ПРОБОВАТЬ vs ПЫТАТЬСЯ vs СТАРАТЬСЯ to say "TO TRY"

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  • @SpankyHam
    @SpankyHam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    ПЫТаться - от слова "поПЫТка" - attempt
    СТАРАТься - от слова "СТАРАние" - diligence
    ПРОБовать - от слова "ПРОБа" - sample/test

  • @kambru
    @kambru 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    En español:
    ПРОБОВАТЬ = probar
    ПЫТАТЬСЯ = tratar
    СТАРАТЬСЯ = intentar
    :)

    • @jakstat9880
      @jakstat9880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ay gracias companero, comparando el espanol al ruso me ha ayudado a entender mas. Gracias de nuevo :)

  • @fabianp1011
    @fabianp1011 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I learned just yesterday these three verbs, and today this video appears. Am I being spied? 😂😂

    • @nani2155
      @nani2155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Your FBI spie works for Fedor 😂

  • @zx6r531
    @zx6r531 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In Serb
    питати се - to ask your self
    старати се о - to take care of
    пробати или пробат' (dialect) - to try
    пробавати
    испробати - to try out
    испробавати
    etc.

  • @Катюша-щ5ю
    @Катюша-щ5ю 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    As an introvert, it is seriously difficult to find someone to talk to in russian in real life. But, that's what CS:GO is made for

    • @mrwetcloth4571
      @mrwetcloth4571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same lol . I use my Xbox to talk to Russians

    • @mrwetcloth4571
      @mrwetcloth4571 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Heater64k overwatch I’ve found a few but you can’t search people up plus I haveRussia friends i play with

    • @mrwetcloth4571
      @mrwetcloth4571 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Heater64k many Great ways to learn if you have a console. I changed by whole Xbox to Russian and it’s helped me a lot, play games with Russian audio too is great.

    • @lauraagata818
      @lauraagata818 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any other platform you know of?

    • @Danilo-O
      @Danilo-O 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      try chatting and reading books. it's also a good way to practice and improve your langague skill.

  • @breadpitt4920
    @breadpitt4920 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    - pita (dad) making a nominal dad effort
    - стараться meaning you try so hard you get old in the process
    - to "probe" or sample

  • @manuelgregoriotellesalcoce497
    @manuelgregoriotellesalcoce497 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Спасибо большое Фёдор

  • @cakrokr1797
    @cakrokr1797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Random question: How to say "to make" in russian in sense of:
    To make you feel special
    To make him laugh
    To make her cry
    To make it works
    Создать or Заставлять? (Or what, if the correct is none of these)

    • @viktorias6248
      @viktorias6248 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Создать это - create

    • @cakrokr1797
      @cakrokr1797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Kameraad Heey thank ya :P

    • @cakrokr1797
      @cakrokr1797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@viktorias6248 Oh yeah I had forgotten :/

    • @SpankyHam
      @SpankyHam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@cakrokr1797 make her cry - довести её до слёз
      в остальных примерах - заставить/заставлять verb pair

    • @cakrokr1797
      @cakrokr1797 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpankyHam Now tell me which is the perfective and the inperfective.

  • @jaycorwin1625
    @jaycorwin1625 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent explanations! I am sure I learned this many years ago but I have forgotten, so these videos revive memories. Thank you for your work.

  • @myrussian18
    @myrussian18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So basically
    ПРОБОВАТЬ gives you feedback information about some kind of action you do
    ПЫТАТЬСЯ is about changing a current state of not knowing/being able to into knowing/being able to
    СТАРАТЬСЯ is about actually putting energy/effort into an action to succeed

  • @bhami
    @bhami 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    пробовать is pretty surely cognate with English "probe", which can have a vaguely similar meaning, e.g. as in "space probe".

    • @disdonc6012
      @disdonc6012 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But it's also "to taste"

  • @proudtobedesi
    @proudtobedesi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Fedor for making these videos. They have helped me a lot in my Journey to learn Russian.

  • @muskadobbit
    @muskadobbit 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love these comparison videos. Such great explanations

  • @davidsthoughts60
    @davidsthoughts60 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much! This answered several questions for me.

  • @manuelschlotterflosse1459
    @manuelschlotterflosse1459 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like your new looking thumbnails!

  • @Baqsam
    @Baqsam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    But one time I asked a hotel receptionist in Peter something like, "Can you clean my room tomorrow?" She replied, "Попробуем."

    • @nani2155
      @nani2155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In this context it means, thay will try that, but not with much effoert

  • @rindorindo7643
    @rindorindo7643 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Спасибо!!!!!

  • @CokBorcumVar
    @CokBorcumVar 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you!

  • @davidovics92
    @davidovics92 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    that little red dot scared me so much, i thought my monitor has some problem ahaha)

  • @abdulwahabsenan7986
    @abdulwahabsenan7986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Молодец

  • @roelheijmans
    @roelheijmans 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So correct me if I’m wrong, but to get back to the original sentence “I’m trying to learn the russian language”, the correct way will be “я пытаюсь выучить русский язык”?

