Porsche 911 GT3 vs Lotus Evora 400 Acceleration SOUND & POV

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  • Porsche 911 GT3 vs Lotus Evora 400 Acceleration SOUND & POV
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ความคิดเห็น • 182

  • @AutoTopnl
    @AutoTopnl  7 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Porsche or Lotus and WHY?

    • @bravoelliot
      @bravoelliot 7 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      Lotus. The company has made a tremendous come back with this car....and it is British ;) Both cars are exceptional GTs though.

    • @knut761
      @knut761 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I'd take the English car in a heartbeat, I like to drive on track and on windy country roads.
      /The Virginian
      For a long road-trip however the Porsche would be more suitable.

    • @geuros
      @geuros 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Lotus, I believe it handles better, is more exclusive, for me looks better, HAS A MANUAL GEARBOX, sounds better... Porsche feels cold, but I fell in love with Lotus. My soul feels closer to Lotus

    • @Fluterra
      @Fluterra 7 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Compared to a base 911, yes; but not the GT3. GT3 is one of the best cars ever made. Destroys the Lotus, as good as it is.

    • @TheHesK9
      @TheHesK9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Fluterra Evora GT430 would be a good challenge. Evora 400 is a Carrera/Carrera S rival

  • @husqvarna2512
    @husqvarna2512 7 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    lotus gearbox looks very enjoyable

    • @Scorpio1075
      @Scorpio1075 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      husq varna, Totally agree... just watching him work those gears makes me want to buy one!

    • @Basics_of_Gameology
      @Basics_of_Gameology 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      SO SHORT AND PRECISE!

  • @RenoveAutoService
    @RenoveAutoService 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Interesting the Lotus!!!
    Amazing sound and look nice
    Less expensive than the GT3
    But the Porsche WHAT a car!!!

  • @AlvaritoChurch
    @AlvaritoChurch 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Lotus=beast

    • @yannick_m140
      @yannick_m140 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Porsche=monster

    • @goncalopereira7962
      @goncalopereira7962 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Y D Porsche=💩

    • @yannick_m140
      @yannick_m140 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pac Games Your Mom = 🐋

    • @randomdude9269
      @randomdude9269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goncalopereira7962 I agree. Porsche has the laziest design team in the world

  • @moimoi4725
    @moimoi4725 7 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Posches are dime a dozen. Lotus = uniqueness

    • @neitherlink6612
      @neitherlink6612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I don't think it's a good idea to pick a car based on how rare it is...

  • @jortepap
    @jortepap 7 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Evora 400 is fantastic drivers car but the GT3.. incredible!👌

  • @DarkTechno404
    @DarkTechno404 7 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Bad comparison. The lotus is closer to a cayman gt4. Clearly the gt3 wins here at every mark other than price.

  • @constantin4958
    @constantin4958 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I had the money for a 991 GT3, I would go for the Porsche. This Lotus is amazing too and I'm sure it's a seriously enjoyable car.

  • @Kaisuke971
    @Kaisuke971 7 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    They both sound awesome, but i think overall the Lotus sounds slightly better.

    • @constantin4958
      @constantin4958 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kaisuke971 Von außen ja ein bisschen, von innen siehts meiner Meinung nach jedoch anders aus.

    • @Kaisuke971
      @Kaisuke971 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      xConsti Idk the supercharger whine make it sound racier, kinda mimics the straight cut gear sound.

  • @spikem6039
    @spikem6039 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Looks = Lotus
    Sound = Draw
    Quality = Porsche
    I can't decide

  • @Rbrowno97
    @Rbrowno97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    The Porsche sounds and looks better, but I am always going to go with the car that has the manual transmission and more driver focused interior, and that means I'd go with the Lotus! :)

    • @derbigpr500
      @derbigpr500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ROFL "more driver focused interior". You obviously never sat in a 911, there's no car in the world with a more driver focused interior. Driving position in the Lotus is like a hatchback in comparison. 911 is a car that is perfect in every single way, Evora can't even dream of being decent in any category, let alone be nearly as good as the 911.

