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I just learned these info about fb22, naval f22, and twin seat variant few hours earlier in wikipedia website, I think it's just a coincidence that you happened to make a video on same topic
This is the video I needed right at the perfect time. F-22 is the GOAT and I could hear you talk about it all day. I love world of tanks and war thunder-just fun!
@@AdavidPTThe part of the company related to World of Warships actually divested their Russian portion related to World of Warships if I am remembering correctly.
An F/B-22 would have been awesome to look at. But I think the Pentagon said something like "why not put glass cockpits and Link-16 in all the F-117s we have so it can do the same thing at half price?" And Lockheed probably said "yeah, ok, sure, won't be as cool tho."
The F/B 22 would not be invisible to radar. The B1 and B21 are big enough to be hard targets for VHF band radars (the S-400 and The Type 346 Chinese radars) but the F-22, F-35, and other smaller aircraft are pretty easily visible to the VHF band radars. These planes can be detected at probably 150 miles by these radars.
I know this is off topic but I think they should name the NGAD the "Corvid ." It's the perfect name as Corvids are known to be the most intelligent family of birds. It would also be a similar to the f22 being named after a group of birds (raptors) instead of a specific species of bird.
Production version of MANTA + F-35 Block 4 avionics and new generation engine + a couple of Kratos Valkyries or Australian Ghost Bats tagging along and even without FA/XX or NGAD coming down the line there'd be the makings of a nasty little 5.5th generation fighter there. And that's just with the maturing, publicly disclosed technologies. 6th gen is going to be wild.
Yeah, I really liked the FB-22 STRIKE RAPTOR. As well as the two seater versions. The military should always include two seat variants whenever building a new aircraft for the exact reasons you cited. NOW although the swing wing version for aircraft carriers would have been awesome, I could see the complexity and impractical reasons for not building it. AWESOME SHOW ☆☆☆☆☆
The 2 seat swing wing was also known as A/F-X. The idea was to replace A-6 for the Navy & the F-111 for the USAF. Flight International, 26 Jan- 1 Feb 1994, had an article on it. Engines would have been PW7000, a higher bypass version of the F-22 P&W F119. Shame it was not pitched to the Europeans as it would have been a great Tornado bomber replacement. Perhaps let Panavia build 20-30% based on the number ordered. Shame it never happened.
I would not be surprised at all if Lockheed’s entry in the NGAD program is essentially a variant of the X-44 MANTA proposal. Essentially a “Next Generation F-22”
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I prefer the Tom Clancy's HAWX. I played AC7 last year and the story was super confusing - half the time i did not know who i was fighting against (or for). The flying was ok but i still felt the older HAWX was better. Especially the music score.
@@Raivo_K Hawx1 was good. But the ace combat series is one of the best flight game series on consoles. You should try playing multiple ace combats prior to 7. That’ll help the story. Hawx2 had a chance but lack in development and updates killed the game and franchise.
@Raivo_K I recommend Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies. It’s an older game but widely touted as the best in the series, with a story that is miles better and much more put together than 7’s story.
I listen to your stuff when I doordash a lot. I keep the phone in the glove box so I don't look at the screen while I'm driving. You know, for safety. When you said "Swing Wing Raptor" I almost ruined a few peoples night
The truth is that all of these concepts would have been 10 times cooler and cooler looking had they been based on the yf-23 instead and we all know it.
@@john-ze7eu nope because the yf-23 outperformed the yf-22 in every single category except added post stall maneuvering. It was just as much if not more a lobbying decision that Lockheed is famous for pulling off for decades in countries all over the world. Lockheed should be grateful Northrop built a better airplane because it gave them the improvements the production F-22 desperately needed. They switched from their flat planet philosophy of the yf-22 and fully adopted extended curvature that Northrop had developed and had been using since the 80's. That drastically upgraded the stealth of the F-22 and allowed them to also improve the aerodynamics closer to that of the yf-23 increasing its range and its supercruise speed. Don't forget the revolutionary radar in the F-22 is Northrop's from the yf-23 as well. Lockheed still uses pitot tubes on the F-22 and F-35 while Northrop moved on from those as well. Northrop did just as much as Lockheed to make the F-22 what it ended up as but the prototype yf-23 was on par so it makes us wonder what a production yf-23 would have been capable of. There are a lot of rumors/talk in the industry about how the 6th Gen fighters should be more of an evolution of the yf-23 than the F-22. That means something.
Boeing is already facing criticism for its delays and failures in its Artemis Moon rocket and latest line of commercial jets, they don't need one more program to foul up.
The F-22 first flew 26 years ago (the we know of). The F-15 flew 25 years before that. i.e. the F-22 is now older than the F-15 was when the F-22 first flew. and a similar size step further back from the F-15 lands at the F-100 Super Saber. Tech sure does keep flying forwards for fighter jets.
