Great analysis for a great waltz. I completely agree with you! And I have ever wondered why Chopin didn't publish it. It's a very rich and original work, full of grace and energy at the same time. I think your discovery about scherzo n.1 similarity is correct and enlighting. Thank you so much for completing the analysis of Chopin posth. work.
Didn't he regret fantasie impromptu bc he wrote that one when he was young and ... "immature" (in his own opinion)? I guess perhaps he got plagiarism accusations re: beethoven moonlight sonata movement 3 (one of the last measures)?? (Interestingly in some music scenes, particularly jazz, plagiarism is a concept that makes no sense, other material is seen merely as other tools or constituent parts to be used freely with no concept of ownership, even if more "egregious" than that for which any lawsuit has ever been filed) lol I'm joking. It's hard to say if that would even conceptually be an issue the way it is seen in the modern era with intellectual property laws the way they are, which is not at all how things have always been seen. I'm just saying I don't know, not one way or the other. It's nothing beyond a single descending run. If it were going up or down a more basic scale nobody would even say anything. But these days lawsuits are filed over pop music which is inherently generic and unoriginal, repetitive with only like 2 or 3 looping sections, it's funny but scary for musicians
I learned this one as a little kid (~25 years ago) Nice to hear how its supposed to be played. I listened to some versions online of professionals playing it (prep for recital back then) but the couple i found then played even more immaturely than I did then lol from what I remember anyway (a number of them seemed to see it as a speed contest) havent taken lessons for >15 years, most of that time with nothing to play on [ignoring guitar]. Your videos are very helpful since ive been trying to get back into it on my own recently. Taught myself jeaux deau over the last 3 months (got notes down which is not the same as mastering it by any means), relearning revolutionary etude, trying to improve this one along with a few debussy works to professional level. Double 3rds and some listz transcendental etudes on the side. And polishing moonlight mvmt 3 only bc naive people think that one is so impressive (millions of yt views for adults when i learned that as a little kid... i.e., "pizza delivery guy sees piano and plays THIS unexpectedly")
You don't know how this video will help me. I'll perform it tomorrow at a piano competition. Thank you very much, few channels do good musical analysis, but there are none like this. Thanks
Thanks for another great lecture. Your analysis always add so much enjoyment to my listening. You’re the Sherlock Holmes of Chopin’s music. BTW, I’m most patiently waiting for your analysis of the concerti
my absolute favorite waltz performed by Chopin! It is really underrated compared other pieces like his nocturnes and prelude. I just wish this was a bit more popular than most of the other nocturnes.
Grzegorz, I am currently learning this beautiful piece. Thank you for the video. Also, what are your thoughts about the variations on la ci darem la mano op 2? I couldn't find a video by you on this piece, I would love to see one
Dear Greg, thank you for an other very interresting and inspiring video. My solution for the Concertos, is 2 pianos together with the wonderfull, beautyfull and talented Anna Lipiak😉!
Really nice piece of classical music. Pleasant to the ears and smooth cadence. Would like to hear a piece of piano concerto in e minor op 11 being played without the orchestra. It would be amazing
A very rich video indeed, thank you! Is there any evidence that Chopin pre-prepared a 'portfolio' of pieces to take with him to Vienna? If he did, that helps with the 1830 date (and makes him very foresighted to have realised in advance the need to call the salons to attention with his intro). But if not, then surely the intro puts this into 1831(+) with the Scherzo, as you think AND: NB, his 2 '1829' Waltzes don't have the 'call to attention' intro. BTW, Wikipedia says 1868 for publication and perhaps the lack of an autograph didn't help??? Since you ask.... You could always analyse the Concerti in the 2-piano versions... (😆😆). For my part, though I'd love to hear you play the Concerti with an Orchestra, I'm keener to hear your analysis of the remaining Posthumous piano works. You do seem to have Concerto No 1 well under your fingers however!
Hi, loved your playing and analysis. I was just wondering how you pedalled the section where the right hand goes b, c, f#, a, g, e, c so like the second theme. Thank you.
Waltz as a dance by its nature it’s intimate because it’s a couple dance , it expresses the passion and connection between a man and a woman . This waltz is very romantic and intimate with a deep meaning . I feel as a man that in the part 31:32 he is expressing his anger and rage about something erotic , maybe he was rejected by a woman that he loved or he didn’t dare to express his feelings to her ? Who knows , I am sure 100% it has something to do with women. It’s not difficult to understand Chopin if you are a man )) Also maybe because my parents were from the Soviet Union I know personally the beauty and charm of Slavic women so I do understand Frederic’s soul perfectly ))
Great analyse as always ! I didn't know that one. It's funny because when you talked about the scherzo, I was not so surprised, because the intro made me think immediately of a Scherzo ! Thank you for your work.
