Hey Everyone, thanks again for watching, I understand this video will get a mixed reaction. If any of you have ridden a ZZR1400 and a 1000 SX in the past, or maybe a CBR650R, let me know what you think as they're a completely different riding experience imo. The ZZR for me has more resemblance to a super sport than a tourer from the bikes I've ridden, but I'm curious to know what you all think from your own experiences. 🙂👍
I currently have a Z1000sx which is a sport tourer. I think the ZZR is confused with a touring bike as you don't need to drive round the city in 1st gear like you so with the ZX6R or ZX10R. Definitely been considering this as my next bike. Shame you can only get the 2021 model in the UK now.
I just traded my ZX6R for a ZX14R. Both are of fairly recent year. I would have to say the 14R is comfortable but still a super sport motorcycle at heart. Very light on her feet for the weight. Also the weight is nothing for how much ability the bike has. Excellent suspension and brakes, and a very strong engine. I have ridden touring and sports touring motorcycles and the 14R is way more capable. Infinitely so. I'm so happy I got the 14R. 💚
Its definitely a sort bike i just traded my 2021 kawasaki concours on 2023 zx14 totally different bikes like you said its very comfortable great review
I've owned a ZX-14R since 2012 and as to whether it's a sport-tourer or a supersport I would say ... it's both. On weekends I treat it as a sportbike, ride it up the mountain roads hard, it's easily capable of keeping up with my friends' liter supersport bikes. On long rides, I put a tail bag on it and ride hundreds of kilometers fast and comfortably. On a supersport bike I had (a 2018 Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade SP1), riding long distances was painful.
I have a ZX14R.. love it.. it's big fast and torquey!. For my 59yr old body it needs bar-risers and footpegs lowered to be 'sport tourer'. Passenger was not comfortable for extended rides. It IS a sportbike but won't keep up with the 1000's on the track because it's so big and heavy. I'm King of the Road on this thing ! Cheers
I just rode my 2022 ZX-14 up from Dallas to Grand Rapids, Michigan in 2 days and I had absolutely zero problems doing 500 miles a day on the bike….except for the fact that the bike was super bored just puttering along at 4500 rpm and 75 mph. I hadn't ridden in 20 years, but I used to do long trips on my 1993 ZX-11D I had back then and it was also very comfortable. I'm 6'2 and weigh 240 and the Kawasaki's have always made big bikes for big guys. I've ridden the new Hayabusa and it's a beast, but nowhere near as comfortable as the big Ninja.
you can call it whatever you want, my 2015 zzr1400 is my personal green missile, it is awesome in every way, and after 7 years it still surprises me and makes me grin in my lid every time i ride it.. it is blisteringly fast, supremely comfy and growls like a demon… it’s a keeper.
Agree 100% mate. I do everything on mine, from commuting to attacking the bends. It does it all and, on the road, very little will stay with it when you want to "Push the envelope" 🙂
I would class the zzr1400 as a super sport tourer. Reasons why this bike isn't a sports bike. Too heavy. Sports bikes are made as light as possible. Too long, you can not go round short bends on this bike and is more adapted for drag racing than track racing. When I bought this bike, it was sold on the website as a sports tourer. You brought up the Busa, well the Busa was made to best the blackbird, a sports tourer. The foot pegs are not as harsh as a sports bike. The seat is too wide and comfy for a sports bike. The revs are too quiet for a typical sports bike. A sports bike to me is simply a bike that looks like a sports bike, which you can tour on, which as you said, you can tour on. If I toured on a pure sports bike, I would need hospital treatment for a week for my bad back and wrists. One thing we can agree on. This is one of the best bikes and value for money bike ever made. I use mine for everything, going to work. Speedy weekends, and long distance.. It is a bugger for petrol though, anyway. Great arguments put forward.. 👍👍👍
You are completely right. To bad the manufacturers don't make more sport bikes that are for the street rider. Most of us will never be on the track, but want a sport bike and not a street legal race bike. When I looked for a bike when I was getting back to riding none of the sport bikes had any comfort to them. I ended up on the ZX14 and now am so happy that I did! Long live the King.
Being a big guy I didn't feel quite at home on a liter bike. After riding my friends busa I knew I had to make the jump. Luckily I was able to sit on a busa and 14 side by side. After finding and researching the 14 I was leaning towards it but knew how the busa felt. When I sat on the 14 I was blown away at how comfortable I was. When I rode it out the lot in Orlando and drove it home to New Orleans I knew I made the right choice. I think it is easily the most comfy sport bike. It is just all around an excellent bike. It is almost perfection by how balanced and smooth it feels and not to mention how cool it looks. I want to call it a sport tourer but that is what the concourse is. The touring version of the 14. So I think it is best called a supersport or hypersport.
I was under the impression that a sports bikes riding position is more aggressive, knees rammed under your chin and arse in the air style, with a single seat or with a small pillion area. Where as a sports tourer is a more "neutral" upright position, along with a big comfortable seat for both rider and pillion, making it much more comfortable for long runs. I mean; my bike, back in the day, was the nuts of the mutt. But viewed more of a sports tourer these days, since the production of newer and faster bikes. But that`s not so much a reflection of the way the bikes have changed. When they were introduced, they were damn fast, and they still are today... it`s just that the markets have moved on! I recently had a test ride on the new Suzuki GSXR1000 and BMW S1000RR, both thorough sport/race bikes. and I`m happy to say I ride a sports tourer... So, if my Yzf1000R is now a classed as a "sports tourer" your ZZR1400 must be a "Super sport tourer."
