Mass Effect 3 Citadel DLC: James Vega Romance (All scenes)

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  • @goreycinema
    @goreycinema 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1260

    Someone needs to tell Shepard that there's a fine line between flirting and sexual harassment.

    • @SleepyKataphrakt
      @SleepyKataphrakt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      goreycinema All of the solutions are in the crewmember's pants

    • @niharikaprasai7812
      @niharikaprasai7812 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      loll

    • @therearenoshortcuts9868
      @therearenoshortcuts9868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      she can harass me all day... :)

    • @pocketheart1450
      @pocketheart1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      She often comes off as creepy when she flirts, in all three games, but especially the second two.

    • @LordKinoda
      @LordKinoda 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hey, the galaxy is literally, potenially, about to end. Shooting your shot for one more good time seems reasonable.

  • @MassEffectDeception
    @MassEffectDeception 11 ปีที่แล้ว +917

    No romance for you, Lola, now check out these ripped back muscles.

    • @SethTheArcanine
      @SethTheArcanine 10 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      This is my favorite comment. Ever.

    • @Psyberologist
      @Psyberologist 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Hahahahaha that comment... Bravo.

    • @SpyHarms
      @SpyHarms 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      XD I was thinking the exact same thing! Too funny man, you deserve every one of them likes.

    • @adhamantlinSempiternal
      @adhamantlinSempiternal 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I swear, I still can not recover from his rejection. But worst of all is how Bioware handled this uncomfortable thingy. That side of FemShep is horrible. Still waiting for a dlc to fix this which I know It'll never happen. Bioware broke me xD

    • @LadyStoneheart312
      @LadyStoneheart312 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Seriously lol my heartbeat got a little faster when he took off his shirt. Bioware was downright sadistic with Vega. By far the hottest guy in the franchise and you can't romance him.. but you still have to see him work out in front of you and show off his muscles and talk in that sexy voice of his. Fuck me

  • @sweetsummarain
    @sweetsummarain 10 ปีที่แล้ว +794

    Shepard goes from Commander to creepy cougar in like five seconds.

    • @jRex918
      @jRex918 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I like it lol

    • @SusanaCanales1
      @SusanaCanales1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Kelsey Howell lol aren’t cougars in their 30’s or older? Shepard is in her late 20’s and James is also in his 20’s. Probably mid to late. Not saying this wasn’t creepy! I just wasnt sure that cougar was the accurate term.

    • @SoulessStranger
      @SoulessStranger 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@SusanaCanales1 Well Shepard is 32 by the time of the Citadel DLC and James is around dunno 24-26 (we dont know the date of birth sadly but know he is younger) so it kinda fits for the cougar shtick :-)

    • @johnmclellan2257
      @johnmclellan2257 5 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@SoulessStranger ehhh, 32 but Shepard was dead for 2 of those years so they don't count

    • @bolikde9389
      @bolikde9389 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You mean Milf ? ;D

  • @gundamnmechas8518
    @gundamnmechas8518 9 ปีที่แล้ว +519

    the thirstiest Shepard's ever been in Mass Effect, except for maybe Samara

    • @4thdimension760
      @4thdimension760 8 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      Samara went "I'm too matronly" on me too :(.

    • @gendoruwo6322
      @gendoruwo6322 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      makes perfect sense if Shepard got dumped by Jacob.

    • @ROrneli
      @ROrneli ปีที่แล้ว +1

      and jacob Tayl;or? that poor guy kept pushing sheppard away and she kept comming at him all creepy like

  • @davidshepard-alenko4232
    @davidshepard-alenko4232 9 ปีที่แล้ว +289

    this is so predatory and uncomfortable and just awful on so many levels ::squirms::

    • @eanon2316
      @eanon2316 8 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      +David Shepard-Alenko It's almost rape, sexual harassment at its best.

  • @cloudgirl150
    @cloudgirl150 11 ปีที่แล้ว +408

    So he rejects her offer for sexy time then takes of his shirt in front of her? Now that's CRUEL Vega!!!

    • @LordMarvin1993
      @LordMarvin1993 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      so he was dressing provocatively? XD

  • @TheScottishMexican42
    @TheScottishMexican42 9 ปีที่แล้ว +652

    What if Shepard's plan all this time was to get some eggs?

    • @iceking416
      @iceking416 9 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      Then Shepard would literally be me.

    • @PB-Trinity
      @PB-Trinity 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      +Ice King Hooking up to get food ? I definitely have to use that one someday...

    • @MrDremorus
      @MrDremorus 9 ปีที่แล้ว +190

      +TheScottishMexican42 "How do you like your eggs?"
      "Fertilized."

    • @gorkemkavak1965
      @gorkemkavak1965 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gotta get those egg white omelettes

  • @keytone333
    @keytone333 10 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Well even Javik's one-night stand was more natural than that.

    • @fr3nchyfier811
      @fr3nchyfier811 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      It seems there is one thing primitives are good at.

  • @360firedevil
    @360firedevil 9 ปีที่แล้ว +383

    I'm pretty sure James can sue her now

    • @Ir0nF1st924
      @Ir0nF1st924 9 ปีที่แล้ว +77

      +we'll bang okay Your comment and your username are sending mixed messages.

