My late friend, a cop & tac squad training officer outfitted me with this model for concealed carry. I'm so grateful he did! Thank you for upping my confidence with this demo!
I love my 351c. I carried it a lot this summer. I plan on carrying it in a jacket pocket as a bug this winter. I just picked up a 3" Taurus 942 in 22 magnum. It has been a nice revolver so far. It carries 8 rounds but is a lot heavier than the S&W.
Yeah in my opinion you just can't beat the smith quality or the weight but I did just see one of those Taurus ones at my shop and it looked pretty decent for half the price!
Very much so appreciate that! I think it's an excellent lil carry or backup piece for anyone! I like the way yours looks with the titanium cylinder, that's pretty cool!
I say this is the best carry self defense gun against assailants that don't have guns themselves. The 22 mag is enough to injure and also kill with good shot placement, but has a lot less collateral damage compared to 38 special, 9mm, 357 and even 380.
I have carried a smith revolver every day for 20 years. I started out with a 642 went to a 640 now a 351pd. I like the extra capacity, and the weight in gym shorts
Great review, wish I knew about the trigger pull. Shot 1st time today at the local range. Very solid with the magnum loads! Seem to shoot high @ 25 feet but adjusted 'eye-sight' relationship and brought hits down to 3'" groups. Happy camper!
The lock is easy to eliminate. Done it. Don't let that stop you from buying a S&W. If you take the actual key lock that the key fits there are after markets blanks. No big deal. The trigger is or can be heavy heavy heavy. LCR 327 magnum has a very very nice trigger for an older lady and S&W long will match the 22 mag and shoots nice. You can also up the power to 32 H&R magnum and 327 magnum. Cost less. Note the LCR 327 weights 17.1 oz's plus ammo.
Love this gun. 2 mods I strongly recommend. 1. Get the ClipDraw- let’s you carry without holster IWB like a folder knife clip. Super easy install. And that’s good when you’re just wearing jogging or sports shorts. 2. Get the pachmyr Guardian grip with pop out pinky if you have larger hands. That way it’s easily concealable. Full disclosure I just got the Ergo Delta for it to try that as well. My theory with 22mag defensively is I practice starting first shot at pelvis and working up the torso to the head with all 7 shots. Can also practice 2 pelvis, 2 stomach, 2 chest, 1 in face.
I've done alot of 22 Mag testing out of little guns and even with the limitations of the short barrel, it punches above its weight. This hammerless design is just about ideal for anything but perhaps a trail gun.
Question. In your opinion, a 45grain 22 magnum at 1150fps compared to a 60 grain 32acp at 850fps. Shouldn't muzzle energy be pretty close between the 2?
@@ebjornnelson Thanks, but the video and my question & reply is about a J Frame with a barrel less than 2 inches. About 1150fps is the best you'll get out of the Federal Punch 22 Mag from a 351C.
I probably speak for others when I say, I have the 22lr Ruger LCR, with plenty of ammo too. Getting this would be about 800 just for the gun, plus a few hundred for ammo. In that regard, is it worth the jump? In line with that, speaking of the hottest stuff in 22lr, such as Punch, Interceptors, Velocitors, etc, how much better performance will you get with the Mag?
Great video, I absolutely love Smith & Wesson revolvers. Just picked up M&P Shield for $395, and they had a Smith & Wesson 642 that was used in the store for $495 not sure why the price was so high for the revolver for some reason, in some ways I still think that the revolver is better than a semi-auto.
That is really high for one of those. My local shop sells them new for less than that but yeah at the end of the day those smith snubs are excellent carry guns!
I wish this gun came in a 3 inch version. I own one, and it's actually pretty accurate. I carry it a lot when I don't want to carry one of my semi automatics. Very comfortable to conceal. My sister has the 351pd with the rosewood grips and fiber optic front sight. They both shoot very well, but hers has an exposed hammer, so she can shoot single action or double action. Mine is snag proof, but you get some very precise shots when you cock the hammer on hers. I highly recommend either one. I shoot speer gold dot 22 mag ammo in mine, and my sister shoots a hornady 22 mag bullet with a polymer red tip. Both are very accurate.