It seems that as a product, the ZZR1400 or ZX14R is advertised to best suit the market. Sports in the US may attract a higher volume of sales than pitching it as a Sport Tourer. If the market is buying X, they'd be stupid calling it Y. I think this is the wheel coming full circle. Sport tourers were the professionals in the sport class and touring class, combined into one machine. They were not the masters of either. The 80's into 90's saw the ZX10 (Tomcat) & the CBR1000F, both pitched as sport tourers. They were comparable to where the ZZR1400 currently sits among the manufacturers product range and directly in the same position amongst the capabilities of the range of machines today.
I fully agree, I believe this maybe one of the arguments till the end of time, I had the same debate with one of my work colleagues last year, till I sent him the advertisement for a sport tourer for this machine. I think one thing we can all agree on, it's a dam fine machine. I've had a centre stand fitted to mine and now struggling to get decent cans fitted. In my opinion, the big black exhausts, such as are on my bike spoils the look.
before i bought my 2019 zx14r i was riding a 2001 katana 600 which handled very well because i took 3 years to rebuild and improve it. after getting the 14 i took 2 weeks to dial in the suspension for my weight and riding style. despite the increased weight it handles surprisingly well. i love the twisties. after owning it for almost 2 years she still can scare the crap out of me. the MOORE MAFIA tune on the ECU is awesome.
Correct! GTR1400 sport touring, zx14 sports bike! I have the GTR1400 and ZX12R. Very different power delivery between the two. I have ridden my GTR1400 on route66 and it was awesome! I don't think I do it on ZX12R just because of comfort... I love my Kawasaki's!!!
Hooray, someone has hit the nail on the head. ZX14R/ZZR1400 and GSX1300 = Sport Bike. It's just a bit more comfortable than say ZX10R. A BMW K1600GTL is a sports tourer how ever wouldn't mind a GTR1400 is Blaze Green, never seen that colour in Australia.
Thanks for the great review. I think you really hit the nail on the head with the ZX-14. As a middle aged man close to 60 years of age, I would say you are spot on. This bike in my opinion has a more aggressive riding position as opposed to a Sport Tourer. Would I buy the beautiful ZX-14 at my age? Probably not. Then again maybe. Oh to be young.🙂 .
I am 60 years old , I have just Traded my 14r on a near New 14r , with OHLIN'S Shocks Brilliant bike , that do me for 5 Years Don't make yourself old in the head You know you can ride it , DON'T Listen to riders that are not up For It or not as good as you Ps Before you say can you ride This bike , well lots other riders Tell me all the time , I hope I can Ride as well as you can when I Am your age , when you get older You know your limits, this bike has 204 HP at the back wheels , to be Truthfully, I am not useing the extra Power , I have picked a few spots And gave it to it in 3 Rd and 4 th Wow , one Quick bike , out on open Roads , Bumpy, rough , most 1000cc Cannot keep up , you see the 14r Weight is 260 Kg, it hugs the road Bikes have got to light !
I'm still going along the lines of what I was first introduced to the bike as, and that's a Hyperbike... The GTR1400 is the true sports-tourer from Kawasaki using the ZZR gen1 engine.
The easiest answer which shouldnt cause a debait is..... The ZZR1400 is whatever the owner wants it to be for them, we are all different, male, female and sizes, geographic locations and many other requirements. some say hyper touring, others sports, for me i have altered it to be one of my favourite bikes ever, the CBR600FY as ive lowered the pegs and double stacked the risers, now i have an everyday bike which is as comfy (for me) as the cbr600fy with shit loads of power. Amen! stay safe!
I wouldn't get too hung up on it, some will argue that an R1 over 10 years old is a sports tourer, such is the development of what constitutes a superbike. Of course the gtr fjr etc are pure tourers but the long wheelbase of the hyperbike class, and now lower HP/ heavier weight than a superbike tend to give it that st label. In the 80s this bike's ancestors the gpz900r gpz1000rx and then zx10 would have been considered superbikes but then the fireblade changed all that. It's certainly not a custom cruiser (or isn't it)? I know I want one.
My 2017 Performance Sport is perfect on fast A roads but a bit of a handful (sometimes) on tight B roads in my area (rural Cumbria). Compare to my '98 ZX6R G1 that I've had for 22 years (!) Super capable on B roads that could be used on track no problem... That's why I have and use both. The rest is just semantics.
I think a few of the arguments for it being a sport tourer don't add up. People say it's big, it's not that big. Then they say it's heavy, but if you look in the owner's manual it states the dry weight which isn't that far off say, a late 90's / early 00's race bike (most reviewers will add whatever fuel weight they deem fit and say it weighs 250KG though). It handles better than most of those bikes as well. Kawasaki probably just knew people who buy these are gonna do long distances on them so they made it comfy. Most folk say it's a sporty tourer but in reality it's more a tour-y sportbike. Tourers really are big heavy buggers. Edit for; I'm kinda gutted it's a ZZR here in the U.K. as opposed to a ZX14R. I want 'Ninja' decals.
