Lol he leaves Ash cause she distrusts Shepard in ME2 and the start of ME3, as if Kaidan doesn’t do the exact same thing. Biden is such a hypocrite on these videos, and for that cardboard cut out for a character Kaidan? I swear on every AI Presidents video i see, Biden has the worst takes i’ve ever seen. Bro even supported Jane from The Walking Dead in one video
@@tarheelpro87 it's funny because it's probably 1 guy making all the decisions, but by splitting perspectives into 3 he gives every situation a lot more depth
@@SpcyToast i know, that’s how it is, i remind myself that these rankings probably aren’t the TH-camr’s honest opinions. But i just notice this pattern that on EVERY channel that makes AI voiced presidents including this one make all the presidents pretty much the same character. But part of Biden’s character is his shitty takes. Presidents Discord Server, Presidents Play, others, i swear i just disagree with Biden the most. I agree with Trump and Obama interchangeably. Trump usually has the best taste in stuff, but Obama is more level headed and in depth when it comes to explaining his opinions.
Growing up was realizing that keeping the kinda cute soldier girl was not nearly as useful as keeping Kaidan whose sentinel class is extremely balanced while still having the OP useful powers
God damn, the AI voices have gotten so good. They still don't have as much emotion in their voice as normal people do, but holy shit is it close. Great work as always.
Tali’s romance and character really is the best, from being a young naive girl to a capable woman and leader. Her romance amplifies this, by allowing herself to something for her own wants, rather then focusing on the needs of her people, due to pressuring herself to live up to her father. That and she is so god damn adorable, what with her nervous school girl stutter and fan-girling over musicals And she got hips for days like god DAMN
I think she's the best pure romance, in terms of the time she gets to develop alongside Shepard and the emotional weight of the bond. Liara gets more time but it feels more hollow. Ashley has good emotional payoff but she gets less screen time to develop as a character, and all the other romances get as much or less time than this one. Tali is the only one who has it all and she's easily #1 waifu
@@b.sz.965 one prazza disobeyed her orders and went on ahead getting himself and his squad killed and two kreeger survives if you do the paragon interrupt which I always do because I’m not going to let a wounded man fight if he’s clearly going to get himself KIA
@@Lunarwolf57272 One could argue prazza disobeyed her command because Tali did not have the respect of her team. Personally I think he was just a bad soldier and paid the price obviously
Miranda (and yes even Jacob to an extent) were robbed of being able to be fully fleshed out romances with the bizarre decision to not make either of them squad mates in ME3.
@CubiStudios I still don't get why Bioware let Miranda join Shepard when the commander of the Normandy invades the Cerberus headquarters. I mean you're telling me that Miss Lawson wouldn't want some payback against her former employer
Speaking of Allers, I’m still pissed that they killed Emily Wong offscreen and brought in Allers as a journalist for the Normandy. Should’ve just kept Emily alive and had her take Allers’ place, cause at least then it’s someone you have at least some small connection with if you did her side quest in Mass Effect 1 instead of just being Jessica Chobot
they didnt mention it because of how pure cringe it is. A dude going to watch a romcom with his gf is bad enough for him but if his gf starts randomly singing the theme song he'd literally rather be anywhere else at that moment
@@GenericUsername-qp1ww Maybe the english version. The german one isnt cringe. Also her voice is even cuter in german and doesnt have this weird accent.
Thane deserves that top spot. While he's only in two games, his romance is maybe the most tragic and romantic. Just the phrase "Meet you across the sea" breaks me.
Tali has been the day one waifu. Her growth during the relationship is easily one of the best. Liara and Jack are close seconds for me, but engineer nerdy girl stole my heart in ME 1.
Goddamn it😂 Your profile pic got me fucked up. But yeah, Tali ftw and I got a little salty that I spent years trying to get my friend to play ME and I bought MELE and made her play it and on her first run she off’d the quarians and Tali.
Lmao I lost it at "Y'all hear that Jill Biden doesn't like other women cancel her." And also at the part where Melania goes straight to Kaidens throat with the romance lmao 🤣 these will NEVER get old.
Could have changed some things about Jacob like for example: Make him idolise his dad like a hero and that inspiration lead him to join the Alliance to be just like him but have subtle hints in his dialogue that there are cracks and signs that his dad may not all be cracked up to be. In addition, during his loyalty mission when he finds out what his dad did, he should lose his shit (big deal since he's normally cool headed and doesn't let things bother him) and condemn and swear at his dad for a monster he has become ( insert dark knight quote here.) Keep the Original 3 choices on how to deal with his dad but have Jacob completely disgusted and angry at him. After the mission, The player should decide how Jacob should deal with the grief of the "death" of his father; either outright disregard him and remember him as a evil, cowardly POS, remember the good things/ values he taught him or let Jacob decide for himself. This choice should show the changes in his character and be more open up to Shepard. His romance on 2nd and 3rd should have discussions about his fear of ending up like his dad and being a monster and Shepard can reassure him that he won't. 3rd game if his dad was arrested, there could be a side quest where Jacob might want to rescue him despite being still angry at his actions and it could end with Jacob pinned down from reaper forces, his dad, showing genuine remorse for his actions and want his son to live, will sacrifice his life to save Jacob. This could make Jacob re-evaluate his view on his dad, a heavily flawed man who still did the right thing in the end.
