Russia tried to sell a SUBMARINE to a Colombian cartel
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- In 1980, a Russian man named Ludwig Fainberg arrived in Miami with his sights set on the American dream... or at least, a certain type of it. Fainberg, known to most as "Tarzan," would work his way into the organized crime underbelly of Miami, culminating in an insane plan to secure a Foxtrot-Class Soviet submarine for a Colombian drug cartel.
Here's how it all played out.
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the fact that TH-cam has bullied it's sole money makers so far into submission that we end up having to self-censor information that poses no harm to those that watch this content is criminally insane.
Remember how hard creators on cable TV fought censorship? Just look at South Park and Jerry Springer. They were the most controversial things on TV in the early 2000s but now people can say fuck on TV and no one cares. But for TH-cam creators if no censorship means no money, you bet your ass they are beeping out cocaine.
Exactly why I been watching rumble more and more lately. Every other week youtube suspends me for a harmless comment
Once you cross their line, the algorithm crushes You.
@@MrKKUT1984 I'm always curious what "harmless comment" people are making when they claim TH-cam is suspending them. I've made plenty of definitely not harmless comments and have never received more than a warning...kinda makes me doubt the sincerity of those types of claims.
@evananderson1455 I used the word "homosexual" and not even in a derogatory way and they banned me from commenting for a day or two. This has happened many times for different words. Another time I said "thieves should get a hand chopped off when they get caught stealing." I made this comment about a video where a bunch of thugs I guess is the best way to describe them, beat a woman and stole her car or purse or something to that effect. Banned again. This is just a few of the more recent times it happened.
The Rostov submarine is no longer available for sale.
The Chinese might sell them one on the cheap.
A basic stainless steel tube with some Chinese lithium-ion batteries and an electric motor is all they need.
actually. you can buy a submarine .
a foxtrot sub. want a link?
@@univrzsalplease
@@univrzsalsure
...for $50 million! But the nuke...
From one cartel to another
America is the biggest terrorist / drug pushing cartel on the planet. Are you that daft, dude?
No better than our own government! Us gov
Not really russophobe
@@Dcale lol you people hate your own country so much, just move. The self-hatred is insanely pathetic
^ Lies. Damm lies.
The US Government has structural seperation of powers, and a robust judicial system.
You don't get kneecapped and daughters taken never to be seen again because You don't pay your protection fee.
Paying utilities and trash companies is vasty superior to cartels.
Current Swedish diesel electric subs are orders of magnitude more silent than a foxtrot.
The swedish subs are Sterling electric. Not diesel electric. They do also have a diesel motor. But its only for emergancy use.
More silent than a Foxtrot is a pretty low bar.
@@navyreviewer but orders of magnitude is quite a large diffrance
how do u know?
Sweden won't be selling a submarine to a drug cartel anytime soon.
When you realize what type of sub the Foxtrot was
I would say the Cartel got a blessing by not getting it
Yea, that boat would be a bigger hazard to the cartel than to us.
Especially when it was many decades old, and anything that is retired by the Russian's have usually had a hard life of it and that were totally crapped out rust buckets.
USSR’s Underwater Noisemaking Craft.
I'll bet the U.S. submarine commanders wished that the sales of Russian submarines would go thru. They would have had the opportunity to sink real targets. After all, simulated attacks could get tedious and boring.
@@williamromine5715 They could call it Operation: Hunt for the Rusting October.
dammit, that coastguard vessel was fitted with sonar and just pinged us.
up periscope! right, no other ships nearby. launch torpedo 1!
torpedo 2 away sir, engine running...
torpedo 2? nooo! tell me it was torpedo 1. oh, boy! the boss is not gonna be happy....
lol
Hope they bought a ton of Flex Seal
Not surprised that the market for russian submersibles is pretty active these days
Ukraine is converting Russian ships into subs on at least a quarterly basis.
@@TheStormpilgrim airplanes too...
This happened back in the 1980s.....
@@Brandon-nq7ys no shit
Well done Alex. Great work from the Sandbox News team
That would be a massive flex for a mob boss with a nuclear weapons if the cartel had chosen that route 😂
They would of been eliminated with extreme prejudice without any regard to collateral damage or loss of life to surrounding area. Having said that, I wouldn’t be surprised if they do have one just in case they are targeted.
I watched that documentary, "Operation Odessa". It's one of the craziest stories I've ever heard. Great documentary...
Fun fact, the same director created Night Stalker: The Hunt for a Serial Killer on Netflix.
It was on last night
I think it would have been harder to sneak up the coast in an old Soviet sub than the home made one.
Not unless you have the navy in your pocket
Every time I hear this story I think of my relative who served as a submariner. They died before hearing this story and would have served on a sub of a similar class.
I remember hearing stories about the size difference between modern subs and post WWII subs.