    • @Rbrowno97
      @Rbrowno97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      derbigpr500 I have sat in both a GT3 and many a Lotus actually, but thanks for the snap judgement. I prefer simplistic and minimalistic driver focused interiors, but that's just my opinion. No need to get butthurt dude lmao

    • @Rbrowno97
      @Rbrowno97 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ***** and great cars man! Hope you enjoy both! :)

    • @mrjdgibbs
      @mrjdgibbs 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From the look of it the driving position in the lotus reminds me of an old Ferrari.

    • @Basics_of_Gameology
      @Basics_of_Gameology 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lotus Exige!

  • @ronf28
    @ronf28 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two of my favorite cars.... you read my mind

  • @kyongslist
    @kyongslist 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    we all know from a technical and economical standpoint, and its just plain obvious, that the Porsche is the better all around car in nearly every aspect.....
    But in reality, the Lotus sounds way way better and is much more ingrained with passion and exuberance as a true drivers car.... They deserve a ton of credit given their history and what they have been through as a manufacturer, and they have a ton of rich racing heritage. Ive always felt like Lotus is extremely underrated and it breaks my heart to see them struggle and not be able to have the presence in the United States that they deserve. Id certainly take the Evora 400 over the Porsche (and believe me, as a lifetime Le Mans fan, im a huge Porsche fan at that) for the intangible reasons, and to be different.

    • @whyyousotriggered6050
      @whyyousotriggered6050 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kyong Hansen it's the history and the unique style of the lotus that sells it for me I currently have almost 10,000 dollars saved up rn at 16 I'm hoping by my mid 20s I can afford a used evora. It's my dream car I would take it over a Porsche any day

    • @BlacksheepLSX
      @BlacksheepLSX 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looking at what used 2005 porsche gt3s go for and used 2005 elises go for, it looks like Lotus holds its valur better.. then theres the reliablity and cheap parts for a blown toyota engine.. gimme the drivers car.. give me the Evora

  • @omarinayatullah3435
    @omarinayatullah3435 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome vid!! especially the passby sounds inside the woods part

  • @BossHoggJDH
    @BossHoggJDH 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A senseless challenges The porsche has more cv and The Evora has manual gearbox...
    To make a sensibile comparition they should have used the Evora 430...
    LOTUS KILLS👑💣

  • @dk7541
    @dk7541 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So hard to choose from at this point it really just comes down to the driver. I love both cars. Always love lotus and Porsche so for me it's a tough decision. I still go Porsche though. Just personal preference. I've dreamed of owning a Porsche since I was a kid.

  • @dcartellone2659
    @dcartellone2659 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I heard that sound at night I surely wouldn't believe it was a Lotus with a toyota engine.. Mighty impressive. Go Lotus. 😉

  • @ApfelmannYT
    @ApfelmannYT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    I like the GT3 best :)

  • @jhonleguizamo272
    @jhonleguizamo272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Lotus + manual = amazing

    • @spongeborgtheford4971
      @spongeborgtheford4971 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lmao lotus only makes cars with standard transmissions.

    • @randomdude9269
      @randomdude9269 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@spongeborgtheford4971 No they don't lol😂 you can literally get the same model with a dct...

    • @spongeborgtheford4971
      @spongeborgtheford4971 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@randomdude9269 I meant in general. Manuals have been the standard in Lotus cars since ever.

  • @martinosmorlandez3549
    @martinosmorlandez3549 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Evora 400 is the absolute base model. You need to spend another £60K for an Evora in that league

  • @porschegt2346
    @porschegt2346 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    That boxer howl from that gt3 at high Rpms is just intoxicating. Nothing quite like it.

  • @FernieAriel
    @FernieAriel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They both sound soooooo goooooooooood!!!

  • @mastero21
    @mastero21 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who knew a Camry could sound that good.

  • @DemozionFx
    @DemozionFx 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mooie video jongens!!

  • @HugoEscudeiro
    @HugoEscudeiro 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That GT3 is a nasty machine :D

  • @911gpd
    @911gpd 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There's a 100 000 € difference between those 2 cars. Incomparable.

  • @yahdudeist
    @yahdudeist 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Both amazing, but I would like an Evora please.. support the underdog 😁 exige bit more similar to GT3?