The Tomcat/Raptor Hybrid is easily one of the finest looking jets ever.... and if it was built, the Raptor production line would have been up and running till at least like 2015/16. This would have been a huge what if, as it would have kept the raptor production running, and also made upgrading it cheaper and easier
Turns out fighting reactionary wars in places we don't need to decreases our ability to fight real wars we actually need to. It's almost like it was completely intended.
7:00 Potentially. I am guessing that the super cruise speed could have achieved, at least marginally, superior because of the delta wings advantage. Edits. Better syntax.
Yes and kinda. Maybe there's a component regarding the appropriate volume of air being gulped, but generally speaking, when an inlet duct can change its geometry, it is done to adjust where the transonic and supersonic shockwave lands in order to keep it within the intake ducting, and not let it propagate outside to the airframe external. Keeping the shockwave inside the duct is how the airflow into the engine is slowed to subsonic velocity when the Eagle is whizzing around at Mach 2.54. The airflow going into any turbojet or low-bypass turbofan must be going subsonic before being ingested, else the engine will suffer a RUD. The trans- and supersonic shockwaves have curious aerodynamic properties, way beyond my humble brain, but evidently it acts as a very tangible barrier. These same shockwaves going over the wings of planes back in the day - the phenomenon was studied on the P-38, but was also a problem for the gen1 jets - and would 'lock' the control surfaces up to where they were ineffective. Generally, the aircraft were unresponsive and unrecoverable. Something else I suspect, but don't know yet, is that at high speeds, airflow may be ducted away from the low-bypass portion of the turbofan engine and directed into the core 'turbojet' portion - but, like I said...no clue. I do know turbojets are most efficient at high speeds up to Mach3, and high bypass turbofans are most efficient at low speeds. All modern jet fighters use low-bypass turbofans, to have greater efficiency at transonic speeds where they spend the majority of their flight time. This is why I suspect the low bypass fan can be taken out of the envelope when at high speeds. But what do I know? :). I'm just an airplane fanboy...er, jetboy. If anyone has corrections, PLEASE post!
Thank you for the video Alex. The FB-22 (?Strike Raptor?) surely does have an immense appeal. Thirty internal SDB.... Sixteen Hundred Miles Of Un-refueled Hate. That'll Do. Peaceful Skies.
Alex going bananas over the NATF was fabulous! and I think our experience with B2, B21, and our LO ISR drones will serve well in the 6th gen designs under work. Hopefully in a couple of years we'll find out about them.
Alex, great content on the FB-22! I wrote a thirteen page letter to the Sec Def Gates on why his canceling the F-22 and not pursuing a FB-22 would lead us to where we are today in the fighter and bomber gap with China. To date, the predictions that I made have all come true minus the Chinese invasion of sovereign Taiwan (May 2024)?
I would like to point out that an on board AI Agent could be a removable semi autonomous robot that could help with other things, we could call it an R2D2 system…..which makes the chAir Force and Navy behind the curve unless NGAD comes out as an X-Wing…….
@@nunya1877-p4f The Droid. Imagine how hard it would be to design one that would do THAT many things. But it would be harder to design a fighter like that.
Ngad doesn't need thrust vectoring because it's ally is the force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
Great video as always, Alex! Not sure if it would be too far outside your usual content or even be interesting to you. But I had an idea, since you mentioned playing Ace Combat. I was wondering if you may consider a video, featuring fictional Ace Combat fighters such as the FALKEN, Nosferatu, or Wyvern and the practicality of some of their fictional technology such as the Falkens armored/transparent cockpit, or the Wyverns forward swept variable geometry wings that fold forward and internally into the wing. I think it's pretty interesting but like I said. I don't know if that's too far outside your scope of videos. Anyways. Thanks as always for the great content.
The 737 has a long history of many firsts. And we at Boeing are going to continue its ground breaking legacy into the 21st century. Stealth at its conceptual level is an ever increasing arms race between radars and stealth technology. We at Boeing seek to find our own path, and allow the benefits of stealth, with significantly less price and offer a new branch of government. Ever since the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, eastern Ukraine has been placed under severe sanctions. Reports even indicate that planes have been landing without breaks. It's only time before the transponder does too. Our AXB-737 ultra pro + is designed to leverage this weakness by offering a similar radar cross section to other commercial jets. By exploiting human psychology, rather than technology, it is far more protected against unexpected technological breakthroughs, and will offer capability into the foreseeable future. Our offensive capability is far beyond any normal bomber. After all, this is a smart bomber, designed from the ground up* with SMART™ technology and network centered drone warfare. Our innovative door plug design allows for the rapid delivery of many small bomblets and grenades. In addition, if everything fails, our innovative MCAS system is designed getting out of air to air missile engagement zones(by surpassing their minimum engagement zone).
You ask for comments on what we want to see you report on next: I think I thought of a good one. When and IF we might see new types of jets flying with demonstration teams like the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels. Why are the current planes flying, and what other demo teams exist in the world. Love what you’re doing!