Doing away with the "supersport" and "hypersport" distinctions Tourer = preferable to long distances. Sport = preferable to cornering. Sport bike = zx25r, zx4r, zx6r, zx10r, h2, h2r Sport tourer = ninja 650, ninja 1000sx, zzr1400, h2se So while the tourers can do what sport bikes are made for they don't excell at it like the dedicated sport bikes do, due to their weight, seating position/ergonomics, and power delivery. And while you Can put luggage bags on a sport bike, it's not designed for long distances (despite zx10r's inclusion of cruise control 😂). No body is wants to ride backpack on a liter bike for 3 hours straight. Entry level bikes can be a combination of things because their purpose is to get ppl on 2 wheels. Namely, the ninja 400 (soon to be ninja 500). Sport touring ergonomics like the ninja 1000sx but lacks the power, weight and amenities to travel long distances. More like a commuter/city basher. The 400 can lead you into either a sport or a touring future.
Hi! This video is very interesting! I'm thinking of buying a zzr1400 and I'm only concerned by its behavior in turns. I already have a zx10e so I'm not expecting something that agile, but I'm afraid that this could be too heavy and not be fun to ride in the mountain Twisties… again I'm not expecting a 600cc or a 1000cc… Can someone give me feedback? To give you more information, the other bike in the list, cause I've tried it, is a caponord 1200, which is a very good bike, but I don't like it as much… Thanks
its a motorcycle multitool use it for what you are feeling on the day ,the best all round bike I have owned ,although not so good on on the gravel, but I DONT WANT A GS1200.
The lineage is Kz, Gpz, Ninja... I owned a 78 kz1000 and it was definitely a sportbike. It's competition was the GS1100/1150 that later became gsxr's....I also owned a gsxr1100 when they came to the states in 86...Nobody in their right mind would say those weren't sportbikes. The fact that the ZX series are Ninjas pretty much ends the discussion. All Ninjas are sportbikes.
Dose land missile count? Lol its definitely a heavy weight sports bike, they can hold they own on a track & great for drag racing, but then they are good for long distances riding & comfortable, so as they good at many thing i guess why there called hyper sports bikes? As is the hyabusa
It's not a tourer. I did 1,400 miles in 2 1/2 days last week on mine. Handled great, both on the flat country and in the mountains. Great bike! But my knees, back and neck tells me it's a sport bike.
It's whatever the Fu?ck you want it to be it's your hard earned money. Mine is a 1441cc Scooter because that's how I ride it I'm the slowest rider you will ever encounter on a 14. 😁😁😂😂
It's a sport bike, for some reason people are confusing what the motorcycle is. What it is not is a track bike, it is a drag bike and is King of the 1/4 mile. No different than the 1970's Kaw 750 H2, just try and ride that beast on a track, doesn't turn and brakes sucked. They are built for speed, they are drag bikes. Kawasaki is the King of the road throttle on, they also make a decent track bike, but that never has been what riding Kaw's has been about. Kawasaki is about balls to the wall power/speed.
None, they are the same motorcycle. Not sure why there are different naming schemes for the bikes in Europe and the rest of the world, I prefer ZX-14 naming personally.
Okay I want to clear things up for you somewhat here as it is clear you don’t know how to label your ZX 14R or ZZR 1400. In the simplest of terms for you here, these bikes are in the “Hyperbike class” the ZX 14-R is not in the Sports Touring Bikes. The Kawasaki concours is in the Sports Touring Bike class. The two main leaders on the market today in the Hyperbike class are the Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa and the Kawasaki ZX 14R or ZZR 1400 with the Kawasaki heading the lead out of the both. If you’re still confused as to what to label your bike I will upload a video and spell it out to you in simple English.
It's not an original ZX. ZXs have 2 separated seats for the driver and the passenger. Check out ZX12R for example. This is actually a ZZR, not a ZXR. ZZRs have always been Sport Tourers, not Superbikes (1000cc) and not Supersports (600cc). It is sad that Kawasaki call the ZZR a ZXR in USA. If they really want a proper Hyperbike and the successor of ZX12R, they better make one...
Don't really understand what you're driving at? It's a very very comfortable and tourable bike especially with bar risers or flat barred. This bike isn't considered a super sports anymore. BTW I speak from experience have ZZR1400 Performance Sport & a Gen 2 Hayabusa
Surely fitting bar risers and/or flat bars is turning the bike into a sports tourer?. I also dont believe that time changes what a bike is, a Ducati 916 is still a supreme sports bike even though it is supposedly outclassed by todays machinery. For me, the 14R is a supersports bike but as he said in the video, it is not a Race Bike, although a well ridden one will surprise quite a few around a track. I suppose that in the end, there is no definitive answer to the question. Just opinions, and we all have those 🙂
@@MichaelZZRrider We are going to have to agree to disagree, just about everyone in the UK & Europe put bar risers on their ZZR1400 (upto 30mm) and lesser so flat barring it. Lowering footpegs is less common but does get done but tends to screw the handling up as the pegs touch down way too easily. This bike is absolutely seen as a balistic touring continent crosser here
The ZX9 was the fastest production bike in 96 the year I bought my first ZX9 and she was a fat girl as well and it's so comfortable to go on Long rides when you have that bigger framed bike
Hyper Sport Tourer!! Definitely not a Sports bike, you don't sit on them you lie on the tank and they have a postage stamp for a pillion seat. "Doesn't sound like a Sports tourer" Really? What does a Sports tourer sound like then? The Concourse or GTR 1400 may have a more up right seating position but it's down on everything else, power, brakes and handling. More of a tourer than a Sports tourer. As much as I love my ZZR 1400 it's a brute on tight bends, sure it reacts to input well but it also wants to sit up, whereas Sports bikes are point and stick, take tight bends like they're running on rails.