Yes, I was thinking about that but than I decided to skip it as something quite obvious, and also marginal. I decided that the coda is much more interesting to compare as it shows more when the piece could have been composed. Thanks for pointing this out!!
Thanks for posting a great video, Greg! Talking about Scherzo was very interesting! I recently became interested in this work so I watched the video with interest I'm Korean so I'm not good at English, but I think it was a very interesting analysis video Thanks again Greg!
@@gregniemczuk Make subtitles is definitely a difficult task.. Fortunately I can hear some English Nevertheless I have to study English a lot.. Anyway thanks for making a great video Greg!
Oh pointing out how some mistakes were made in a one-take ~1Hr video that was meant to be a lecture and not a Performance? Hope not bc thatd be petty af
Great analysis for a great waltz. I completely agree with you! And I have ever wondered why Chopin didn't publish it. It's a very rich and original work, full of grace and energy at the same time. I think your discovery about scherzo n.1 similarity is correct and enlighting. Thank you so much for completing the analysis of Chopin posth. work.
My pleasure. Thanks for watching so carefully and for your comment!
Didn't he regret fantasie impromptu bc he wrote that one when he was young and ... "immature" (in his own opinion)? I guess perhaps he got plagiarism accusations re: beethoven moonlight sonata movement 3 (one of the last measures)?? (Interestingly in some music scenes, particularly jazz, plagiarism is a concept that makes no sense, other material is seen merely as other tools or constituent parts to be used freely with no concept of ownership, even if more "egregious" than that for which any lawsuit has ever been filed) lol I'm joking. It's hard to say if that would even conceptually be an issue the way it is seen in the modern era with intellectual property laws the way they are, which is not at all how things have always been seen. I'm just saying I don't know, not one way or the other. It's nothing beyond a single descending run. If it were going up or down a more basic scale nobody would even say anything. But these days lawsuits are filed over pop music which is inherently generic and unoriginal, repetitive with only like 2 or 3 looping sections, it's funny but scary for musicians
Not Chopin most popular Waltz but like ALL Chopin music, this piece gets under your skin and never leaves you! ⭐ 🌟 ✨ ⭐
It's so true
Wow, I have waited so long for this Waltz analyzed by you, thank you very much, it is one of my absolute favourite Waltzes by Chopin :)
Sorry to keep you waiting!!!
@@gregniemczuk No problem, it was worth the time waiting :D
3:35 analysis begins here
I love the story. Thank you for analyzing this for us it is very helpful. Love you❤
I learned this one as a little kid (~25 years ago) Nice to hear how its supposed to be played. I listened to some versions online of professionals playing it (prep for recital back then) but the couple i found then played even more immaturely than I did then lol from what I remember anyway (a number of them seemed to see it as a speed contest) havent taken lessons for >15 years, most of that time with nothing to play on [ignoring guitar]. Your videos are very helpful since ive been trying to get back into it on my own recently. Taught myself jeaux deau over the last 3 months (got notes down which is not the same as mastering it by any means), relearning revolutionary etude, trying to improve this one along with a few debussy works to professional level. Double 3rds and some listz transcendental etudes on the side. And polishing moonlight mvmt 3 only bc naive people think that one is so impressive (millions of yt views for adults when i learned that as a little kid... i.e., "pizza delivery guy sees piano and plays THIS unexpectedly")
You are absolutely a marvel. Thank you sincerely
Thank you so much!
A comprehensive interpretation of E minor valse. your historical point of view in analysing is valuable.
Thank you very much
You don't know how this video will help me. I'll perform it tomorrow at a piano competition. Thank you very much, few channels do good musical analysis, but there are none like this. Thanks
Good luck Richard!!!!!
Another great lecture master, thank you!!!
I love your work and enjoy the great series around Chopin's works. thanx a lot,
Thnak you!
very excited for this one!
You will not be disappointed!
Thanks for another great lecture. Your analysis always add so much enjoyment to my listening. You’re the Sherlock Holmes of Chopin’s music. BTW, I’m most patiently waiting for your analysis of the concerti
Hahahahaha, Sherlock Holmes of Chopin's music sounds great!!!
amazing ❤
Thanks!
my absolute favorite waltz performed by Chopin! It is really underrated compared other pieces like his nocturnes and prelude. I just wish this was a bit more popular than most of the other nocturnes.
Just gave me time for a couple of preludes and a bit of a nocturne... Now I am in the mood :))
Grzegorz, I am currently learning this beautiful piece. Thank you for the video. Also, what are your thoughts about the variations on la ci darem la mano op 2? I couldn't find a video by you on this piece, I would love to see one
Thank you so much dear Greg. Is it a little jazzy ? You put joy in my heart.