And just like that you made Jacob more interesting than a literal team of writers could. It's too bad the quest in 3 only works if his dad isn't dead since BioWare doesn't like making brand new quests to compensate when a key character to a story is dead, so they wouldn't have done it.
The world would be such a better place if they were actually like this. I wish we went back to the old system when the runner up would be VP so they’d just stay neutral instead of outwardly hostile
13:00. WRONG, Jack didn't abandon him. He sacrificed his life to save hers. They were in a heist together, and she got pinned down. He had two choices, either take the score and abandon her, or dump the score and save her. Her guilt was that she finally found one person in the Galaxy who loved her and she lost him.
BioWare really threw straight Femshep under the bus. Her romance options consist of a cheater and a terminally ill guy and a boring guy and a friendly lovable guy who can't give her children.
Finally more US presidents mass effect content. After discovering your channel I've tried the competition on TH-cam and no cap I've seen no other channels with dialogues this coherent and high quality; all the other channels make them speak like 15 years idiots on repeat. Good job buddy. Amazing quality
23:54 Well, you can also talk about future with Liara. Both in Shadowbroker DLC(wich, if you do, will be referenced in her final dialog on Earth) and on Presidium Commons(by kiosks on the right side of the map)
Morinth may kill you fast, but Jacob will kill you slowly with his cringe and infidelity. Holy shit thats how he looks in that mobile game? The galaxy sure went to hell after Shepard died.
I would also say that it almost feels like Liara is being pushed on you by Bioware when you're allowed to start a new romance with Liara in Mass Effect 3
Pass. He calls Shepard a traitor and despite wording the Horizon breakup like it's a breakup, he gaslights you into calling whoever you go for after cheating.
Miranda is S tier and, with romance, had the best character arc going from an ice queen to literally begging you to promise you’ll come back from the suicide mission only to get fucked over in ME3 more than any other character. I’ll die on this hill. Samara is S tier. A woman who’s lost everything and for a moment she shows vulnerability when she leans into the kiss in ME2 only to pull back. “In another time, in another life” was very literal and it’s a heartbreaking story of a woman who only knows her current way of life and can’t allow herself to stray from it due to prior trauma. And Samantha’s A tier. I like her mix of nerdy and assertive nature and it’s cute when she talks about a future with femshep.
And last note I love how each President and First Lady's relationship were all no sparred in this exchange lmao 🤣 should have more president's and first lady skits
Jack deserved much more in ME3. In her Tattoo scene, if you don’t go for the paragon interrupt she will exclaim that you are hers. I also don’t like how chill she is with the breakup. It is out of character. If anything I would expect Liara to be more chill with a breakup than Jack. Finally, aside from Tali, she seems to be the most loving to Shep despite not showing it much verbally. A very underrated romance. I also don’t agree that she should have been a romance option for femshep. I get it if she is available for a fling aka the renegade option, but not the full romance. It’s clear she is romantically interested in males even if she is sexually more open to both genders.
Also just a heads up to all viewers the biggest inspiration to why Garrus for Shep to dance is because it was a nod to James Cameron's True Lies It's a funny but also action flick from the 90s it's an homage to Arnold and Jamie Tangoing after the movie concludes
I usually don't really have any interest in hetero relationships for my protag (unless there's no other choice) but Tali for MShep and Garrus for FShep are so so so good, I could not NOT do their romances
Tali is always going to be my girl in these games! Liara is great, but she's too weird & distant for someone who's supposed to be your girlfriend, not just a friend you see, whenever circumstances allow it.
Bit of a shame that there’s no honorable mention of you being the wingman for EDI and Joker in this tier list. The way you’ve spent time throughout the game making her understand human nature and developing her personality is the sole reason why i ever feel bad for ever picking the destroy ending, not even Legion and the Geth had that impact on me.