    • @360firedevil
      @360firedevil 9 ปีที่แล้ว +56

      Ir0nF1st924 That's how I roll

    • @earllanders7159
      @earllanders7159 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      lmfao

    • @KSAlejo
      @KSAlejo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +46

      Nope. Spectre business. Operation Fire... cobra... claw.

  • @KarinaSokulski
    @KarinaSokulski 10 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    lol Ashley's sitting next to this conversation thinking, "Well this is uncomfortable..."

    • @KarinaSokulski
      @KarinaSokulski 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's funny because it wasn't until a second play through (after putting that comment) that I FINALLY witnessed those two together haha

    • @melossage
      @melossage 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That miranda dancing though

    • @KarinaSokulski
      @KarinaSokulski 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know

  • @lilyfeather4472
    @lilyfeather4472 10 ปีที่แล้ว +611

    Ugh, this is creepy. I mean, James is hot and all, but practically forcing him to sleep with you just feels wrong. I wish Bioware made this a better romance :/

    • @Starlight_N7
      @Starlight_N7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      God I know! I could not agree more. I hate it

    • @rezrezas
      @rezrezas 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't worry, James is big boy, he can handle it

    • @blazypika2
      @blazypika2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      or sam romance where she talk about a hot date and you just enter her shower when it's not 100% clear she's even talking about shepard.

    • @canadian__ninja
      @canadian__ninja 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@blazypika2 if you didn't realize she was talking about Shepard I don't know what to tell you. She was only barely trying to be subtle. The Vega hookup is just wholly uncomfortable, and unwanted by him

  • @ottokylanlahti8930
    @ottokylanlahti8930 9 ปีที่แล้ว +312

    "What would it take to convince you, James?"
    His WTF face is priceless! xD

  • @rachymn7883
    @rachymn7883 9 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    Fem shep: Well bang okay
    James: No ...ma'am
    1million drinks latter
    James: yes Lola

  • @BlimeyGames
    @BlimeyGames 10 ปีที่แล้ว +203

    I didn't like how I couldn't avoid my Shepard from flirting with Vega. I wasn't romantic with him but she would flirt with him all the time and it was really out of place. Though I don't' see how he couldn't' have been a true romance option. I didn't like him at first when I started the game (I thought he was a forced-beefcake character), but once you get to learn more about him he's really sweet and a decent character altogether. Shepard kind of turns on this sort of pervy cougar persona around him. I like that she's confident, but she kind of like...harasses him a bit haha.

  • @Healoz
    @Healoz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +474

    Wtf. Holy crap femshep calm down. No means no!

    • @RTRT-ZAM
      @RTRT-ZAM 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Healoz LOL!
      I'm telling u. Well we can look at the bright sides of things. She got a little some some..

    • @jamesvega3711
      @jamesvega3711 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I thought I told lola my tat was for her eyes only

  • @TheCPonder7
    @TheCPonder7 9 ปีที่แล้ว +571

    I actually feel bad for James, pressured into sex with his commanding officer. I loved the Citadel DLC but this has to be one of the worst writing points in the entire game, like BioWare completely forgot who Shepard is as a person. The fact that he was reluctant actually makes me like him though. Maybe I'll give him a chance.

    • @JailBreaker903
      @JailBreaker903 9 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      That comment doesn't make any sense since Shepard is whoever you want him or her to be.

    • @janespitz4045
      @janespitz4045 9 ปีที่แล้ว +107

      Jack Black She (or he) is the hero of the entire galaxy, she's smart and knowledgeable and in control whether she's renegade or paragon, in all her other romances she's supportive and flirty and a little awkward, this was straight up "take your clothes off that's an order", that isn't her no matter how you play.

    • @CatroiOz
      @CatroiOz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Morgan From Michigan or Shepard is a murderous psychopath that completely lost her mind and cracked under the pressure of all the galaxy resting on her shoulders in ME3. She starts to murder and destroy anything that appears as a threat even when it doesn't make sense (Samara's daughter for example).
      See ? you can interpret Shepard in many different ways

    • @alexandrojavierpinto2501
      @alexandrojavierpinto2501 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Maybe because it's just a *FANSERVICE* DLC?

    • @luf4rall
      @luf4rall 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      As if renegade options don't exist to be a shitty person.

  • @roseJ96
    @roseJ96 7 ปีที่แล้ว +119

    1:59 James is looking at the player like, "Why are you doing this to me?"

    • @bioticheart
      @bioticheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Romancers: "Stop being so hot then!" Lol.

  • @Nevi234
    @Nevi234 10 ปีที่แล้ว +586

    Jesus, this was creepy. She basically pressured James into doing it with her. He's so uncomfortable...

    • @Matt561
      @Matt561 9 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Nevi234 Shepard is pretty damm intimidating

    • @rachymn7883
      @rachymn7883 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +Matt561
      yep gurrus me2 "straight for the TIE BREAKER"

    • @aigoocentric2739
      @aigoocentric2739 9 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      +Nevi1097 What could be more romantic than hearing a guy tell you he would have to drink a LOT of alcohol and even then it's just going to be once...maybe. haha

    • @darcrequiem
      @darcrequiem 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      +Nevi1097 She basically date rapes him.....