Not everyone can make it as a sailor under the ocean. I also remember them joking around about giving the public a test run in the water. Knowing that you can say you can do it but once your under and you hear all the odd noises while diving. Some people couldn't handle it during training and that was training
Imagine trying to get any regular guy to operate the sub with a limited crew who could help without panicking.
To add the layer of them buying a nuke to this is just unbelievable. Talk about the ultimate arms dealing. Wow!
I regret not touring a sub years ago when I had the chance. Being too frugal and semi claustrophobic made me pass. But it definitely would have been a hell of a conversation to talk about later.
The referenced drug cartel is not pronounced "Medellon" it's "Meh-de-yeen"
So basically one mafia group tried to sell a sub to another mafia group then?
The Cartel tried to "buy" a sub to transport there goods. Its a doco on netflix Operation Odessa.They got ripped off.
Fun story Alex, right before I got out of the Navy I was stationed at the Pentagon as part of the Joint Staff Intelligence Directorate. I was on watch in the NJOIC inside the NMCC and we were right in the middle of a big interdiction campaign with SouthCom, the Coast Guard and the DEA. I was doing basic searches on google for open source info and I had come across an article from 2000 about a submarine that was being built in a mountain workshop 18 miles from Bogota. Columbian police found Russian technical manuals with said sub. I passed this to the DDI and it spiraled from there, an hour later the then Chairman Admiral Mullen was on the watch floor holding a video conference with other high ranking officials about Russia helping Narco traffickers. Pretty interesting day. It was believed that the Russian mafia was responsible for transferring the documents and If I’m not mistaken the documents were for a Kilo class sub.
Slight correction, the Cali Cartel did not split off (Wiki is incorrect in its wording) from the Medellin cartel. They associated and did some coordination at first before becoming harsher competitors. The Cali folks actually started off as a kidnapping ring.
If the Russians did sell a sub to the Cartels, I'm pretty confident it would have been targeted by the U.S. the moment we found out about it. Using smaller subs is more practical for them.
gotta just love this channel . . . Alex is by far the best. this video is far out..
you have to bleep out the word cocaine now?!
if you want to make money with adds then yes
You can say whatever you want
but if you want advertisers money then they simply asked for family friendly content. So take it or leave
@@abdiganiadengeez, ok. And here I thought the movie “Blow” was considered family friendly nowadays.
X is ... X.
Could have just said "Coke": No way in hell Woke TH-cam is going to block the name of their favorite soft drink!
I have to think buying a Russian sub to smuggle drugs to the US might have not have been the best idea anyway. We know what those subs sound like and bringing one into US waters would have probably gone really badly for them.
Comparing a Foxtrot to the Gottlanand isn't exactly a fair comparison...
Diesel submarines stopped surfacing to recharge batteries during WWII. Snorkeling or “snorting” is now accomplished while shallow at periscope or snorkel depth. The most modern submarines can even recharge batteries while entirely submerged while using a variety or emerging technology lumped under the title or AIP.
I've been waiting for SEAPOWER! Keep it up Alex and Team.
6:40 when he said "med-el-lin cartel" he's talking about the Medellin cartel😂
Pronounced 'med-eh-ying'
In case anybody else was like "what the f*** is he talking about"😂😂
"Med-eye-een"
- Hey, Russia, what are you sellin'?
- Da.
It's not like there's a shortage of ex-submarine sailors out there from whatever flag willing to crew these things for a handsome fee.
Lol that 2005 war games scenario is basically the movie Down Periscope!
Listening to this, I couldn’t help thinking of the 1966 Batman movie…the scene when Batman discovers from Admiral Fangschleister that the Navy recently sold a surplus pre-atomic sub to a Mr P.N.Guin!
To be fair, the Swedish submarine in question (Gotland class) has Air Independent Propulsion, which is a highly-efficient Stirling engine, running on diesel fuel and cryogenic liquid oxygen. It's able to stay submerged, and haul a**, for over a week at a time. Most diesel-electric subs have limited battery capacity; they can stay submerged for a while but they can't go very fast while doing so.
The 80's were a magical time. 😉
Ussr collapesed in 1991.. so most of this stuff happened in the 90s
I thought the swedish sub that sank our air carrier in war games was a liquid oxygen sterling engine.
I saw a report on a refurbed aircraft carrier Russia sold to India.
It took 10 years, it cost triple the original price quoted, and never worked properly.
Is there anything more terrifying than finding out you were on a Russian warship or submarine. The probability of a tragedy occurring increases exponentially. Missles or no missles? Lol
Thanks Alex this was a good one never heard about, and I have heard a few stories in my days.
Just for your information, Medellin is pronounced "meh-de-jeen" but most Americans would say it "meh-de-yeen"
Just watched a TH-cam video on how to pronounce the double LL. It is pronounced differently, depending on the region where you live.