Oh my god. Revisting this a year later, i just realized this is where Joe decided to kill Ashley in the playthrough Its writing like this that makes this channel great
I generally romance Ashley, and I enjoy it for the most part in comparison to the other ones as the rockiness makes the ultimate ending feel the most earned, and the ending on Earth when she tries to force her way into the final battle and trying to convince Shepard she can do it, and Shepard's "I know you can..." was a wonderfully emotional ending the fit her entire character and the growth she goes through in the course of these games literally perfectly. One of the few examples of good romantic writing in ME3 for anyone because the whole game is a crapshow of bad writing and everyone is worse off for it. Tali's great and a totally worthy relationship pick, but how can I take away Tali and Garrus as a couple from my top bro? That said, Obama makes a good point about her being too young seeming with the crush stuff, but I thought it was sweet too. She's great. The photoshop...eh. Hot take maybe but I didn't think it was as big of a deal as others. Miranda & Jack were both PRETTY well written, but the issue is just not a good amount of time spent with them and no worthwhile ending on Earth. Jack is a ton of fun when she calms down in ME3 and one of the few characters that feels like she actually improves in ME3, and to be fair if you break up with Miranda in ME3 her look of heartbreak is guaranteed to make anyone feel like the biggest POS in the history of the world. Liara is exactly what they said in the video and why I didn't like it. It felt like they were forcing it so hard on me throughout the games that I couldn't enjoy it. She is just too perfect. In my experience in real life that is just setting up for trouble down the line, so maybe it's a me thing. But I wasn't a fan.
MShep/Kaidan forever! Should have been ranked separately from the three-game FemShep romance since they're so fundamentally different, but I respect the First Ladies' decisionmaking. I will never understand the accusations that Kaidan being "boring" makes him a poor romance option. He is, above all else, a Good Man and the kind you want to take home to your Rear Admiral mom. Plus his perspective during the Reaper War is valuable, and his awkwardness in a fresh ME3 relationship is both realistic and adorable. And yes, BottomShep is canon.
I’m a Miranda simp, but I definitely feel like Liara is the canon romance. She’s open to both Shepherds, is down bad to the point she refuses to believe you’re dead and managed to bring you back. Plus definitely has the most romance content in the games
I never thought I’d hear the last three presidents and their wives talk about Mass Effect romances while using modern TikTok slang like “rizz” all in the same video.
Michelle: "there isnt much depth to her romance" Liara: *is literally the one responsible for stopping Shepard's body falling into the Shadow Brokers hands resulting in a critical mission failure for the entire galaxy and is the only female romance who insinuates about having kids with Shepard*
Ah yes Liara, the one who recover Shepard body from the collectors via shadow broker which is much appreciated and respected. But she gave him/her to Cerberus a borderline space nazis organization for no clear reason. A bullshit excuse to have Shepard work for Cerberus and ruining Shepard trust and reputation with Citadel council, The Alliance, and the virmire Survivor. I’m sure she has depth. (Im attacking the writers not her character)
@@RV513-vr9pm "But she gave him/her to Cerberus a borderline space nazis organization for no clear reason" did u even look into the backstory at all? who should she have given him to? the Alliance? Jacob straight up said that Shepard wouldve been put in a coffin if he hadnt been brought to Cerberus. Also Kenneeth pointed out the Alliance tore apart everything Shepard said and do u really think they'd be bothered to bring Shep back? especially if u saved the Council where the Alliances funds were likely being spent rebuilding the ships they lost in the battle for the Citadel. Furthermore there really isnt anyone in the Alliance as smart as Miranda who would b able to bring someone whose been dead 2 years back to life . Like it or not, Cerberus were the ones who had the funds and smarts to bring Shepard back to life.
@@GenericUsername-qp1wwI agree with you, but I’m saying why would liara even trusted Cerberus and why wasn’t it brought up in ME3. Before ME2, the only interactions Shepard and Liara had with Cerberus was in finding the terrorist organization’s horrifying experiments, and the devastating consequences they had on human life. It is hard to believe that Liara would turn to this group with only this information on hand, so we must assume that Liara had found other information in the meantime that led her to believe handing Commander Shepard to Cerberus would be worth the risk. I read the Mass Effect: Redemption, i get a few answers, but not enough to really explain it. There’s a glossing over of Cerberus’s past crimes, with Liara even defending them from being called a hate group. As I’ve said, I’m hating on the writers, and I really think you shouldn’t claim liara as great simply because of that reason. What she did was morally questionable and fact that the game protects her from it because it was never mentioned or brought up with other squad mates. Imagine this, I romanced Ashley who viciously accused me of whether I’m real or not in me3. Imagine if Ashley find out liara gave her dead lover to Cerberus. Or for any squad mates
Conviniently leaving out while Ashley tosses shade at Jack and Miranda, both humans, btw. She is pretty chill about Tali and thinks of her as a sister considering how close Ash is to her real sisters, thats high praise indeed.
Something that really made me tear up with Tali's romance was during Priority Earth when she gets injured during the charge to Sovereign. Shepard tells her to make a home for herself on Rannoch, but instead she says "I have a home" and just... god that broke me
Yeah, I don't see the appeal of Tali. Liara, Ashley, Jack, and Miranda made sense, but Tali just wasn't all that attractive to me. Cute, sweet, but nah, I'm good.
Yeah, I always go for the Tali Romance in my Maleshep playthroughs. For Femshep I go for the Liara Romance, even if I do think the Garrus Romance is thematically better.