    • @mightymateo3
      @mightymateo3 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      +darcrequiem it all makes more sense if you watch his movie. she is pretty much his hero

  • @ingejoosten8618
    @ingejoosten8618 11 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This is so awkward omg
    My favourite part is ashley trying really hard to pretend she didn't just hear that

  • @TheBrokenScale
    @TheBrokenScale 10 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    This whole romance seems very rapey ... like, just think about how this would seem if this scene played out the exact same way, but with a male Shepard and like, Tali or someone.

    • @omiorahman6283
      @omiorahman6283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Bioware and ea would get a lawsuit if it was the other way round

  • @xcrstfallenstrx
    @xcrstfallenstrx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +328

    This romance needs an end scene added in, because this is literally shameful. James was worth more. He deserved better. His character was so rich. A great edit would be if you don't coerce him into sleeping with you at the party, in the final battle when you talk to him, he kisses you, he's definitely a now or never kind of guy, and says something like, "I just don't want to never have done that". This verifies that yes he does in fact return Shepard's feelings, and lets the player imagine a future after all the bullshit.

    • @SCREAMILLUSION
      @SCREAMILLUSION 8 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      If only. He and many others were wasted romance/involvement wise sadly.

    • @xcrstfallenstrx
      @xcrstfallenstrx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      That's very true. I'm also slightly creeped by the Edi/Joker ship. I mean really, Edi is the Normandy, and Joker finally gets to love on the ship in a literal sense. It's weird.

    • @SCREAMILLUSION
      @SCREAMILLUSION 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      xcrstfallenstrx
      I cannot say that one didn't surprise me haha, I like them together but I was worried she'd use the body for evil more so or the body being in the A.I core would some how hack into Edi and use the ship to kill us.

    • @xcrstfallenstrx
      @xcrstfallenstrx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Yeah, there was the risk of that, but short of choosing the synthesis ending, Edi essentially is an inanimate object, she's the Normandy. It didn't really strike me until I was on my like 20th playthrough. At first I thought it was sweet, until I really watched a lot of the Joker cutscenes from the earlier games and realized just how obsessed he was with the normandy, and then it got creepy.

    • @SCREAMILLUSION
      @SCREAMILLUSION 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      xcrstfallenstrx
      Yeah but he is Joker.. I just accept it. I'm more pissed her gets Edi and yet we didn't get James and when we do it's a really creepy rapey unlike Shepard type of way to do it -.- when the female Shepard she flirts with him all the time like it makes no sense... :/ and Bioware really gave a middle finger to us all that wanted that.

  • @sersvati
    @sersvati 7 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    "You okay James?" Uh no you just harassed him into sleeping with you

  • @olivercfzhou
    @olivercfzhou 11 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    Vega is somehow more awkward than Garrus.
    And Garrus rigged Shepard's coffee machine to blow up.

  • @janespitz4045
    @janespitz4045 9 ปีที่แล้ว +177

    I LOVE James Vega, but not like this, I wish he'd been an actual romance option, not just some DLC one night stand add on. I love that female Shepard is so confident and just goes for it in all her different romances but this was more awkward than Garrus in ME2, and that's saying something. In all other FemShep romances she's supportive and flirty and a little awkward, here's she's pushy and like aggressive towards him, that's not who she is as a character no matter how you play.

    • @Dylamn
      @Dylamn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's literally harassment

    • @TheNocturnal1
      @TheNocturnal1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Dylamn it’s I’m Renegade so suck it up!

    • @EternalNightingale
      @EternalNightingale 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TheNocturnal1 ah literally it fits so well with a renegade shep her face all scared glowing red eyes being all seductive with her voice, I’m always laughing/ cringing when she starts being flirty lmao too bad Kaiden friend zoned me so I went with Vega cause it was too hilarious, but for a paragon fem shep Kaiden is your best choice def

  • @kimberley6794
    @kimberley6794 10 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    I really don't like this part of the DLC because Shepard had to get him so drunk that he would forget she is the commander so he'd sleep with her. But yet when you have Ashley he tries to hook up with her and says hot stuff to her in spanish why couldn't femshep get that? But no she had to come off as desperate to get Vega into bed with her

  • @JordanSeyz
    @JordanSeyz 11 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Vega seriously looks like he doesn't like where this is going

  • @brettwood140
    @brettwood140 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    James has a permanent expression of "what the fuck is happening?"

  • @seatbelttruck
    @seatbelttruck 8 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This is so creepy. Not Ok. This is the one romance I will NEVER do.

  • @BabyKrogan
    @BabyKrogan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Femshep, why you so rapey? D:

    • @myinnerhobbit
      @myinnerhobbit 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      You made me snort laugh.

  • @Larkawolfsgirl
    @Larkawolfsgirl 9 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    Is it just me or does Femshep seem to have completely different personalities in each romance?? Male Shep seems more uniform

  • @kitthomas7965
    @kitthomas7965 9 ปีที่แล้ว +48

    I like Vega, even though he's a bonehead. The mentor-protege thing always made the idea of him as a romance option awkward, but if they had done it well, the rookie learning to see his hero as a person and them getting each other through the Reapers, he could have been a fun love interest.
    Then I saw this. They could not have made that more uncomfortable unless the last thing you saw before they were in bed was Shepard picking him up off the floor and promising to help him to bed. He's uncomfortable at EVERY stage of this, he's never really enthusiastic just morbidly curious after she pesters him and gets him drunk, and he looks as if Shepard is murdering his childhood. It makes me like him more, that he clearly knows he doesn't really love "Lola" like that. It makes me hate Shepard for pushing the issue. It was like Clone Shepard took over to traumatize her crew. Bad fan service. Bad BAD fan service.