@@dougcobb8114 Be more specific on what you mean by "why". I've already explained to you that a 3" barrel would give a better sight radius, and would more than likely add even more accuracy and velocity.
I agree with your idea of a 22 mag being a great ccw gun I have been a ccw for 40 years and weight on my old hips and back are a big deal I have a safe full of bigger guns that i cant carry anymore both the sw 43c and the 351pd are my carry guns now with 2 10 round speed strips when you are 74 all i can deal with is making sure my wife is safe and myself Im not protecting the world anymore let the tactical ninjas do that great vid
Best way to deal with the internal lock if there is no other option is to remove it. I did that on my 340PD when I was changing the spring. Removing it has absolutely no effect on the operation of the gun except you don't have to worry about the lock accidentally engaging and you don't have to worry about having the key. There's even a replacement plug available for the "Hillary Hole."
@@TerriblyTactical I fully understand your position. Why should S&W be rewarded for caving to that Clinton era nonsense twenty years after he left office? But if you want a particular type, weight, and caliber of revolver sometimes I'm willing to compromise. My compromise consisted of removing that stupid lock.
i believe with 22lr you lose only like 25% of velocity compared to 22mag when firing from such a short barrel. i got 43c instead of 351c because with40g minimags(most reliable, most powerfull ammo for short barrel), it should, within 70 meters, still penetrate deep enough. of course the bullet wont leave "the body", but that is a plus in my opinion. and you have +1 capacity :o what i dont like about the gun is the firing pin, i think it should hit harder and be wider (so it crushes larger area, maybe something like a double pin, or U pin would be nice so it would minimalize the chance of primer malfunction due to separation)
Lucky Gunner did some testing on those rounds and a .22 Mag with a short barrel snubby got in the high 1000s FPS. The .22 long rifle was the low 900s. So with a .22 Mag you get an extra 150 FPS give or take (from a short barrel)
@@LA_Commander i have read some discussion somewhere, a doctor was saying that he would be rather shot by 45acp than 22lr because 22lr is weak and bounces inside the body. maybe less power is sometimes better. mags are definitely more powerful. if it would be 100x more powerful, would it be good or bad? what can 22 mag do that 22lr cant?
man you have a solid rotation, based on your bodyguard video, i see your a smith fan lol, when you use this is a back up gun, do you still carry a spare mag for your semi auto carry or soley rely on this for back up
The only thing that's made me feel bad about this gun is the price tag lol I assume its probably got to do how detailed the construction has to be with how lightweight it is, or possibly the aluminium alloy its made out of could be pricey. Either way I needed a gun I could take with me everywhere, and this fits the bill perfectly.
I say this is the best carry self defense gun against assailants that don't have guns themselves. The 22 mag is enough to injure and also kill with good shot placement, but has a lot less collateral damage compared to 38 special, 9mm, 357 and even 380. I would carry sw 351c and the 28 ounce 3in colt king cobra 357 mag as backup if i encounter an assailant with a gun. carrying both of these in separate areas on the body is definitely comfortable, and you have the right self defense tool for the right situation.
I think it's an excellent option for a lot of scenarios but if this is what it takes for people to have it all day everyday than it sure beats the big bad gun left at home!
@@TerriblyTactical The purpose of a self defense handgun is to just get out of a bad situation in order to call for help. I don't think you should be planning for an extended shootout like all these semi-auto carriers fantasize about. Unless you are law enforcement that do need long shootout capabilities, revolvers are superior to semi-auto for EDC self defense.