If that is the case then 99% of so called "Super Sport " riders cant actually ride, as that would be the only reason the 14R can stay with them on tight bendy roads.
@@MichaelZZRrider Don't see many ZZR 1400's/ ZX14's whooping Sports bike Ass on a race track? Yet they're renound on the drag strip!! One has no corners, perhaps that tells you something. It's all about wheel base, I had a Triumph 900 Thunderbird Sport during the time when the GSX 1000 and the R1 were sporting the crown. I couldn't keep up on the straights but they couldn't catch me on corners. I find the opposite true of my ZZR it's like a rocket on the straights, loves sweeping bends but it just has too long a wheelbase for tight turns at high speed. I haven't tried a 55 profile rear tyre yet, that might improve turn in. Sure it handles very well for its size but it definitely needs constant input. Whereas previous bikes and my FZ1-S I just point and set.
@@michaellilley6725 I fully understand your point mate. The 14 is not a track weapon but a good rider can make it perform well. On real roads where one is not pushing at 100% because of limitations imposed by road surface, other vehicles etc the 14 can stay with most machines. Sure, you have to work harder but that is the challenge. I think we agree mate. Anyway, enjoy your riding and keep that throttle pinned 🙂
A word that arose in the early 90’s was ‘Hyper’ , this isn’t a sports bike, a ZX10 is, it isn’t a Tourer, that would be the GTR, 😂 challenge for you, take the 14 up to 170 mph and open your visor and mouth and see if you can keep your tongue planted firmly in your cheek 😉
Kawasaki boast and I belive it if the road from London too Glasgow was straight enough you would do the run in 2 hrs 480 miles ??? And what nerves you would have after that not a boys bike
It is a poseurs bike for people who make TH-cam videos. Too big and expensive to be fast on the track and too expensive to run for a tourer? Where have you "toured" to, if you go to south Italy you need new tyres and a service to come back.
Why do you say things like “Kawasaki have?” You pair plural-style verbs with singular subjects all the time and it’s incorrect and odd. Saying “Kawasaki have” is just as wrong as saying “I has.”
I think they labeled it as a Touring bike so you can get a better Insurance rating on it the ZX10 is expensive uninsurance cuz it's labeled as a sportbike if you label it as a Touring bike it's a little cheaper on your insurance
Hi! This video is very interesting! I'm thinking of buying a zzr1400 and I'm only concerned by its behavior in turns. I already have a zx10e so I'm not expecting something that agile, but I'm afraid that this could be too heavy and not be fun to ride in the mountain Twisties… again I'm not expecting a 600cc or a 1000cc… Can someone give me feedback? To give you more information, the other bike in the list, cause I've tried it, is a caponord 1200, which is a very good bike, but I don't like it as much… Thanks
Hi! This video is very interesting! I'm thinking of buying a zzr1400 and I'm only concerned by its behavior in turns. I already have a zx10e so I'm not expecting something that agile, but I'm afraid that this could be too heavy and not be fun to ride in the mountain Twisties… again I'm not expecting a 600cc or a 1000cc… Can someone give me feedback? To give you more information, the other bike in the list, cause I've tried it, is a caponord 1200, which is a very good bike, but I don't like it as much… Thanks
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Hey Everyone, thanks again for watching, I understand this video will get a mixed reaction.
If any of you have ridden a ZZR1400 and a 1000 SX in the past, or maybe a CBR650R, let me know what you think as they're a completely different riding experience imo. The ZZR for me has more resemblance to a super sport than a tourer from the bikes I've ridden, but I'm curious to know what you all think from your own experiences. 🙂👍
See my reply to m.w.
I currently have a Z1000sx which is a sport tourer. I think the ZZR is confused with a touring bike as you don't need to drive round the city in 1st gear like you so with the ZX6R or ZX10R.
Definitely been considering this as my next bike. Shame you can only get the 2021 model in the UK now.
I just traded my ZX6R for a ZX14R. Both are of fairly recent year. I would have to say the 14R is comfortable but still a super sport motorcycle at heart.
Very light on her feet for the weight. Also the weight is nothing for how much ability the bike has. Excellent suspension and brakes, and a very strong engine.
I have ridden touring and sports touring motorcycles and the 14R is way more capable. Infinitely so.
I'm so happy I got the 14R. 💚
It's actually a hypersports tourer. That's why it's in a class of it own. 🤣
I have a 2012 zx14r and you're absolutely right it's a sport bike it's a hypersport bike
Its definitely a sort bike i just traded my 2021 kawasaki concours on 2023 zx14 totally different bikes like you said its very comfortable great review
I've owned a ZX-14R since 2012 and as to whether it's a sport-tourer or a supersport I would say ... it's both. On weekends I treat it as a sportbike, ride it up the mountain roads hard, it's easily capable of keeping up with my friends' liter supersport bikes. On long rides, I put a tail bag on it and ride hundreds of kilometers fast and comfortably. On a supersport bike I had (a 2018 Honda CBR1000RR Fireblade SP1), riding long distances was painful.
ZZR 1400 is a sports Tourer , As is the Honda Blackbird !😊
I have a ZX14R.. love it.. it's big fast and torquey!. For my 59yr old body it needs bar-risers and footpegs lowered to be 'sport tourer'. Passenger was not comfortable for extended rides. It IS a sportbike but won't keep up with the 1000's on the track because it's so big and heavy. I'm King of the Road on this thing ! Cheers
The video is Very informative… I Love the Zx14 and I will be purchasing one ASAP !!!