  • @kaoruikuya6734
    @kaoruikuya6734 11 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    Shepard: What would it take to convince you James?
    James: We're talking about sexual harrassment and I DON'T have to take it!

  • @Motherdragon64
    @Motherdragon64 8 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    It really is concerning that some writer at Bioware actually thought this was okay, and no one objected to it. What the fuck.

    • @Motherdragon64
      @Motherdragon64 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Watch the video and pretend Femshep is Maleshep and Vega is, say Traynor or some other female character who you normally can't romance. This is a date-rape. But because it's the woman raping the man, it's funny and humorous. Screw that.

    • @9inchtablet
      @9inchtablet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I don't see how it's rape regardless of the gender of either people. It's not like James was so drunk that he couldn't consent. He knew what he was doing and remembers his actions in the morning, so he couldn't have been that drunk. It would be date-rape if Shepard put something in his drinks or forced him to get drunk to the point his body was borderline in shock.

    • @kissthesky951
      @kissthesky951 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Yeah I don't see it as harmless flirting, I mean he did consent but she still wouldn't take no for an answer and she came of as creepy and pushy.

    • @EditedAF987
      @EditedAF987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@9inchtabletit doesn’t matter if drugs weren’t involved, Shepard still pressured him into it. Pressured consent is not real consent.

    • @9inchtablet
      @9inchtablet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@EditedAF987 I see your point

  • @RocktheSocks
    @RocktheSocks 11 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Watch "Paragon Lost". Vega chose to save his romantic interest and the military intel she had over his squad. He always blamed himself for what happened. It makes sense that he'd avoid romantic entanglements in the military again.

    • @twinodoom
      @twinodoom 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never stopped some of us with Ashley/Kaiden

  • @Healoz
    @Healoz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Huh, I'm not sure bioware knows what flirting is.

    • @GameNerd346
      @GameNerd346 5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Which is funny because their games are very much known for their flirt dialogue options and romances

    • @cupknee
      @cupknee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      she is just as cringe when she comes onto Garrus. luckily he was into it but it made me wanna cry because of how bad it was, that i decided to never romance garrus

    • @bernietea
      @bernietea 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maybe it's an Alberta thing 🤷‍♂️

    • @EditedAF987
      @EditedAF987 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@cupknee at least in the Garrus romance, Shepard attempts to reassure him by saying that if he isn’t comfortable then he shouldn’t feel pressured into sleeping with her.
      Here though? She goes all in on the pressure and just completely disregards Vega’s feelings.

    • @AstarionWifey
      @AstarionWifey 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cupknee that’s sad
      You missed out on Garrus ❤️

  • @amywilliams3053
    @amywilliams3053 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    That was creepy as hell and everything but I couldn’t even begin to take anything seriously after that Dancing Miranda in the background. Absolutely slayed me and I don’t know why

  • @commentor504
    @commentor504 10 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Shepard sounds mad thirsty!! I would never romance James if it took all that

  • @pocketheart1450
    @pocketheart1450 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Shepard is always such a creep when she flirts lol. She comes onto him SO HARD. And then she gets him drunk to sleep with him. Wow, this did not age well.

    • @percussionfellow6168
      @percussionfellow6168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know right, what the fuck were they thinking?

    • @trisar2146
      @trisar2146 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It ages worse the further into the future you are, but frankly, it wasn't great when it came out!

  • @purplesky99876
    @purplesky99876 8 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I feel like the bioware writers have no idea what romance is....
    I mean...
    For starters ladies and gentlemen, no means no.

    • @MS-fh4sz
      @MS-fh4sz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hey man real world here. Truth is women can and will get away with almost anything as long as they are hot. Thats how the world works right now. Also when is the last time anywhere. Have you seen or heard a man calling rape, or sexual harrassment on a hot chick. PERIOD. Not saying its right. It just is

    • @purplesky99876
      @purplesky99876 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +frank terrell Attractive people no matter the gender get away with a lot. Rape/sexual harassment targeting men is a barely talked about issue in general--not just for hot girls. My best male friend was sexually harassed by one of my female teachers in 8th grade. He told me and and his uncle/guardian but he thought he should just go through with it--said that he was lucky. I was against it because he was uh ...fucking 13 years old. It's been years but I still think about that so often and how fucked up it was. He was too afraid to go to the principal--not because of getting her in trouble --because of people thinking he's weak or "gay".

    • @MS-fh4sz
      @MS-fh4sz 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      well said you conveyed my point better than I did.

  • @singingpigeons
    @singingpigeons 10 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I feel like James could have reported FemShep to HR.

  • @SelinaHazel
    @SelinaHazel 10 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    So much potential that was wasted. Femshep doesn't have as many love interests to begin with, Kaidan even went bisexual, and although there's some chemistry between Vega and Shepard from the start, they couldn't be bothered to turn him into a love interest? Pathetic.