I bought the 351C BECAUSE both CCI & Hornady made a bullet specifically designed for a short barrel. I'm also the reason the 351C finally got on the stupid California Gun Roster. Federal came out with a short barrel 22 Magnum in their 'Punch' line, which in tests is a little faster than the CCI. So a little more power too. A nickel case & hollow point. However, impossible to find. P.S. As much as I love my J Frames, the Ruger LCR has a better trigger. In my opinion, their trigger is as good as the Kimber K6 for hundreds less. And if the 351C is used as a CCW, it will probably be used at 3 feet or less. The guy saying "give me your money" won't be standing across the street. And in CA, just wearing a T Shirt, so penetrating a 2x4 & 3 layers of denim, really doesn't matter. Like I said...I LOVE my J Frames.
Have been thinking about one of these 351Cs instead of a .380 ACP since lighter, easier back on target, 7 rounds (except for p365 or new Ruger .380 most .380s are 6-8 rounds) smaller footprint, can be fired at point blank range, and if you pick up something like a Henry lever action, pump action, or a Marlin or other bolt action you have a great varmint gun with all the velocity. Last I checked no one is selling .380 rifles (and I believe the .22 mag was made for rifles originally). Good review and discussion mr. Terribly Tactical...bet you have done it before, but maybe another Sunday night discussion about the smallest calibers might be a good discussion (or maybe argument like the union vs. non-union....LOL). Thanks sir!
A Federal Punch 22 mag from that gun penetrates exactly the same as a Federal Punch 22lr from a 43c running the standard FBI gel test. 22 mag really outshines 22lr in a rifle barrel but it's a waste of money in a barrel this short. Just more blast and recoil for zero benefit at a much higher cost in range ammo. Magnum powders burn slower so it really takes barrel length to see the benefit of the magnum round plus the 43c gives you one more round. It's a win-win to stick to 22lr in a barrel this short.
@@jerrylisby3440 No it is not, and the FBI gel tests prove that. Yes, more flash and recoil but penetration from a 2" barrel is identical to 22lr so yes in a snub it's a waste of money and you even loose one round. Testing is much more proof than your feelings.
@@cdlund2840 completely wrong. I have had both. 22 mag has more velocity. But also there is ammo that is designed to burn quicker in a snub nose in case you did not know. Also 22 mag is more reliable because they are made better than long rifle.
Save up and stop spending money on random lil stuff. It adds up quick! Patience is a virtue and you can make it happen if ya really wanted! I personally think it's worth every single penny!
I shoot couple hundred rounds for different sessions 30 and 35 grains cci mini mags at range until something sting my hand. After inspecting I noticed powder flame cuts through frame on top and on cylinder chipping aluminium. I was really surprised. Never use anything less than 40 grains. You’ll ruin the revolver and hands!
Looks like a great revolver especially in .22 Caliber since 22LR can be found relatively cheap. The S&W 351C is a little pricey for a .22 Cal revolver, but it's about the same price as the Ruger LCR. I was hoping that the Taurus 942 22LR would be a decent pistol, but the RevolverGuy gave it a poor review, because of the slop in the forcing cone.
I absolutely love this revolver. It won’t pull your shorts down at the Wally World and the XS dot is awesome and the revolver is like shooting rubber bands off your finger . I love my Jframes but I think though the 22mag is louder than 22lr I don’t think it’s louder than a 38 and obviously 357, so maybe it wouldn’t be like a flash bang going off if you use it in your vehicle in say a carjacking scenario .
@@TerriblyTactical you're welcome! I just uploaded a new video of me shooting my Smith and Wesson model 4566tsw converted to 45 Super for the first time!
Same revolver in .22 LR gives you 8 significantly cheaper rounds. I know he covered that .. Just say'n. One more round without much practical difference out of the really short barrel. I don't disagree with anything else.
@@TerriblyTactical Yep , the model 43C by Smith & Wesson has been demonstrated to be effective as a CCW. Have 22LR semi autos that I like to shoot at the range ( Ruger SR22 & Taurus TX 22 ).
Great review. Can tell this guy really knows his stuff 👍🏼 Only 2 issue I have with the 351’s is 1. The price and 2. The atrociously heavy trigger pull, like you mentioned. It’s hard to enjoy a gun with a 15 lb trigger pull and 1.78” barrel lol.