An absolute masterpiece. Definitley need to discuss more npc rizz in the future, but I dont know if any other games go as deep into the romance as mass effect. Also bring in more consultants in the future, IDK if George and Laura Bush would be all that fun to listen to, but the Clintons should definitely be in here.
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“I’ll be leaving Ash on Virmire for my next playthrough”
Boe Jiden is about to play that mission on the presidents playthrough.
FORESHADOWING?!?!
He 100% does tho
Lol he leaves Ash cause she distrusts Shepard in ME2 and the start of ME3, as if Kaidan doesn’t do the exact same thing. Biden is such a hypocrite on these videos, and for that cardboard cut out for a character Kaidan? I swear on every AI Presidents video i see, Biden has the worst takes i’ve ever seen. Bro even supported Jane from The Walking Dead in one video
@@tarheelpro87 it's funny because it's probably 1 guy making all the decisions, but by splitting perspectives into 3 he gives every situation a lot more depth
@@SpcyToast i know, that’s how it is, i remind myself that these rankings probably aren’t the TH-camr’s honest opinions. But i just notice this pattern that on EVERY channel that makes AI voiced presidents including this one make all the presidents pretty much the same character. But part of Biden’s character is his shitty takes. Presidents Discord Server, Presidents Play, others, i swear i just disagree with Biden the most.
I agree with Trump and Obama interchangeably. Trump usually has the best taste in stuff, but Obama is more level headed and in depth when it comes to explaining his opinions.
Growing up was realizing that keeping the kinda cute soldier girl was not nearly as useful as keeping Kaidan whose sentinel class is extremely balanced while still having the OP useful powers
“Garrus legit calibrated shepherd to dance tango” i did not thought it that way 💀
FemShep an android? Oh no.
Just thinking the words "I have a home." Makes me tear up every time. If you know you know.
Oh yo, that scene legitimately hurt my heart 😭
😢
Dammit now you Made me want to re play the trilogy again
Everytime. That emotion hits.
it was so much better than "I love you"
2:30 Can't believe the crazy foreshadowing or psychic prediction, Joe must have done more then dipping into Hunter's stash.
"Don't worry, Barack, I'll voice your intrusive thoughts for you"
DAMN i nearly baptized my buddy with my Diet Coke over that shit 😂
I died laughing. This series is so good. I just played legendary edition and I can’t get over these videos haba
God damn, the AI voices have gotten so good. They still don't have as much emotion in their voice as normal people do, but holy shit is it close. Great work as always.
Michelle was uncanny for me
The guy who did the Zelda tierlists got the tone of them right.
Depends. I've heard a few pretty emotional sounding outbursts on occasion.
I'm just saying, Ashley was right about everything, from Udina being a snake, the counsel being self serving, and so on.
shes c tier at best
@@californiansniper2133A tier
@@californiansniper2133 I think you meant to say A tier
@@NeoSapphire so you think Ashley is as good Miranda your kidding right?
@californiansniper2133 no Miranda is above Ashley but not by much they are both good options
Barack: Next up we have Garrus.
All 3 women: S TIER!!!
This is both hilarious, and not surprising.
Yup. And Michelle even brought up the dancing thing! Still one of the best romances bioware has produced.
Tali’s romance and character really is the best, from being a young naive girl to a capable woman and leader. Her romance amplifies this, by allowing herself to something for her own wants, rather then focusing on the needs of her people, due to pressuring herself to live up to her father. That and she is so god damn adorable, what with her nervous school girl stutter and fan-girling over musicals
And she got hips for days like god DAMN
And it hurts like hell when Tali says "I have a home"
I think she's the best pure romance, in terms of the time she gets to develop alongside Shepard and the emotional weight of the bond. Liara gets more time but it feels more hollow. Ashley has good emotional payoff but she gets less screen time to develop as a character, and all the other romances get as much or less time than this one. Tali is the only one who has it all and she's easily #1 waifu
Capable leader? She lost 2 out of 2 teams during her missions in me2 before joining Shepard.
@@b.sz.965 one prazza disobeyed her orders and went on ahead getting himself and his squad killed and two kreeger survives if you do the paragon interrupt which I always do because I’m not going to let a wounded man fight if he’s clearly going to get himself KIA
@@Lunarwolf57272 One could argue prazza disobeyed her command because Tali did not have the respect of her team. Personally I think he was just a bad soldier and paid the price obviously
Miranda (and yes even Jacob to an extent) were robbed of being able to be fully fleshed out romances with the bizarre decision to not make either of them squad mates in ME3.
So was Jack
@@Megatron_95 Jack’s was still really good with only one game and she wasn’t as shafted in ME3 as she was part of a major mission.
@CubiStudios I still don't get why Bioware let Miranda join Shepard when the commander of the Normandy invades the Cerberus headquarters. I mean you're telling me that Miss Lawson wouldn't want some payback against her former employer
Why would we want Jacob back though?
