Is The Coin Flip Real? - How Solo Queue Actually Works - Fixing MMR
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Coach Curtis: "So you're at least getting 30% free wins average"
Me sitting at a 22% win rate average overall: "Chief, it ain't looking good!"
its because the 40% that's on you. you are under performing them.
Not enough games, probably.
You are the free loss culprit
@@TheHiroCameron u didn't get his joke.
@@mohamadzakaria96 He actually didn't xD
Riot actually told me I'm so good that they had to keep me out of challenger bc it'd ruin the game :/
Same
That explains why im still bronze
How I met your mother refference?
Scott How do you mean that? Trying to find a possible reference but it hasn‘t come to my mind yet
@@dr.schneider8595 Barneys mom told him he couldnt play baseball because he was so good it would be unfair. While, actually the coach thought he was bad and didnt let him on the team
Well explained! I'll definitely link my viewers here in the future if they're complaining about their SoloQ success. Riot should look into making a "Driving License" for SoloQ. Like you need to watch these videos about Ranked and answer these questions before you can play.
respect that you are an accomplished and admired player still watching educational videos :)
Appreciate that man! Thanks for tuning in brother
Not surprised to see you here, always willing to learn and help, your champ suits you well
Funny to see you here petu, you are my other goto youtuber for soloq
Yo Petu :)
im going to tell myself that losses are actually wins, so i have a 100% winrate and dont get tilted, that way i wil mentally outscale the entire leaderboard and get rank 1
Playing Viktor irl
Another thing i think influences Lose/Win-streaks is reward oriented thinking.
If you had autolosses but were doing fine you reactively might think these correct plays were wrong, so you end up changing them, losing even more.
On the other hand if you did well, are mostlikely in a freeflow state and understand what u did was right, u are more likely to do these correct things more, making you win even more.
Atleast thats something i feel a lot
Im just commenting because i know you
@@adiuliel damn xD
I think u mean results based thinking not reward based but yea. This is a huge problem in league
Really good point, this is commonly referred to as results based thinking, it can be quite dangerous and that's why sometimes getting someone else to look at a play can be great because they are able to be objective regardless of whether it was a win or loss
Good point
Hey this is a pretty cool video, really interesting and does a good job of explaining the process of climbing. Low elo players sometimes talk to me for help and then they link their opgg and have 12 games played and think that's enough haha. I am sure your videos are helpful for most of the playerbase so nice work! The only thing I would say is that the 30/30/40 rule is way more of a scale than you made it out to be, and I think it could be misleading to Lower ranks.
In challenger, you are 1 of 5 players, and you probably do only have 20% impact on the game most of the time
(on average). But in silver - 2 duo smurfs are and can be 100% of the team. That's because the lower elo you are, the more control over the outcome you have, the lower you go, the less auto losses happen, because players aren't good enough to punish mistakes or win the game.
Ekko gets 1 double kill level 3 and double buffs
challenger ekko carries the game: 15 min FF ---- but in silver: 10-0 ekko still isn't gg
I would just hope that low ranked players aren't going to start talking about their 30% auto loss, that number should be far lower for them.
very good point
I mean, at my elo you can win with an all smite team... So I guess the fact alone that voice comes can wreck this level is quite the thing. It makes me feel that if keep up a good pace it should not be hard to stop being a noob heheh. Didn't expect to see you here BTW, keep making those history vids, I enjoy them a lot. :3
Hey man really appreciate that !
Although I see where you are coming from, I respectfully disagree. In a game filled with solid match making in silver, where there are silver 2 level players in each role with no smurfs, this ratio in my mind still applies. This ratio only breaks if there are smurfs within the game.
Yes games might end faster in high elo, but that doesn't necessarily mean the amount of games won or lost actually changes.
We have to remember that the level of play at each elo is relative, so for a higher elo challenger player looking at a low elo silver game we may we able to see how they have 'more' control over a game, but that doesn't actually matter since they don't have the ability to do so.
But regardless, like I say in the video, it's less about the ratio and more about the mentality knowing that the ability to climb is all in your control :)
@@CoachCurtis "This ratio only breaks if there are smurfs within the game". Well not quite. If you follow the argument made in your video to its end, then the logic says that the smurf is equally likely to be on either your team or their team. Their might be a slight adjustment since you yourself are not smurfing, but it doesn't negate the general point.
Hi exil, sure in low elo you as a single player yuo have more control over your games but at the same time a bronze/silver player has not the knowledge to carry by himself, he can learn sure but it requires PATIENCE. to me this is the main problem for elo player, patience, climbing requires a lot of time and effort. At least that's my personal experience in ranked games both in LoL and overwatch.