@@SC93-85 Got the 43C 8 round 22LR fully loaded its 11.4 ounces. So the 351C would be around 12+ ounces. Also Wilson Combat sells a trigger kit that lets you choose between 3 trigger springs. I think the trigger is now around 8 to 9 pounds on my 43C.
@@SC93-85 1st range day coming soon. The snap caps I bought though all have consistent strikes marks. The other people that installed this kit all gave good reviews at Wilson Combat.
From S&W's web site. "Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson? A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41. .22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired. Q: Why can't I dry fire my .22 pistol or revolver? A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin."
great review, didnt realize you could "stage it" to do modified single action, that probably helps with on target range accuracy quite a bit. for combat use i doubt itll ever see much use but great to have/know about none the less. thanks for sharing
For reliability can't beat a revolver. I compared the 351C to 43C & bought the 43C because the ammo availability. Also the CCI Velocitor ammo for 22LR is above 1600 fps & watched those rounds get expansion in a gel / meat targets. Those hot CCIs also penetrated over 12 inches which is the FBI requirement. The cost factor is a negative that I can justify.
You know, I'm probably weird in that I like both these little mouse guns, and .45s for carry. For whatever reason, I've always liked the 351C, it's just a wonderful little buddy to have on hand. As for 22 magnum's performance, I mean, yeah, it's not the best, but it's about like .380, which I think is good enough, and it sure beats harsh language.
Your camera constantly focusing, is really detrimental to a good review. Your point on arthritis, is not really accurate, as it is trigger pull weight that will be an issue, as opposed to recoil or gun weight. Trust me, I know "firsthand".
Jason K, I respectfully disagree with your point about arthritis affecting trigger pull vs recoil. I have arthritis (inflammation) in my finger/hand joints, including finger I use for trigger. I had enough pain in my hand/forearm after shooting a 442 that I needed Tylenol and a heating pad afterward. Every single shot was very painful. That is why I am really interested in this video about the 351-C. I like the simplicity and dependability of a revolver.
@@ADayInTheLifeofLori If that is your issue, you should really get a soft shooter, like the S&W Shield Ez in .380. A semi auto will give you much less felt recoil, compared to a revolver.
Lol you dont know where my face was and I was perfectly safe. That is also an untrue statement to say never because there are plenty of instances when you have to look down the bore. Stfu dork.
I love S&W revolvers a lot, but for only 7 rounds it’s really pricey. Also your 22 wmr IS NOT going to “lock up” due to recoil on a “Hillary hole.” I’ve been carrying several different S&W .357’s with the keyhole, and not once have I had a lockup in 20 years. On your 22WMR it’s absolutely laughable to worry about…. Furthermore, why buy an expensive S&W 7 shot when Taurus makes a cheaper 8 shot of the same cartridge? Did you consider their 942?
My late friend, a cop & tac squad training officer outfitted me with this model for concealed carry. I'm so grateful he did! Thank you for upping my confidence with this demo!
As someone who needs to carry for safety and doesn’t have a husband who is into guns, I appreciate this educational video. Thorough. Detailed.
Thanks a ton!
ur husband is a weewee
Hope you have watcha need !
Good stuff. Love the little 351C.
One of my absolute favorites!
I know 3 people in the grave because of a single 22LR gunshot. I just purchased the 43C.
43 c is definitely a sweet lil piece, but I wouldn't go all in on 22lr. Lethal, but not ideal.
I love my 351c. I carried it a lot this summer. I plan on carrying it in a jacket pocket as a bug this winter. I just picked up a 3" Taurus 942 in 22 magnum. It has been a nice revolver so far. It carries 8 rounds but is a lot heavier than the S&W.
Yeah in my opinion you just can't beat the smith quality or the weight but I did just see one of those Taurus ones at my shop and it looked pretty decent for half the price!
@@TerriblyTactical I love the 22 magnum round. I also have a couple of NAA minis and am looking at a Henry lever gun in 22 mag.
@@frankhamp1396 definitely grab a Henry! Excellent option!