I just rode my 2022 ZX-14 up from Dallas to Grand Rapids, Michigan in 2 days and I had absolutely zero problems doing 500 miles a day on the bike….except for the fact that the bike was super bored just puttering along at 4500 rpm and 75 mph. I hadn't ridden in 20 years, but I used to do long trips on my 1993 ZX-11D I had back then and it was also very comfortable. I'm 6'2 and weigh 240 and the Kawasaki's have always made big bikes for big guys. I've ridden the new Hayabusa and it's a beast, but nowhere near as comfortable as the big Ninja.
you can call it whatever you want, my 2015 zzr1400 is my personal green missile, it is awesome in every way, and after 7 years it still surprises me and makes me grin in my lid every time i ride it.. it is blisteringly fast, supremely comfy and growls like a demon… it’s a keeper.
I agree with you! I would call it a sportbike with comfort settings, it's a reason why many use it as a school bike on trackdays
Agree 100% mate. I do everything on mine, from commuting to attacking the bends. It does it all and, on the road, very little will stay with it when you want to "Push the envelope" 🙂
I would class the zzr1400 as a super sport tourer.
Reasons why this bike isn't a sports bike.
Too heavy. Sports bikes are made as light as possible.
Too long, you can not go round short bends on this bike and is more adapted for drag racing than track racing.
When I bought this bike, it was sold on the website as a sports tourer.
You brought up the Busa, well the Busa was made to best the blackbird, a sports tourer.
The foot pegs are not as harsh as a sports bike.
The seat is too wide and comfy for a sports bike.
The revs are too quiet for a typical sports bike.
A sports bike to me is simply a bike that looks like a sports bike, which you can tour on, which as you said, you can tour on. If I toured on a pure sports bike, I would need hospital treatment for a week for my bad back and wrists.
One thing we can agree on. This is one of the best bikes and value for money bike ever made. I use mine for everything, going to work. Speedy weekends, and long distance.. It is a bugger for petrol though, anyway. Great arguments put forward.. 👍👍👍
Also just to add, ride this bike and ride am H2, you will definitely know which is the real sports bike..
Very well described!
You are completely right. To bad the manufacturers don't make more sport bikes that are for the street rider. Most of us will never be on the track, but want a sport bike and not a street legal race bike. When I looked for a bike when I was getting back to riding none of the sport bikes had any comfort to them. I ended up on the ZX14 and now am so happy that I did! Long live the King.
Being a big guy I didn't feel quite at home on a liter bike. After riding my friends busa I knew I had to make the jump. Luckily I was able to sit on a busa and 14 side by side. After finding and researching the 14 I was leaning towards it but knew how the busa felt. When I sat on the 14 I was blown away at how comfortable I was. When I rode it out the lot in Orlando and drove it home to New Orleans I knew I made the right choice. I think it is easily the most comfy sport bike. It is just all around an excellent bike. It is almost perfection by how balanced and smooth it feels and not to mention how cool it looks. I want to call it a sport tourer but that is what the concourse is. The touring version of the 14. So I think it is best called a supersport or hypersport.
I was under the impression that a sports bikes riding position is more aggressive, knees rammed under your chin and arse in the air style, with a single seat or with a small pillion area. Where as a sports tourer is a more "neutral" upright position, along with a big comfortable seat for both rider and pillion, making it much more comfortable for long runs. I mean; my bike, back in the day, was the nuts of the mutt. But viewed more of a sports tourer these days, since the production of newer and faster bikes. But that`s not so much a reflection of the way the bikes have changed. When they were introduced, they were damn fast, and they still are today... it`s just that the markets have moved on! I recently had a test ride on the new Suzuki GSXR1000 and BMW S1000RR, both thorough sport/race bikes. and I`m happy to say I ride a sports tourer... So, if my Yzf1000R is now a classed as a "sports tourer" your ZZR1400 must be a "Super sport tourer."
It seems that as a product, the ZZR1400 or ZX14R is advertised to best suit the market. Sports in the US may attract a higher volume of sales than pitching it as a Sport Tourer. If the market is buying X, they'd be stupid calling it Y. I think this is the wheel coming full circle. Sport tourers were the professionals in the sport class and touring class, combined into one machine. They were not the masters of either. The 80's into 90's saw the ZX10 (Tomcat) & the CBR1000F, both pitched as sport tourers. They were comparable to where the ZZR1400 currently sits among the manufacturers product range and directly in the same position amongst the capabilities of the range of machines today.
I fully agree, I believe this maybe one of the arguments till the end of time, I had the same debate with one of my work colleagues last year, till I sent him the advertisement for a sport tourer for this machine.
I think one thing we can all agree on, it's a dam fine machine. I've had a centre stand fitted to mine and now struggling to get decent cans fitted. In my opinion, the big black exhausts, such as are on my bike spoils the look.
@@snakeman9902 agree , first thing i did was getting new exhaust, the original looks awful.
@@hatorihanso1238 There are a few mods I want for my beast.. That definitely is one of them.. The cans have got to go 😂..
My insurance says it's a Sport Bike, wish it was classed as a Sport Tourer!!!
Crazy & insurance isn't even required here n fla
A hyper sport !!
before i bought my 2019 zx14r i was riding a 2001 katana 600 which handled very well because i took 3 years to rebuild and improve it. after getting the 14 i took 2 weeks to dial in the suspension for my weight and riding style. despite the increased weight it handles surprisingly well. i love the twisties. after owning it for almost 2 years she still can scare the crap out of me. the MOORE MAFIA tune on the ECU is awesome.