    • @NoisyTumbleDryer
      @NoisyTumbleDryer 10 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      Yeah always struggled with that with my Shepard, would stick with Liara but options are real limited aside her & Garrus. Couldn't understand why Kaiden went bisexual when Ashley didn't, would only have made sense if both did seeing as if you kill Kaiden & Ash doesn't go Bi then thats 2 potential love interests gone in one go!
      I dunno why Jack wasn't bisexual, she even mentions having a girlfriend before yet femshep can't romance her. The Jacob romance is terrible seeing as he leaves you for Brynn & Thane goes and dies anyway, romances aren't that great for femshep :(
      You can try with Samara as a female but she'll turn you down. I always stuck with Liara, but that was mostly because of lack of options & by time Traynor was introduced as a potential love interest Shepard is already pretty locked in a romance already. Maleshep has more than he knows what to do with (Liara, Tali, Jack, Miranda, Ash, Kaiden, Kelly etc)
      Still, i'm almost always playing a femshep, Jennifer Hale is just perfect, love her voice so much :D

    • @SelinaHazel
      @SelinaHazel 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I think Kaidan went bisexual simply because so many wished for it, I guess since Ashley isn't that popular with most people they didn't do the same to her, or maybe it was just dumb prejudices and stereotyping, since Kaidan is seen as soft and sensitive, which is a typical gay/bisexual stereotype when it comes to men.
      In any case they should've stayed fair and make both of them bisexual or give femshep another love interest to balance it out.
      Jacob is a poor excuse for a love interest, and it feels like you have to coax him into the whole thing to begin with.
      Thane dies, and oh lord, how disgraceful his death is handled if he was your love interest. Plus, you didn't even get a date with him before he dies.
      Liara was never interesting enough to me, I always thought of her more as a little sister, so I pretty much always romance Garrus, and I'm totally glad that they decided to make him a love interest because I love him and the relationship he has with Shepard to death.
      But yeah, femshep > maleshep. I'd never dream of not playing as a femshep, Jennifer Hale is a goddess!

    • @IamWalkingDead1
      @IamWalkingDead1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      But Ash is a tomboy who is foul mouthed and is a fighter... She would be a great stereotypical lesbian :P

    • @Pustekuchen7
      @Pustekuchen7 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And it is kind of sad... (SPOILER!) in the end of mass effect 3, i could see, that vega was kind of in love with my shep, i think. when liara and james left her.. is was kind of cute but very sad.. romantic.. i hate that shepard dies in the end.. ore is tehre an other possible ending?

    • @IamWalkingDead1
      @IamWalkingDead1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If you have over 4000 war assets and choose the destroy ending and have the extended cut DLC, your romance interest or Liara instead of putting your plaque on the names of the fallen board simply look at your name then smile, and then the camera goes to earth under a pile of rubble and you hear Shepard take a breath, implying s/he is alive and they know it

  • @makara4615
    @makara4615 9 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Damn your voice Jennifer Hale. Damn your voice!

  • @Envious_envy
    @Envious_envy 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    After their "scene" James looks like a scared kid in bed, lmao.

  • @kagudarzell4571
    @kagudarzell4571 9 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    ..... i .. i... whaaaat !?!?!?!? they deserved so much more !! why make a creepy romance ??... haaa

    • @petrusion2827
      @petrusion2827 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's not creepy at all, it's called blowing off steam

    • @Serenity2Witchs
      @Serenity2Witchs 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      +Just Petrusion Not so much if one of the participants has to work themselves 'up' to the boot knocking.

    • @LubaLowery
      @LubaLowery 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad I'm not the only one who thinks so. It's creepy as hell.

    • @RyrienaHoustonBorn
      @RyrienaHoustonBorn 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      +Just Petrusion it is creepy she basically forced him to have sex 👎🏻

    • @ChiakiNanami736
      @ChiakiNanami736 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      +Sarah Johnson The whole time I'm watching, I'm thinking, "If the genders here were reversed, BioWare would have been in so much trouble there'd be no more Mass Effect." Bugs me big time.

  • @TheBasedTyrant
    @TheBasedTyrant 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It suck's how male shep get's a ton of serious romances and fem shep basically whore's herself out to any other love interest besides garuss or Kaiden, everyone else needs a lot of convincing but liara doesn't really count in my opinion

  • @FifthofEleventh
    @FifthofEleventh 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Man. In the actual Navy? This is worth so many UCMJ violations, and like, twenty GMTs.

    • @MrSpottednoble
      @MrSpottednoble 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Glad I made my Shepard a Spectre, then!

    • @FifthofEleventh
      @FifthofEleventh 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      With all due respect, our Navy, (hell, military in general) is huge. If fraternization were commonplace here, morale would go straight to hell.

    • @ShadowFlipsy
      @ShadowFlipsy 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hauke Holst Germany here i come .... wait do they permit atleast some equipment personal chose cuz what i know Delta force permits some. I like using light boots helps with mobility

  • @roadhouse6999
    @roadhouse6999 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I had a nickel for every time two characters in a sci-fi universe were on a balcony, sand was mentioned, and then one of them did something really creepy, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but it's weird that it happened twice.

  • @FluffyNinjaLlama
    @FluffyNinjaLlama  11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can't be romancing anyone else for this to happen.