Well done video. I enjoy shooting my 351 PD 22 magnum. Practical light weight , concealed carry revolver for a senior citizen.
Very much so appreciate that! I think it's an excellent lil carry or backup piece for anyone! I like the way yours looks with the titanium cylinder, that's pretty cool!
Great review!
Can't wait to get mine. Thanks
You're gunna love it! Thanks for watching!
Ridiculous on paper, but one of the best EDC J-frames ever made. Always got that thang on me.
Completely and totally agree brother!
I say this is the best carry self defense gun against assailants that don't have guns themselves. The 22 mag is enough to injure and also kill with good shot placement, but has a lot less collateral damage compared to 38 special, 9mm, 357 and even 380.
I have carried a smith revolver every day for 20 years. I started out with a 642 went to a 640 now a 351pd. I like the extra capacity, and the weight in gym shorts
They're awesome lil carry guns for sure!
I’m a fan definitely getting one for back up gun
It's freaking awesome dude
Great review, wish I knew about the trigger pull. Shot 1st time today at the local range. Very solid with the magnum loads! Seem to shoot high @ 25 feet but adjusted 'eye-sight' relationship and brought hits down to 3'" groups. Happy camper!
Niceee! Definitely great lil guns for sure!
You know that .22mag just does not get as much love as it should as I have always liked that round....Nice pick up....Good stuff....
Thanks and yeah 22mag is legitimately freaking awesome!
It’s a great round.
@@timkc1638 to say the least
@@TerriblyTactical how’s the recoil ? Not much recoil like the 9mm or 38 spc right ?
@@Chepo1500 it's barely a step above 22lr
Thanks for the video. I bought a 351C yesterday online. I can't wait till my local FFL receives it. Downside: Hard to find right now and I paid $634
That's a fair enough price though honestly especially for the times. You're gunna love that lil thing! Thanks for watching!
The lock is easy to eliminate. Done it. Don't let that stop you from buying a S&W. If you take the actual key lock that the key fits there are after markets blanks. No big deal. The trigger is or can be heavy heavy heavy. LCR 327 magnum has a very very nice trigger for an older lady and S&W long will match the 22 mag and shoots nice. You can also up the power to 32 H&R magnum and 327 magnum. Cost less. Note the LCR 327 weights 17.1 oz's plus ammo.
I don't do plastic revolvers personally.
@@TerriblyTacticalthere’s actually more steal in the 327 LCR than in the 351. Not to mention a much better trigger and caliber.
Very well done review.
Much appreciated!
Have a 351pd is 50gr ammo OK to use in this revoler.
Should be...I don't see why it wouldn't be?
WoW never see one of these before. Great video ❤
Much appreciated!
Love this gun. 2 mods I strongly recommend.
1. Get the ClipDraw- let’s you carry without holster IWB like a folder knife clip. Super easy install. And
that’s good when you’re just wearing jogging or sports shorts.
2. Get the pachmyr Guardian grip with pop out pinky if you have larger hands. That way it’s easily concealable.
Full disclosure I just got the Ergo Delta for it to try that as well.
My theory with 22mag defensively is I practice starting first shot at pelvis and working up the torso to the head with all 7 shots. Can also practice 2 pelvis, 2 stomach, 2 chest, 1 in face.
Indubitably good sir. Thanks for watching!
You try the ergo grip out yet? How you feel about it
I've done alot of 22 Mag testing out of little guns and even with the limitations of the short barrel, it punches above its weight. This hammerless design is just about ideal for anything but perhaps a trail gun.
Depends on the trail. If a coyote is the biggest thing you'll encounter, I'd say it's an excellent trail gun.
@@TerriblyTactical Definately, but I was thinking about a single-action capability to take meat for the pot.
@@professorpewpuew that's just a training issue. You can get the same accuracy with some practice!
I've got scrimshaw pearl grips on mine
Lolol niceee
@@TerriblyTactical I have a hard time hitting anything more than 10 yards away. But it's easy to carry
I’m gonna get me one of these bad lil’ babies.
They're awesome lil gats!