The handle bars can tell you it's not a sport tourer. The 1000 sx is a sport tourer. The handle bars are not high, and the foot pegs are high.
Correct! GTR1400 sport touring, zx14 sports bike! I have the GTR1400 and ZX12R. Very different power delivery between the two. I have ridden my GTR1400 on route66 and it was awesome! I don't think I do it on ZX12R just because of comfort...
I love my Kawasaki's!!!
In my opinion a tourer focuses on comfort where as a sport bike focuses on handling.
Hooray, someone has hit the nail on the head. ZX14R/ZZR1400 and GSX1300 = Sport Bike. It's just a bit more comfortable than say ZX10R.
A BMW K1600GTL is a sports tourer how ever wouldn't mind a GTR1400 is Blaze Green, never seen that colour in Australia.
Only bike i will ride from here on out.
lol...they do that to you.....awesome machines....
Thanks for the great review. I think you really hit the nail on the head with the ZX-14. As a middle aged man close to 60 years of age, I would say you are spot on. This bike in my opinion has a more aggressive riding position as opposed to a Sport Tourer. Would I buy the beautiful ZX-14 at my age? Probably not. Then again maybe. Oh to be young.🙂
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Do it ! i'm 73 and enjoy my ZX-14r.
I am 60 years old , I have just
Traded my 14r on a near
New 14r , with OHLIN'S Shocks
Brilliant bike , that do me for 5 Years
Don't make yourself old in the head
You know you can ride it , DON'T
Listen to riders that are not up For
It or not as good as you
Ps Before you say can you ride
This bike , well lots other riders
Tell me all the time , I hope I can
Ride as well as you can when I
Am your age , when you get older
You know your limits, this bike has
204 HP at the back wheels , to be
Truthfully, I am not useing the extra
Power , I have picked a few spots
And gave it to it in 3 Rd and 4 th
Wow , one Quick bike , out on open
Roads , Bumpy, rough , most 1000cc
Cannot keep up , you see the 14r
Weight is 260 Kg, it hugs the road
Bikes have got to light !
I’m 60 and bought mine in 2012 when the 1441 cc version was introduced. I ride it more than I drive my truck. Especially with these insane gas prices.
I'm still going along the lines of what I was first introduced to the bike as, and that's a Hyperbike... The GTR1400 is the true sports-tourer from Kawasaki using the ZZR gen1 engine.
You've picked a banging spot to do the vlog. I used to take my bikes and cars up to that layby and take photos of them during golden hour.
Busa is in a more forward leaning position. The ZX14R is better suited for long-distance touring. One of the reasons is that the cowling is big.
The easiest answer which shouldnt cause a debait is..... The ZZR1400 is whatever the owner wants it to be for them, we are all different, male, female and sizes, geographic locations and many other requirements. some say hyper touring, others sports, for me i have altered it to be one of my favourite bikes ever, the CBR600FY as ive lowered the pegs and double stacked the risers, now i have an everyday bike which is as comfy (for me) as the cbr600fy with shit loads of power. Amen! stay safe!
I wouldn't get too hung up on it, some will argue that an R1 over 10 years old is a sports tourer, such is the development of what constitutes a superbike. Of course the gtr fjr etc are pure tourers but the long wheelbase of the hyperbike class, and now lower HP/ heavier weight than a superbike tend to give it that st label. In the 80s this bike's ancestors the gpz900r gpz1000rx and then zx10 would have been considered superbikes but then the fireblade changed all that. It's certainly not a custom cruiser (or isn't it)? I know I want one.
Thanks for your point of view 👍
My 2017 Performance Sport is perfect on fast A roads but a bit of a handful (sometimes) on tight B roads in my area (rural Cumbria). Compare to my '98 ZX6R G1 that I've had for 22 years (!) Super capable on B roads that could be used on track no problem... That's why I have and use both. The rest is just semantics.
If it must be one or the other, it's a sport tourer. Although really it's in a very limited group of hyper bikes
I think a few of the arguments for it being a sport tourer don't add up. People say it's big, it's not that big. Then they say it's heavy, but if you look in the owner's manual it states the dry weight which isn't that far off say, a late 90's / early 00's race bike (most reviewers will add whatever fuel weight they deem fit and say it weighs 250KG though). It handles better than most of those bikes as well. Kawasaki probably just knew people who buy these are gonna do long distances on them so they made it comfy. Most folk say it's a sporty tourer but in reality it's more a tour-y sportbike. Tourers really are big heavy buggers.
Edit for; I'm kinda gutted it's a ZZR here in the U.K. as opposed to a ZX14R. I want 'Ninja' decals.
I've never ridden or owned one of these but for some reason I believe they are a bit of a "Hero" bike to me
How about Super sport tourer???
As Kawasaki says right in their videos this is a long distance sport bike.
Great vid.. real interesting.. thanks for sharing ..
Doing away with the "supersport" and "hypersport" distinctions
Tourer = preferable to long distances.
Sport = preferable to cornering.
Sport bike = zx25r, zx4r, zx6r, zx10r, h2, h2r
Sport tourer = ninja 650, ninja 1000sx, zzr1400, h2se
So while the tourers can do what sport bikes are made for they don't excell at it like the dedicated sport bikes do, due to their weight, seating position/ergonomics, and power delivery.