Less than 5 minutes in, and this 30/30/40 theory is so real it almost hurts.
After watching Coach Curtis,
Me: Get ready to match our win rate to 70%
Riot: It’s not possible
Me: No, it’s necessary
Damn you dissected my mental perfectly lmao. First 1-2 games of the day, I'm hyper focused on getting the W. If I lose those games I'm visibly tilted but I que up anyways while I'm on autopilot and I'm just banking on getting a "free win" game instead of a "on me" game. Awesome vid man, feels like you psychoanalyzed me without even knowing me haha.
Same, nice video Curtis.
Hahaha my passive irl is now 'psychoanalyze'
Oh my, just when I got tilted from a 12/0 draven at 5 minutes. This vid came up. Thanks
After watching the video. The draven game was inevitable and I should’ve just refreshed mental and played the next game better.
@@Ok-nz7gy Or even go bot collect 1k gold shutdown and make it a 40% game.
@@jakubrpawlowski that's not how it works
@@nedi8744 why not? If he can kill him it s possible.
i'm hoping it wasn't you playing varus/zyra vs me as draven that went afk at 5 xD
It's insane to me how content with such a high quality is free. Mind boggling. Thank you coach Curtis!
well, that's The Internet for you ... and yes, it's amazing ^^
(I mean, you wouldn't have The Internet at all, and most things on it, if it weren't for free work o willing contributors. That makes you think twice about that pro-capitalist myth that "people need to be put under pressure of homelessness/starvation in order to be productive or they just become useless lazy faks"...
[yeah that's borderline nazi rhetoric if you think abou tit twice...] )
You're right! It's such good quality coaching to tell people that by default, 60% of their games cannot be impacted and are simply determined automatically. Totally useful to makeup random statistics that discourage people from trying in the majority of games they play!
I really appreciate you mentioning your journey at the end. Helps a lot. The anxiety is real, but you've come a long damn way. I'm really happy you're doing thins while knowing where people are coming from even at the extremes.
Im sure this vid not only helps with the queue of everyday, I felt so hyped at the end, like an motivational video.
You are awesome coach, so sad the few persons know about your vids, really very nice level of content
Appreciate that Gonza !
I started playing about a week ago so I haven't even got to play in a ranked match, but finding this video beforehand just gives me soo much mental preparation for what's to come, I feel I now at least know what I'm getting into, great content
Thank you so much for this. The quality of your content is unreal - so much preparation in this, you have serious presentation skills!!
This video is exactly what I needed. I watched it a few days after it was uploaded, and by the time I finished watching it, my mentality towards the game and solo queue changed so much. I've been struggling, kinda hardstuck going back and forth from silver 4 to silver 3, always complaining about my teammates (although I never flame) and so on, but your video made my mentality a lot stronger, I don't tilt nearly as much as before and when I do I can calm down again a lot easier.
I can assure it works because yesterday I made it to gold 4 for the first time (I started playing in march/april btw) and I KNOW I'd still be in Silver 4 0PL if it wasn't because your vid helped me stay positive and concentrating in those "all on me" games. So I just want to say thank you!
wowwe that made me so irrationally happy when Curtis mentioned he's watched Pekinwoof, I love that small connection between two underrated league content creators I have a mountain of respect for :)
I"m glad someone finally explained 30/30/40 on youtube. I coach that a lot and tell people to let the free losses go, don't get cocky off the free wins, and make sure you win the games in your control if you want to climb.
Dude, the way you articulate these nuanced concepts is so inspiring. Glad I found your youtube from reddit.
Awesome video dude. I like that you talk about how the queue works but also mindset and perspective on climbing the ladder as well.
Its crazy how emotional we can get over ranked games, im personally a d3 peaker from last season around 1k games and now trying to get back from d4 roughly 400 games now EUW. becasue i have played alot of games now in d4 i only gain 15-16 lp while losing 20 always it is very frustrating to win 4 games and then if i lose 2 i am nearly back to 0 lp watching this video has helped alot and i will try to mentally improve thankyou!
This was incredibly helpful. Your content as a whole has helped me a lot i was a hardstuck s1-g4 player but after watching your videos in less than two weeks i got to platinum elo,
all thanks to you! Much respect!
Love it man, that's a massive climb ! Keep up the great work
Coach Curtis i know you'll probably never see this but i just want to thank you for all this free insight. I've always needed some guidance in solo q but never had the chance to find anything that's sure-fire. i just want to say im really happy to see a man of pure culture who respects people and their niches because some people cant pay for coaches and other things like that so im happy to have found an in-depth guide from some one who truly cares. also you do a fantastic job on making it entertaining to some extent.