The early batch F-22 that are not being upgraded could still be very useful. Training as a stealth aggressor is one. Or other training options. Homeland defence may be another. Or a reconnaissance aircraft. A sensor package, possibly fitted in a weapons bay or stealth underwing pod. Like the Super Hornet 3 pod. Demonstration aircraft. Possibly doing flying displays. A couple should be taken apart to survey the airframe looking for stress point risks. An electronic warfare version. I have seen images of a small, outer pylon, IRST pod pair. I am sure the old F-22s have some useful airframe time and combat utility. Possibly supporting F-35s, using sensor data from the F-35. They could carry extra weapons for the F-35s. Or support the other F-22s. This is a relatively small batch of fighters so the cost of modifications need to be cheap, simple, low risk, viable and practical. Other options include technology testing. Some of them may be useful for NASA. Also, a satellite killer. Which is usually done with F-15s. F-22 could be much better. Or used to launch very small satellites. These F-22s can be stripped down a little to reduce weight. Even with tanker support to reduce fuel load. Then fire up the afterburners. Another aid could be some JATO rockets on a streamlined pod. Potentially from a modified bomb bay to reduce air resistance. Along range cruise missiles launcher could also be an option. Could they still be useful for guarding AWACS and tankers.
Depends on your specific priority, do you want high top speed and climb rate to intercept, best acrobatic performance or longer range? But generally a modernized variant of the Eurofighter Typhoon (or Rafaele) with big delta wings is the most likely answer.
The US Army just chose General Dynamics and Rheinmetall as finalists for the 4000 Bradley replacement IFVs. Could you do a Firepower series video about this program, the two finalists and the other three that dropped out. Or more generally the current state of IFVs (Bradley, CV90, Puma, Lynx) and their most likely future. Maybe even including anti air IFVs like some CV90 variants and SkyRanger.
The Aussie RAAF were up for an F-111c replacement around 2010, the F/B-22 would have been a great fit, also it would have been a good supplement and superior to the F-15E strike Eagle for the USAF. The USAF could do with a couple of hundred now.
Hrmm: Missed the LNG powered F22 version. Was in active development in 90's and early 2000's. Had ~30% ish lower range/payload, but otherwise was nearly the same.
No matter what future fighters look like, there will probably never be a sexier fighter than the F-22. Technology is inevitably going to advance, but no plane has ever made quite such a statement as the F-22 has. Such a strong statement, in fact, that no hostile force was ever bold enough to put it to the test. Even now, nearly 30 years after its introduction to the world, no recently developed aircraft (outside of the F-35) can claim to have surpassed the F-22 in air combat. Specific aspects, perhaps, but as a whole, no
If the F22 is so good, why didn't they just use the basic F22 frame when designing the F35? Does it trade off too much in the way of range or something?
The 35 needed to be single-engine, it needed chonkier weapons bays for A2G-friendliness, and it needed real estate on both top and bottom for VTOL hatches to open. Beyond those things, the 35 and 22 largely are the same, barring further stealth improvements discovered too late to implement on Raptor.
The F-35 was designed from the onset to be an exportable multirole *_strike fighter_* rather than an air dominance beast with secondary air-to-ground capabilities.
The task of turning it into a carrier based aircraft without having the original intention of producing such a varient would have not been cost effective not to mention the vstol version.
Yes, giddy! That could be the F/A-22. A stretch limousine F22 in F16XL clothing. Annular vectoring may require a stealth cone of shame (dog cone) of sorts to vector within. The performance we need from the F/A-XX is similar to the F-111. Swing wing? Probably not. Folding wings? Maybe. The F-35B seems stealthy enough with them.
If it's hard to apply stealth covering to the edges of a swing-wing on a fighter, how do they deal with the radar reflection of other movable edges like thrust vector vanes?
Could you do a video about the future of Shorad? Will short range air defense provided by the laser Stryker? Will the Bradley replacement IFV XM30 function as an anti air cannon? Should the US look at the SkyRanger / Skynex / millenium gun system? And will there be a Stinger replacement with a better battery, targeting, and most importantly more affordable? Or is this affordable future the APKWS guidance upgrade for the cheap and plentiful Hydra 70mm rocket? Should we slap that on Avenger Hummvees? Or IRIS-T?
That 50mm will probably slated for such duty. Millenium gun is 3rd party. what'll probably happen is that the 30mm Turrets of the interim SPAA solution will be mounted on a container. APKWS or cheaper solutions will be used vs drones. Stinger had some more design work done in the early 2000s, Notably airframe changes and the AIM9X IR/UV sensor. Range was said to be increased towards 7600meters. Recent propulsion/guidance advancements could probably increase that further. The Stinger will need to be re-designed anyway, many of the components are not being made anymore. I wonder if we'll see MANPADs with a booster section for extended range usage. (i.e. past 10km) for use on vehicles.
The stryker based laser? Probably not…. However the Valkyrie laser (currently starting production) is capable of intercepting high subsonic cruise missiles… so within the power levels needed to take on high subsonic aircraft.
