Deep Drop Seminar - Florida Sport Fishing TV - Tilefish Feeding Frenzy
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- Filmed live at our Extreme Seminar Series event. More than an hour of useful info, tips, tricks tactics and techniques to help you fill the coolers. I discuss rods, reels, line, leaders, baits, lights, locations, different species and so much more.
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Captain Mike was born to do this! Great knowledge sharing with his followers is priceless 😀
Thank you for watching. - Capt Mike
I love these seminars, priceless! So educational, I wished I could attend one in person
Thank you for watching. - Capt Mike
Captain Mike. I wanted to thank you for your videos. I've watched a lot of them. I'm a newbie who got into fishing because my son loves it! we bought a boat and have tried for almost a year to bottom fish, troll and high speed troll all with very little to no success. None the less we love being on our boat and being on the water. Yesterday we tried deep dropping for the first time after i saw your deep dropping seminar. And just like you said we went out to 800 feet out of hillsboro and we hooked up on rosies. The joy and excitement that my son who is 12 and I who am 40 when we saw that first fish was amazing. We had a great day and brought home dinner. I can't tell you how grateful I am for your videos. You do a great job explaining to the noobs like me. I don't mean ramble here but i just wanted to thank you again. we had a great day!!!! Please keep the videos coming , guys like me can use them. We are going to the keys in a couple of weeks for our first fishing trip . Please wish us luck and if you have any tips I would be in debt to you sir.
Thanks for watching, stay in touch.
Thank you Capt.Mike
I live in roatan, honduras. We fish deep drop from 750ft to 1200ft for all kinds of snappers and groupers with manual hand mills or 50w hand reels like real man do!!🤣 i like capt. Mike I put alot of his advice in use, specially on rigs. but you need 2 to 5 grand of gear to Fish like he does or recommends. There is cheaper yet still as effective ways of fishing. I get he is most likely sponsored by these big brands to promote this stuff. Your awesome capt. Mike good seminar. Me and 2 friends caught 260 lbs of snappers yesterday 7am to 5pm
2 50w reels with ten hook rigs 2 1/2 lbs leds. 740 to 800 ft depth.
20 miles off our island. Came back and gave all our catch away to family and friends. Best feeling the world
I have been fishing for 40 years in SoFla and the Caribbean but not much deep dropping. This is the clearest, most perfectly understandable and informative lecture I have ever seen or heard. Every single point makes perfect sense.
MISSING THESE SEMINARS!
Thank you sir! You guys are a class act, tight lines and see you out there
Love going back and listening to these seminars. I always pick up on something I never knew before or a new tactic to use out offshore. Keep it up, love ya guys!
Thank you for watching. - Capt Mike
Something I have learned through another captain that charters a trip I take at least once a year on an 72 + hour deep drop is once you know that you have a fish most of the time being a gray tile let it sit there for minute longer because grouper come to inspect once there is a disturbance and typically you'll catch a tile and a grouper at the same time. Therefore I run a 3 hook setup
Exceptional as always, Mike. A HUGE thank you! Much appreciate for posting!
Thank you!
This was a great seminar
He releases these awesome seminar videos every time I have homework 😤
Great lecture as usual Captain Mike.
Thank you for watching. - Capt Mike
Excellent seminars!
Glad you think so! Thanks for watching and please join my new streaming channel at www.FSFTV.com. No TH-cam ads, 24/7 fishing helpline, 300+ instructional videos and more!!!
Very helpful, all the way in belize, great deep drop fishing here.
Nice! - Capt Mike
Great video.
Thanks for watching. - Capt Mike
Awesome video 📹. Sir
Thank you, If you havent already, please join my new streaming channel at www.FSFTV.com, 300+ instructional videos, no youtube ads, 24/7 fishing helpline and more! - Capt Mike
very very good !!
Thank you for watching. - Capt Mike
Tried everything you said to do for tile out of Haulover north to Ft. Lauderdale and had zero luck in the four hours we tried. And yes we were exactly in that foot range you said to be in. Not sure what we did wrong.
What hooks are you fishing? bait? weight of lead? are you holing bottom ok? Is your bottom hook close to sinker? Tell me more....- Capt Mike
Hooker electric is definitely one of the best options available today.
Awesome video!!! quick question though, what kind of camera and housing are you using to drop down that deep? Really interested in taking some videos while i deep drop.
GoPro in a Hooker Electric housing.- Capt Mike
how long of a 100# top shot with the 60# braid, Mike?
Great video! How good of eating is a grey tilefish, and what other type of fish is it comparable to on the table?
