i have never heard a single person in my ENTIRE LIFE use the “welcome back ____” or compare something/one to shakespeare in a serious manner. it has always been in a satirical tone 😭 how are people SO DENSE
1:57 satire lmao no it’s called sarcasm 😂 2:48 I’m sorry what’s with the casual homophobia in these last couple of tweets??? People really have no morals huh.
@@harlastra casual as in they’re saying it like they think it’s nothing. Like yeah calling someone subhuman is way past casual so I don’t understand how they can say it so casually as if they didn’t just say something so vile
that last tweet was VILE something about fandom really brings out the worst in people. like why are we being homophobic over a youtuber's silly lil joke
as a twitter user, no it doesnt 😭. when i saw that tweet i was like not them trying to come for choujimi... i repiled does scarcasm not exist..? and someone starting cooking me GOODNIGHT? 😭.
This is a pretty healthy responce to your first (and most definitely not the last) hate tweet. It's impossible to please everyone on the internet, but it's good to reflect on things one does regardless. Healthy boundaries couples with a willingness to take criticism and grow. Thank you for your work here on this channel, you make this community a better place!
no, THAT tweet is the reason why nobody takes kpop stans seriously edit: ok lowkey i made this comment before i heard king say it himself so i feel stupid but it still stands!
i dont wanna be that person using the new term of the week.. but the response & that tweet was seriously showing peoples lack of media literacy like you were so clearly not being serious 😭😭😭😭 edit: maybe media literacy isnt the right term in this context, but generally just an inability to understand clear unseriousness like??
i giggled at that person saying "u should go back to school to learn media literacy" or smth while completely missing Obvious sarcasm. insane lack of self awareness. also what does media literacy even have to do w thinking a song lyric is good 😭
@@kendikrush im confused by this reply and maybe i wasnt quite clear in which case my bad?!? i was agreeing w u and said that i found it funny how someone who was attacking choujimi for this was claiming he lacked media literacy when they didnt understand that he wasnt being serious
THIS ONE, bc are we gonna pretend they aren't being blatantly homophobic?? And I bet these same stans are the first to start shipping same sex idols or obsessing over fanservice too
The fact that you were willing to show sympathy for this person is absolutely wild,😭 you're way too kind of a person but also we seriously need more kind energy in this fandom so fuck it keep doing what you're doing❤
Is genuinely scares me how quickly K-pop Stan’s on twitter will resort to insulting comments and slurs to any form of criticism of K-pop releases. Good faith criticism is used in every creative field. Wanting to provide feedback to an artist (especially recent K-pop groups and global groups) who are trying to reach the largest market they can shouldn’t be seen as hate.
The fact that they couldn't understand basic sarcasm is alarming. It also shows that they didn't watch the complete video. They look really silly now, making a joke their whole point. Those Twitter users are the reason people don't take K-pop seriously, cause they seem disconnected from the world. Yes, not understanding basic sarcasm is being disconnected, and only using it to prove a point is weird. Great video, luv, don't let haters, and idiotic haters at that get in your way!
i saw the tweets omg people are weird and inhumane as hell. aside from how much they hated blackpink they were saying horrible things about you and i hope you're okay dawg ur one of my fav content creators and i love your video essays😭❤️
of course most of the people who got angry about that silly tweet are armys, it's so funny how they love a group that is all about self-love just to go on twitter to call someone a slur over a joke.
you twitter debut 😍 but seriously twt stans have no critical thinking skills when it comes to anything kpop then act like they are somehow the best judges
The fact that most of the accounts are armys doesn’t surprise me. Even a possibility that someone might appreciate Blackpink or its members is enough to set them off. But the aggressive protection they have for HYBE is scary and cultish.
i agree with this comment, im not defending anyone. but what i find more surprising is how every other fandom does this yet never gets called out for it 😅 this is a typical miserable kpop stan behavior
it's pretty interesting you say that because from my general experience, a lot of the really aggressive hate ive seen on kpop posts/videos/tweets has come from blinks. now thats not to say your point is wrong because i have encountered a few wild armys as well. im personally a huge once and it seems that some blinks cant stand twice's long standing popularity (which is dumb because blackpink is from my understanding just as popular as them and theyre also friends with twice lol) basically im just trying to say its interesting how the circles of the internet we use will show us different aspects, in this case some armys being wack or in my personal case some blinks hating other girl groups hope what i was trying to say made sense
We don’t protect hybe we protect our fav artist But the army’s who start hate for no reason don’t deserve to call themselves that Also for u to call our fandom cultish by the actions of few isn’t the best approach As army’s we are used to amazing lyricism unlike blinks so we have a high standard in terms of that sorry if our actions seem hyper critical when they are just speaking or the truth or are actually hateful
@@warda2739 the way armys in particular go about "stanning their company" is like no other tho. they dehumanize and insult anyone especially women that they see as any sort of threat to bts or hybe. The fact that Jennie in particular is still being sl*tshamed for being caught with V and the way armys switched up fast on newjeans and started saying unspeakable things about those girls because of the minheejin controversy...
I have a theory as to why they are so mad. Althought Armys are not hybe stans, Hybe stans are armys what i mean is that a lot of hybe stans happen to be armys even though A huge amount of Armys don't particularly care for Hybe. One of the main weapons of attacks against other kpop groups and particularly Blackpink was lyrics. They claimed that BTS talked about important issues in their songs and although they weren't wrong, it was a bullying tactic and a weapon that got a little rusty once BTS released the English trilogy(cute songs but light on lyrics). This issue of lyrics have also been extended to the rest of hybe artists(as in all hybe artists just have better lyrics than everyone else on the kpop industry) Blackpink have been demeaned because a lot of their lyrics was basically flexing (i think this isn't true and blackpink has some heartfelt songs as well) so to see someone calling Lisa Shakespeare(even though he was being sarcastic) enrages them because in their world, there is no way Blackpink can beat BTS at anything
@@mitchierainbow7353 armys are hybe stans. i'm someone who ults bts and was active in the twitter fandom until last month. recently they've proved that they're hybe stans. they hate newjeans for "betraying" hybe. they also believe bts built the hybe building from the ground up when it's actually just a rented building that each hybe subsidiary pays rent to occupy. ofc bts are the reason behind why hybe was able to form in the first place. but many armys forget that bts don't need hybe. hybe needs them.