Yes! Might be!
16:58 made me burst out laughing 😂😂😂
😄😄😄😄😄😄
Genius!!
Dear Greg, thank you for an other very interresting and inspiring video. My solution for the Concertos, is 2 pianos together with the wonderfull, beautyfull and talented Anna Lipiak😉!
It could also be an option! I'll talk to her about that idea. The question is will she have time to prepare it?
What a good idea!
Really nice piece of classical music. Pleasant to the ears and smooth cadence. Would like to hear a piece of piano concerto in e minor op 11 being played without the orchestra. It would be amazing
A very rich video indeed, thank you! Is there any evidence that Chopin pre-prepared a 'portfolio' of pieces to take with him to Vienna? If he did, that helps with the 1830 date (and makes him very foresighted to have realised in advance the need to call the salons to attention with his intro). But if not, then surely the intro puts this into 1831(+) with the Scherzo, as you think AND: NB, his 2 '1829' Waltzes don't have the 'call to attention' intro. BTW, Wikipedia says 1868 for publication and perhaps the lack of an autograph didn't help??? Since you ask.... You could always analyse the Concerti in the 2-piano versions... (😆😆). For my part, though I'd love to hear you play the Concerti with an Orchestra, I'm keener to hear your analysis of the remaining Posthumous piano works. You do seem to have Concerto No 1 well under your fingers however!
He definitely took a lot of music with him from Poland! You're right
I agree with you. It's like the sounds of the entire cocktail party are in there. How 'bout diamonds? Glass slippers & champaign?
Love this. It's so beautiful and rarely heard .. your piano sounds gorgeous. What model are you playing ?
It's a Kawai GM-10. Thank you!
@@gregniemczuk beautifully played. And merry Xmas
11:37 i’ve never considered chords to be dirty. How original.
Hi, loved your playing and analysis. I was just wondering how you pedalled the section where the right hand goes b, c, f#, a, g, e, c so like the second theme. Thank you.
I think it's one pedal per bar
Ok thank you so much.
8:49 would he ever had improvised, composed on the spot?
Probably!
Waltz as a dance by its nature it’s intimate because it’s a couple dance , it expresses the passion and connection between a man and a woman .
This waltz is very romantic and intimate with a deep meaning . I feel as a man that in the part 31:32 he is expressing his anger and rage about something erotic , maybe he was rejected by a woman that he loved or he didn’t dare to express his feelings to her ? Who knows , I am sure 100% it has something to do with women. It’s not difficult to understand Chopin if you are a man ))
Also maybe because my parents were from the Soviet Union I know personally the beauty and charm of Slavic women so I do understand Frederic’s soul perfectly ))
You caught the spirit of it David!
May I ask what you think about the RH chord in MM 90 (Ekier edition)? It's written differently in the Paderewski edition. Which is preferred?
I prefer the Ekier.... But both are acceptable
In this piece Chopin uses the rule of the octave too
your videos are soo much fun if they were more seen more widely that would be awesome
Thank you!!!! They will 😊
My guess was before you said…Ballade no 4!…Oh well. Thanks again for your magnificent analysis and performance.
Oh no, Ballade 4 is way too late piece
Yes please only the piano part for the concerto :)
Great analyse as always ! I didn't know that one. It's funny because when you talked about the scherzo, I was not so surprised, because the intro made me think immediately of a Scherzo ! Thank you for your work.
Wonderful!! You're smart!
Exactly the same thought here. Waltz-Scherzando!!
I'm surprised you didn't compare that flashy right hand bit to Etude 25-12 instead, since it went up and down octaves with a note in between.
Yes, I was thinking about that but than I decided to skip it as something quite obvious, and also marginal. I decided that the coda is much more interesting to compare as it shows more when the piece could have been composed. Thanks for pointing this out!!
Thanks for posting a great video, Greg!
Talking about Scherzo was very interesting!
I recently became interested in this work so I watched the video with interest
I'm Korean so I'm not good at English, but I think it was a very interesting analysis video
Thanks again Greg!
Hi Noh! I can try to make subtitles...they will be automatic but better than nothing!!! Many of my other tutorials have Korean subtitles.
@@gregniemczuk Make subtitles is definitely a difficult task..
Fortunately I can hear some English
Nevertheless I have to study English a lot..
Anyway thanks for making a great video Greg!
Wrong note etude
🫤🤔😕😵💫?? Explain
This is indeed waltz in Em. Not Cm, Dm, Fm, etc.
Oh pointing out how some mistakes were made in a one-take ~1Hr video that was meant to be a lecture and not a Performance? Hope not bc thatd be petty af
@@elliott614he was making a request for a similar video on Chopin’s Op. 25 no 5 Etude aka the “wrong note Etude.”