Curtis, your mind is brilliant. the community is lucky to have a dude like you in it
Funny to see this vid, the friend that got me in to league had the same theory, and he has the perfect approach for the auto loss matches, in these matches he focusses solely on his own lane match up and uses these matches as training matches to work on his micro/macro, the moment it becomes obvious that it is a loss.
Yep that's a really good strategy I like that, at least you can take away something
How is that a good strategy?
EVERY SINGLE GAME is a potential win, no matter what it looks like!
I´ve won 4v5 matches, i´ve lost matches were we had a 30-5 lead with 5 drakes.
Don´t "train" in ranked, play to win if you want to climb!
@@kenshigo3833 Improving has a direct correlation to winning more, and how are you expecting someone to get better if they never play ranked because they 'arent good enough'? I dodge any new players, 1k games negative winrate shitters, inters, AFKers, trolls because I don't want to waste energy on those games. But that doesn't mean that new player shouldn't keep playing. Because they aren't being bad on purpose like the rest of those groups.
@@kenshigo3833 playing to win is the dumbest shit ever thats why league is toxic
@@kenshigo3833 ive had games where I've had three worthless teammates that ive only won because the enemy had 4 worthless players. Sometimes games come down to who is heavier, not every game is winnable
As a returning player, 29 years old, thanks for the content. Compared to "pro guides" that just tell you "dont forget to cs and turn on smart cast" this is a blessing even if your goal is high gold/plat
smart cast actually lowkey makes you miss a lot of skillshots by not taking time to aim them xP
a lot of times i'd be playing with someone and ask them
"... are you on smartcast ? turn it off. your skillshots are awful, i don't even know how you think you're gonna hit them"
@@blop-a-blop9419 eune peak silver3 advice
@@blop-a-blop9419 that's just completely wrong. it's complete personal preference.
This is actually amazing insight and I see everything so clearly now. Thank you so much!
thinking about the statistics and the logic behind winrate makes playing solo q so much more relaxing. Great video!!!
5:53 LMAO you are the best this is the reaction of all of us!
I was so bad when I started ranked (what a shocker xD) and for some reason decided to keep playing and losing consistently. 281 games later and I'm finally 1 win off getting an overall 50% win rate in soloqueue. Hopefully after that my mmr will start to increase and the climb will be that much easier.
Thanks for the vids, keep up the good work.
Keep at it brother!
falls hope, the climb wont ever get better, only worse, still fun none the less tho
@@ramonvolp3663 lol the climb only depends on your skill if you are above the level you are playing at you WILL climb so getting better at the game is the most important thing to climb
it only gets worse then slowly your mental goes
I really liked the slight rant (I don't know a better word for it) at the end there. Hearing your personal story on how you reached what you reached really inspired me to be better and put in more work in general. All in all, this is one of the most important videos and lessons I needed to hear. It's unfortunate that this is what I needed, but it is also good that I got to see it. I would be lying if I were to say I can think of a better coach than you, thank you for the hard work you put in to make these videos top-notch and quality, from the bottom of my heart.
This makes a lot of sense. I've had feeders on my team just many times as I've had feeders on the enemy team. Thanks and keep up the good content ^^
For me it’s not even the games that piss me off, it’s games that player behavior is the determining factor, much of which is controllable by good ban systems or player discipline setups. If my top lane gets absolutely crushed, I’ll grumble a bit but it doesn’t sit with me. The guy who loads into the game with the mindset he’s going to ruin 4 other people’s nights is what really gets me mad. It’s more of the collective culture of the game itself that I think a lot of people are frustrated with. I think even a 10% to 20% swing into the All on you category would do wonders for the community. If 50 to 60% of games are in your control, it feels a lot better on the user experience. That’s on the overall community and Riot to fix these sorts of issues with player behavior. Great video, I really like that 30/30/40 rule. That’s going to be my mindset from now on!
I haven't grinded ranked yet, but i have grinded aram to 2500(~top 1% of players). I found that in mid level mmrs you would get those people that would tilt easily and flame you(in aram it would be because they are dead all the time, so they watch you instead and have time to type). I would try to patiently say that this is silver mmr and that means we are both bad but that would just make them madder =). Above a certain rank people just play and cant be bothered to type anything at all
just rediscovered you recently, and I'm now a devoted disciple of coach curtis!
Will you ever be open to reviewing pro play like OPL and teach from that? Also I love your solo lane concepts series, keep it up :D
Appreciate that man! Thanks for the support, potentially in the future but for now I'm happy doing just mid oriented stuff :)
Dude, I love your fucking videos so much. I NEVER would have thought I'd ever sit through 30+ minute youtube videos, but here I am.
Hands down one of the best content I've watched. I completely agree with you and you definitely deserve more recognition.