@@mitchierainbow7353have you listen to every single group before jumping into that conclusion?? pretty sure blackpink doesn't represent all other kpop group
@@songkang3xsrvx what conclusion, the one about lyrics? Because blackpink does have deeper lyrics? And I never said Blackpink represents kpop artists I only said that they are one of the targets of armys when it comes to the lyrics issue.
@@mitchierainbow7353 Army fight with everyone not just blinks I replied to this - all hybe artist just has been better lyrics than everyone else on kpop industry. Pretty sure bp doesn't represent all kpop industry
this reminded me of that tweet of that woman who tweeted an innocent post about her and her husband drinking tea everyday or something sweet like that and some replies of the comments were "not everyone has the ability to enjoy such stuff cause they have chronic illness!" "you don't have to put it on our face cause i have 7 hours of work with little paycheck!". Taking it too personally for no reason. And this is one of them.
One thing about the little 7 accounts and Hybe (the company) stans… they will find things to be angry about, dont take them seriously it’s just been awhile since they touched grass ao they’re feisty
kpop stans' inability to get a joke when its entire existence is setup for it like let me leave my funny comments without fear of being taken seriously PLEASE
I found it kind of funny, but I have seen legit people not being sarcastic and switching up on opinions in videos depending on the groups they talk about, so hadnt I not known your channel and the videos, I wouldnt have thought twice about that because, yeah seen stuff like that genuinly before and wouldnt be suprised tbh😅
Okay as an army, more specifically a twitter army, I think I can tell you a bit more about the context you ended up falling into. That account is what we call on army twitter a “shooter” which is someone who just goes on the app to fight in fanwars: they engage with antis, they make horrible tweets about other groups and basically make the stanning experience miserable for all their followers. As an army I’ve definitely seen the worst part of blink twitter, they’re honestly horrible. And I’m sure many blinks have seen the worst of the worst of army twitter. These fanwars are constantly ongoing and most of us don’t even pay attention to them anymore. They honestly got revived more with Jimin and Lisa releasing music on the same day, which I’m sure was made on purpose by one of the two labels or maybe it was a coincidence bc there wasn’t any big competition in the western releases of that day. All this to say, don’t worry. Twitter people just love looking for someone to hate on for the day and then they move on. Armys in particular are constantly fighting off hate trains that are joined by many many many fandoms for no reason so many shooters tend to have this mentality of “giving back the same energy”. But, honestly? Most of us are really normal there. I do gotta say, katseye seems to already have a fandom full of shooters. I’ve already gotten ratioed by them. So I’d be careful around them. Anyway, keep making videos, the person had to know your channel in the first place to even screen record and post the clips on twitter so clearly they’re watching
kpop twitter is one of the worst echo chambers i have been apart of. i think its ‘peak brainrot’ from sexualising idols & casual porn to wishing death upon people & hating others to performative activism. i have created a new account and recently i have gotten tons of ‘xyz threads’ on my for you again… i always click ‘im not interested in this post’ to get it off from my algorithm. if i want to interact with kpop fans in a serious manner or get genuine nice updates, i either just use the following section on twitter since those tweets are just by the accounts i follow or use reddit or youtube since people are willing to listen to your opinion and exchange thoughts regarding something. since twitter became X, you don’t even necessarily get to communicate with people unless you get a stupid hit tweet or fish for likes under a popular post, it’s just a stupid place.
omg congrats!!! this shows that you made it. in all honesty, ppl on social media, especially kpop fans take things so seriously that they solely convince themselves that situations can only be veiwed as a black or white situation. there's no room for further discussions.
I am so grateful for your videos, you do such a good job of creating a space where K-pop fans can come and discuss their ideas. So much of you talking points have crossed my mind to and I’m more than grateful to have a space when those thoughts can be explored. I think unfortunately some people aren’t interested in the truth online. Or being willing to examine all sides of a conversation. But regardless, keep doing you! ❤
I think its also important to note that the ensuing tweets were responding to screenshots out of context, not the actual videos. If they had watched the videos maybe they would have realised the comparison was not serious. We should all be careful when we react to a screenshot or a short clip out of context. If we dont know the whole story or bother to watch the videos then maybe we shouldnt comment on it. I try not to post about, retweet, or reply to anything about controversies unless ive watched the original content in question (im not perfect but im trying).