I feel like Keiden and Ashley also git similarly shafted in ME2 Liara got a dlc dedicated to her why not those two?
Its nice to see Thane getting the respect he deserves. Absolutely belongs in S tier.
Man, Barack’s reaction to Miranda coming up was the *cherry* on the cake with Michelle’s reaction 😂😂
I laughed like an idiot when he did that
Believers in Liara supremacy may have lost a battle today, but not the war. We shall have our rightful S-tier, brothers!
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Cope. Tali is better. :)
I'm a liaramancer but citadel dlc arc of it is TERRIBLE. Tali aint much better.
Garrus FTW
@@212mochaman I wouldn't say Horrible, but I'll admit that Garrus's tango is very meme-worthy
Liara is freaky looking with that weird ass tentacle hair, Tali is cute af under the mask it's a clear choice.
Big W for Thane and Jack. Thanks for the acknowledgment
Yeah this was surprisingly good.
Speaking of Allers, I’m still pissed that they killed Emily Wong offscreen and brought in Allers as a journalist for the Normandy. Should’ve just kept Emily alive and had her take Allers’ place, cause at least then it’s someone you have at least some small connection with if you did her side quest in Mass Effect 1 instead of just being Jessica Chobot
How did none of them mention Tali singing? I mean, they correctly gave her S-Tier status, but it's just that extra bit
Because it's cringe
@@timothyfinch7295 YOU'RE cringe
@@timothyfinch7295 I've heard way worse to be honest.
they didnt mention it because of how pure cringe it is. A dude going to watch a romcom with his gf is bad enough for him but if his gf starts randomly singing the theme song he'd literally rather be anywhere else at that moment
@@GenericUsername-qp1ww
Maybe the english version. The german one isnt cringe. Also her voice is even cuter in german and doesnt have this weird accent.
Thane deserves that top spot.
While he's only in two games, his romance is maybe the most tragic and romantic.
Just the phrase "Meet you across the sea" breaks me.
Tali has been the day one waifu. Her growth during the relationship is easily one of the best. Liara and Jack are close seconds for me, but engineer nerdy girl stole my heart in ME 1.
And it hurts like hell when Miss Vas Normandy said "I have a home"
@@Megatron_95 How many times are you gonna post this lol
@@timothyfinch7295as many times I want to post it
what growth? Tali has never gotten any character development compared to the other OG members.
Goddamn it😂 Your profile pic got me fucked up.
But yeah, Tali ftw and I got a little salty that I spent years trying to get my friend to play ME and I bought MELE and made her play it and on her first run she off’d the quarians and Tali.
Jack finally getting the S tier she deserves 👏
“Never underestimate my ability to do things out of spite” bro I’m fucking crying
Yes. Tali deserves to be in S teir list
Once again .
" I have to use the restroom."
Ok sis
Liara is better
Oh my gosh I absolutely love Tali, she's a wonderful lady.
nope, opposite for me. Worst OG character
@@Zeitgeist2000 yup, Liara has far more and better character development than Tali
So Joe romanced Jack in-game and married Jill in real life. I see what ya did there.
And when you remember that Jack and Jill are kids in that old story it makes even more sense.
@@highlordlaughterofcanada8685 I know full well it checks out for Creepy Uncle Joe in real life, but dang it, that ruined it for me, lol.
The ladies too? Damn, this is going to be great!
Can we all agree that if Bakara was a romance option for Shepard she would be straight S-tier, no questions?
A sort of reverse Kelly situation cuz you KNOW she's gonna be havin a milliom Krogan babies
2:30
That foreshadowing of Joe was insane! 😂
Traynor is S Tier, the smartest, freakiest and yet somehow the most traditional romance out there. She ticks all the boxes for me when I play FemShep.
Same. Really disappointing to see her marked down here. It was the most wholesome future planning relationship with a fun and affectionate partner.
@@Skippy2Ton ... and she even saves the Normandy with a toothbrush, what more can you ask for? lol
I deadass accidentally went in the shower with her whilst trying to do a paragon garrus run
@@NormadYT lol, you had to know that was going to be trouble. ;)
Lmao I lost it at "Y'all hear that Jill Biden doesn't like other women cancel her." And also at the part where Melania goes straight to Kaidens throat with the romance lmao 🤣 these will NEVER get old.
The foreshadowing! 2:30
Jacob gets all the smoke in every video and I love it lol. F*ck that guy 🤣
"...gonna have him fight blue iron knuckles in Zelda II: The Adventure of Link."
Goddamn, Michelle torched Jacob's ass!