Very comprehensive review. Nicely done!
Thanks!
Question.
In your opinion, a 45grain 22 magnum at 1150fps compared to a 60 grain 32acp at 850fps.
Shouldn't muzzle energy be pretty close between the 2?
Most likely...not sure though.
22 magnum muzzle energy is considerably higher actually.
40 grain going around 1400 fps is actually around 170 ft lbs of energy
Most rimfire Rounds are tested out of a 24 inch barrel. Subtract 20 fps for every inch of barrel lost and you get an approximate differential
@@ebjornnelson Thanks, but the video and my question & reply is about a J Frame
with a barrel less than 2 inches. About 1150fps is the best you'll get out
of the Federal Punch 22 Mag from a 351C.
Excellent job and great points. Thanks for the information 👍🤠
Thanks for watching!
I probably speak for others when I say, I have the 22lr Ruger LCR, with plenty of ammo too. Getting this would be about 800 just for the gun, plus a few hundred for ammo. In that regard, is it worth the jump?
In line with that, speaking of the hottest stuff in 22lr, such as Punch, Interceptors, Velocitors, etc, how much better performance will you get with the Mag?
People can own guns for other reasons than practicality.
@@TerriblyTactical what do you mean?
Where did you find it for $590? Two years later it's now $739!
I work I'm a gunshop and get a discount
And fees !
Yeah, lookin at one rn, after taxes and fees, $760
great job as always
43c with Federal Punch.
Also a sweet lil piece!
Great video, I absolutely love Smith & Wesson revolvers. Just picked up M&P Shield for $395, and they had a Smith & Wesson 642 that was used in the store for $495 not sure why the price was so high for the revolver for some reason, in some ways I still think that the revolver is better than a semi-auto.
That is really high for one of those. My local shop sells them new for less than that but yeah at the end of the day those smith snubs are excellent carry guns!
Wow, that is way overpriced! I got my 642 for just $299 on sale here in CA. But then again that was right before 2020 so....
I wish this gun came in a 3 inch version. I own one, and it's actually pretty accurate. I carry it a lot when I don't want to carry one of my semi automatics. Very comfortable to conceal. My sister has the 351pd with the rosewood grips and fiber optic front sight. They both shoot very well, but hers has an exposed hammer, so she can shoot single action or double action. Mine is snag proof, but you get some very precise shots when you cock the hammer on hers. I highly recommend either one. I shoot speer gold dot 22 mag ammo in mine, and my sister shoots a hornady 22 mag bullet with a polymer red tip. Both are very accurate.
Awesome! Can't go wrong with either for sure!
Why...excuse?..wannabe owner..
@@dougcobb8114 The gun is very nice. A 3 inch version would just give a little more sight radius on it, but it's definitely not a deal breaker.
Why..
@@dougcobb8114 Be more specific on what you mean by "why". I've already explained to you that a 3" barrel would give a better sight radius, and would more than likely add even more accuracy and velocity.
That Hillary hole has to be a very scary place.
Lolol sure is
Stop with the Bull> easy to take the lock out of action.
I agree with your idea of a 22 mag being a great ccw gun I have been a ccw for 40 years and weight on my old hips and back are a big deal I have a safe full of bigger guns that i cant carry anymore both the sw 43c and the 351pd are my carry guns now with 2 10 round speed strips when you are 74 all i can deal with is making sure my wife is safe and myself Im not protecting the world anymore let the tactical ninjas do that great vid
Thank you good sir! Thanks for watching!
Got the 43C too because they sell HOT 22LR ammo that matches the WMR22 rounds for speed & expansion. Love shooting 22LR.
Another thing to add is the fact that all 22 Magnum rounds are jacketed bullets! Not just formed soft lead.
Indeed they are sir!
@@TerriblyTactical thank you for creating your content. Well done!
@@Joeak74 thanks for watching!
Best way to deal with the internal lock if there is no other option is to remove it. I did that on my 340PD when I was changing the spring. Removing it has absolutely no effect on the operation of the gun except you don't have to worry about the lock accidentally engaging and you don't have to worry about having the key. There's even a replacement plug available for the "Hillary Hole."