  • @slingertet
    @slingertet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    lotus all the way,fuck that damn beetle

    • @erkiiii-kun
      @erkiiii-kun 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beetle?

    • @slingertet
      @slingertet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      PorscheFreak18 the porsche = beetle

    • @JayisLoop
      @JayisLoop 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      why should it be a beetle ? thats like lotus=5 series

    • @slingertet
      @slingertet 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Egomanix I don't think you get it.....

    • @derbigpr500
      @derbigpr500 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I don't think YOU get it. That is, you don't get the engineering superiority of the Porsche over the Lotus, in every single detail the Porsche is a FAR better car. Not even a comparison, you have to be a totally clueless idiot to think Lotus has a chance in this duel.

  • @bobms5288
    @bobms5288 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool Video

  • @emiliofederici9459
    @emiliofederici9459 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't think it's fair to compare two cars that have a 50% price tag difference: here in Europe you can buy the Lotus, fully equipped, for less than 100.000€. The GT3 STARTS at 140.000€, you have a ton of options to raise price to Ferrari territory and this can happen just if you are one of the lucky that are selected by Porsche to get one of their production slots.

  • @M3dicayne
    @M3dicayne 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dude, the road is not secured and you are racing there on wet feet... Why???

  • @TheHesK9
    @TheHesK9 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    an Exige 380 would be a good match for the GT3

    • @ararattrouble9503
      @ararattrouble9503 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheHesK9 exige 380 can beat GT3 so easy. :)

  • @lucabanelli2663
    @lucabanelli2663 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lotus

  • @realniggaallthetime3003
    @realniggaallthetime3003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    l
    LOTUS WINS

  • @aster5031
    @aster5031 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    5/5 video. Also hard to decide which car.

  • @erkiiii-kun
    @erkiiii-kun 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GT 3 best, Lotus is good too but in quality and racing is the Porsche better.

  • @clairebannister4749
    @clairebannister4749 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    very good - Porsche far too fast for road use though, I think.. great for track tho'. One could exploit the Lotus far more on the road..

    • @dufferego87
      @dufferego87 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was going to say the same thing until I saw your comment.
      He could barely ever get to 9000 rpm on that road. That engine is a monster.

    • @brennanadcock8885
      @brennanadcock8885 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. The answer is really more about what you want the car for - GT3 for track racing, Evora for street driving.

  • @theUsesOFnot
    @theUsesOFnot 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    To me the Lotus has more of a growling sound.

  • @leonardomagro7108
    @leonardomagro7108 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well... As a Evora400 owner, i can say one thing: in the video, it wasn't at all of it's performance, it wasn't even in sport mode =|, I've tried the difference between normal, sport and race mode: it has a huge amount of differences between all of them... And it's the best car in the world that you can afford by that price range... Now I'm waiting for the Emira =)

  • @montenegrochannel6689
    @montenegrochannel6689 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing :)

  • @eydzuanrosley522
    @eydzuanrosley522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    people be like gt3 is better and whatever come on of course porsche is better they have a lot of car company in the vw group and they back up each other and lotus is independent car company yes proton bought them but even proton need lotus to improve their car and compare proton with vw group which is better? vw of course and people compare about the quality come on compare to a company that never even bank rub

  • @edgarmacias9457
    @edgarmacias9457 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    El mejor canal de coches del mundo

  • @fartlighter82
    @fartlighter82 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    997.2 GT3 vs New Evora GT would be a good comparison video.

  • @williamgustavk2184
    @williamgustavk2184 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it's like the roar of a beast when you're hunting in the mountains 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻 🐻

  • @scottcooneymusic6736
    @scottcooneymusic6736 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Porsche all day all around. But the Lotus looks super fun.

  • @Unknown-ne9gj
    @Unknown-ne9gj ปีที่แล้ว

    They both sound nice 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @vicscu
    @vicscu 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    where are you from? these streets look cool

  • @davidbardot1
    @davidbardot1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Would I rather drive a Porsche 911 GT3 or a Lotus Evora 400? LOTUS WTF???? A Porsche is like every other car u see on the road...lotus is unique and a lot more fun to drive

    • @whyyousotriggered6050
      @whyyousotriggered6050 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      DavesPride exactly

    • @Boofski
      @Boofski 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      The GT3 is not a car you can compare to "every other car u see on the road" lol, the gt3 has a 500HP N/A engine and is really track focused.

