How to Plan the Long IFR Cross Country | 61.65(d)

Part one of our long IFR XC flight. See the full flight at www.flight-insight.com/post/l...
In this part, we select our route, and plan the flight, satisfying the requirements laid out in 61.65(d).
The route will be:
KRNT BELVU4 HOOME KOLM; ILS 17 Circle to Land 35
KOLM YELM5 OLM V165 UBG KMMV; VOR/DME-B Circle to Land 35
KMMV UBG V287 OLM KRNT; RNAV 34
See the full flight at www.flight-insight.com/post/l...

[@seattleraf]

Thanks for picking my flight! Hope to fly it on July 16!

[@antiquehealbot6543]

I've done my IFR training at KHIO and KMMV was one of go to places for IAP practices. Always good to hear familiar airports in your channel.

[@skykingron]

Me too! And Kvuo Pearson I also flew out of. Was in a flying club at Khio. I live in Fla now

[@aviatortrucker6285]

My first long flight after I received my instrument rating way back in 1989 was from KPWA to KTAZ. That was approximately 463 nautical miles. I filed IFR, but unfortunately, most of the weather was VFR. I learned real fast how expensive it can be since ATC vectored me around Oklahoma City for about 20 miles before I had to remind them to resume me back on course towards Tulsa. That probably added an extra .4 on the Hobbs. We did not have GPS back then and I actually “ran out of navaid” because the distance between two of the VOR was greater than 180 miles. Those routes changed since many of the VOR and ADF sites have been decommissioned since. Mostly, due to the weather always being nice out here in the Midwest or stormy I do most of my IFR currency in a Redbird simulator. I also practice on Microsoft flight simulator and leave the weather conditions as rainy. This insurance that you take off and land in hard IFR.

[@foodflights1408]

I took my son and a friend on a flight from KPAE to KMMV back in the early 2000s, but VFR. That was a really nice flight and the museum was excellent.

[@harryradfordphoto]

Thank you, just did the KRNT to KMMV on the flight sim, not being from around the area it was interesting to see all of the scenery around Seattle and Portland. Ive just done the return flight plan as suggested back to KRNT and hope to get that in today.

[@PghGameFix]

As always... a good vid. Should be helpful for the guys getting their IR.

[@RegularItemShow]

Fantastic. Thank you.

[@freepilot7732]

MMV was the last approach I did at bought to get my IR.

[@Ian-ru7rj]

I did my instrument training out of S50, just 9 miles south of RNT. For the XC I did MMV and AST because Astoria actually had IMC on what was otherwise a gorgeous spring day the rest of the area
Also, PWT might be a better option than Olympia. RNAV with LPV on both 02 and 20, and ILS for runway 20. And anyone training out of RNT will be MUCH more familiar with that airport than Olympia

[@seattleraf]

Haha yeah I’ve done approaches and landings at PWT countless times. I picked Olympia just cause it’s on the way south anyways and thought it could be fun to go somewhere else for a change. But yeah PWT may be safer in order to get the 3 different approaches.
I love S50. Despite training out of RNT I basically learned to land at auburn.

[@jimallen8186]

“an instrument approach at each airport”… what if you hit four airports not just three yet due to traffic flow get pushed into the visual at one of them?

[@JustSayN2O]

Why not just say 'unable' and request an IAP?

[@fishhisy]

I combined the night dual commercial and the 3 point cross country in a 182rg

[@Ian-ru7rj]

My day dual commercial was combined with my my IFR XC. But that’s a good way to save money.

[@micwell2247]

Is the voice narration AI ??

[@TridentCapital]

When do you file each flight? On the ground at the initial departure point or at each destination as you land and taxi back?

[@Themajesticnature]

If I am not mistaken, FAA recommends to file it before departure, unless an emergency occur, therefore, file the changes as soon as practicable.

[@JB_Hobbies]

I haven’t done a true multi-leg flight IFR, but if I were planning on multiple flight plans, I would file them all before you leave the first airport to avoid delays. Just set your departure times for intermediate legs based on prior leg ETE times and how long you plan to stop before initiating the next leg. I believe you have about a 2-hr buffer on your planned departure time before you have to refile, and if you set your times based on information you have right before your initial departure, then you should be well within that window for your subsequent legs.