2:34 OH MY GOSH I HATE HATE HATE HOW BLINKS ARE ALWAYS USED AS THE “TOXIC” AND “RUDE” FANDOM , Bro as a blink I can’t even defend my ot4 girls without getting hated for it:/
with tweets like this its evident that media literacy is at an all time low, extra ironic that they're posturing themselves as oh so educated and intelligent while (willfully, or not) majorly misunderstanding your sarcasm 😭
that TANNIESSTAR girlie still ain't giving up she's like "it’s just me pointing out hYpOcRiSy...at the end of the day sarcasm or not my point still stands so idgaf" 🤓☝
If you happen to see this, my humble advise is to not bother with people who obviously can't be bothered. Clearly, this person has no intention of adding anything of value to the conversation. Meet people with the same level of energy. If they cant be called up to healthy discourse, don't engage or disengage. But if you do engage, a response video is a great teaching/reflection opportunity for a teachable viewer.
the way all the hate tweets are coming from a very certain fandom who cannot fathom a single member of blackpink receiving a tiny compliment even if it is so obviously sarcastic. they hate blackpink so much that their brains just turn to mush the moment they hear a kind word spoken to them
kpop stans on twitter are literally not sane pls because why did so many of the replies think that the lishakespeare comment was 100% serious....😭😭im honestly concerned for them
Ugh so true the blackpink hatred that runs rampant on twitter and Reddit is insaneeeee. AND it would be SOMETHING if they idk were like Mera or were ever saying something of value or ever even arguing in good faith… but they’re NOT. It’s so tired like they’re not even really a group anymore istg…
i remember seeing that tweet and just being like ??? some kpop stans would rather commit the worst crime than admit blackpink and the members can have good songs
IM DEAD 💀it’s hilarious watching them hate on something you did…that you didn’t even do. Like? It’s sarcasm? People on twitter can’t use their brains I swear.
this is why i like your comment section, people are rational in it and understand jokes/sarcasm. kpop discussion anywhere else is like wandering into the depths of silent hill and it scares me. i’m sorry that people are being horrible to you over spliced clips :/
I think that tweet shows how hypocritical kpop stans are bc they love to create narratives about what groups deserve to be liked/disliked by rallying other stans around things that arent true or are out of context. Obviously most people will be hypocritical but when its so blatant from the outside, it makes you go "??? maybe you should try to step back..." I've seen twitter mutuals just turn into more angry, insufferable people because they haven't taken a step back, its kinda sad
bro...as someone who is on armytwt I am embarrassed. I never saw this tweet or any replies to it until seeing this video, so that assures me I follow the right people, but the feud between armys and blinks is crazy. some armys will take anything out of context to twist the narrative and pretend kpop stans are all blinks who stan everything blackpink does and secretly hate all hybe groups. this is so dumb
As a D1 Hater this pisses me off. I hate for fun and that’s that, but these Blinks and Armys make hating annoying. What’s the fun of it? Explore will ya? I just hate people in general. It’s hard to really generalize a fandom so don’t be going around “Armys” or “Blinks” or any fandoms. Cause although your experience with them is harsh, that doesn’t mean they are all bad. That should be common sense. Either you confronted 10,000 bad fans, don’t generalize them if there is 1 good one. It’s easy as that and it’s hard. But I really dislike humans in a grey area of general sense. It’s hard, philosophically, we all experience harshness from groups of people. That’s nature. It’s abundant in our community and the hierarchy of evil fans are usually large fandoms. But I hate not people but the dimwit; dim-minded and insane stupendous actions that spark conflicts that entertain my very essence. I sound evil and sorry. But hating is fun when you know that what you hate is worth hating. Not towards people but towards their experience of hate and what that hate has done to make them do these decisions. As of the story, I admit, I liked and reposted and almost-ALMOST commented. They played you really well, twisted your words and everything. Well done for Tannie for propaganda and well done for you to clear the air. You can’t really do anything about it anyways. For Tannie, this is a win. They got your attention and got you talking, for you, you won cause you cleared the air. But I’m just here cause I hate the haters who make other haters look bad. And I will admit, it made me feel mad at you…but I did get the context so I had no reason to hate cause I watched your video before that tweet got posted. For a person who doesn’t know anything, that tweet is everything they needed to hate you. As a Katseye fan, it stung, I’m gonna be honest but I watched your video before that tweet. So I knew context. So in the end, when you hate. Hate with passion and not tomfoolery. -Sincerely, a Hater who hates for fun. (P.S. Stream Rockstar and Debut🎉)
I sincerely think this is one of the best, most thought-provoking comments I’ve ever read on this channel 😭 I don’t think I’ve ever seriously considered the idea of hating for fun, but it does make a lot of sense in the way you explained it. I’ve been staring at this for a couple of minutes just admiring how unexpectedly profound it is - the D1 hater introduction caught me off guard haha - I think the answer to misery-sourced hatred is to dive into *why* people experience hate, and to find the fun and joy that can come out of hating things, as you said, that are truly worth being hated
@@choujimi Well, I am deeply honored to have given you some thought. I do hope the best for you for the upcoming days as this situation burns brightly. Keep it up choujimi. As for the “why” people are getting hate. It’s quite the obvious. Pride and you could make a video of it however it would be time consuming and kind of out of ordinary but then again, K-pop is not ordinary. It’s human nature, you like something and others like other things. And when other things threaten your passion of likeness, you tend to get out of control. It’s human psychology and philosophy really, I mean. How dare they treat my bias’s photocard so lightly and treat their own bias’s photocard so godly and beautiful? Same thing as a Fandom. Difference in likeness, just toned down in passion. Sorry to yap really, but this community is full of uneducated haters unlike yours truly. People need to get educated on such. The most basic thing that we were taught is to care for others yet we destroy its message so easily. Most are driven by passion and emotion. In short, how much they love and what they feel after being criticized on what they love. Experiences from those critics also form a cloud of automatic judgement to those groups of critics hence the spark of a blinded hater. So when an individual gets hated on by their love and expression of their fav group, using words that they feel is appropriate as of the time being; not really thinking ahead of what critics may nitpick, that individual’s hate meter is guaranteed by everyone and whichever other fandom is dominant, they automatically see that fandom as “BAD” but that’s not the case. It’s more in-depth but sorry for taking your time😭 -Sincerely D1 Hater (P.S. Hang in there👍)
Once I found a video in Russian TH-cam segment called something like "why newjeans is a flop group/over-hyped/etc". I really like NewJeans and at the time I was sort of insecure about coming to like k-pop, so I decided to watch it. I have gathered my courage to face my mistakes and inability to pick good music and realisation that my music taste is mid and to be nearly destroyed by some good arguments about it. Needless to say my expectations to that video were so high I was nervous - only to hear something like "they got more listeners than blackpink and bts so they are obviously on payola so they are bad". Bruh, I really felt disappointed, because I expected some reasonable critique, debating, proofs, something, at very least, and all I got was click bait. Like, when I was getting ready to watch that video, I came up with better list on what is bad about NewJeans, and I am fan of them. And everybody in the comment section seemed to be agree with the creator saying stuff like "yeah I knew something wrong with them". So I get you (in terms of really weird and not thought-trough hate/criticism). Can't believe that twit got 308k views.... P. S. I really enjoy your videos, you have really good opinions on some matters, and I hope you don't pay too much attention to some internet weirdos, cause it's not really worth anybody's time. Thank you for your videos.