  • @Fairybongmother
    @Fairybongmother 8 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Thank you for making this video! My Shepard romanced Kaidan in #1 stayed single in #2 and am planning reuniting her with Kaidan in #3. Then I saw James and those arms. I am a sucker for arms. Glad I don't need to waste time with him and can stick with the original plans of Kaidan. Although if Joker was an option...

    • @xcrstfallenstrx
      @xcrstfallenstrx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      I would romance Joker in a second. I really wish the game had made him an option!

    • @rosaliejonathan6539
      @rosaliejonathan6539 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm like 2 years late but yeah. Kaidan's a good guy, but Joker is the man. But sadly he's more interested in EDI even if we asked him about the possibility between Femshep and him.

  • @GeekRemix
    @GeekRemix 11 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    This was really creepy.

    • @bioticheart
      @bioticheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But not Maleshep sleeping with every woman including a teenage Quarian.

    • @GeekRemix
      @GeekRemix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@bioticheart Tali was 23 in the first mass effect

    • @GeekRemix
      @GeekRemix 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@bioticheart Also im sorry but it really seems like you didn't play the games. because male shep can only canonically romance one person each game just like femshep. A woman not getting consent is really terrible and comparing it to dating an adult quarian dismisses the issue. Society needs to take woman on man assault seriously.

    • @bioticheart
      @bioticheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeekRemix Oh my bad. I should have checked to be sure.

    • @bioticheart
      @bioticheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@GeekRemix Mari, I've played all 4 games several times. And from what I remember both genders can romance with someone and then cheat on them therefore having relations with two people right? Also you are right, consent is important and I have always agreed with that point that female on male assault is real and a problem like any other assault. It wasn't my intention to minimize the issue I just felt like to say Femshep leans predatory is harsh and unfair when she never crosses a line with James in that way. Was she overstepping a little? Absolutely but as soon as he shuts her down she backs off. Also Maleshep can romance with the consort and Diana Allers alongside a romance. But at the end of the day there needs to be more equality all around with both genders.

  • @NatzKulz
    @NatzKulz ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "We'll bang ok? THAT'S AN ORDER."

  • @HunterKiller762
    @HunterKiller762 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Is it weird that Shepard's voice turned me on because my name is James?

  • @patrickdeoliveira75
    @patrickdeoliveira75 8 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    Imagine if maleshep did this to Samara

    • @wa5019
      @wa5019 8 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Samara WILL kill him, or, at least severely injure him.

    • @LunaticLK47
      @LunaticLK47 8 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Well, Shepard is technically a vorcha, so he could regenerate. :P (two points if anyone gets the joke)

    • @daddymcdoob7862
      @daddymcdoob7862 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Lunatic LK47 Sheppy, get the fuck outta here

    • @MeAndMira
      @MeAndMira 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@LunaticLK47 even Tali confirmed it, when she gets drunk on the Normandy in ME3 after you deal with Sanctuary she will tell Shep not to say ah because they sound like a Vorcha

  • @WellWoopdidoo
    @WellWoopdidoo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    And so Shepard curls into a fetal position, her face buried into the pillow as she tries to bite back her tears. The past several years, the changing cast of friends and allies and lovers, the constant fighting and running and the weight of incessant political machinations all became etched into her furrowing brow, her care-worn face crinkling with her desperate, hollow realisation. He was embarrassed. To him, this was an awkward one-night-stand with a superior, and frankly senior, officer. And to her, what was it? A shameful attempt to claw back the last few years that she had given for the sake of the galaxy? A vindication of her own humanity? Or perhaps petulant, grasping vanity. Whatever it had been, it was now sat heavy with the hangover to become bile at the back of her throat.

    • @WellWoopdidoo
      @WellWoopdidoo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Biting her lip and clenching her fists, she pushes herself from the bed and stands, glancing at the room with bleary eyes. Her steel toe-cap boot clinks against the collection of glass bottles as she recalls glimpses of the night before. Opening bottle after bottle, trying to find every excuse to hand him another beer. Any toast, any drinking game or challenge... Did that make her a bad person? She sighes deeply when she realises that she can't tell anymore. Why had she done this? She knew he wasn't interested, and deep down neither was she. Maybe it was just the jarring feeling of being told no that had driven her to perusing this so doggedly, all night pushing, asking over and over again. Commander Shepard doesn't take 'no' for an answer. Well, she thinks as she kicks off her boots and stumbles to the bathroom, maybe this time I should have just taken the 'no'.
      I don't know why I wrote this. It is four in the morning and I can't sleep. XD

    • @tantanpou
      @tantanpou 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      *claps* Beautiful! Do you write fan fiction and/or original stories?

    • @tigttfn
      @tigttfn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      This was awesome and more real that this "romance." I can't believe the writers thought this ok!!

  • @Zepheera
    @Zepheera 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It's funny, while playing the game a year ago (and many times since!) I never really considered the possibility of a James romance beyond noting that he wasn't one. Having watched this though, I can see why a lot of people wanted one. His shy/sheepish/over the shoulder glances are absolutely adorable.
    To bad fshep went all predatory on him. You'd think the devs would have learned their lesson with the Jacob fiasco.

  • @KankuChan
    @KankuChan 11 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    When put all together like this, it seemed a little creepy.