SoloQ has been trash for 4 years now, matchmaking is so unfair and unbalanced. It's always a stomp, never close games especially during the early season. Also loser's queue is a real thing, I purposely kept queuing after losing and tried my best in every games I played but you could see in the lobby, before the game even starts it was already lost. At least 1 auto fill every single time and people with really bad losing streaks as well. My only advice is don't play solo, its not worth it. Find a duo and even if you lose at least you have someone to share the pain
The opening slide and I'm already interested. My best season of climbing I had never been beyond gold but always told myself "You're really a plat or diamond player." You're just being held back. I only started to climb when I started telling myself "You're a gold player until you get out of gold." Then I pushed and made it all the way to diamond. Basically I told myself, I am the rank that I'm playing in and the only person holding me back is myself.
Beautiful mentality to have man
Thanks so much for your awesome content, Coach ! Every single video on your channel is pure gold. Keep it up !!! :) :)
Wow! Coach Curtis is actually a genius! Loved this video so much =)
I think the biggest problem is that it takes a long time for your MMR/ELO to adjust to changes in skill level. So maybe you had some grand light bulb moment and your skill level is now on par with someone in gold 1, instead of your current rank, silver 1. But because of that 30/30/40 rule it might take hundreds of games in which you (rightfully) perceive yourself to be the better player to actually get to that new level. And that can be frustrating as hell :D
25:07 A little addition:
You see the 2 numbers relative to Jeff and Bright Beginner:
μ - average
σ - standard deviation
Let's take for example Jeff, he has the average μ = 1182 and the standard deviation σ = 200
Why are these important?
According to 3 sigma rule (also known as 68-95-99.7 rule) Jeff would play at level in a range from 982 (which is 1182 - 200 = μ - 1 * σ) to 1382 (which is 1182 + 200 = μ +1 * σ) 68% of the time, so in a 1 sigma range around his average. 95% of the time he will play at level in a range from 782 to 1582 (μ -/+ 2 * σ).
This works because Jeff's performance has a normal (also known as Gaussian) distribution. Now, it's very likely that distribution of any given player's performance looks VERY close to normal distribution with some average level of play μ and some deviation σ.
What can we deduce?
Improving is actually shifting your distribution to the right, so the average μ shifts to the right, but the shape of the distribution is the same.
Let's say Jeff improved a lot, now his μ is 1500, and distribution of his performance is still Gaussian (Bell's curve), so it "shifted" from 1282 to 1500.
Also, if you work on your consistency, you reduce the σ.
Let's say Jeff still plays averagely at 1182, but he worked on his consitency, so now his σ = 100 (it was σ = 200 before that). What does that mean?
That means that 95% of the time he'll play at level in range from 982 to 1382 (before it was 782 to 1582)
Hope this information helps.
Sorry for any language mistakes, English isn't my native language.
P. S. As always brilliant and very relevant video.
You are spot on, love this man! Appreciate the clarification
why are people using hard maths for a game that's so simple lmao
Chode league is So simple?
I want to say big thanks to you , you and your content both are amazing on insane levels . Not only your content fixed my mental about league of legends it also made my mental way different and because of that I started to analyze my replays , optimize my gameplay , seek mistakes I made in my games even on games I have won and because of that I climbed from elo I was thinking I would never get out .
King, I love your content. I really liked the part about mindset and being mentally tough enough to accept and not waste energy on the losses.
This is all fine and good, but when Riot rigs matchmaking to put people into the rank they think you “should be” based on MMR and you lose more LP than you gain for wins, it makes it extremely unfair and impossible to climb if you are low.
This is actually a really logical way to explain the current state of solo queue. About 4 years ago i was a silver player and i literally had 20 games in a row with 0/20 bot at least no joke (my whole match history was full of loses with 0/20 bot every time), I guess auto losses can be exaggerated sometimes, now I see solo queue from an other point of view and as my skills evolved as well now im a diamond player. Anyway, keep up the good work man you're really good at what you're doing and you are helping the community a lot!
I think what happened to u is similar to me
Link ur op.gg I don’t believe you the odds of that would be insane
Adrian Garcia JANY link op.gg the odds of that are immense
@@coletrain7464 in my sec acc euw.op.gg/summoner/userName=ropehell look at the last 8 games of diana
Another flawless video! Very high quality, props to you
Very thorough and concise. I strongly agree with all of the points you've stated throughout this video. Respect. You've got my sub :)
Could you do content for other lanes than mid ? I know mid is your specialty, but nobody on youtube playing other roles does videos with much details and so precise. I wish there'll be content of that quality for other roles.