Could have changed some things about Jacob like for example:
Make him idolise his dad like a hero and that inspiration lead him to join the Alliance to be just like him but have subtle hints in his dialogue that there are cracks and signs that his dad may not all be cracked up to be. In addition, during his loyalty mission when he finds out what his dad did, he should lose his shit (big deal since he's normally cool headed and doesn't let things bother him) and condemn and swear at his dad for a monster he has become ( insert dark knight quote here.) Keep the Original 3 choices on how to deal with his dad but have Jacob completely disgusted and angry at him.
After the mission, The player should decide how Jacob should deal with the grief of the "death" of his father; either outright disregard him and remember him as a evil, cowardly POS, remember the good things/ values he taught him or let Jacob decide for himself. This choice should show the changes in his character and be more open up to Shepard.
His romance on 2nd and 3rd should have discussions about his fear of ending up like his dad and being a monster and Shepard can reassure him that he won't.
3rd game if his dad was arrested, there could be a side quest where Jacob might want to rescue him despite being still angry at his actions and it could end with Jacob pinned down from reaper forces, his dad, showing genuine remorse for his actions and want his son to live, will sacrifice his life to save Jacob. This could make Jacob re-evaluate his view on his dad, a heavily flawed man who still did the right thing in the end.
And just like that you made Jacob more interesting than a literal team of writers could. It's too bad the quest in 3 only works if his dad isn't dead since BioWare doesn't like making brand new quests to compensate when a key character to a story is dead, so they wouldn't have done it.
This would have made him b tier at least! You could also have the rivalry between him and thane be more explored
Can’t wait for this to come out especially the First Ladies being in on it as well 😂🤣😂
It was worth it!! 😂😂😂
Sometimes I feel as if they’re actually in a call talking about this it’s so on point it’s crazy
The world would be such a better place if they were actually like this. I wish we went back to the old system when the runner up would be VP so they’d just stay neutral instead of outwardly hostile
Ashley's lack of development is because her writers and designers were both replaced.
Kaiden is more like the cardboard cutout of a male side character in a harem anime.
13:00. WRONG, Jack didn't abandon him. He sacrificed his life to save hers.
They were in a heist together, and she got pinned down.
He had two choices, either take the score and abandon her, or dump the score and save her.
Her guilt was that she finally found one person in the Galaxy who loved her and she lost him.
BioWare really threw straight Femshep under the bus.
Her romance options consist of a cheater and a terminally ill guy and a boring guy and a friendly lovable guy who can't give her children.
This is where the fun begins
This isn’t Star Wars commander this is mass effect
It's a shame that they ignored that FemShep can romance Liara, as well. Saying that FemShep doesn't have good options except Garrus is just untrue.
Finally more US presidents mass effect content.
After discovering your channel I've tried the competition on TH-cam and no cap I've seen no other channels with dialogues this coherent and high quality; all the other channels make them speak like 15 years idiots on repeat.
Good job buddy. Amazing quality
Glad to see my girl Traynor getting the respect she deserves. She may not be S-Tier, but she's still my personal favorite romance in Mass Effect.
She really felt shoved in my face as if to make up for the fact that she didn't exist for the first two-thirds of the story.
AI Trump is pretty much always on point. 1) Ashley was right 2) Ashley is def S Tier.
"Don't kink shame me" 😂😂😂
23:54 Well, you can also talk about future with Liara. Both in Shadowbroker DLC(wich, if you do, will be referenced in her final dialog on Earth) and on Presidium Commons(by kiosks on the right side of the map)
Morinth may kill you fast, but Jacob will kill you slowly with his cringe and infidelity.
Holy shit thats how he looks in that mobile game? The galaxy sure went to hell after Shepard died.
This should be fun.
I would also say that it almost feels like Liara is being pushed on you by Bioware when you're allowed to start a new romance with Liara in Mass Effect 3
The dynamic in this was amazing. Great work!
This has to be your funniest video yet, man. I respect the effort put into this, keep it up!
Not putting Miranda in S tier is crazy
Joe really do be keeping his word with Ashley.
Kaiden is highly underrated as a romance and one of the few emotionally mature driven characters. Literally can see him on Garrus’ level or higher.
Pass. He calls Shepard a traitor and despite wording the Horizon breakup like it's a breakup, he gaslights you into calling whoever you go for after cheating.
Miranda is S tier and, with romance, had the best character arc going from an ice queen to literally begging you to promise you’ll come back from the suicide mission only to get fucked over in ME3 more than any other character. I’ll die on this hill.
Samara is S tier. A woman who’s lost everything and for a moment she shows vulnerability when she leans into the kiss in ME2 only to pull back. “In another time, in another life” was very literal and it’s a heartbreaking story of a woman who only knows her current way of life and can’t allow herself to stray from it due to prior trauma.
And Samantha’s A tier. I like her mix of nerdy and assertive nature and it’s cute when she talks about a future with femshep.
Tali is hands down S teir!! Anything less is Heresey!!!
And last note I love how each President and First Lady's relationship were all no sparred in this exchange lmao 🤣 should have more president's and first lady skits
Saren is a better romance than Jacob. He dies for you at the end of me1. Fight me.