And while you Can put luggage bags on a sport bike, it's not designed for long distances (despite zx10r's inclusion of cruise control 😂). No body is wants to ride backpack on a liter bike for 3 hours straight.
Entry level bikes can be a combination of things because their purpose is to get ppl on 2 wheels. Namely, the ninja 400 (soon to be ninja 500). Sport touring ergonomics like the ninja 1000sx but lacks the power, weight and amenities to travel long distances. More like a commuter/city basher. The 400 can lead you into either a sport or a touring future.
Hi!
This video is very interesting!
I'm thinking of buying a zzr1400 and I'm only concerned by its behavior in turns.
I already have a zx10e so I'm not expecting something that agile, but I'm afraid that this could be too heavy and not be fun to ride in the mountain Twisties… again I'm not expecting a 600cc or a 1000cc…
Can someone give me feedback?
To give you more information, the other bike in the list, cause I've tried it, is a caponord 1200, which is a very good bike, but I don't like it as much…
Thanks
its a motorcycle multitool use it for what you are feeling on the day ,the best all round bike I have owned ,although not so good on on the gravel, but I DONT WANT A GS1200.
ZZR1400 I just love mine❤️ I have tryed busa to still I think ZZR is a bit better, that’s why I bought the ZZR
Who is tall and comfy on it? I'd like to know what heights/builds find it comfortable. They say this bike is great for tall men.
Linda moto!! Congra!!
Sport tourer it is, to cross continents... fast, smooth and stable.
I agree. Wish Kawasaki would put a quick shifter on it from the factory and shave some weight to compare with the busa.
It is faster than any standard Busa as it is.
what a color! Crazy!
The lineage is Kz, Gpz, Ninja...
I owned a 78 kz1000 and it was definitely a sportbike.
It's competition was the GS1100/1150 that later became gsxr's....I also owned a gsxr1100 when they came to the states in 86...Nobody in their right mind would say those weren't sportbikes.
The fact that the ZX series are Ninjas pretty much ends the discussion. All Ninjas are sportbikes.
Yes its NOT a sports tourer , but NOR is it a sports bike ,, its a HYPER bike , that's why I've owned the generation 1 and now the performance model.
Dose land missile count? Lol its definitely a heavy weight sports bike, they can hold they own on a track & great for drag racing, but then they are good for long distances riding & comfortable, so as they good at many thing i guess why there called hyper sports bikes? As is the hyabusa
it’s a Hayabusa competitor and diligent for long distance tarmac touring
Shhhhh!! You're gonna put my insurance up!!
If you're stuck in questions like "Is it sport, or tourer or sport-tourer?", then you're missing the point. Quite simply is a fkg awesome bike!
Calling the ZX-14R a Sports Tourer is like calling a Bugatti Veyron a family Sedan.
It's not a tourer. I did 1,400 miles in 2 1/2 days last week on mine. Handled great, both on the flat country and in the mountains. Great bike!
But my knees, back and neck tells me it's a sport bike.
I need a tall guys opinion. How high are the pegs? I’m 6’4” with a 36 inseam
Yes, me too .. somebody please answer!!! 👍👍👍
It's whatever the Fu?ck you want it to be it's your hard earned money. Mine is a 1441cc Scooter because that's how I ride it I'm the slowest rider you will ever encounter on a 14. 😁😁😂😂
It's a sport bike, for some reason people are confusing what the motorcycle is. What it is not is a track bike, it is a drag bike and is King of the 1/4 mile. No different than the 1970's Kaw 750 H2, just try and ride that beast on a track, doesn't turn and brakes sucked. They are built for speed, they are drag bikes. Kawasaki is the King of the road throttle on, they also make a decent track bike, but that never has been what riding Kaw's has been about. Kawasaki is about balls to the wall power/speed.
So its not convinient in long trip?
Whats different between zzr1400 and zx14r
None, they are the same motorcycle. Not sure why there are different naming schemes for the bikes in Europe and the rest of the world, I prefer ZX-14 naming personally.
Kawasaki makes the Concours sport touring with a 1400 cc engine.
In the US, the insurance is about half the cost for a "sport tourer." Thats a secret between you and me.
Maybe we have to call all the 600-1000cc “sport bikes” for “track bikes” then😁
Okay I want to clear things up for you somewhat here as it is clear you don’t know how to label your ZX 14R or ZZR 1400. In the simplest of terms for you here, these bikes are in the “Hyperbike class” the ZX 14-R is not in the Sports Touring Bikes. The Kawasaki concours is in the Sports Touring Bike class. The two main leaders on the market today in the Hyperbike class are the Suzuki GSX1300R Hayabusa and the Kawasaki ZX 14R or ZZR 1400 with the Kawasaki heading the lead out of the both. If you’re still confused as to what to label your bike I will upload a video and spell it out to you in simple English.
It's not an original ZX. ZXs have 2 separated seats for the driver and the passenger. Check out ZX12R for example. This is actually a ZZR, not a ZXR. ZZRs have always been Sport Tourers, not Superbikes (1000cc) and not Supersports (600cc). It is sad that Kawasaki call the ZZR a ZXR in USA. If they really want a proper Hyperbike and the successor of ZX12R, they better make one...