I feel like 90% of my games are unwinnable or unloseable. There’s been such an increase in afkers and inters, I think there’s a big problem with solo queue that I think is ruining the climbing experience. I think Riot needs to do a few things: Be better about punishing toxic behavior and stop dumping fresh level 30 accounts into mid silver. New players are probably at mid bronze to high iron skill level. There are also a lot of smurfs at that level too, so you can end up with huge skill differences within the same rank. Honestly, the whole thing is a mess and I don’t think I’m saying that out of butthurt. I feel like I’m always carrying dead weight teammates or the enemy team are a bunch of paste eaters. I’d say about one out of five of my games is competitive and one out of ten is a really closely matched fun game, win or lose.
YES
The real issue is that this ENTIRE season is Jungle Diff *or* Rock-paper-Scizzors champion picks. You have really little margin for differentiating yourself in lane.
@@almisami That's why I switched to jungle after 6 years of support. Got hardstuck Gold 2-3 this season as a support (last two seasons I went plat). Last week I said to myself imma main jungle for at least a month. After 20 games I am sitting at 67% wr. I still am not a "good" jungler, but way better than the coinflip junglers I got in my games as a supp.
Amazing video as always curtis! I started watching your content and was able to climb from silver to gold now and planning to improve more to go plat! Thanks a lot
Best gaming video I’ve ever seen, great philosophy for all sorts of competition, you’re the man Curtis
yo curtis was wondering if youll ever going to make a katarina guide
he isnt an assassin play i think just watch katevolved or katlife, unless u want to see it as entertainment and ur a kat main like me
@@stefanpupaleski4090 not really i want an educational type of content so i can understand how to carry
@@abdelnourouafi1512 well they have some real guides, ik that
He did make a fizz video and says he plans on making a Kat video. Probably won’t happen but it’s not like Kat needs a guide. Punish enemy mistakes and roam
I'm working on a Zed guide for now, but in the future probably
Your Lol Content is Helping Us alot!
Thanks Coach Curtis!👏👍👆
No problem Marc!
jesus man, we need more people like you, but your are enough to give us hope.
thank u for the video, your content is what we need to improve
I like to see your channel is growing keep it up !! Great content!!
I believed this theory until I watched my friend get stuck in mid-gold for multiple seasons despite being at minimum a mid-diamond player. I previously coached several iterations of diamond teams and worked with coaches who coached at the professional level in other regions. This player made it to masters in a previous season but can not get out of gold now. I have watched them play in matches against all diamond teams (because I put them on the team knowing they weren't actually gold) and crush everyone. I have watched platinum players scoff at them and get absolutely decimated in repeated 1v1's where the plat player was allowed to choose the matchup. I've watched nearly 100 live games of this player and I know how good they are. Maybe they're not Faker, no, but they are 100% not a gold player. I've seen the patterns not work out to 30/30/40 because the number of variables in games is too high and too many of them are out of your control. I would gladly collect some VODs from their current play and show them to you if you're actually willing to watch them. I won't post OPGG because that's not a realistic method for analyzing someone's game play and it's nothing but blanket assumptions without proper context. I wanted to believe in the system you just explained, but after several years now of watching this guy I have lost all faith in Riot's rankings. The idea that "If Faker played that game he would have won" is really frustrating to hear. For you to say that a Plat or Diamond player should have to play like Faker to climb out of gold is kind of ridiculous. Being able to point out that someone didn't play flawlessly isn't the same as demonstrating that they deserved a loss. If you review ANY professional VOD from any region they ALL make multiple mistakes during every single game, so "flawless play" is not a legitimate argument. Like I said, I'm happy to send you VODs if you tell me where to send them.
There's ways to 'reset' mmr no? I forgot how they works but it might be something to look into
there's invariability in gameplay but eventually with a large sample size of games played the number of losses and wins attributed to teammates and the enemy will even out like coach curtis said and your friend will become the only consistent factor throughout those games. if your friend is a performing at a mid-diamond level and is still stuck in gold then i'm assuming that's the problem doesn't lie in his teammates but in his approach to the game.
Sure man, if you can upload those vods to youtube and join the discord and send them to me, I can show you very quickly he is a gold player
@@CoachCurtis W
if he plays extremely well, but is the type of player that easily starts to flame his team, or decides to go next after the enemy team gains a small advantage, then that could very easily inflate his free losses to make up 50% of his games.
started playing ranked this season (im just new to the game), I got bronze 2 right after my promos and your videos helped me a lot to climb especially the annie one, now im in gold 3, hoping to reach platinum before the season ends. Im having a hard time climbing atm but I think its fun that way since im relatively new, I think I can manage to climb to at least plat this season with all this kind of contents, big thank you coach
You are alrdy in the top 0.1 percent of ppl who play their first ranked season,
i start playing too first time this season. I learned to jungle, watched videos all time and I went gold 1 suprisingly i cluimbed from gol 4 to 1 with 0 effort. then i start demoting and losing now hardstuck gold 4.