    • @BluePlasticStraw
      @BluePlasticStraw 11 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Seriously. It's not so much "romance" as borderline sexual assault. No means no Shepard!

  • @monandoboi7360
    @monandoboi7360 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    James: Ah, I'd need to forget you were commander Shepard for starters.
    Harbinger: ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL!

  • @dragonieprayer
    @dragonieprayer 11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    shepard always gets what she wants 8D

  • @Kaaxe
    @Kaaxe 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    respect for James gained.
    Disturbed but intrigued by Shepard

  • @Tyler171819
    @Tyler171819 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Screw this shit. At least Javik gave consent. (And actually enjoyed himself)

  • @Galaxy_Arts23
    @Galaxy_Arts23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So happy I was already romance to Kaidan during this scene. I had no idea Shepard could be so creepy to poor James. Like he basically sees her as Anderson, his role model. How Shepard sees Anderson. Then to see this makes me uncomfortable.

  • @SrMichaelBucket
    @SrMichaelBucket 8 ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I fucking- I-
    I made a femshep SPECIFICALLY to romance James AND THIS IS HOW THAT ENDS?! SERIOUSLY?! OH MY FUCKING GOD!
    A 12-year-old fangirl could write a better romance than that! Femshep was one step away from strait-up roofie-ing him! GOOD LORD, BIOWARE!
    Here's a better idea in under a minute:
    Femshep spends some time with James, bonding with him, getting to know him, finding common ground and interests. Through this, James begins to see that this hero that billions, including himself, idolize is just as human as everyone else (figuratively, of course.) He gets to know a Shepard that the galaxy doesn't and gets into a state of relaxation around Shepard that allows him to accept a developing relationship. THEN THE ADVANCES START AND THEY AREN'T CONFUSING AND RAPE-Y! They're mutual, heartfelt, and easy to transition into for the player. It also dosen't have to end in sex. It can, but I find that this particular one shouldn't.
    They put WAY too much focus on trying to get the player with Liara to the point of turning her clingy and making all other options shit, even if the player would rather have a strait femshep.
    Damn it, Bioware. Fuck you.

    • @dmsviola1
      @dmsviola1 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, if you're looking for a straight femShep romance, you're going to get shafted. One option is an asshole who cheats on you as soon as you're gone. Another is a beautiful romance destroyed by an incurable disease. The other is essentially dating a plank of wood. Then there's Garrus, eho many people consider the only option, but I think parts of this romance were ruined as well. Like, why do they HAVE to try having sex? Garrus even said he's not into humans, and I personally don't find Turian biology titillating, so it all felt so forced. I dunno. They could have done better. :l

    • @NickaLah
      @NickaLah 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      This could be why I ended up feeling like romance in Mass Effect kind of sucks overall... although to be fair Dragon Age 2 was lacking in some ways as well, just not quite as bad. But in Origins and Inquisition I felt like I had much better options... and you interact more.

    • @NickaLah
      @NickaLah 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yet, what's strange is that when fans of both series voted for the best options for romance, I think Mass Effect still won? People go on and on about Garrus and Fenris... and although I fangirl a bit over each of them... you don't necessarily get as much quality interaction as the other games :-/ I'm hoping Andromeda significantly improves on romances...

    • @jrtomlin1805
      @jrtomlin1805 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I disagree about DA2. You really can't beat the Fenris romance. It was fantastic, one of the best they've ever done, better than any in DAI imo. And you certainly have to interact with Fenris to romance him. :)
      I liked Garrus a lot but couldn't see romancing him.

    • @dmsviola1
      @dmsviola1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      ***** The physical stuff made it a tad weird with Garrus, but his personality more than makes up for it, haha.

  • @DishonourablePastry
    @DishonourablePastry 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    1:40 James: I need an adult!

  • @enjoythestruggle
    @enjoythestruggle 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "I won't do you unless I'm really drunk... But I'm going to flirt with you like I want you on every occasion I get, and you won't even have the dialogue options to not go along with it!" What a terrible romance.

  • @ViperliciousOG
    @ViperliciousOG 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for postinging all of these (:

  • @vulcan_ears1663
    @vulcan_ears1663 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I was really hoping that I didn’t remember that scene being like that. If it had been mshep with a female crew member, it wouldn’t even have passed as an idea. It’s sexual harassment and sexual assault. Someone telling you no to all your advances and then you sleep with them when they’re drunk enough is assault.

  • @JennNeko
    @JennNeko 11 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    lol Shep told James to get his ass in the kitchen and make her something XD priceless!

  • @BeautyXTwisted
    @BeautyXTwisted 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I kept my Shepard’s flirting lighthearted enough it felt like two pals joking around. I hate how there’s even an option to force James into sleeping with her.

    • @excalibur8073
      @excalibur8073 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      same
      this whole encounter was weird felt cringey and uncomfortable
      my shepards are mostly focused on mission and stuff so i dont reallty do romances

  • @dieterus99
    @dieterus99 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Little Jimmy Vega's scared of the great Commander

  • @phoenixstorm28
    @phoenixstorm28 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    so they did it with their clothes on

  • @wheelyjon
    @wheelyjon 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is looking less like a romance and more like workplace harassment and misuse of power. A bit like male Shepard completely ignoring Jacks reactions in Mass Effect 2.