Well, they are working on a technology for 6th gen fighters called “active flow control” which could eliminate the need for control surfaces. I think Alex has a video on it.
I have always wondered about your sign off Alex... should it be "Never miss a grain from Sandboxx news" instead of of a "drop"? I always hated it when you couldn't play in the sandbox because it was full of water from the rainstorm.
At 13: 30 and on the x44 in the others that you've shown, I would bear the value of the YF-23 if you put them side by side. That pleases me very much that the YF-23 was not scrapped but still being fielded. Although they didn't get the contract, neither did the builder. Of the raptor that is. He got a big payoff due to the order then the cancellation. There's always a big payoff on such things to contact tractors who build a 50 acre indoor assembly line. The shape of the YF-23 the engine placement of the YF23 to the x44 is amazingly very similar. I seen the few that had the engines extended but the majority were internal for a less heat signature. NASA tiles, whatever. It pays off. Love the show Alex. Keep em coming. Thank you for all your hard work and recon in your tutorials. I value them highly very much. Take care 🕊️
You would need special weapons capable of super cruise on the wing and that is a no to the best of my knowledge apart from body blended missiles perhaps?
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I just learned these info about fb22, naval f22, and twin seat variant few hours earlier in wikipedia website, I think it's just a coincidence that you happened to make a video on same topic
This is the video I needed right at the perfect time. F-22 is the GOAT and I could hear you talk about it all day. I love world of tanks and war thunder-just fun!
If you like World of Tanks, you should try World of Warships
promoting a ruzzian company, SHAME!
@@AdavidPTThe part of the company related to World of Warships actually divested their Russian portion related to World of Warships if I am remembering correctly.
" I don't care that is impractical, I want it " that got me haha same.
The unfortunate part is how prevalent that line of thinking is within DOD acquisition.
YUP, that hits
@@synjdcrispy7843 Goddamn now I feel guilty. You are right.
Sounds like picking Raptor over Black Widow. Hmmmm
@davidwilliams930
The only acceptable choice, of course
An F/B-22 would have been awesome to look at. But I think the Pentagon said something like "why not put glass cockpits and Link-16 in all the F-117s we have so it can do the same thing at half price?" And Lockheed probably said "yeah, ok, sure, won't be as cool tho."
A third of the payload and deffo subsonic. Not quite the same capabilities.
The F/B 22 would not be invisible to radar. The B1 and B21 are big enough to be hard targets for VHF band radars (the S-400 and The Type 346 Chinese radars) but the F-22, F-35, and other smaller aircraft are pretty easily visible to the VHF band radars. These planes can be detected at probably 150 miles by these radars.
“How many F-22’s does America need?”
“Yes!”
"How many did America get?"
"Umm..."
@@mill2712 Sad trombone noises.
@@Kenny-yl9pc Assuming those are all ready on time. You go to war with what you have, not what you plan to have.
HAhaahah
At the time of writing, you have as many likes on your post as America has Raptors, that is hilarious
‘Would you intercept me
I’d intercept me’
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Here before this blows up
Hahahaah😂
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I know this is off topic but I think they should name the NGAD the "Corvid ." It's the perfect name as Corvids are known to be the most intelligent family of birds. It would also be a similar to the f22 being named after a group of birds (raptors) instead of a specific species of bird.
Plus, we can then call a squadron of NGADs a "murder" or an "unkindness."
I think they should call it project broken arrow
But then people would think it was called the COVID
I like the name "wraith" as it conveys the ghost-like stealth of the B-2 Spirit, but scarier.
Or, hear me out, we call it the Owl, like we should've done with the 22.
It sees everything, and you'll never hear it coming.
Production version of MANTA + F-35 Block 4 avionics and new generation engine + a couple of Kratos Valkyries or Australian Ghost Bats tagging along and even without FA/XX or NGAD coming down the line there'd be the makings of a nasty little 5.5th generation fighter there. And that's just with the maturing, publicly disclosed technologies. 6th gen is going to be wild.
Yeah, I really liked the FB-22 STRIKE RAPTOR. As well as the two seater versions. The military
should always include two
seat variants whenever building
a new aircraft for the exact reasons you cited. NOW although
the swing wing version for aircraft
carriers would have been awesome, I could see the complexity and impractical reasons for not building it.
AWESOME SHOW ☆☆☆☆☆
@@nomercyinc6783I think we're all painfully aware of that. The Strike Raptor would've been the bomb, though.
The 2 seat swing wing was also known as A/F-X. The idea was to replace A-6 for the Navy & the F-111 for the USAF. Flight International, 26 Jan- 1 Feb 1994, had an article on it. Engines would have been PW7000, a higher bypass version of the F-22 P&W F119. Shame it was not pitched to the Europeans as it would have been a great Tornado bomber replacement. Perhaps let Panavia build 20-30% based on the number ordered. Shame it never happened.
4:55 Ace Combat 7 hell yeah
Thanks!
