000 series PS2s but it can be for the 5000 series it can leave the right LASER rod sloppy and that will prevent LASER alignment you may need to bend the tabs on the thin metal bracket that holds the LASER rods down on the 5000 machines so that they don;t. move. If you have to buy a new ribbon cable for the LASER head you will have to remove the LASER drive from the console I don't recommend that you do that unless you have to, there are other ribbon cables that go to a PC board at the bottom of the PS2 and they will come disconnected they have to be reconnected last after they are reconnected to the underside of the optical LASER guide assembly then finally the power ON cable connector also the new LASER ribbon cables come with an excessively large white sticker Tab on the LASER head side and that will keep the LASER head from being able to move all the way back that white tab sticker is needed for rigidity when inserting the ribbon cable but part of it will need to be cut off without damaging the ribbon cable I used a shaving razor blade. Finally you can trouble shoot things without using the disc tray but you can't and should not attempt to eject the tray since it is not there if you do accidentally hit the eject button cut the power off with the one/zero power ON OFF switch you wouldn't want to damage the ejection system and make more work for your self. Finally I recommend removing the tiny Phillips head screw on the underside of the of the disc tray when removing it note the tips on the end of the disc tray rod and that it fits snuggly up inside of holes in the bottom side of the disc tray. Use clear zip lock bags to put the screws and small tools in you will lose a lot fewer parts that way and you may end up decreasing the DVD Potentiometer the one further-est away from the LASER arm to about 900 ohms to get it to read DVD games. New LASER heads come with two anti static short circuiting solder blobs the best way I have found tow remove those blobs is with a clean un tinned small soldering iron the clean tip will wick away the solder and do the job nicely you will need to make sure there is no electrical continuity between the solder points with a multi-meter or your new LASER head will never work see other youtube videos about LASER head replacement good luck.
Man I had buddy give me his PS2 with same issue. if had known it was that easy to repair I would have kept it. I gave it away like 10 years ago yet people weren't uploading repair vids to youtube.
Can you please do a tutorial on what to do/fix a fat ps2 30001 or any other fat ps2 model that has no video or audio output please?
May be AV port
@@waltersobchak7275 thank you, I tried blowing on it several times and wiped it with a q-tip using rubbing alcohol,no luck with it,do you think I can replace the av port?
@@dansmtbchannel5667 got the exact same problem in the same 30001 boat as you. Check this video out in scroll down into the comments and you'll see where I found out about this about 2 days ago. I thought I was going to be Superman and ordered a bunch of broken consoles off the Bay to ry to make some money . Although I did fix/clean six out of seven by either laser replacement or rubbing alcohol. And except for the two slims every console that I got was.... you guessed it a 30001!! Just like the one I originally owned. I went ahead and ordered also a 50001 because .....well I basically got it free. Profit from the ones I cleaned sold. Supposedly the 50001 are the Cadillacs of the fats with the least amount of problems. Yeah check the video out though and if that's not out of your room if that's not out of your still level as far as fixing things then you're a better man than me. I got kind of scared watching that I know when something's out of my league and that is definitely. Although to be honest I've been fixing PlayStation or rather attempting to repair them for for about a week now because I'm bored on the lockdown thing. Good luck sir
@@waltersobchak7275 thank you very much,I tried doing the same thing,I bought a modded hard drive,copied it and tried to sell them while the trend was still popular but no luck so far since there's a lot of competition
@@dansmtbchannel5667 I fixed that post up above. I'm sorry I subjected you to that and having to decipher what I was talking about. The grammar was atrocious I blame it on this software speech to text on this Samsung tablet. I don't know for some reason it just can't understand me. 🤔🤔🤨
Only had one job!! Just one job!! That's all the software designer had ....one job. To understand what I'm saying ......but no he couldn't do it. That's a pretty strenuous and complex task to say the least.
I have put a dvd in and it play I’m just having trouble with one game grand theft auto 3 it plays San Andreas and vice city fine I’m confused
It sounds like your PS/2 laser is OK. Possibly that one GTA disc is defective. Do you have access to another PS2 to test it on?
C. David Graves it worked on a slim ps2
Thanks , just cleaned the game and it worked , time for some old school WINBACK , I remember winback 2 was no good but 1 is awesome
ford racing 3 for ps2 is on cd-rom
How much did the laser cost
@@ti-8493 were do you get one?
@@ti-8493 thank you tried fixing my power ribbon and had a hard night
@@ti-8493 I spent more than that lol
i just left the failed laser alone, got a network adapter and a 500gb hdd, and installed free hd boot and open ps2 loader and some games
I was considering doing that as well, but I just enjoy using physical discs too much. It's a lot of fun for me. (Until the laser dies, of course, haha) Replacing the laser wasn't difficult and it should work fine for years to come. If you like hands-on repair I'd say it's worth it, but your solution is definitely the way to go for people who don't care about messing with physical discs.
mine just wanted to die a week after i got it from ebay. I kept trying to make it read discs, i just gave up and ordered a network adapter and a HDD instead of trying to get it to work.
@@pentiummmx2294 are you talking about your replacement laser giving out?
Another work around. FreeMCboot if the DVD exploit disk fails try the cd exploit.
Dude thanks for your video tutorial thumbs up
I had just found this out with a game I brought
The KHS400c (with the yellow) was the worst laser that ever came out for the ps2, Once they stop reading that is it, they're toast, the 400R lasted way longer, and usually when it starts skipping all you have to do is clean it, even when wearing out it would still carry on reading games for months, even years. i have about 28 p2 consoles and every one that has the 400c in it, all are kaput and can't be fiddled with, cleaned or nothing. i hate that laser.
Mine plays music cd, game cd, dvd movies but not dvd PS2 games...burnt out.
Nope...I turned up the laser and it works...15 minutes
For me, it's the opposite. It struggles to read PS1 games and CD-based PS2 games, but works well with PS2 games.
I had that same issue so i sold my SCPH-50001 and bought a SCPH-39001 instead
where's the link to the new laser part?
trying to troubleshoot mine, it will play DVD games, but not dvd movies. it doesn't give me the error though, it just starts making a bad noise when it starts spinning and never reads it. I still have to clean the Laser though. great video :)
Thank you for this video!!!