BRUH- kpop twitter can act so special sometimes its annoying. Saw their reaction to this and they’re backtracking & acting “unbothered” whilst CLEARLY being bothered 💀leave it to them to take everything out of context to try to get their five seconds of fame and a hit tweet that'll go stale by two days
i love you so much, the way you calmly explain and you were being kind to the tweet poster. like you actually are one of the best kpop commentary youtubers imo. ❤🫶🏻
I’m sure Lisa was not sitting in her mansion getting ready to go live and thank her fans for defending her over AN EXTREMELY OBVIOUS JOKE 😭🤷🏽♀️ MY 6 YEAR OLD COUSIN would’ve been able to tell that’s a joke 😭
This is why every day I am thankful I don't have Twitter😭 Something interesting I think is I see so many people talk about how stans are willing to blindly like songs from popular groups bc it's them (Blackpink and its members, New Jeans) but I feel like VERY few people talk about how the exact opposite is also true and this is a perfect example. Not everyone is going to be a fan of Rockstar and thats fine, but before I listened to it I saw so many people talking about how terrible it was. Then when I actually listened to it I was suprised how much hate it was getting (I really like it honestly) and I was like huh I think some people just really don't like Lisa because this is not that bad???
nah cuz twitter is WILD, the last tweets are really disgusting and disturbing! i hope you're okay, it's so awfull to reseve these things, and the comment about literacy is so hypocritical, cuz if they really cared abt literacy, they would've watch your full video! i could never take stan twitter seriously, the hate they have for bp is so weird, it's like these women personally assaulted them wtf. ALSO I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!! they are always such a treat
i have never heard a single person in my ENTIRE LIFE use the “welcome back ____” or compare something/one to shakespeare in a serious manner. it has always been in a satirical tone 😭 how are people SO DENSE
Exactly ... the same conclusion I came to in the comment I just posted about dense cabbage lol
They seriously took that tweet out of context and made a big deal out of an opinion when it wasn't even that big of a deal........
People seriously lack in actually WATCHING a video for research for their own opinions sometimes.
kpop stans hate opinions. they use every opinion they don't like to hate on others
it's even more jarring how casually homophobic alot of people were acting geez 😬 yikes
1:57 satire lmao no it’s called sarcasm 😂
2:48 I’m sorry what’s with the casual homophobia in these last couple of tweets??? People really have no morals huh.
people unironically using sissy in the year of 2024... they think they're regina george
Baby troglodytes do it because they are cringelords, they think it makes them cool.
on twitter casual homophobia is usually passed as a joke. imo tho its just internalized homophobia in gay kpop stans
calling someone ‘subhuman’ is wayyyyy past casual like there’s no way they’re passing that off as a joke.
@@harlastra casual as in they’re saying it like they think it’s nothing. Like yeah calling someone subhuman is way past casual so I don’t understand how they can say it so casually as if they didn’t just say something so vile
rip sarcasm, it was good when ppl used to recognize it 🙏
Its so funny to see how people on Twitter are unable to use basic thinking skills
people in general, I see this shit on all platforms 💀
@@felixsfreklestwitter users are always “special”
It's called X now, not Twitter
@@HectorH-M No shit Sherlock thank you for that life changing information 🤓
@@Suprise.dlamini Make sure to address it properly next time
that last tweet was VILE something about fandom really brings out the worst in people. like why are we being homophobic over a youtuber's silly lil joke
don't even get me started on how none of these people can even tell it was a joke like PLEASE OPEN THE SCHOOLS
The people who engage in fanwars on twitter are really bigoted.
@@r17-f6b very true sadly
No like seriously, they think they ate with the hate tweets when they just embarrass themselves. Like sarcasm doesn't exist on twitter or what
as a twitter user, no it doesnt 😭. when i saw that tweet i was like not them trying to come for choujimi... i repiled does scarcasm not exist..? and someone starting cooking me GOODNIGHT? 😭.
The tweet going “this has to be satire” like darling you’re so close 😭😭😭😭
"Shakespeare ult" 😭NAWH FRRR
LMAO 💀
as someone who most people would consider pretentious about writing, I thought the Shakespeare joke was funny 😭
I, too, laughed out loud at the Shakespeare joke
it’s you!!!! 😦
Who? Why the 😮 emoji
This is a pretty healthy responce to your first (and most definitely not the last) hate tweet. It's impossible to please everyone on the internet, but it's good to reflect on things one does regardless. Healthy boundaries couples with a willingness to take criticism and grow. Thank you for your work here on this channel, you make this community a better place!
As someone who's not on twitter, this wave of answers doesn't feel real
no, THAT tweet is the reason why nobody takes kpop stans seriously
edit: ok lowkey i made this comment before i heard king say it himself so i feel stupid but it still stands!