Alex + F22 = Instant Watch.❤
The FB-22 looks vaguely reminiscent of an J-20 without canards.
lol I wonder why😂😂😂
I expect the NGAD and Navy Stealth to be 2 seaters to manage the drones.
"Unbridled awesomeness!" My new catch phrase.
A video about the X65 and active flow control would be cool.
Yeah... but probably not enough publicly available data yet to compile a comprehensive video on it.
He already made one
Regarding AI agents, the F-35 supposedly has a "pilot's associate" to unload some of the pilot's workload.
5:05 your cool dude, totally love ace combat series including 7 and mostly assault horizon ,are like so radicaly sweet man
Oh damn, the Strike Raptor just SCREAMS Pacific Theater.
There’s one thing we should all be able to agree on: the name “Strike Raptor” would have gone so hard.
I would not be surprised at all if Lockheed’s entry in the NGAD program is essentially a variant of the X-44 MANTA proposal. Essentially a “Next Generation F-22”
The variant we apparently needed was a dedicated balloon-buster.
Tack tipped missiles?
This joke is getting really stale.
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Love ace combat. You rock Alex.
I prefer the Tom Clancy's HAWX. I played AC7 last year and the story was super confusing - half the time i did not know who i was fighting against (or for). The flying was ok but i still felt the older HAWX was better. Especially the music score.
@@Raivo_K Hawx1 was good. But the ace combat series is one of the best flight game series on consoles. You should try playing multiple ace combats prior to 7. That’ll help the story. Hawx2 had a chance but lack in development and updates killed the game and franchise.
@Raivo_K
I recommend Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies. It’s an older game but widely touted as the best in the series, with a story that is miles better and much more put together than 7’s story.
Fabulous presentation, thanks Alex !
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Yall have to admit, looking at the Raptor makes it very easy to understand why people think we are using alien technology 😂
Damn that quick glimpse of the 2 f14's flying looked sooo awesome
I listen to your stuff when I doordash a lot. I keep the phone in the glove box so I don't look at the screen while I'm driving. You know, for safety. When you said "Swing Wing Raptor" I almost ruined a few peoples night
14:31 nice shot. looks like raptor delta wing existed in the 50s.
I for the life of me can't understand why there wasn't an FB-23 or just something -23. That plane is the Blind Melon of aerospace.
Thanks, as always.
I don't understand that there is a need for a new stealth bomber. It does not seem necessary enough to field a whole new stealth bomber.
Another great video Alex. I appreciate your work.
As always quite briliantly put together, cheers for everything.
Reminiscent of the F-16XL
Wonderful video about FB-22 supersonic Raptor's newest US designed ... & NAT F -22 of navy utilized
Yes, a hybrid raptor/tomcat would have been glorious 💯
When you mentioned the most advanced proposal for the F-22 my immediate thought was the YF-23.
The F-23 would have been hard to think up a swing-wing version of. But an all-delta FB-23? That could have been interesting! :)
I understand there was in works a plan for a FB-23. That would have been the cats meow!
For the navy.
Could foreign allies have bought it?
Foreign f22 sales are banned, but the x23 wasn't banned.
Cat's meow?!? OMG, you must be even older than me (and I am 62).
@@pike100 Brits & Irish say "the dog's bollocks".
The truth is that all of these concepts would have been 10 times cooler and cooler looking had they been based on the yf-23 instead and we all know it.
If they had chosen the f23.. all u arm chair generals would be crying 'why didn't we get the F22??????'
@@john-ze7eu nope because the yf-23 outperformed the yf-22 in every single category except added post stall maneuvering. It was just as much if not more a lobbying decision that Lockheed is famous for pulling off for decades in countries all over the world. Lockheed should be grateful Northrop built a better airplane because it gave them the improvements the production F-22 desperately needed. They switched from their flat planet philosophy of the yf-22 and fully adopted extended curvature that Northrop had developed and had been using since the 80's. That drastically upgraded the stealth of the F-22 and allowed them to also improve the aerodynamics closer to that of the yf-23 increasing its range and its supercruise speed. Don't forget the revolutionary radar in the F-22 is Northrop's from the yf-23 as well. Lockheed still uses pitot tubes on the F-22 and F-35 while Northrop moved on from those as well. Northrop did just as much as Lockheed to make the F-22 what it ended up as but the prototype yf-23 was on par so it makes us wonder what a production yf-23 would have been capable of. There are a lot of rumors/talk in the industry about how the 6th Gen fighters should be more of an evolution of the yf-23 than the F-22. That means something.
@@sgsheff I guess the defense depth needs you in procurement
@@john-ze7eu these are all these they have said since, I just pay attention.
Boeing is already facing criticism for its delays and failures in its Artemis Moon rocket and latest line of commercial jets, they don't need one more program to foul up.
LM is going to have to mess up really, really bad not to win the NGAD contract.
30 years old. Scary to see what the next one will be able to do
That's the neat part. You won't... Well OK. Maybe just the aftermath.