Delicious, like lobster! In my opinion, better than snapper, etc very delicate and cooks v. fast. - Capt Mike
Capt Mike, where did you hone your lecture skills? Very impressive sir (and I’ve lectured and taught in various post grad programs and it takes practice!). Btw, what is the hot zone for rosies? Never gotten around to deep dropping and would like to score some dinner on Saturday. I saw you guys on sat am when I was pulling out of Alsdorf, Happy to see you on water. Saturday sucked for me, how did you guys do? Thanks again for all your hard work
Thank you for the kind words. I just talk, nothing special, thank you again though. On Saturday we jigged ten blackfin tuna, largest was 20 pounds. Pulled the hook on a couple other mystery fish, thats about it. Current was screaming, tough to fish where I wanted to. Hot depth for roses is 775' around structure, including ledges, exposed rock, etc.
love the video, one question about the top shot.. would you need a mono topshot deep dropping in 1000ft+ ? Since there's so much braid out I would assume the bow of the braid due to current will act as a spring for any movement from the fish/boat.
Ive fished both ways, braid to swivel and braid to 25 foot mono top shot. Ive had excellent success with both but in the event of tangles and/or crossed lines with any one else deep dropping, and for teh extra elasticity when straight up/down, mono top shot is way to go. Please join my new streaming channel at www.FSFTV.com. Over 300 instructional videos, no annoying TH-cam ads, new exclusive content weekly and so much more! - Capt Mike
@@FloridaSportFishing thank you, I'll use that link. Been incorporating your techniques here in Australia
Capt Mike, Great seminar, I was glued to the video presentation and hope to attend one soon. Any info on the Stuart/Jupiter area? I just moved here from Miami and find the fishing to be somewhat different, I go out through the St Lucie inlet, I just got a deep drop rig, Tanacom 1000 and I'll be heading out soon, seems my target depth of 400-450 is a tad past 3 miles here, any advice?
use the freshest squid you can get your hands on and thin wire VMC in line tournament circle hooks. - Capt Mike
Mike, question grey tile is the same as blue line ? 2/ in marathon how far out can we fish tiles.
Thank you so much captain for the great informative interesting video 👍🏻 I have 2 questions:
1- can u recommend a battery for my Tanacom 1000 , I know I need a marine deep cycle one but can u recommend a brand or specific one , also I heard that I can use a jump starter instead of the battery , is that true ?
2- which vmc circle hook u recommend for tilefish , I know u use size 9/0 but which model u recommend
Thank you so much
Are you looking for portable battery, as there are options with smaller batteries you can carry around for 100% mobility, otherwise any quality 12V deep cycle battery will keep that running for days. VMC #7385, 9/0 for big tilefish and golden, a 5/0 for shallower water/blueline tilefish. - Capt Mike
Florida Sport Fishing - thank you for replying , yeah I would like to know the options for a portable battery as most of the deep cycle batteries I found r over 20Ib and i don’t wanna keep disconnecting the cord every time I need to move
Hi Mike.
Great video, watched it many times.
I have two questions i cannot find at noaa or fwc
1. what are the 2018 fed/state regs on barrel fish?
2. If I have 100 pounds of 1 unregulated species like gray tile, can I also have 100 pounds of another unregulated species. or is 100 pound of both species combined the max.
Good question on the barrelfish, not sure if there are any regs, likely falls under the 100 lb. category, and that is per species, however that would be an excessive amount of bottom fish to harvest in a single day, big family? - Capt Mike
Hi Mike, No big family but lots of friends and a 4 hour tow each way. Still no plan to retain that much. My main concern was going over by 60 pounds of one species and 55 of the other. Worse, getting cited for keeping a species I think is a different species. This is because I have been here only 2 years. Grouper like Gag, black, Scamp and Warsaw can look similar, especially at different ages. Sure appreciate the jump on the area you have provided in your videos. The live picts of just caught species really help. would love to see a seminar on how to ID each species that looks like others including side by side images of just caught. The little images on FWC and Fed apps just do not show much. Look at 'amber Jack, Lessor Jack and Almaco Jack + one more all look the same in the little picts but the regs are way different.
Have you considered using a trolling motor to keep you in place (new ones with GPS and spot keeper)???