Update, i manage to get to gold 1 but im in law school now i dont have the time to play atm :(
@@SongfulpuppyXBL i feel u
These videos and skill capped videos are the reason i went from hardstuck gold 52% w/r to plat 2 60% w/r and as a jungler not even a mid laner. It helped so much to understand a mid laners view and dynamic to matchups and champ strengths i was able to get good ganks off, good objective control, and good opportunities to invade and counter jungle. I love your videos and im so glad the channel is growing keep em coming curtis im going to hit diamond and its thanks to content creators like you ❤️
Really needed this video right now. Thanks Curtis
So you basically need to take the L's and keep going, without being frustrated for no reason. Good point coach! Thanks for the very informative content.
I just want to know why I almost never get afks until series. Then I almost always have an afk at least one game. What kind of math is that??
You probably don't you just focus on it. Also, you maybe play like 40 series games a season so more luck is involved.
ive had this mentality since i remember my self, also since i started league 10 years ago and i think played big part on me reaching diamond while my friends stayed plat/gold, everytime i tried explaining them that its their fault they cant climb we always ended up "arguing" about it, never till this day we came to a conclusion (not that we care nowadays). Ive been wanting to see someone mentioning these stuff in depth for so long so im happy to see this video, will probably share it with people, keep up the good work.
Thanks Kostas!
The first thing is out the ARSS numbers, but kinda makes sense, the rest is a great way to put the needed mentality. Great vid.
Sooooo, if 30-30-40 is a thing, and my account wins 13 LP every win and loses 17 on every loss, than I won't climb even with positive win rate
Have same mmr any help to fix that?
if u have bad mmr theres probably a obvious reason for that w/e that is. id suggest just keep playing and focus on MMR that means dont play for LP, play for MMR even if you need to demote some ranks despite having 50-50 wr. eventually when ur mmr is fixed u can more easily rank up. if you are stuck after demoting and fixing your mmr, thats the elo you deserve, but if you truly believe you are better then you will climb eventually. in this case its all about the long term gains
@@hijinxxftw5017 thanks :)
but what about dodging? i hard stuck gold, but after checking my teammates and dodging unfavorable games i hit plat 2. after this i rly understand that i was so unlucky but dodging fix it
but dodging its not easy too, i need a time, for understand when i need to dodge, and when i need to play
@@Global_Hub_Insight teach me that art sir, when do you dodge?
@@GusPD When you have auto-filled jungler or someone on your team picked a champion with what they have less than 48% win rate
@@LuckyGnom that would mean I dodge more games than I play, and I try not to dodge more then once a day. I constantly get matched with under 50% wr players
LuckyGnom winrate is not really fair metric, as for example I started playing this season, and my first 20ish ranked games my winrate was around 30% because I had no clue how this game works, now my winrate is around 45%, but with certain champs that I play recently, my winrate is 60%-70%. So it’s not the whole picture
Coach you have such a humble honest soul! Love ya bud :] Such a light
this is the most relatable video i have ever seen in my life. super good video!!
ur straight up spitting facts
In diamond 2 specifically, I found that most of the games are actually auto wins or auto losses. There were few games where I found myself playing passed 20 minutes. Being stuck there for 12 days straight learned me a few things about “high elo” NA solo queue. I would say the 40 rule is more like a 20 rule in that elo specifically.
Why u don't talk about how MMR is used to "balance" teams and sabotage the best player by putting bad teammates on his side so the outcome is "balanced" for Riot but not for the player ?
This is the video we needed. Thanks mate!
Thank you for this video it really changed my look at soloq and may or may not improve my games! also just tried looking at one of those 40% games that was lost and try to find every mistake i did and i succeded again thank you for this video and keep making good content. Cheers!
Gonna spam this link when I’m losing cuz people don’t understand
I love that you made this long ass video on a 40/30/30 THEORY that you haven't provided any sources for.
Yeah was thinking the same, there is no real explanation as for why this model should be applied here. This whole video is nonsense really because it’s based on something that is not valid to use, and somehow people buy into this.
@@Victor-fh5lx He forces a lot of this stuff for content. But yes, he literally made an entire video on a concept that has no real verifiable basis in this game.
thanks man, you always say things I already do know, but I autopilot some games and forget how to actually use those tips. I needed some words to boost my confidence and actually help me to remember how to apply these tips to actually climb again, thx m8! ^-^
I had really noone to talk to about these things but here u are to inspire me. Thank u senpai ^^
66 dislikes from people who actually belong in their elo.
I still believe onetricking of Twotricking is still the best way to climb.