The F-22 first flew 26 years ago (the we know of).
The F-15 flew 25 years before that.
i.e. the F-22 is now older than the F-15 was when the F-22 first flew.
and a similar size step further back from the F-15 lands at the F-100 Super Saber. Tech sure does keep flying forwards for fighter jets.
Great stuff, Alex
far out . . . great video, Alex.
Camera/chase plane by the wing alone and confirmed by the complete airframe's shadow starting a 2:51 is a P51 Alex.
Waiting for the F-23
The Tomcat/Raptor Hybrid is easily one of the finest looking jets ever.... and if it was built, the Raptor production line would have been up and running till at least like 2015/16. This would have been a huge what if, as it would have kept the raptor production running, and also made upgrading it cheaper and easier
I remember, as a kid, seeing a concept drawing of the F/B-22, it was much like the one shown in AC7, but lacked the vertical(diagonal?) Tails.
I’m looking forward to seeing the navy f/a-xx planes, possibly even more than the usaf ngad
Turns out fighting reactionary wars in places we don't need to decreases our ability to fight real wars we actually need to. It's almost like it was completely intended.
That F-44 Manta is either going to make center stage soon, or someone's getting canned.
7:00 Potentially. I am guessing that the super cruise speed could have achieved, at least marginally, superior because of the delta wings advantage.
Edits. Better syntax.
Do I see correctly that the air inlet of the F15 is moving? Why is it doing that? Is it to optimise the amount of air getting to the engine?
Yes and kinda. Maybe there's a component regarding the appropriate volume of air being gulped, but generally speaking, when an inlet duct can change its geometry, it is done to adjust where the transonic and supersonic shockwave lands in order to keep it within the intake ducting, and not let it propagate outside to the airframe external. Keeping the shockwave inside the duct is how the airflow into the engine is slowed to subsonic velocity when the Eagle is whizzing around at Mach 2.54.
The airflow going into any turbojet or low-bypass turbofan must be going subsonic before being ingested, else the engine will suffer a RUD. The trans- and supersonic shockwaves have curious aerodynamic properties, way beyond my humble brain, but evidently it acts as a very tangible barrier. These same shockwaves going over the wings of planes back in the day - the phenomenon was studied on the P-38, but was also a problem for the gen1 jets - and would 'lock' the control surfaces up to where they were ineffective. Generally, the aircraft were unresponsive and unrecoverable.
Something else I suspect, but don't know yet, is that at high speeds, airflow may be ducted away from the low-bypass portion of the turbofan engine and directed into the core 'turbojet' portion - but, like I said...no clue. I do know turbojets are most efficient at high speeds up to Mach3, and high bypass turbofans are most efficient at low speeds. All modern jet fighters use low-bypass turbofans, to have greater efficiency at transonic speeds where they spend the majority of their flight time. This is why I suspect the low bypass fan can be taken out of the envelope when at high speeds.
But what do I know? :). I'm just an airplane fanboy...er, jetboy. If anyone has corrections, PLEASE post!
@@ronjon7942 Wow! Thank you for such a detailed explanation!
Oh Hell Yeah! High end "Sandboxing"!
Many thanx Alex 👍👍
I still say the YF-23 should have won.
Absolutely, I think we should of let Japan produce it.
I thought they were in the process of something very similar.@@DPain82
Thank you for the video Alex.
The FB-22 (?Strike Raptor?) surely does have an immense appeal.
Thirty internal SDB.... Sixteen Hundred Miles Of Un-refueled Hate.
That'll Do.
Peaceful Skies.
Fb-22 is basically an 5th generation f-111?
yeah, it would have been glorious
It'd be what the Ruskis have with the SU-34, but less missile-bait-y
Alex going bananas over the NATF was fabulous! and I think our experience with B2, B21, and our LO ISR drones will serve well in the 6th gen designs under work. Hopefully in a couple of years we'll find out about them.
Alex, great content on the FB-22! I wrote a thirteen page letter to the Sec Def Gates on why his canceling the F-22 and not pursuing a FB-22 would lead us to where we are today in the fighter and bomber gap with China. To date, the predictions that I made have all come true minus the Chinese invasion of sovereign Taiwan (May 2024)?
"Pains me to the core!" 🤣🤣🤣
You never know what time.
That swing winged F-22 is just bella. Literally a Tomcat but.. Shadowcat. I wish it was real.
all in all...very good content as always
damn...no variable fighter yet....
I would like to point out that an on board AI Agent could be a removable semi autonomous robot that could help with other things, we could call it an R2D2 system…..which makes the chAir Force and Navy behind the curve unless NGAD comes out as an X-Wing…….
Aeromechs!
But how could you make such a design practical in the real world?
@@louis_the_hedgehog the X-Wing or the R2D2?
@@nunya1877-p4f The Droid. Imagine how hard it would be to design one that would do THAT many things. But it would be harder to design a fighter like that.