    • @Boofski
      @Boofski 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Derek Frampton In the Netherlands i see 10 lotus' for every 1 GT3 i see, it might be different in America but who cares about that place anyway.

    • @bluedream6462
      @bluedream6462 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thomas R stfu who cares about the Netherlands your country's GDP isn't even half of California's which is 1 of 50 states.

    • @Boofski
      @Boofski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      StaticWavves California is also 10x bigger than the netherlands dumbass, and our country is 8th in the quality of life index whilst the US is placed at 17th lol.

  • @patrickstarr87
    @patrickstarr87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Team Lotus😉

  • @TheHesK9
    @TheHesK9 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    GT3 vs an Evora GT430 or a exige 430 would be really close

  • @derbigpr500
    @derbigpr500 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Side by side really puts it into perspective how much better the Porsche is. It's a different league. These cars are 20 years apart in the terms of engineering.

    • @vxpert
      @vxpert 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      derbigpr500 Rubbish.

    • @bluegblueg
      @bluegblueg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow, you can tell all that from a video of the exhaust noise. Amazing, and totally wrong. Have you driven the cars? I have........

    • @craigyirush3492
      @craigyirush3492 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree. The 911 is 20 years behind the Lotus at least.

    • @eydzuanrosley522
      @eydzuanrosley522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ehem ehem at least lotus won F1 and every car company knows lotus and they're create one of the best F1 car and get banned because its too good..

  • @dougmaverick3287
    @dougmaverick3287 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Surprising but I think the Lotus actually sounds better than the Porsche.
    Really no comparison though as the Lotus has a proper manual transmission more driver-focused engaging involving and fun than an automatic.

  • @izwanhelmy644
    @izwanhelmy644 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    it is obvius, the porsh sounds cooler..it bcoz of the transmision

  • @eydzuanrosley522
    @eydzuanrosley522 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i seat on both car lotus and porsche (as a passenger) i fall asleep in porsche and i stay awake in lotus.. think about it

    • @spongeborgtheford4971
      @spongeborgtheford4971 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Eydzuan Rosley that’s kinda bullshit, the lotus is comfortable af.

  • @disfaka8089
    @disfaka8089 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I can tell he likes the Porsche better

  • @AMRO572
    @AMRO572 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Porsche it's the best 💪💪

  • @tcz7742
    @tcz7742 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Lotus is just a fun little gear Jammer at a good price versus an automatic 911 Porsche. Give me the little gear Jammer anyday.

  • @bbc_junior4863
    @bbc_junior4863 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Porsche sounds like a vacuum cleaner

  • @199724
    @199724 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    De Evora is waar je voor spaart, de Porsche is voor de winter omdat je zuinig wil zijn op de Evora.

  • @levinnuessli3404
    @levinnuessli3404 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It would be nice if there was an evora 500

    • @Kaisuke971
      @Kaisuke971 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not all about the power, what would be nice is an even lighter Evora !

    • @levinnuessli3404
      @levinnuessli3404 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I know I own an exige v6 CR and there it is all about the weight.
      but the evora is much more like a supercar. it would be awesome if there was a ferrari killer lotus

  • @redbilly
    @redbilly ปีที่แล้ว

    How about the Evora with a porsche engine ?

  • @leftclicky
    @leftclicky 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The 911 just sounds phenomenal.

  • @199724
    @199724 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wrong Evora. You needed the Evora 410. GT3 versus 400 is not fair.

    • @AutoTopnl
      @AutoTopnl  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Robbert van der Eem The 410 wasn't released yet when we drove this.

  • @farandymizan6837
    @farandymizan6837 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    2JZ / RB?

  • @commantrosexetlos4700
    @commantrosexetlos4700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    evora sounds way way better..evora is way more reliable too...and is wayyyyy cheaper too.

  • @CreeParadise
    @CreeParadise 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Topspeed with there two car pls *O*

  • @dannoyes4493
    @dannoyes4493 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lotus. Why? No plastic pump impellers. and, a MANUAL TRANSMISSION.