Dudes writing is Shakespearean, no joking the writing for a presidential tier list is better than most movies
Jack deserved much more in ME3. In her Tattoo scene, if you don’t go for the paragon interrupt she will exclaim that you are hers.
I also don’t like how chill she is with the breakup. It is out of character. If anything I would expect Liara to be more chill with a breakup than Jack.
Finally, aside from Tali, she seems to be the most loving to Shep despite not showing it much verbally. A very underrated romance.
I also don’t agree that she should have been a romance option for femshep. I get it if she is available for a fling aka the renegade option, but not the full romance.
It’s clear she is romantically interested in males even if she is sexually more open to both genders.
Also just a heads up to all viewers the biggest inspiration to why Garrus for Shep to dance is because it was a nod to James Cameron's True Lies It's a funny but also action flick from the 90s it's an homage to Arnold and Jamie Tangoing after the movie concludes
I usually don't really have any interest in hetero relationships for my protag (unless there's no other choice) but Tali for MShep and Garrus for FShep are so so so good, I could not NOT do their romances
Tali is always going to be my girl in these games! Liara is great, but she's too weird & distant for someone who's supposed to be your girlfriend, not just a friend you see, whenever circumstances allow it.
I love the club afterlife music in the background ❤
Bit of a shame that there’s no honorable mention of you being the wingman for EDI and Joker in this tier list. The way you’ve spent time throughout the game making her understand human nature and developing her personality is the sole reason why i ever feel bad for ever picking the destroy ending, not even Legion and the Geth had that impact on me.
Agreed. On the same note, I don't romance Garrus or Tali because it's so cute watching them get flirty with each other in ME3.
Oh my god. Revisting this a year later, i just realized this is where Joe decided to kill Ashley in the playthrough
Its writing like this that makes this channel great
I think these are some of the best written interactions. You get all parties so on it.
Kaidan Alenko deserves S tier, after watching those pecs and muscles all beaten at the Huerta Memorial hospital.
Okay, Joe simping Jack is clever af, Jack.
thank you, I have so much fun watching your videos, I learn something new about this game I love!, and so funny!!
Harbinger accidentally joining: *We have come to knowledge that we shall leave... and never return to this planet EVER*
Samara is heavily underrated and I agree with Donald
Underdevelopped
Garrus is Weapons grade husbando material. Liara and Tali are the best female love interests.
I generally romance Ashley, and I enjoy it for the most part in comparison to the other ones as the rockiness makes the ultimate ending feel the most earned, and the ending on Earth when she tries to force her way into the final battle and trying to convince Shepard she can do it, and Shepard's "I know you can..." was a wonderfully emotional ending the fit her entire character and the growth she goes through in the course of these games literally perfectly. One of the few examples of good romantic writing in ME3 for anyone because the whole game is a crapshow of bad writing and everyone is worse off for it.
Tali's great and a totally worthy relationship pick, but how can I take away Tali and Garrus as a couple from my top bro? That said, Obama makes a good point about her being too young seeming with the crush stuff, but I thought it was sweet too. She's great. The photoshop...eh. Hot take maybe but I didn't think it was as big of a deal as others.
Miranda & Jack were both PRETTY well written, but the issue is just not a good amount of time spent with them and no worthwhile ending on Earth. Jack is a ton of fun when she calms down in ME3 and one of the few characters that feels like she actually improves in ME3, and to be fair if you break up with Miranda in ME3 her look of heartbreak is guaranteed to make anyone feel like the biggest POS in the history of the world.
Liara is exactly what they said in the video and why I didn't like it. It felt like they were forcing it so hard on me throughout the games that I couldn't enjoy it. She is just too perfect. In my experience in real life that is just setting up for trouble down the line, so maybe it's a me thing. But I wasn't a fan.
this was actually a really cool list with the wives
This was awesome. It’s easy to forget that these people would NEVER do anything like this IRL lol keep up the great work!
MShep/Kaidan forever! Should have been ranked separately from the three-game FemShep romance since they're so fundamentally different, but I respect the First Ladies' decisionmaking.
I will never understand the accusations that Kaidan being "boring" makes him a poor romance option. He is, above all else, a Good Man and the kind you want to take home to your Rear Admiral mom. Plus his perspective during the Reaper War is valuable, and his awkwardness in a fresh ME3 relationship is both realistic and adorable.
And yes, BottomShep is canon.
You're correct but I also simply cannot resist his voice lol
I’m a Miranda simp, but I definitely feel like Liara is the canon romance. She’s open to both Shepherds, is down bad to the point she refuses to believe you’re dead and managed to bring you back. Plus definitely has the most romance content in the games
JACK GANG FOR LIFE
jill absolutely ruthlessly destroying that mobile game portrait of jacob was the funniest shit i've seen in weeks.