Mexicans would also say me-de-yeen. Depends on the country. Sometimes Ll is Y and sometimes it's J. My spanish teacher always made fun of Argentinians for saying "Me Jamo"
What do you mean by meh-deh-jeen? What J sound? Like meh-deh-zheen or meh-deh-dzheen?
@@NonEuclideanTacoCannon Zheen, not Dzheen
Came here just for this. Is Alex using an AI speech generator for his own voice 😅? Just growing up in the U.S. in the 80s-2000 and occasionally watching news, one would hear the word “Medellín” pronounced in one of these two ways more often than how Alex said it. Not to mention all of the Pablo docs, shows, and films.
Pretty sure the Swedish sub had some Sterling engines. Diesel probably heated a reservoir before the games started then shut it off and ran the sterling. Can't rightly remember since it was at least 2 years ago, maybe 4.
What a deal...We thank you Alex🇺🇸
This could have been the plot for "Lord of War" or a sequel movie or spin-off TV/streaming series.
The Idea that they offered him a Nuke is actually a bit terrifying considering the sheer amount of weapons the soviets had when the union collapsed, and lthe level of corruption that still exists there.
Why beep the word "cocaine"? It is not a secret. I lived in Fort Lauderdale back them and cocaine was everywhere including the occasional beach wash up, though marijuana wash up were more frequent.
“Hunter Biden”
I knew Tarzan, he was a tech client.😅
Most interesting story yet. Thanks Alex,i had no idea about this . Kedp 'em coming.
Alex, I really enjoy your channel! Thank you for all your hard work!
“two hundred dollars…and…that was ENOUGH. (Lowkey abject incredulity)”
Love it.
This was your most entertaining video ever. A crazy story makes for great video😅
"Pretended to be Pablo Escobar" largest balls ever right there. didnt even have a mustache lol
10:31 you left one c word in.
Those rusty old Foxtrots were so noisy all you had to do was open the main cabin door and just listen for it. Saves buoys.
Great stuff Alex!!
It’s sad that a video on a story like this has to bleep out the cargo to keep TH-cam happy 😂
I’m honestly shocked there were never any terrorist attacks carried out with black market Soviet Nukes during this era
The deferred maintenance on those Foxtrots is staggering. Better have a dealer check it.
Alex, brother... WOW!
I mean, you yourself said "I come with context", but this was just next level on that front. I mean, starting with *the cold war* and mentioning the space race... all before legit tying it into an attempted Russian submarine sale in the 90s...
And WOW! What a trip!
Of course, the story is awesome, but I wouldn't expect anything else from you.
Keep up the good work.
And I look forward to more Sea Power eps!
Scary to think cartels with real subs. HOWEVER, Would love to see cartels trying to maintain an ancient submarine!
Those are a pain to maintain and aren't that easy to pilot and such.
I remember this story. That dude Tarzan is a character
War on drugs is crazy.
Seapower!
12:30 I guess the secret's out.
It's pretty disturbing that mental health initiatives in the military are being politicized. The mental strength of servicemembers, worked on by the best military psychologists in the world, is probably the US military's greatest asset.
i think the issue is not with the initiatives, it's with the reason why these initiatives are becomming more and more important.
It's kind of a "chicken and the egg" thing. You see similar situations in the civilian space like education.
@@sandwich5344out of curiosity what is the reason?
Relevancy is what?
@@jack37133it's the traitorous MAGA faction putting their interest in getting the Orange Clown Dump into the Oval Office before national security. They have done the same with military promotions as they have been blocking it last time I checked(about a month ago)! It's despicable! Reagan did the same telling Iranians not to release American hostages before the elections in exchange for better negotiation terms when he wins just so that he can defeat Carter. Republicans have been like that
@@jack37133 well i'm not a psychiatrist - but if you look at the decline of our society, when parents have no time to spend with their children. Often resulting in very poor development as we are giving them mobile devices just so they'll shut up - as overworked mom and dad are too busy working overtime to keep the family afloat...
Then you create alot of potential for mental health decline nation wide.
And i think we're starting to see that, both trough the enabling factor of technology these days. But also due to the poor insight of parenting these days combined with longer work weeks and increasing inflation.
I sound like a broken record, but this really seems to be going downhill in the last 30+ years
Can we just talk about how sexy that intro drop was after he says “it’s about time for some SeaPower”
Man your intros get me so pumped!
A soviet man named Ludwig Finberg?! LMFAO
What I think is pretty disturbing are those fucking beeps. Sandboxx I LOVE you but that got me twice in a row. Thought we had a nuclear alert or something.
The Hunt for Red October meets Clear and Present Danger. Clancy would have gotten a kick out of that.