  • @mikepage0429
    @mikepage0429 11 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Shepard... why so raepy?

  • @swertooo
    @swertooo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Vega clearly was uncomfortable with the whole thing and only got pressured into it after being drunk, even says "lets not mention this again" after they wake up as though it was something he really wasn't into. Although ironically this is a good example of someone abusing their position of power over someone to do something they really aren't into.

  • @coreypearson4
    @coreypearson4 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    "hey james i have feeli-" *strips*
    (tilts head) "uhh never mind....hey....drink? or 12?"

  • @DarkNeochan
    @DarkNeochan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My only solace is the fact everyone sees this for what it is: fucked up 🤣 Seriously: pressuring a subordinate, checking on him regularly, making sure the drinks are flowing... Uuuu My Shepard needs Garrus to keep her creep in line it seems

  • @bulaluigi
    @bulaluigi 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    lol king of mixed signals right here. 'Sorry Lola, not interested.' *takes his shirt off*

  • @Zidana123
    @Zidana123 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1:44 just imagine this bit with monster-face renegade shep XD

  • @xoIAmNoonaxo
    @xoIAmNoonaxo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    There was such potential here!!!... and then this awkwardness happened. Shepard comes across a little "desperado" in this branch. It was such an afterthought I kinda wish they never bothered :(

  • @deldob
    @deldob 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So after the first scene James see the sandbag and began to hit it. Then you can do pull ups and try to beat his pull up record. (182 or 183 I don't remember) It takes about 10-15 mi to do it and then you got a small bit of dialogue. I did it while romancing Liara though. It's nothing important and it takes a shitload of time to get it (Because doing the pull ups is boring )
    Just in case you didn't know :)

  • @crashpal
    @crashpal 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    James Vega is Love. James Vega is Life.

  • @myrenzowhittaker8757
    @myrenzowhittaker8757 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Damn, FemShep.
    Would totally hit it.

  • @kirate96
    @kirate96 11 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Femshep be a dominatrix lmao

  • @cassandra9581
    @cassandra9581 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Shepard's creeping me out in this scene...

  • @hattrickster33
    @hattrickster33 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I'd rather have Grunt than James. If they're gonna do it this half-assed, don't bother doing it at all. James respects Shepard, leave it at that. Grunt would at least be interesting, even though femshep might get killed in the processXD

    • @AnimeKittyish
      @AnimeKittyish 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      honestly, since Grunt is technically a year old, I'd've preferred Wrex.

    • @hattrickster33
      @hattrickster33 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Zianne Rachels lol at least Grunt isnt an old fossil though plus his voice and that laugh he does is badass

    • @stxrgxzers
      @stxrgxzers 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Wut?! Grunt is Shepard's baby!

    • @stxrgxzers
      @stxrgxzers 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wut?! Grunt is Shepard's baby!

    • @stxrgxzers
      @stxrgxzers 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Wat?! Grunt is Shepard's baby!

  • @ROrneli
    @ROrneli ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mean i know sheppard is a spectre and hence the laws and rules dont apply to her. but she is commiting text book abuse of power which is a court martial offense.
    Lola(sheppard ) is a commisioned officer of the Navy. Vega is an enlisted or maybe low officer . and the way she comes at him .. imagine if the roles were reversed and sheppard was a guy and Vega a hot female officer. ..
    I am all up for it but both Vega and Jacob is court martial material.
    They both even mention been uncomfortable about their commander approaching them sexually.

  • @mesicaldc
    @mesicaldc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I always thought that James was super sexy because of his muscles and his hardcore personality. It's a shame that you can't really have a romance with him. Well I guess I'll just settle for Kaiden. -.-

  • @Chino56751
    @Chino56751 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Jennifer Hale's voice is amazing.

  • @jordanrutherford3771
    @jordanrutherford3771 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Jesus, I can barely watch.

  • @ginnoveffect
    @ginnoveffect 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Poor Ashley, sitting right there, hearing everything.

  • @ichigokurosaki4961
    @ichigokurosaki4961 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    someone fired the reaper beam.

  • @Unihuahua
    @Unihuahua ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really sad they wrote her like this and I feel awful for James. Imagine if male shep did this to one of his female subordinates...

  • @AndromedaKai
    @AndromedaKai 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It sure took a lot of convincing...

  • @991Weeman
    @991Weeman 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lol at Ashley listening to their conversation.

  • @gandalftheswag
    @gandalftheswag 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Awkward...and I thought Garrus had trouble with human 'customs'.

  • @jamesvega6813
    @jamesvega6813 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    THANK YOU!!! Someone finally got me

  • @FrogOven
    @FrogOven 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    7/10 not enough James x M!Shepard.
    11/10 got free eggs.

  • @RunningBlade2184
    @RunningBlade2184 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    James seems like a not dim witted version of Joey from Friends.

  • @CharmingIceDS
    @CharmingIceDS 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    You know... He's kinda cute. Not that I care, I go for Liara and Samantha. :P

  • @lqflfiqmls
    @lqflfiqmls 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love how he is so shy when Shepard flirt with him and I'm glad we finally get to see his N7 tattoo.

  • @Draksinger
    @Draksinger 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The terror in his look. Brilliant.