    • @SpankyHam
      @SpankyHam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In general yes.

  • @user-bp6dq9yw2f
    @user-bp6dq9yw2f 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you very much for this interesting lesson.
    Большое спасибо за этот фантастический урок.
    Талия

    I am trying to learn Russian language.
    Я пробую выучить русский язык.
    YA probuyu vyuchit' russkiy yazyk.
     I am putting my effort into learning Russian language. It makes perfect sense if we translate it word to word and “ Пробовать [Probovat'] does mean “To try”.
    But unfortunately it’s a wrong kind of “try” verb. Today we will learn three of them and each of them is used. But before we get there, I know you have been trying to speak Russian and to have a conversation, and it has been hard. Maybe you had to slow down, look some words up; maybe you had to switch back into English at some point of time. I know the feeling. I have been there.
    And that’s why we have put together a program called:
    “30- day speaking challenge”. For 30 days we will help you work on your vocabulary, listening and of course speaking. So by the end of the challenge you will have a basic conversation in Russian, and know how to go from there; how to improve every single day and what to do after the challenge is over. So you can speak Russian fluently one day. So join us today with the first link in the description. And we will challenge your speaking and help you get to having a good talk with your wife, or girlfriend, friends, family, and Russian speaking friends . Or simply go to Russia one day and speak Russian there.
    And now let’s talk about “Trying”
    How to say: “I want to try this or I want to try that. I am trying to learn. I am trying to do this.”
    We have 3 verbs for you today:
    1.
    Пытаться= to attempt
    Pytat'sya
    2.
    Стараться =To do your best
    Starat'sya
    3.
    Пробовать =to try something out
    Probovat'
    1.
    Пытаться=to attempt
    [ Pytat'sya]]
    Let’s start with “Пытаться”[ Pytat'sya]
    A sentence can be:
    -I am trying to find a good restaurant.
    Я пытаюсь найти хороший ресторан.
    YA pytayus' nayti khoroshiy restoran.
    [Я ]пытаюсь=means I am trying. But “попытаться” is only specific to “attempting” something; to try and do something; more with the synonym of “ I attempt to find a good restaurant”. {You went on your phone, dialled the number of the restaurant and you are trying to find a good one}.

    Another example can be:
    -I am trying to explain to you this topic/subject.
    Я пытаюсь объяснить тебе эту тему.
    YA pytayus' ob"yasnit' tebe etu temu.
    I am attempting to explain this topic to you. This is a simple attempt to do something. That’s what “попытаться” is used for.
    2.
    Стараться =to try your best
    Starat'sya
    Стараться is similar one in meaning but is going to be more with the emphasis of: “Doing your best”- that is, putting all your effort into doing something.
    For example:
    -I am trying my best not to hurt you.
    Я стараюсь тебя не обидеть.
    YA starayus' tebya ne obidet'.
    Maybe you had an argument with somebody and you are trying your hardest not to hurt them with words, because they upset you so much. But you are doing your best not to hurt them.
    Another example:
    -I am trying my best with all my might.
    Я стараюсь изо всех сил.
    YA starayus' izo vsekh sil.
    Maybe it has been hard for you to lose weight. And you can say:
    “Я стараюсь изо всех сил.”I am trying all my best with all my might to lose weight.
    So “Стараться” [Starat'sya] is different from just simply “attempting to do something”.
    3.
    Пробовать =to try something out, learning a new skill
    Probovat'

    Means to try something out. Trying new type of food for the first time,
    Trying playing the guitar for the first time; trying to learn a new skill.
    For example:
    -I don’t like to try new food.
    Я не люблю пробовать новые блюда .
    YA ne lyublyu probovat' novyye blyuda .

    I couldn’t have replaced the two previous verbs with “trying out something”. It had to be either “ I do all my best or attempt” but with “пробовать”[probavat'] is to try out.
    Another sentence is more of imperative form like a command.

    -Try this candy!
    Попробуй эту конфету!
    Poprobuy etu konfetu!

    Let’s talk about hobbies or professions for example:
    -I want to try myself in a new position.
    Я хочу попробовать себя в новой должности.
    YA khochu poprobovat' sebya v novoy dolzhnosti.

    I want to try something new and see if I like it or not.
    So again, you are changing something. You are trying something new. You are trying your self in a new position. It may be a new profession; a higher role in a different part of the company where you work. Maybe you are a salesman and you want to become an accountant.
    So that’s the 3 verbs for Trying:
    1.
    Пытаться= to attempt [Pytat'sya]
    2.
    Стараться =To do your best[Starat'sya]
    3.
    Пробовать =to try something out[ Probovat']

  • @devencapritta6827
    @devencapritta6827 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Я хочу знать русский, но это сложный язык. That's literally the most advanced sentence I know lol

    • @ethanclark4116
      @ethanclark4116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Что сложный?

    • @maxmiller1717
      @maxmiller1717 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ethanclark4116 может быть грамматическая система, я считал эту тему сложна

    • @ethanclark4116
      @ethanclark4116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Хорошо. Я не знал слова: сложный, но сейчас я знать.