Ngad doesn't need thrust vectoring because it's ally is the force, and a powerful ally it is. Life creates it, makes it grow. Luminous beings are we, not this crude matter.
It uses fuel containing midiclorians.
It does or does not.
Thank you for another amazing video. Always waiting for your next. You make my day.
Thanks Alex 😊
Great video as always, Alex! Not sure if it would be too far outside your usual content or even be interesting to you. But I had an idea, since you mentioned playing Ace Combat. I was wondering if you may consider a video, featuring fictional Ace Combat fighters such as the FALKEN, Nosferatu, or Wyvern and the practicality of some of their fictional technology such as the Falkens armored/transparent cockpit, or the Wyverns forward swept variable geometry wings that fold forward and internally into the wing. I think it's pretty interesting but like I said. I don't know if that's too far outside your scope of videos. Anyways. Thanks as always for the great content.
Love your vids, would love to see your thoughts/analysis of historical fighter jets....
“World of tanks is built for accuracy!”
War Thunder players:
Boeing's answer for 6th generation fighter most likely will be based on a modified 737.
The 737 has a long history of many firsts. And we at Boeing are going to continue its ground breaking legacy into the 21st century. Stealth at its conceptual level is an ever increasing arms race between radars and stealth technology. We at Boeing seek to find our own path, and allow the benefits of stealth, with significantly less price and offer a new branch of government.
Ever since the 2022 invasion of Ukraine, eastern Ukraine has been placed under severe sanctions. Reports even indicate that planes have been landing without breaks. It's only time before the transponder does too. Our AXB-737 ultra pro + is designed to leverage this weakness by offering a similar radar cross section to other commercial jets. By exploiting human psychology, rather than technology, it is far more protected against unexpected technological breakthroughs, and will offer capability into the foreseeable future.
Our offensive capability is far beyond any normal bomber. After all, this is a smart bomber, designed from the ground up* with SMART™ technology and network centered drone warfare. Our innovative door plug design allows for the rapid delivery of many small bomblets and grenades. In addition, if everything fails, our innovative MCAS system is designed getting out of air to air missile engagement zones(by surpassing their minimum engagement zone).
You ask for comments on what we want to see you report on next: I think I thought of a good one.
When and IF we might see new types of jets flying with demonstration teams like the Thunderbirds and Blue Angels. Why are the current planes flying, and what other demo teams exist in the world.
Love what you’re doing!
The early batch F-22 that are not being upgraded could still be very useful. Training as a stealth aggressor is one. Or other training options. Homeland defence may be another. Or a reconnaissance aircraft. A sensor package, possibly fitted in a weapons bay or stealth underwing pod. Like the Super Hornet 3 pod. Demonstration aircraft. Possibly doing flying displays. A couple should be taken apart to survey the airframe looking for stress point risks. An electronic warfare version. I have seen images of a small, outer pylon, IRST pod pair. I am sure the old F-22s have some useful airframe time and combat utility. Possibly supporting F-35s, using sensor data from the F-35. They could carry extra weapons for the F-35s. Or support the other F-22s. This is a relatively small batch of fighters so the cost of modifications need to be cheap, simple, low risk, viable and practical. Other options include technology testing. Some of them may be useful for NASA. Also, a satellite killer. Which is usually done with F-15s. F-22 could be much better. Or used to launch very small satellites. These F-22s can be stripped down a little to reduce weight. Even with tanker support to reduce fuel load. Then fire up the afterburners. Another aid could be some JATO rockets on a streamlined pod. Potentially from a modified bomb bay to reduce air resistance. Along range cruise missiles launcher could also be an option. Could they still be useful for guarding AWACS and tankers.
What would a modern 2020s air superiority fighter look like without stealth?
Look up the su 57 and you got your answer lmao.
The f-15ex
It would look like an expensive target…😅
Depends on your specific priority, do you want high top speed and climb rate to intercept, best acrobatic performance or longer range?
But generally a modernized variant of the Eurofighter Typhoon (or Rafaele) with big delta wings is the most likely answer.
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Strike raptor or STRAPTOR?
The US Army just chose General Dynamics and Rheinmetall as finalists for the 4000 Bradley replacement IFVs.
Could you do a Firepower series video about this program, the two finalists and the other three that dropped out. Or more generally the current state of IFVs (Bradley, CV90, Puma, Lynx) and their most likely future. Maybe even including anti air IFVs like some CV90 variants and SkyRanger.
Wow, both the bomber and the variable geometry versions would've been so cool.
20yrs from now we'll be looking at vertical tail surfaces as "training wheels" for more modern aircraft. I can't wait to see the newer designs.
The Aussie RAAF were up for an F-111c replacement around 2010, the F/B-22 would have been a great fit, also it would have been a good supplement and superior to the F-15E strike Eagle for the USAF.
The USAF could do with a couple of hundred now.
Love it when Alex goes all fan boy for a proposed variant!