For real 😭
They could never make me hate you
i dont wanna be that person using the new term of the week.. but the response & that tweet was seriously showing peoples lack of media literacy like you were so clearly not being serious 😭😭😭😭
edit: maybe media literacy isnt the right term in this context, but generally just an inability to understand clear unseriousness like??
i giggled at that person saying "u should go back to school to learn media literacy" or smth while completely missing Obvious sarcasm. insane lack of self awareness. also what does media literacy even have to do w thinking a song lyric is good 😭
@@kendikrush im confused by this reply and maybe i wasnt quite clear in which case my bad?!? i was agreeing w u and said that i found it funny how someone who was attacking choujimi for this was claiming he lacked media literacy when they didnt understand that he wasnt being serious
@@diastreblwsh ohh im sorry i misunderstood 😭😭 sorry i thought you were against what i was saying
@@diastreblwsh re read what you said & i get what you meant now sorry again 😭🫶🏽
The slurs???????
THIS ONE, bc are we gonna pretend they aren't being blatantly homophobic?? And I bet these same stans are the first to start shipping same sex idols or obsessing over fanservice too
Exactly…these ppl are always losing the plot & resorting to problematic behavior😭
i cant even, the person who made fun of choujimi's voice for it sounding twinky?? yall have not seen what that man look like wtf..
... They couldn't even come up with actual criticisms that my brain blocked those out. God, Twitter users amirite.
@@joyjoyace EG ZAC LEE
The homophobia in those tweets was insane 😳
The fact that you were willing to show sympathy for this person is absolutely wild,😭 you're way too kind of a person but also we seriously need more kind energy in this fandom so fuck it keep doing what you're doing❤
he fr did the Michael Jackson lowering the gun gif
Bringing up that gif while the main comment has that pfp of Jennie with a gun make it extra funny.
not to be a fan but you're the sole reason why I take kpop stans seriously
Is genuinely scares me how quickly K-pop Stan’s on twitter will resort to insulting comments and slurs to any form of criticism of K-pop releases. Good faith criticism is used in every creative field. Wanting to provide feedback to an artist (especially recent K-pop groups and global groups) who are trying to reach the largest market they can shouldn’t be seen as hate.
It's called X, not Twitter
i saw that tweet and was gonna comment "OKAY NTM ON CHOUJIMI THATS KING RIGHT THERE 😭😭" but its was late when i read it so i didnt 😭
The fact that they couldn't understand basic sarcasm is alarming. It also shows that they didn't watch the complete video. They look really silly now, making a joke their whole point. Those Twitter users are the reason people don't take K-pop seriously, cause they seem disconnected from the world. Yes, not understanding basic sarcasm is being disconnected, and only using it to prove a point is weird. Great video, luv, don't let haters, and idiotic haters at that get in your way!
i saw the tweets omg people are weird and inhumane as hell. aside from how much they hated blackpink they were saying horrible things about you and i hope you're okay dawg ur one of my fav content creators and i love your video essays😭❤️
that kind of ppl is why i left kpoptwt.... get behind me choujimi!
The best way to tell how famous you are is by the amount of hate you recieve 👍
of course most of the people who got angry about that silly tweet are armys, it's so funny how they love a group that is all about self-love just to go on twitter to call someone a slur over a joke.
HELP they are embarrassing themselves over n over again..
Anyone who has a problem with Choujmi has a problem with me!
you twitter debut 😍 but seriously twt stans have no critical thinking skills when it comes to anything kpop then act like they are somehow the best judges
The fact that most of the accounts are armys doesn’t surprise me. Even a possibility that someone might appreciate Blackpink or its members is enough to set them off. But the aggressive protection they have for HYBE is scary and cultish.
i agree with this comment, im not defending anyone. but what i find more surprising is how every other fandom does this yet never gets called out for it 😅 this is a typical miserable kpop stan behavior
@@warda2739 erm no? you don't see loona or seventeen fans harassing the blackpink members all over twitter 😅
it's pretty interesting you say that because from my general experience, a lot of the really aggressive hate ive seen on kpop posts/videos/tweets has come from blinks. now thats not to say your point is wrong because i have encountered a few wild armys as well. im personally a huge once and it seems that some blinks cant stand twice's long standing popularity (which is dumb because blackpink is from my understanding just as popular as them and theyre also friends with twice lol) basically im just trying to say its interesting how the circles of the internet we use will show us different aspects, in this case some armys being wack or in my personal case some blinks hating other girl groups hope what i was trying to say made sense
We don’t protect hybe we protect our fav artist
But the army’s who start hate for no reason don’t deserve to call themselves that
Also for u to call our fandom cultish by the actions of few isn’t the best approach
As army’s we are used to amazing lyricism unlike blinks so we have a high standard in terms of that
sorry if our actions seem hyper critical when they are just speaking or the truth or are actually hateful
@@warda2739 the way armys in particular go about "stanning their company" is like no other tho. they dehumanize and insult anyone especially women that they see as any sort of threat to bts or hybe. The fact that Jennie in particular is still being sl*tshamed for being caught with V and the way armys switched up fast on newjeans and started saying unspeakable things about those girls because of the minheejin controversy...
they privated their account 😭
just the average BTS fan taking offense over something that does not have anything to do with them or the group
I have a theory as to why they are so mad.