  • @commantrosexetlos4700
    @commantrosexetlos4700 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    with the extra money of gt3 if you put them in mods the evora will be at 1000hp min

  • @199724
    @199724 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh and the Porsche is nice but it's like a fast average car. Not a head turner. The Evora is although this is the most boring looking edition I have ever seen...

    • @AutoTopnl
      @AutoTopnl  7 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Robbert van der Eem Have you ever driven a GT3? It's everything but average.

    • @199724
      @199724 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AutoTopnl It looks boring. Could not care. I own 2 Lotus Elises. Before I had a 911SC. Porsche is for the average (midlife / elderly person) It's just not a fun car. Lotus is undisputed in this. I can't even bring myself to selling my S2 after I bought the S3 to replace it with. Also they are not "only 20 million cars Edition like Porsche's. And regarding performance. If I need speed I would buy a Tesla. I must note that an Evora is a little too heavy for a sportscar though in my opinion. It's just too comfortable to be a real Lotus.

  • @vandergonrides1120
    @vandergonrides1120 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    A Lotus with the redline before 7000 RPM... WHAT A SHAME!!!!!

  • @user234gbfgnkglweiof
    @user234gbfgnkglweiof 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    how much cost lotus?

  • @mikol58
    @mikol58 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Odd comparo...anyone know where this is filmed?

  • @tanditek-soldering9363
    @tanditek-soldering9363 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    So great cars!!! but Lotus is more better .....

  • @theFORZA66
    @theFORZA66 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lotus but only cause proper manual

  • @azharulkamil7551
    @azharulkamil7551 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Evora’s Exhaust sound much more like m3 and gtr r35! Great sound

  • @rideroll9609
    @rideroll9609 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lotus Evora 400 is awesome!

  • @dannypacman4482
    @dannypacman4482 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lotus

  • @MindsetAlchemy
    @MindsetAlchemy 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Porsche GT3! Even a regular 911. Why, because a V6 3.5 from a toyota minivan with an added blower does not do it for me. Not paying $100k for it, maybe $50k.

    • @Nature__Nick
      @Nature__Nick 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      E. Spatharius your paying for the chassis, not the motor.

    • @emanuelcrespo5786
      @emanuelcrespo5786 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Porsche is just another VW.

  • @coolcasanova1000
    @coolcasanova1000 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Porsche chassis is unstable

  • @dennisvanderben2719
    @dennisvanderben2719 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Car lotus but sound porsche

  • @NovicaTom
    @NovicaTom 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🫣

  • @liutprandofeinstaub4677
    @liutprandofeinstaub4677 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Porsche = VW Golf

    • @449Raphael
      @449Raphael 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Salvatore Feinstaub. No, VW Bug or ein flach geschlagen Käfer......

  • @StaryPijany-lu7wn
    @StaryPijany-lu7wn 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Would buy the lotus over the porsche since I enjoy having a roof over my head....
    Broke car lover gang

    • @spongeborgtheford4971
      @spongeborgtheford4971 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      OiOi Mate price isn’t everything. That lotus is more unique, sounds better, looks better, and hasn’t been the same model for like 100 years now.

  • @justin-jamespreiss2563
    @justin-jamespreiss2563 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    the Porsche looks better and is cooler than the lotus

    • @Thurisaz.
      @Thurisaz. 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Definitely the Porsche.. Okey I have to admit that I'm german

    • @Carbon1344
      @Carbon1344 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I´ll take the Mass production Porsche by old German elitists

    • @justin-jamespreiss2563
      @justin-jamespreiss2563 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ich bin auch Deutscher :D

    • @Carbon1344
      @Carbon1344 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I respect that ;)

    • @Kaisuke971
      @Kaisuke971 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Cooler just because it's a Porsche and has a wing on it ?

  • @Louis991
    @Louis991 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Team Porsche ? 😏💪🏼

  • @ledesmahugo1779
    @ledesmahugo1779 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Porsche vs Lotus= Win Porsche

  • @Buildinup6
    @Buildinup6 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like both but you cant compare a lotus to a porsche lol