Don't really understand what you're driving at? It's a very very comfortable and tourable bike especially with bar risers or flat barred. This bike isn't considered a super sports anymore. BTW I speak from experience have ZZR1400 Performance Sport & a Gen 2 Hayabusa
Surely fitting bar risers and/or flat bars is turning the bike into a sports tourer?. I also dont believe that time changes what a bike is, a Ducati 916 is still a supreme sports bike even though it is supposedly outclassed by todays machinery. For me, the 14R is a supersports bike but as he said in the video, it is not a Race Bike, although a well ridden one will surprise quite a few around a track. I suppose that in the end, there is no definitive answer to the question. Just opinions, and we all have those 🙂
@@MichaelZZRrider We are going to have to agree to disagree, just about everyone in the UK & Europe put bar risers on their ZZR1400 (upto 30mm) and lesser so flat barring it. Lowering footpegs is less common but does get done but tends to screw the handling up as the pegs touch down way too easily. This bike is absolutely seen as a balistic touring continent crosser here
The ZX9 was the fastest production bike in 96 the year I bought my first ZX9 and she was a fat girl as well and it's so comfortable to go on Long rides when you have that bigger framed bike
100 percent street sports
But the Kawasaki brochure says ......Sport Tourer!😉 The Ninja 1000 SX is the same in Europe a Sports Tourer!!!!
And you're not in the US here!!!!😁
Hyper Sport Tourer!! Definitely not a Sports bike, you don't sit on them you lie on the tank and they have a postage stamp for a pillion seat. "Doesn't sound like a Sports tourer" Really? What does a Sports tourer sound like then? The Concourse or GTR 1400 may have a more up right seating position but it's down on everything else, power, brakes and handling. More of a tourer than a Sports tourer. As much as I love my ZZR 1400 it's a brute on tight bends, sure it reacts to input well but it also wants to sit up, whereas Sports bikes are point and stick, take tight bends like they're running on rails.
If that is the case then 99% of so called "Super Sport " riders cant actually ride, as that would be the only reason the 14R can stay with them on tight bendy roads.
@@MichaelZZRrider Don't see many ZZR 1400's/ ZX14's whooping Sports bike Ass on a race track? Yet they're renound on the drag strip!! One has no corners, perhaps that tells you something.
It's all about wheel base, I had a Triumph 900 Thunderbird Sport during the time when the GSX 1000 and the R1 were sporting the crown. I couldn't keep up on the straights but they couldn't catch me on corners. I find the opposite true of my ZZR it's like a rocket on the straights, loves sweeping bends but it just has too long a wheelbase for tight turns at high speed. I haven't tried a 55 profile rear tyre yet, that might improve turn in. Sure it handles very well for its size but it definitely needs constant input. Whereas previous bikes and my FZ1-S I just point and set.
@@michaellilley6725 I fully understand your point mate. The 14 is not a track weapon but a good rider can make it perform well. On real roads where one is not pushing at 100% because of limitations imposed by road surface, other vehicles etc the 14 can stay with most machines. Sure, you have to work harder but that is the challenge. I think we agree mate. Anyway, enjoy your riding and keep that throttle pinned 🙂
What it is is fucking epic
What is a touring bike?
The zzr is a sports tourer because it isn't a crutch m crotch rocket like a ninja 1000
In America it's upside down
sounds a lot like "the Fiend".
How bout calling it a hyper tourer has it will do long distances very quickly 🤣
Mine is a built sport bike because of mods .
You bought the wrong colour. They are best in black.
A word that arose in the early 90’s was ‘Hyper’ , this isn’t a sports bike, a ZX10 is, it isn’t a Tourer, that would be the GTR, 😂 challenge for you, take the 14 up to 170 mph and open your visor and mouth and see if you can keep your tongue planted firmly in your cheek 😉
Kawasaki boast and I belive it if the road from London too Glasgow was straight enough you would do the run in 2 hrs 480 miles ??? And what nerves you would have after that not a boys bike
I got it...It's a drag bike that you can tour on.
Sport bike for the street (real world) , why have a track bike on the street
Just to pick your use of the Queens English, is a bloody Sports bike and not a sport bike
Hypersport Turing 🤷🏻
It is a poseurs bike for people who make TH-cam videos. Too big and expensive to be fast on the track and too expensive to run for a tourer? Where have you "toured" to, if you go to south Italy you need new tyres and a service to come back.
It's a hypersport..
Why do you say things like “Kawasaki have?” You pair plural-style verbs with singular subjects all the time and it’s incorrect and odd.
Saying “Kawasaki have” is just as wrong as saying “I has.”
Hyper tourer lol
I think they labeled it as a Touring bike so you can get a better Insurance rating on it the ZX10 is expensive uninsurance cuz it's labeled as a sportbike if you label it as a Touring bike it's a little cheaper on your insurance
Hi!
This video is very interesting!
I'm thinking of buying a zzr1400 and I'm only concerned by its behavior in turns.
I already have a zx10e so I'm not expecting something that agile, but I'm afraid that this could be too heavy and not be fun to ride in the mountain Twisties… again I'm not expecting a 600cc or a 1000cc…
Can someone give me feedback?
To give you more information, the other bike in the list, cause I've tried it, is a caponord 1200, which is a very good bike, but I don't like it as much…
Thanks
Hi!
This video is very interesting!
I'm thinking of buying a zzr1400 and I'm only concerned by its behavior in turns.
I already have a zx10e so I'm not expecting something that agile, but I'm afraid that this could be too heavy and not be fun to ride in the mountain Twisties… again I'm not expecting a 600cc or a 1000cc…
Can someone give me feedback?
To give you more information, the other bike in the list, cause I've tried it, is a caponord 1200, which is a very good bike, but I don't like it as much…
Thanks