I just won't buy the Hilary hole guns
@@TerriblyTactical I fully understand your position. Why should S&W be rewarded for caving to that Clinton era nonsense twenty years after he left office? But if you want a particular type, weight, and caliber of revolver sometimes I'm willing to compromise. My compromise consisted of removing that stupid lock.
Great video, thinking about getting one of these
Thabk you sir! You definitely should!
i believe with 22lr you lose only like 25% of velocity compared to 22mag when firing from such a short barrel. i got 43c instead of 351c because with40g minimags(most reliable, most powerfull ammo for short barrel), it should, within 70 meters, still penetrate deep enough. of course the bullet wont leave "the body", but that is a plus in my opinion. and you have +1 capacity :o
what i dont like about the gun is the firing pin, i think it should hit harder and be wider (so it crushes larger area, maybe something like a double pin, or U pin would be nice so it would minimalize the chance of primer malfunction due to separation)
That's an excellent idea and definitely would be a solid upgrade as far as the pin is concerned!
Lucky Gunner did some testing on those rounds and a .22 Mag with a short barrel snubby got in the high 1000s FPS. The .22 long rifle was the low 900s. So with a .22 Mag you get an extra 150 FPS give or take (from a short barrel)
@@LA_Commander could make all the difference with such a small light bullet
@@LA_Commander i have read some discussion somewhere, a doctor was saying that he would be rather shot by 45acp than 22lr because 22lr is weak and bounces inside the body. maybe less power is sometimes better. mags are definitely more powerful. if it would be 100x more powerful, would it be good or bad? what can 22 mag do that 22lr cant?
@@kokoryba Penetrate 3 inches more in the ballistic gel test. So the 22 mag at least fits into the FBI minimum standards whereas the 22LR does not.
Speer makes a 40 grn Gold dot in .22 Mag. Hornady makes a 45 grn Critical Defense. In .22 Mag. I would like to try both if I can get my hands on them!
You and me both brother!
It also is the lightest revolver in the world. Thanks.
Yeah it is!
Nope , I think the 43C fully loaded is a little lighter but not much.
man you have a solid rotation, based on your bodyguard video, i see your a smith fan lol, when you use this is a back up gun, do you still carry a spare mag for your semi auto carry or soley rely on this for back up
Always have a spare mag, if not a couple!
@@TerriblyTactical lol nice, thanks for tip, i will run the same set up
@@tyronelylesjr anytime! Thanks for watching!
The only thing that's made me feel bad about this gun is the price tag lol I assume its probably got to do how detailed the construction has to be with how lightweight it is, or possibly the aluminium alloy its made out of could be pricey. Either way I needed a gun I could take with me everywhere, and this fits the bill perfectly.
It's definitely a great option! Buy either confidence!
I say this is the best carry self defense gun against assailants that don't have guns themselves. The 22 mag is enough to injure and also kill with good shot placement, but has a lot less collateral damage compared to 38 special, 9mm, 357 and even 380.
I would carry sw 351c and the 28 ounce 3in colt king cobra 357 mag as backup if i encounter an assailant with a gun. carrying both of these in separate areas on the body is definitely comfortable, and you have the right self defense tool for the right situation.
I think it's an excellent option for a lot of scenarios but if this is what it takes for people to have it all day everyday than it sure beats the big bad gun left at home!
@@TerriblyTactical The purpose of a self defense handgun is to just get out of a bad situation in order to call for help. I don't think you should be planning for an extended shootout like all these semi-auto carriers fantasize about. Unless you are law enforcement that do need long shootout capabilities, revolvers are superior to semi-auto for EDC self defense.
@@johnstockton8138 it is never wise to speak in absolutes
Great stuff, great channel, I'm now subscribed.
Very much so appreciated
I bought the 351C BECAUSE both CCI & Hornady made a bullet specifically designed for a short barrel.
I'm also the reason the 351C finally got on the stupid California Gun Roster.