I agree with Obama about Tali. She’s a great character for sure, but I always saw her more as a little sister than a potential romantic partner.
Agreed.
Great work. Can't stop listening to your incredible work, thanks.
This series is -absurdly- entertaining. Mor pls
I cant express how much i love all of these.
That Social Services line is what killed me in this video. XD
Honestly, the interactions are great
I never thought I’d hear the last three presidents and their wives talk about Mass Effect romances while using modern TikTok slang like “rizz” all in the same video.
i don't even know anything about mass effect, and i love these videos. kinda makes me wanna buy a code off g2a to play it.
Love the inclusion of the first ladies here. These just keep getting better and better.
Michelle: "there isnt much depth to her romance"
Liara: *is literally the one responsible for stopping Shepard's body falling into the Shadow Brokers hands resulting in a critical mission failure for the entire galaxy and is the only female romance who insinuates about having kids with Shepard*
And unlike with Samantha those kids will actually be both hers and Shepard's
Ah yes Liara, the one who recover Shepard body from the collectors via shadow broker which is much appreciated and respected. But she gave him/her to Cerberus a borderline space nazis organization for no clear reason. A bullshit excuse to have Shepard work for Cerberus and ruining Shepard trust and reputation with Citadel council, The Alliance, and the virmire Survivor. I’m sure she has depth. (Im attacking the writers not her character)
@@RV513-vr9pm "But she gave him/her to Cerberus a borderline space nazis organization for no clear reason" did u even look into the backstory at all? who should she have given him to? the Alliance? Jacob straight up said that Shepard wouldve been put in a coffin if he hadnt been brought to Cerberus.
Also Kenneeth pointed out the Alliance tore apart everything Shepard said and do u really think they'd be bothered to bring Shep back? especially if u saved the Council where the Alliances funds were likely being spent rebuilding the ships they lost in the battle for the Citadel. Furthermore there really isnt anyone in the Alliance as smart as Miranda who would b able to bring someone whose been dead 2 years back to life
. Like it or not, Cerberus were the ones who had the funds and smarts to bring Shepard back to life.
@@GenericUsername-qp1wwI agree with you, but I’m saying why would liara even trusted Cerberus and why wasn’t it brought up in ME3. Before ME2, the only interactions Shepard and Liara had with Cerberus was in finding the terrorist organization’s horrifying experiments, and the devastating consequences they had on human life. It is hard to believe that Liara would turn to this group with only this information on hand, so we must assume that Liara had found other information in the meantime that led her to believe handing Commander Shepard to Cerberus would be worth the risk. I read the Mass Effect: Redemption, i get a few answers, but not enough to really explain it. There’s a glossing over of Cerberus’s past crimes, with Liara even defending them from being called a hate group. As I’ve said, I’m hating on the writers, and I really think you shouldn’t claim liara as great simply because of that reason. What she did was morally questionable and fact that the game protects her from it because it was never mentioned or brought up with other squad mates. Imagine this, I romanced Ashley who viciously accused me of whether I’m real or not in me3. Imagine if Ashley find out liara gave her dead lover to Cerberus. Or for any squad mates
Michelle high key jelly of Miranda.
Remember she caught Barry thirsting over her in the M2 mission rankings
This video is S-tier!
Conviniently leaving out while Ashley tosses shade at Jack and Miranda, both humans, btw. She is pretty chill about Tali and thinks of her as a sister considering how close Ash is to her real sisters, thats high praise indeed.
Tali got S teir, that's all that matters
When I die play these at my funeral.
The Tali romance being S-tier makes me feel super validated.
Something that really made me tear up with Tali's romance was during Priority Earth when she gets injured during the charge to Sovereign. Shepard tells her to make a home for herself on Rannoch, but instead she says "I have a home" and just... god that broke me
It's funny how much alike I am with AI Donald. I love the Asari and I think Liara belongs in S tier and my favorite S tier class is Vanguard.
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Liara is best girl no doubt
I've been waiting for this!!
Yeah, I don't see the appeal of Tali. Liara, Ashley, Jack, and Miranda made sense, but Tali just wasn't all that attractive to me. Cute, sweet, but nah, I'm good.
Yeah, I always go for the Tali Romance in my Maleshep playthroughs.
For Femshep I go for the Liara Romance, even if I do think the Garrus Romance is thematically better.
2:30 the foreshadowing 😂
An absolute masterpiece. Definitley need to discuss more npc rizz in the future, but I dont know if any other games go as deep into the romance as mass effect. Also bring in more consultants in the future, IDK if George and Laura Bush would be all that fun to listen to, but the Clintons should definitely be in here.
Ain't no way Jack is above Miranda, that's just crazy, crazier than Jack
Prime this is one of your best!
Liara is S tier tho 🤨👍🏻
My mans wrote fire and fax the ENTIRE video!
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Joker: am I a joke to you?