Althought Armys are not hybe stans, Hybe stans are armys what i mean is that a lot of hybe stans happen to be armys even though A huge amount of Armys don't particularly care for Hybe. One of the main weapons of attacks against other kpop groups and particularly Blackpink was lyrics. They claimed that BTS talked about important issues in their songs and although they weren't wrong, it was a bullying tactic and a weapon that got a little rusty once BTS released the English trilogy(cute songs but light on lyrics). This issue of lyrics have also been extended to the rest of hybe artists(as in all hybe artists just have better lyrics than everyone else on the kpop industry) Blackpink have been demeaned because a lot of their lyrics was basically flexing (i think this isn't true and blackpink has some heartfelt songs as well) so to see someone calling Lisa Shakespeare(even though he was being sarcastic) enrages them because in their world, there is no way Blackpink can beat BTS at anything
@@mitchierainbow7353 armys are hybe stans. i'm someone who ults bts and was active in the twitter fandom until last month. recently they've proved that they're hybe stans. they hate newjeans for "betraying" hybe. they also believe bts built the hybe building from the ground up when it's actually just a rented building that each hybe subsidiary pays rent to occupy. ofc bts are the reason behind why hybe was able to form in the first place. but many armys forget that bts don't need hybe. hybe needs them.
@@mitchierainbow7353have you listen to every single group before jumping into that conclusion?? pretty sure blackpink doesn't represent all other kpop group
@@songkang3xsrvx what conclusion, the one about lyrics? Because blackpink does have deeper lyrics? And I never said Blackpink represents kpop artists I only said that they are one of the targets of armys when it comes to the lyrics issue.
@@mitchierainbow7353 Army fight with everyone not just blinks
I replied to this - all hybe artist just has been better lyrics than everyone else on kpop industry. Pretty sure bp doesn't represent all kpop industry
if a kpop stan is even on twitter, they shouldnt have the right to even insult ppl for how chronically online they are 💀💀
The fact that people were dropping slurs over and OBVIOUS JOKE out of context-
Disgusting.
this reminded me of that tweet of that woman who tweeted an innocent post about her and her husband drinking tea everyday or something sweet like that and some replies of the comments were "not everyone has the ability to enjoy such stuff cause they have chronic illness!" "you don't have to put it on our face cause i have 7 hours of work with little paycheck!". Taking it too personally for no reason. And this is one of them.
this is why i don’t be on twitter man don’t let them get to u
One thing about the little 7 accounts and Hybe (the company) stans… they will find things to be angry about, dont take them seriously it’s just been awhile since they touched grass ao they’re feisty
kpop stans' inability to get a joke when its entire existence is setup for it
like let me leave my funny comments without fear of being taken seriously PLEASE
i'm crying why is everything so serious to twitter stans 😭😭
I was here when you still had 600 subscribers and I'm so happy with how much your channel has grown 😭😭😭❤❤
I found it kind of funny, but I have seen legit people not being sarcastic and switching up on opinions in videos depending on the groups they talk about, so hadnt I not known your channel and the videos, I wouldnt have thought twice about that because, yeah seen stuff like that genuinly before and wouldnt be suprised tbh😅
The media literacy of of twitter users should be shocking, but now this is par for the course.
what kind of mental gymnastics do you have to do even reach that conclusion, like bro kpop twitter is doing some Simone biles shit I swear-
kpop stans try to have fun challenge (failed)
THE SUBHUMAN TWEET??;?:?::?
Okay as an army, more specifically a twitter army, I think I can tell you a bit more about the context you ended up falling into.
That account is what we call on army twitter a “shooter” which is someone who just goes on the app to fight in fanwars: they engage with antis, they make horrible tweets about other groups and basically make the stanning experience miserable for all their followers.
As an army I’ve definitely seen the worst part of blink twitter, they’re honestly horrible. And I’m sure many blinks have seen the worst of the worst of army twitter.
These fanwars are constantly ongoing and most of us don’t even pay attention to them anymore. They honestly got revived more with Jimin and Lisa releasing music on the same day, which I’m sure was made on purpose by one of the two labels or maybe it was a coincidence bc there wasn’t any big competition in the western releases of that day.
All this to say, don’t worry. Twitter people just love looking for someone to hate on for the day and then they move on. Armys in particular are constantly fighting off hate trains that are joined by many many many fandoms for no reason so many shooters tend to have this mentality of “giving back the same energy”. But, honestly? Most of us are really normal there.
I do gotta say, katseye seems to already have a fandom full of shooters. I’ve already gotten ratioed by them. So I’d be careful around them.
Anyway, keep making videos, the person had to know your channel in the first place to even screen record and post the clips on twitter so clearly they’re watching
"lol I knew he was gonna get dragged some day"
cue getting "dragged" for the most absurd shi* 🤪😂
kpop twitter is one of the worst echo chambers i have been apart of. i think its ‘peak brainrot’ from sexualising idols & casual porn to wishing death upon people & hating others to performative activism. i have created a new account and recently i have gotten tons of ‘xyz threads’ on my for you again… i always click ‘im not interested in this post’ to get it off from my algorithm. if i want to interact with kpop fans in a serious manner or get genuine nice updates, i either just use the following section on twitter since those tweets are just by the accounts i follow or use reddit or youtube since people are willing to listen to your opinion and exchange thoughts regarding something. since twitter became X, you don’t even necessarily get to communicate with people unless you get a stupid hit tweet or fish for likes under a popular post, it’s just a stupid place.
I don't know how people believed it 😭😭
congrats you've finally made it on ktube
Following in your footsteps 😭 I have all the more respect for you and what you put up with lol
all those 7s...
More tea and rants? Alexa, look for the popcorns 🍿
Not the homophobia in the tweets ı cried lol
Its always that perticular fandom. Its not a surprise anymore.
Wow, that hate train turned homophobic in a hurry. Yikes.
omg congrats!!! this shows that you made it. in all honesty, ppl on social media, especially kpop fans take things so seriously that they solely convince themselves that situations can only be veiwed as a black or white situation. there's no room for further discussions.