We have used similar trolling motors in many inshore venues with excellent results. We have not used trolling motors offshore but certainly an option, not only with electric trolling motors but also with virtual anchors and spot lock associatted with outboard engines. - Capt Mike
Could i go out to 800ft. On a 20ft. Center console with 150 Yamaha. Thank you Capt. Mike
I really enjoyed this video, I'm new at deep jigging I have the Daiwa Mega Twin which I use for Amberjack, Grouper and Snapper, I have one question if you have time to answer, I have my mono leader tied to my braid but if I'm using a lead weight at the other end do I use a shorter lighter piece of mono in case my weight gets hung up or tie directly onto the heavier leader I'm using? example if my mono leader is 100lb, what weight would that short piece be connected to the weight??????? thank you
Excellent question. When deep dropping, I typically attach lead directly to bottom of deep drop rig. My thought process is that one of the 3 to 5 hooks is what is going to get hung, not the lead. - Capt Mike
do you use a topshot, and if so what lb and length
I don't want to sound foolish by asking this, I understand why you would go heavier on the topshot but in the event of a snag, would the hook give before the line? just curious, and im a newbie to this
where i fish we have lots and lots of sharks so we fish our lightest line on the hooklink so if we get sharked we just lose a hook and hopefully piss the shark off
I was wondering the same thing. Hopefully the hook straightens out before you lose a bunch of braid
Capt Mike I want to know what model of the Diawa reel in the beginning of the video? @ Florida Sport Fishing
Which reel, exactly what time? - Capt Mike
What type of rod for the shallow deep drop (400 to 450ft)?
Great video. I fish from florida panhandle, are the depths for different species same or is it completely different from Atlantic? Also we were out there deep dropping last year 720ft with no luck except one little snapper (forgot what it was called). It was mud bottom, my question is after weight hits the mud should i pull it out of there or just free spooling while drifting ?
Depends on current, ideally, drag baited rig across bottom at .5 to 2 knots, more than that and you have to free spool occasionally to stay in touch with bottom depending on depth, current, weight, etc. Look for structure! - Capt Mike
Thank you, do you know if the rosefish occurance is same at 800' in gom ?
Yes, we catch them occasionally in GOM as well, but nowhere near the numbers of Atlantic. - Capt Mike
Olle Kuusik where do you fish in the panhandle? I deep drop a lot and catch a lot of Golden’s, barrels, yellowedge, snowys, seabass...maybe I can point you in the right direction. I can tell you those fake squid tipped 5 hook setups will work more on the grouper..... not on the golden tiles in the northern gulf. Bait is key up here too. I’ve tested a lot of this...... catching 20pd Golden’s constitently. They key is bonita
I’ll give you something I’ve figured out over 15 years of dropping..... get some or find some rapala rattle trap or thicker walled bass lures with rattles. Take off the hooks. Thicker cause of pressure down deep..... then zip tie one to your weight. I also use a 3 color disco always for tiles. Fresh Bonita is the best for Golden’s.... tested it over and over again vs squid vs 2 reels dropping 10 feet apart and the. Bonita gets bite over squid. Grouper love Bonita too. But that’s 15 years of unique inside tips buddy. Let me know where you fish. I fish out of orange beach and consistently catch lots of fish
Somebody take me deep dropping!!!
BB Rose fish make great soup
Is the Federal limit of two gray tile fish per angler or per boat? Thanks, Al
two in federal waters, 100 lbs p/p in state waters.- Capt Mike
ever tried deep dropping for wreck fish out on the sword grounds when there is less current? 1500 to 2500 foot?
No I have not, Im not even sure if Ive ever even heard of a wreck-fish caught off Broward County.Thanks for watching and please join my new streaming channel at www.FSFTV.com. No TH-cam ads, 24/7 fishing helpline, 300+ instructional videos and more!!!
Is there any federal regulations on the blackbelly rosefish? I've looked it up but I can't find anything about it.
Negative, no rules/regs however be careful, when the bite is on it is easy to get carried away. Keep only what you will eat fresh. - Capt Mike
Where can I get that rod?
Quit custom...
If I drop your name at CHAOS. Are they going to give me a discount?
Tried in 400-450 same with 800 don’t know what I did wrong I used 5lbs in key largo no bites
When fishing at no light zone below 600 feet, I always put a light in the top of the rig. Green chemical glow stick 2 or 3 inches.
Also I use circle hooks because the fish will hook itself.
And like last tip try as bait chiken raw meat because will last longer on hook than fish
Good luck
Why does he use 80lb top shot with 50 lb main line when it's a mud bottom.....
We fish 50 lb braid on power assist electrics, however we now manually fish for gray titles with 30 lb Diamond Braid mainline. Rig is tied on 150 lb. Momoi X-Tra hard leader. - Capt Mike
36:44 just like an edgy teenager
awesome let's teach fisherman how to deplete a resource.
I jumped the gun, you covered Rosies. Sorry 😐
Thanks again for watching. - CM
If I have to take anything from this video, which is something my dad always told me, don’t let it be your fault.
Thats true! Thanks for watching. - Capt Mike
im sure this man knows his stuff but who wants to create a setup that is designed to bring in multiple fish at once unless you are feeding the village ? that just doesn't sound fun even
Doesn't always make sense to deploy a single bait/hook to 500 feet. - Capt Mike