I believe it was 1 otp, 1 meta champ, and one champ that counters the counter of your otp
@@danielkim4320 i play xerath as my otp, what do you suggest as 2nd and 3rd?
Mylan. Anivia and any AD midlaner. The reason being is that Anivia counters most champions that counter Xerath and you need AD just in case your team stacks AP.
@@choerrim7745 nice thank you!!
@@choerrim7745 i like leblanc, zed, and ryze. which one should i pick to otp and which other 2 champs should i play to match it
Respect. Thank you SO much for providing us with this content for FREE! This video helped me understand a bit about solo q, mainly mentality-wise.
Great video Coach Curtis!
Curtis stop taking pics of my loss streaks on OP.GG and posting my ranked experiences!!!!!
“Show me VODs of a player who doesn’t deserve to be at their rank” *googles Hashinshin VODs*
hes been high elo for several years he has gotta be doing something right
Look up NEACE's video "Why HASHINSHIN Outranks You"
Hash tilts and whines but he can pull through a win. Ur average silver doesnt know what he is doing.
he's been d4/d3 for a long time now. Def where he deserves to be
@@nedi8744 didnt he hit grandmaster twice this year in like the last 2 months? and i remember him saying he deliberatly wanted to demote to low daimond, and then later he regretted it, because hes had to change is play style and the champs he plays
Good vid, currently climbing hard bcs I've started to focus on learning this season and this helps to remind to focus on the important!!
Magnificent content ! Honor this man 😄
“Using your brain for once in your life”
I can’t stop laughing xD
I think you can fix your mmr by getting into promos and dodging two times
Wtf, can u explain me Better this trick?
@@Axel984_ yes I had a terrible mmr when I got to d4, so when you get to promos d4-d3, you just dodge like 3-4 of them and your mmr is fixed.
Lol
@@nikidein8753 this is big brain
Man I love your work, thanks for making that much effort! :D
Who is this Coach Curtis guy and his straight fire content? Instant sub lol thank the youtube algorithm gods for recommending this video!
I love how easy it is to just justify bad games with math, rather than make the system more balanced by punishing people ruining the experience. I shouldn't have to play 3 bad games at all, ever, because of poor human psychology. The people playing ranked should be the people that deserve to be there at the level they deserve to be at all times. No smurfs, no trolls, no fucks. It's a disgusting experience to have to queue up and waste 25 minutes of the day waiting to move on from an obvious loss of a game. This is the game designer problem. They don't want to make a system where people only have one account, or can only play ranked with subscriptions. So the only way to climb is to suffer or to play all day every day, or to be Faker.
did you even watch the video
I had a stretch of 11 games with at least 1 afk/legitimate run it down inter on my team recently. That was pretty tilting :)
take a break, do something else and come back with some fresh CC vids
People usually afk on games that seem lost to them. You could still influence some of those games before they afk.
@@florin920 It's often REALLY hard to make that influence though. I've had games where the team kills were only like 5 apart in mid game, and we actually took more turrets than the enemy, and had some scaling champs (I play Tryndamere). I've been up 60+ cs and 4 or 5 kills against my laner, but because the princess in mid-lane fed a few kills, and bot lane is behind by like 500g, they think the game is lost and ff.
For the last few months, 90% of my games are a coinflip of who gets the afk. When I say afk here, this also includes people who die like 2-3 times in lane and make the decision to ff@15 since they are mentally afk at that point.
Some games, I crush lane and make my enemy laner ragequit. Other games, someone does that to my mid/jg. I've had people quit the game after dying 1 time. In these games where my team has the "afk" player.. I will be playing like a pro, split pushing and getting objectives, matching the enemy's push (sure, not EVERY time, but definitely majority). Yet still, the dude who got himself killed twice mid in the first 5 minutes of the game sits in fountain and bitches the whole time his lane is getting shoved in, or his laner roams and gets a couple more kills in a side lane.
I generally have the right mentality to play solo queue.. but lately, I don't even want to waste my time, because so many people are playing this game that don't even want to play this game. How many times do you queue up and hit accept to find someone declined? How many times do you have someone afk in your game (your team or the enemies), or die a couple times and spend most of the game typing in chat? How many times do you get into champ select and have someone dodge? The last one has variables, I know. I just don't even want to bother trying to climb when this is how nearly every game goes lately.
Then, the cherry on the sunday here.. When it's the enemy that ff@15, it doesn't even feel satisfying. Sometimes it does.. but lately, not at all. When 90% of your games are decided by someone afk'ing, it makes the team game less fun. Not to mention that maybe you were trying a new build, but the enemy ff before you finish 2nd or 3rd item.