I am so grateful for your videos, you do such a good job of creating a space where K-pop fans can come and discuss their ideas. So much of you talking points have crossed my mind to and I’m more than grateful to have a space when those thoughts can be explored.
I think unfortunately some people aren’t interested in the truth online. Or being willing to examine all sides of a conversation. But regardless, keep doing you! ❤
I think its also important to note that the ensuing tweets were responding to screenshots out of context, not the actual videos. If they had watched the videos maybe they would have realised the comparison was not serious.
We should all be careful when we react to a screenshot or a short clip out of context. If we dont know the whole story or bother to watch the videos then maybe we shouldnt comment on it. I try not to post about, retweet, or reply to anything about controversies unless ive watched the original content in question (im not perfect but im trying).
2:34 OH MY GOSH I HATE HATE HATE HOW BLINKS ARE ALWAYS USED AS THE “TOXIC” AND “RUDE” FANDOM , Bro as a blink I can’t even defend my ot4 girls without getting hated for it:/
with tweets like this its evident that media literacy is at an all time low, extra ironic that they're posturing themselves as oh so educated and intelligent while (willfully, or not) majorly misunderstanding your sarcasm 😭
They really can't sense any sarcasm and are trying to start fanwars over out of context clips💀
that TANNIESSTAR girlie still ain't giving up she's like "it’s just me pointing out hYpOcRiSy...at the end of the day sarcasm or not my point still stands so idgaf" 🤓☝
congrats choujimi for the first hate tweet ! 🥳
I feel smarter as i watch the tweet replies.
If you happen to see this, my humble advise is to not bother with people who obviously can't be bothered. Clearly, this person has no intention of adding anything of value to the conversation. Meet people with the same level of energy. If they cant be called up to healthy discourse, don't engage or disengage. But if you do engage, a response video is a great teaching/reflection opportunity for a teachable viewer.
the way all the hate tweets are coming from a very certain fandom who cannot fathom a single member of blackpink receiving a tiny compliment even if it is so obviously sarcastic. they hate blackpink so much that their brains just turn to mush the moment they hear a kind word spoken to them
Sorry you got your first hate tweet but also congratulations at the same time
“this has to be a satire i refuse to believe this is real” you’re getting the hang of it!
kpop stans on twitter are literally not sane pls because why did so many of the replies think that the lishakespeare comment was 100% serious....😭😭im honestly concerned for them
Ugh so true the blackpink hatred that runs rampant on twitter and Reddit is insaneeeee. AND it would be SOMETHING if they idk were like Mera or were ever saying something of value or ever even arguing in good faith… but they’re NOT. It’s so tired like they’re not even really a group anymore istg…
i remember seeing that tweet and just being like ??? some kpop stans would rather commit the worst crime than admit blackpink and the members can have good songs
At least they're giving that video views!
IM DEAD 💀it’s hilarious watching them hate on something you did…that you didn’t even do. Like? It’s sarcasm? People on twitter can’t use their brains I swear.
choujimi they could never make me hate you
well twitter is a battlefield if this happens just ignore it and just dgaf
icb twt stans took that seriously LMAOAOAOAOAO NOW THAT IS WHY NOBODY TAKE KPOP STANS SERIOUSLY!
this is why i like your comment section, people are rational in it and understand jokes/sarcasm. kpop discussion anywhere else is like wandering into the depths of silent hill and it scares me. i’m sorry that people are being horrible to you over spliced clips :/
I think that tweet shows how hypocritical kpop stans are bc they love to create narratives about what groups deserve to be liked/disliked by rallying other stans around things that arent true or are out of context. Obviously most people will be hypocritical but when its so blatant from the outside, it makes you go "??? maybe you should try to step back..." I've seen twitter mutuals just turn into more angry, insufferable people because they haven't taken a step back, its kinda sad
bro...as someone who is on armytwt I am embarrassed. I never saw this tweet or any replies to it until seeing this video, so that assures me I follow the right people, but the feud between armys and blinks is crazy. some armys will take anything out of context to twist the narrative and pretend kpop stans are all blinks who stan everything blackpink does and secretly hate all hybe groups. this is so dumb
me acting surprised that twitter users are brain-rotted and can’t pick up on obvious sarcasm: 🤯🤯🤯🙀🙀🙊
As a D1 Hater this pisses me off. I hate for fun and that’s that, but these Blinks and Armys make hating annoying. What’s the fun of it? Explore will ya? I just hate people in general. It’s hard to really generalize a fandom so don’t be going around “Armys” or “Blinks” or any fandoms. Cause although your experience with them is harsh, that doesn’t mean they are all bad. That should be common sense. Either you confronted 10,000 bad fans, don’t generalize them if there is 1 good one. It’s easy as that and it’s hard. But I really dislike humans in a grey area of general sense. It’s hard, philosophically, we all experience harshness from groups of people. That’s nature. It’s abundant in our community and the hierarchy of evil fans are usually large fandoms. But I hate not people but the dimwit; dim-minded and insane stupendous actions that spark conflicts that entertain my very essence. I sound evil and sorry. But hating is fun when you know that what you hate is worth hating. Not towards people but towards their experience of hate and what that hate has done to make them do these decisions.
As of the story, I admit, I liked and reposted and almost-ALMOST commented. They played you really well, twisted your words and everything. Well done for Tannie for propaganda and well done for you to clear the air. You can’t really do anything about it anyways. For Tannie, this is a win. They got your attention and got you talking, for you, you won cause you cleared the air. But I’m just here cause I hate the haters who make other haters look bad. And I will admit, it made me feel mad at you…but I did get the context so I had no reason to hate cause I watched your video before that tweet got posted.
For a person who doesn’t know anything, that tweet is everything they needed to hate you. As a Katseye fan, it stung, I’m gonna be honest but I watched your video before that tweet. So I knew context. So in the end, when you hate. Hate with passion and not tomfoolery.