As you related this story, all I could hear in my head was the music from Miami Vice playing along!
In the first minute you show us the coast guard running on the sub, but the navy expects us to believe 2 seals “missed” the ladder.
And couldn't be found, despite being on a mission where that type of thing is definitely planned for, just in case.
Aint plausible deniability fun?
My dad watched Porkys with me and my brothers when we were like 12 & 14! An absolutely legendary movie!
This is Crazy
Imagine what headaches law enforcement would have had if the drug cartels had gotten at least two of those submarines?
"Seapower" title grabbed my heart
There was no such phone in 1980!!
Maybe it's a good topic to discuss, that Swedish submarine story would be great
Can we take a minute to appreciate the fact that this Russian mobster paid to have a bunch of professional pictures taken of him posing like a Calvin Klein model?? lmao
Another great story. Thanks
That was fascinating. Thanks.
Just gotta say, i love seeing Seapower in the lineup!! More Navy stuff, please!
""She don't lie, cocaine" ~ Eric Clapton" ~ Michael Scott
Kool segment...
As soon as I heard his pronunciation of Medellin, I paused the video and came to the comments to see what people were saying. I was not disappointed.
(I'm a white guy that grew up in Jersey and not a native Spanish speaker)
Why the heck is there a >Bleep< when you say what they were smuggling?
Love you videos, keep up the good work!
4:28 Tons of what, Devil Dog?
🤣
Me di yean cartel. Lolol almost said it the right way lol
Crazy Ivan!
Semper Fi Jarhead
Uhhh, this is *not* about "Sea Power" . . . more like an episode of Miami Vice ! 😎🌴
Wow that's crazy
This should be a movie
Hello Alex. I like Your videos and the information You have, concerning the Air Force and other topics.
But, the Swedish submarine You refer to as "diesel-electric", is wrong.
That is not a diesel-electric, there is no diesel engine in the sub, for propulsion.
But a Stirling engine for charging the batteries.
That, is almost as quiet as something mechanical can be. (It work with warm-cold gas principle.)
Check that out.
They "played" with US Marine, and is, as far as I know, the only "hostile" vessel, ever "sunk" a American aircraft carrier.
Correct me, if I am wrong.
from a Finn in Diaspora
Your wrong! it is a diesel sub, it carries two diesel engines of (1,300 bhp (970 kW) each), two Stirling engines of (75 kW (101 hp) each), and one electric motor (1,800 shp (1,300 kW)), to one shaft.
The Stirling engine is tiny and only used to extend under water capability then main charging is done from the diesel's.
Aussie Collins class subs in war games claimed an aircraft carrier a decade before.
From these exercises a much improved ASW protection exists today.
Note : That video of that frigate splitting in halve was from a Collins class Mk48 torpedo, torpedo's are vastly deadly weapons compared to anti ship missiles.
Hello and thank You for the answer, but:
Please, exclude the torpedoes, I don´t care/did not, mention them.
And You are right, there are two diesel engines onboard, but these are only able to operate, when the sub is surfaced.
That, was my point.
The Stirling engines prolong the dive time to several weeks. (Take a look at Wikipedia.) As I mentioned and was my point is: The sub is extremely quiet, is able to stay submerged far longer than "normal" diesel subs. This one is even more quiet, than a nuclear sub, and thus, was capable to take a picture/"sink" a carrier in that, please note: game.@@LeonAust
Dude reread your Alex reply you stated "propulsion" not under propulsion.@@outsider7658
Seapower? Great, thanks, now there's seamen all over my screen.
Geez now yt is worse than legacy TV with the censorship. You hear worse than cocaine
Medellín , med'ah'yeen
Does honesty even stand a chance.
Buying a Russian submarine was a crazy idea, but that guy deciding that stealing $10 million from a drug cartel was a good idea was bonkers! Amazingly, he didn't end up in a batch of canned dog food.
Alex you gotta pronounce Medellin right. Lol it’s mede-een.
YEAH!!!!! I've been begging for a Seapower channel!!!!!!!
I only see this plan working if the US had no idea about it. But when they found out a sub is making trips to Miami there would be an attack sub and a P3 flights from Key West. They'd find the thing inside of a few days if not hours. The problem is that for a "civilian" sub the Foxtrot class is advanced but by that time in terms of military tech it was completely obsolete
Lol i remember Porky's, it was around when i was a kid in Miami in the 80s.
Strange image at 09:43. A Walrus class sub with names of Saab en Damen. Walrus class was built by RDM while Saab Damen is in the running for building successor. Damen today won contract for 4 new frigats (air defense en command). Its not very probable they will win the contract for the new subs FYI
It was an example of Diesel subs not the individual class.
The documentary Operation Odyssey is all about this event. Its absolutely insane. I highly recommend watching it.