    • @ethanclark4116
      @ethanclark4116 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Я получил трудный

    • @capitaopacoca8454
      @capitaopacoca8454 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You have to achieve vocabulary while trying to desperately figure out the grammar. It's hard to get used to the grammatical cases, but it's important to learn the easiest things first, learn more words, and then to fight against difficult rules, like grammatical cases applied to numbers.
      I recommend Anki to learn substantives, adjectives and verbal conjugations. I personally don't use it to learn sentences.
      An important thing is to perceive how the verbs are formed. There is the verb доказáть, but also there is указáть, заказáть, показáть... Many verbs are formed by a stem and a prefixe. The verbs that I said are perfective, but if you replace the -ать by -ывать, the stress goes to the front of ывать and the verbs turn into imperfective: укáзывать, докáзывать, закáзывать, покáзывать. The prefixes look like prepositions, like у, по, за, на, до, при... Some verbs like брóсить turn into бросáть to form the imperfective. The stress changes. When a perfective verb ends in -ить, the imperfective probably ends in -ать or -ять, and the stress goes to -ать. Удáрить - perfective. Ударя́т - imperfective. It is not something you should STUDY, but something you should NOTICE, and LEARN gradually. If you manage to get this supreme knowledge, you'll be able to understand why the verbs are the way they are and the language will get 3 times easier.
      I think it's a good plan:
      1. Alphabet
      2. Gender of substantives
      3. Gender of adjectives
      4. Learn words
      5. Verbs and presente tense
      6. Learn more words
      7. Genitive case (singular)
      8. Accusative case
      9. Prepositional case
      10. Dative case
      11. Genitive case (plural)
      12. Instrumental case
      13. Learn words to practice the cases
      14. Past tense
      15. Imperfect vs perfect aspects
      16. Cases applied to adjectives
      17. Words
      18. Words words words
      19. Future tense
      20. Learn words
      21. Numbers
      and so on...
      Sorry for my english ):

  • @Y2KTOKKIE
    @Y2KTOKKIE 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi! Could anyone tell me the difference between прекрасный and красивый? Most sources say they both mean beautiful.

    • @АндрейЛапин-г4э
      @АндрейЛапин-г4э 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The word "прекрасный" is a more expressive word. It is closer to the word "splendid". Besides it can be used in the meaning of "excellent" or "great" as in "прекрасный пример для подражания".

  • @robertfernandez3115
    @robertfernandez3115 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This was my issue with my grammar. atb, tb, CR, Cb

  • @flaviocunha7576
    @flaviocunha7576 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    на разе. друг друга. что адеш

  • @РеспубликаЧикиБрики
    @РеспубликаЧикиБрики 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this has nothing to do with the video, but what would you recommend is the best way to learn Russian?, I am currently using Duolingo and your videos to help, is that good or is there any better way to learn?

  • @gregoneill990
    @gregoneill990 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    пробовать isn't far from the English word 'to probe' and стараться is close to English ' to strive'.

  • @carlosvilleda284
    @carlosvilleda284 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    American say "you rock" is there something similar to it?

  • @kristosvt
    @kristosvt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m trying to learn “the” Russian language***

  • @ephemeraleiswer9763
    @ephemeraleiswer9763 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'VE TRIED TO LEARN RUSSIAN, BUT IT'S A DIFFICULT LANGUAGE.

  • @basias7532
    @basias7532 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    PLEASE, keep the Russian sentences for as long as possible. Thank

  • @liciagrainger7979
    @liciagrainger7979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So, back to the initial discussion. if you mean to say "I am trying to learn Russian" it will be "страюсь вючить русский язык"...?

    • @SpankyHam
      @SpankyHam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Я стараюсь выучить русский язык - this is correct if you want to emphasize that you are learning Russian by investing a lot of effort and energy in the learning process

    • @liciagrainger7979
      @liciagrainger7979 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@SpankyHam OMG it's going into details, the ambition is there but I guess my "trying" is on more casual basis (I don't take any lessons, I just expose myself to Russian materials randomly in hopes of absorbing as much as I can.. not sure exactly where my intensity of "trying" stands 😂

    • @SpankyHam
      @SpankyHam 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@liciagrainger7979 тогда "я потихоньку пробую учить русский язык"

    • @liciagrainger7979
      @liciagrainger7979 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      спасибо! 😊

  • @blyax
    @blyax 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    вместо второго можно сказать "трайхардить", как на английском. :)

    • @jolevangelista
      @jolevangelista 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      И 99% русских вас не поймут

    • @blyax
      @blyax 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jolevangelista я никак не могу привыкнуть, что в интернете теперь люди, которые помимо того, что не могут перевести два простых английских слова, так ещё и не способны загуглить. Мне по-прежнему кажется, что уместно использовать словечки из прошлого интернета. Те кто не поймут, в итоге окажутся на обочине истории, но мне кажется, что вы преувеличиваете по поводу процентов.

  • @shreddder999
    @shreddder999 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why not just say "try?"