-Sincerely, a Hater who hates for fun. (P.S. Stream Rockstar and Debut🎉)
I sincerely think this is one of the best, most thought-provoking comments I’ve ever read on this channel 😭 I don’t think I’ve ever seriously considered the idea of hating for fun, but it does make a lot of sense in the way you explained it.
I’ve been staring at this for a couple of minutes just admiring how unexpectedly profound it is - the D1 hater introduction caught me off guard haha - I think the answer to misery-sourced hatred is to dive into *why* people experience hate, and to find the fun and joy that can come out of hating things, as you said, that are truly worth being hated
@@choujimi Well, I am deeply honored to have given you some thought. I do hope the best for you for the upcoming days as this situation burns brightly. Keep it up choujimi.
As for the “why” people are getting hate. It’s quite the obvious. Pride and you could make a video of it however it would be time consuming and kind of out of ordinary but then again, K-pop is not ordinary. It’s human nature, you like something and others like other things. And when other things threaten your passion of likeness, you tend to get out of control. It’s human psychology and philosophy really, I mean. How dare they treat my bias’s photocard so lightly and treat their own bias’s photocard so godly and beautiful? Same thing as a Fandom. Difference in likeness, just toned down in passion.
Sorry to yap really, but this community is full of uneducated haters unlike yours truly. People need to get educated on such. The most basic thing that we were taught is to care for others yet we destroy its message so easily. Most are driven by passion and emotion. In short, how much they love and what they feel after being criticized on what they love. Experiences from those critics also form a cloud of automatic judgement to those groups of critics hence the spark of a blinded hater. So when an individual gets hated on by their love and expression of their fav group, using words that they feel is appropriate as of the time being; not really thinking ahead of what critics may nitpick, that individual’s hate meter is guaranteed by everyone and whichever other fandom is dominant, they automatically see that fandom as “BAD” but that’s not the case. It’s more in-depth but sorry for taking your time😭
-Sincerely D1 Hater
(P.S. Hang in there👍)
Once I found a video in Russian TH-cam segment called something like "why newjeans is a flop group/over-hyped/etc". I really like NewJeans and at the time I was sort of insecure about coming to like k-pop, so I decided to watch it. I have gathered my courage to face my mistakes and inability to pick good music and realisation that my music taste is mid and to be nearly destroyed by some good arguments about it. Needless to say my expectations to that video were so high I was nervous - only to hear something like "they got more listeners than blackpink and bts so they are obviously on payola so they are bad". Bruh, I really felt disappointed, because I expected some reasonable critique, debating, proofs, something, at very least, and all I got was click bait. Like, when I was getting ready to watch that video, I came up with better list on what is bad about NewJeans, and I am fan of them.
And everybody in the comment section seemed to be agree with the creator saying stuff like "yeah I knew something wrong with them".
So I get you (in terms of really weird and not thought-trough hate/criticism). Can't believe that twit got 308k views....
P. S. I really enjoy your videos, you have really good opinions on some matters, and I hope you don't pay too much attention to some internet weirdos, cause it's not really worth anybody's time.
Thank you for your videos.
BRUH- kpop twitter can act so special sometimes its annoying. Saw their reaction to this and they’re backtracking & acting “unbothered” whilst CLEARLY being bothered 💀leave it to them to take everything out of context to try to get their five seconds of fame and a hit tweet that'll go stale by two days
i love you so much, the way you calmly explain and you were being kind to the tweet poster. like you actually are one of the best kpop commentary youtubers imo. ❤🫶🏻
and all of them were army… lord help us all
LMAO THEY DELETED THE TWEET I CANT
I’m sure Lisa was not sitting in her mansion getting ready to go live and thank her fans for defending her over AN EXTREMELY OBVIOUS JOKE 😭🤷🏽♀️ MY 6 YEAR OLD COUSIN would’ve been able to tell that’s a joke 😭
This is why every day I am thankful I don't have Twitter😭 Something interesting I think is I see so many people talk about how stans are willing to blindly like songs from popular groups bc it's them (Blackpink and its members, New Jeans) but I feel like VERY few people talk about how the exact opposite is also true and this is a perfect example. Not everyone is going to be a fan of Rockstar and thats fine, but before I listened to it I saw so many people talking about how terrible it was. Then when I actually listened to it I was suprised how much hate it was getting (I really like it honestly) and I was like huh I think some people just really don't like Lisa because this is not that bad???
THE FACT THAT ALL THE RETWEETS ARE AMYS OMG
I remember when an once posted a meme on twitter about nayeon's comeback sayin "welcome back Beyonce" and the people got really mad 😭 IT'S A JOKE OMG
This response was fantastic. The high road while still making them look like losers. Bravo!
Everyday's life of twitter kpop stans, believing almost everything on first hand without confirming or checking resources~
Choujimi we love you
nah cuz twitter is WILD, the last tweets are really disgusting and disturbing! i hope you're okay, it's so awfull to reseve these things, and the comment about literacy is so hypocritical, cuz if they really cared abt literacy, they would've watch your full video! i could never take stan twitter seriously, the hate they have for bp is so weird, it's like these women personally assaulted them wtf. ALSO I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!! they are always such a treat
“this is why kpop stans are not taken seriously” they said about an unserious comment
THE RANDOM HOMOPHOBIA? OVER A CLEARLY SARCASTIC KPOP COMMENT TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT? those replies are the real reason kpop stans are taken as a joke
seeing all those people respond like that makes me feel pain just because of how dumb they are
K-pop stans try to understand sarcasm: impossible challenge
They could never make me hate you, Choujimi
I saw it on twitter but i still love you pookie ❤