So many people playing this game are that annoying little kid that would turn the video game off if you were beating their ass at Street Fighter. THAT is MY problem with solo queue, and LoL in general these days.
This is super well done, alot of effort put in and it shows
This video is absolutely brilliant. Love the positive vibes.
But Coach..
You're looking at the system as it is right now, trying to explain the optimal way of treating the game in its current state. That obviously is the right way to look at things, if youre up for the climb & it surley helps a lot of ppl once again BUT I don't think ppl should take everything at it is.
I'm agreeing with everything you just said in your video and yet I 'm still not a fan of the elo system we currently have.
especially with a rigged matching system
All u say just doenst make sense , the game is designed to make u grind not to find skill , if not u could reach 100% or less than 35% but ofc the game is made in such a way so people doesnt quit it , How are u gonna tell somebody that they are at their skill level while being in plat and playing against Diamond or Masters yet their rank is Gold, The mmr is designed to reward bad players by putting them in good teams and end their frustration and to puniish good players by making them carry very bad players and they call that balance , u are just paid by riot , Ofc u are gonna deffend them if LOL is your income source lmao, what an hypocrite
yeah, the better you play , the worst teammates you have , so is a fair matchup, but if you are the good one, it feels very frustrating
Great video, those are my exact thoughts on soloq, too bad people normally won’t listen. Linked this to a lot of my friends, hope that helps both you and them lol
I just came back to league after being an ARAM lord for years., Started a new account picked 3 champs to play my main and my secondary role, and ive researched the hell out of re learning lane phase for each champ. Just applying lane phase coaching videos has helped me tremendously! Re watch a video not necessarily on even the match up just general basic tips like melee vs mage or vis versa every day before you Que up an apply the information they give you slowly, and as you ranked up an you feel super comfy in lane now go into the nitty gritty of league the macro play learning to team fight better with your specific champ etc. So far so good an it works for me could work for yall as well.
A little tip for those people who sometimes go 0 and 12 themselves:
STOP DYING!
This sounds like blunt, kind of stupid advice, but this simple concept seems to be rarely understood. No Kled, you cant 1v1 the 3 and 0 Fiora at this point, stay away, build armor and farm under tower, look out for tower dives and waste Fioras time - She will greed to kill you again, and tilt you even more to make you a non factor - distracting her from winning the game as she and her jungler play for KDA
No, Ashe and Sona, poking the 10 and 0 Draven, and his 2/0/12 Thresh Support wont be worth to stop them from getting another canon minion - Because he will farm you BOTH like a pair of canon minions. You shouldve stopped the moment you both hit 0/2 each and just waited for someone else on your team to get fed
No, Lee Sin, 1v3ing the enemy Darius, Kha Zix and Talon over the scuttlecrab might NOT be a great idea - farm, counter jungle when your enemy jungler goes for plays on the other side of the map, secure objectives to trade atleast a little bit. No, you dont have to gank the Darius with your 0/3/1 score at 10 minutes, trust me, just taking your camps will give you alot more, and the enemy top a lot LESS gold.
What im trying to say is
After your first 2 or 3 deaths, play from behind, respect your enemies harass range, look out for tower dives, and just SURVIVE. You dont have to get kills, you can even miss alot of your minions and be 40 cs behind, aslong as you SURVIVE and dont become another minion the enemy Mordekaiser can farm, you're helping your team ALOT
@@DragonRuffian It is not that easy, when they start to dive you, but you can still aticipate it. As Top warding tribush and see the enemy jgl get into position helps a lot to get back to savety. with game knowledge you start to read the oponents movements. you will see when they want to dive and you can back out in time and again: defensive wards are your friends. yes they might get first turret, so what? they would get turret anyway after they kill you. ofc it also depends on the enemy and your champs. you would still think twice to dive a 0/4 Lux, Leona or Ryze, as they can still snare you under turret and trade kills but Talon is free real estate once he is behind
Thank god, someone who actually understands this...
If your 0/12 that just shows you are consistently doing something wrong. The game maybe a loss, but more importantly it should be reviewed so it is understood where it all went wrong. The problem is sometimes giving a person 1 kill is enough to start the snowball. I have had games where the lane is lost on 1 bad trade. Sometimes that is hard to see in the moment. The last time I had a match that bad, I immediately went and watched a video of someone higher elo play the match out because I felt I didn't understand the matchup.
I'm one of those people who contributes to auto wins 😎
me 2 most of time :)
that means you int most of the time (you contribute to win for enemy team. just a joke xd)
i don't think that you guys got the concept of the video lmao
@@omerfridman6851 I even said just a joke and you still don't get it
Awesome Video and Great Content!
Telling people what they NEED to hear, not what they WANT to hear! Great content man!