Hrmm: Missed the LNG powered F22 version. Was in active development in 90's and early 2000's. Had ~30% ish lower range/payload, but otherwise was nearly the same.
No matter what future fighters look like, there will probably never be a sexier fighter than the F-22. Technology is inevitably going to advance, but no plane has ever made quite such a statement as the F-22 has. Such a strong statement, in fact, that no hostile force was ever bold enough to put it to the test. Even now, nearly 30 years after its introduction to the world, no recently developed aircraft (outside of the F-35) can claim to have surpassed the F-22 in air combat. Specific aspects, perhaps, but as a whole, no
If the F22 is so good, why didn't they just use the basic F22 frame when designing the F35? Does it trade off too much in the way of range or something?
the F-22's airframe could not lend itself well to what the F-35 needed to do, it needed to be designed from the ground up for the JSF program
The whole form factor was off. You can't just leave one engine out in a two engine jet and call it a great single engine design.
The 35 needed to be single-engine, it needed chonkier weapons bays for A2G-friendliness, and it needed real estate on both top and bottom for VTOL hatches to open. Beyond those things, the 35 and 22 largely are the same, barring further stealth improvements discovered too late to implement on Raptor.
The F-35 was designed from the onset to be an exportable multirole *_strike fighter_* rather than an air dominance beast with secondary air-to-ground capabilities.
The task of turning it into a carrier based aircraft without having the original intention of producing such a varient would have not been cost effective not to mention the vstol version.
Interesting vid !
I love the AC7 footage
I had no idea the f15 adjusting intake ducts moved so much at low level flight.
Yes, giddy! That could be the F/A-22. A stretch limousine F22 in F16XL clothing. Annular vectoring may require a stealth cone of shame (dog cone) of sorts to vector within.
The performance we need from the F/A-XX is similar to the F-111. Swing wing? Probably not. Folding wings? Maybe. The F-35B seems stealthy enough with them.
Reminds me of the NLOS cannon getting canceled at the last moment. Another bad move
Enjoyed it
We will see all the cool stuff soon with ngad 🥰🥰🥰 literally so excited those jets are crazy
If it's hard to apply stealth covering to the edges of a swing-wing on a fighter, how do they deal with the radar reflection of other movable edges like thrust vector vanes?
I've long thought the Air Force could use a fast medium bomber along the lines of the FB-111, and the FB-22 would have filled that role nicely.
Nice 👍🏼
Could you do a video about the future of Shorad?
Will short range air defense provided by the laser Stryker? Will the Bradley replacement IFV XM30 function as an anti air cannon? Should the US look at the SkyRanger / Skynex / millenium gun system? And will there be a Stinger replacement with a better battery, targeting, and most importantly more affordable? Or is this affordable future the APKWS guidance upgrade for the cheap and plentiful Hydra 70mm rocket? Should we slap that on Avenger Hummvees? Or IRIS-T?
That 50mm will probably slated for such duty.
Millenium gun is 3rd party. what'll probably happen is that the 30mm Turrets of the interim SPAA solution will be mounted on a container.
APKWS or cheaper solutions will be used vs drones.
Stinger had some more design work done in the early 2000s, Notably airframe changes and the AIM9X IR/UV sensor. Range was said to be increased towards 7600meters.
Recent propulsion/guidance advancements could probably increase that further.
The Stinger will need to be re-designed anyway, many of the components are not being made anymore.
I wonder if we'll see MANPADs with a booster section for extended range usage. (i.e. past 10km) for use on vehicles.
The stryker based laser? Probably not…. However the Valkyrie laser (currently starting production) is capable of intercepting high subsonic cruise missiles… so within the power levels needed to take on high subsonic aircraft.
Is it possible to control a fighter with only thrust vectoring and no moving control surfaces?
Well, they are working on a technology for 6th gen fighters called “active flow control” which could eliminate the need for control surfaces. I think Alex has a video on it.
I have always wondered about your sign off Alex... should it be "Never miss a grain from Sandboxx news" instead of of a "drop"? I always hated it when you couldn't play in the sandbox because it was full of water from the rainstorm.
I'm guessing the NGAD aircraft will have some of the FB-22's capabilities.
At 13: 30 and on the x44 in the others that you've shown, I would bear the value of the YF-23 if you put them side by side. That pleases me very much that the YF-23 was not scrapped but still being fielded. Although they didn't get the contract, neither did the builder. Of the raptor that is. He got a big payoff due to the order then the cancellation. There's always a big payoff on such things to contact tractors who build a 50 acre indoor assembly line. The shape of the YF-23 the engine placement of the YF23 to the x44 is amazingly very similar. I seen the few that had the engines extended but the majority were internal for a less heat signature. NASA tiles, whatever. It pays off. Love the show Alex. Keep em coming. Thank you for all your hard work and recon in your tutorials. I value them highly very much. Take care 🕊️
You would need special weapons capable of super cruise on the wing and that is a no to the best of my knowledge apart from body blended missiles perhaps?