Federal came out with a short barrel 22 Magnum in their 'Punch' line, which in tests is a little faster than the CCI.
So a little more power too. A nickel case & hollow point. However, impossible to find.
P.S. As much as I love my J Frames, the Ruger LCR has a better trigger.
In my opinion, their trigger is as good as the Kimber K6 for hundreds less. And if the 351C is used as a CCW,
it will probably be used at 3 feet or less. The guy saying "give me your money" won't be standing across the street.
And in CA, just wearing a T Shirt, so penetrating a 2x4 & 3 layers of denim, really doesn't matter.
Like I said...I LOVE my J Frames.
As do I good sir!
Never underestimate a 22 Magnum especially with the model being a 7 shot. Love mine.
Yeah they're super slick lil guns
Have been thinking about one of these 351Cs instead of a .380 ACP since lighter, easier back on target, 7 rounds (except for p365 or new Ruger .380 most .380s are 6-8 rounds) smaller footprint, can be fired at point blank range, and if you pick up something like a Henry lever action, pump action, or a Marlin or other bolt action you have a great varmint gun with all the velocity. Last I checked no one is selling .380 rifles (and I believe the .22 mag was made for rifles originally). Good review and discussion mr. Terribly Tactical...bet you have done it before, but maybe another Sunday night discussion about the smallest calibers might be a good discussion (or maybe argument like the union vs. non-union....LOL). Thanks sir!
Definitely a solid option dude! I love my 351c.
Definitely will be brought up on the discussion hoard my brother!
A Federal Punch 22 mag from that gun penetrates exactly the same as a Federal Punch 22lr from a 43c running the standard FBI gel test. 22 mag really outshines 22lr in a rifle barrel but it's a waste of money in a barrel this short. Just more blast and recoil for zero benefit at a much higher cost in range ammo. Magnum powders burn slower so it really takes barrel length to see the benefit of the magnum round plus the 43c gives you one more round. It's a win-win to stick to 22lr in a barrel this short.
@cdlund2840 not sure that's a fact but either way..the noise and flash can help aid in a psychological stop.
Not true. Magnum way more powerful than 22lr even out of a snub nose.
@@jerrylisby3440 No it is not, and the FBI gel tests prove that. Yes, more flash and recoil but penetration from a 2" barrel is identical to 22lr so yes in a snub it's a waste of money and you even loose one round. Testing is much more proof than your feelings.
@@cdlund2840 completely wrong. I have had both. 22 mag has more velocity. But also there is ammo that is designed to burn quicker in a snub nose in case you did not know. Also 22 mag is more reliable because they are made better than long rifle.
Got mine for 499$ back in 2017 so I think I did not bad . Did have to send it out for warrenry work
That's definitely a decent price. What went wrong with the gun?
@@TerriblyTactical cylinder would stick and not rotate freely . So they replaced the cylinder and the crane
@@KG370 interesting
22 mag is a lot less available or inexpensive as quality 22lr though and the 43c has 8 round (mine w CCI mini mag, epic)
True wnough but not as cool
the 20 grainers do like 1050 fps from the short barrel.
higher 1200 fps from the 4 and 4 inch barrels
Solid!
Nice review.....just ordered...👍💥🇺🇸💥
You're going to love the gun!
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I like the grips you put on your 642, they look good. May I ask what brand they are?
They're the hogue monogrips
@@TerriblyTactical Love them, thanks!
@@LA_Commander no problem!
.22mag ☠✌❤
22 mag is sweet!
22mag is a round you do not want to be shot with, I carry a ruger lcrx 22mag because it’s light and it will stop a threat
Yeah they work great and are super easy to shoot well!
The Ruger LCR is a great revolver, but I was a little disappointed it only had 6 rounds and was heavier than the Smith which has 7 rounds.
@@LA_Commander plus I think the Smith is a better made gun and not sacrelig being made half out of plastic lol
@@TerriblyTactical I absolutely love S&W for their quality. That is my "go to" brand.
@@LA_Commander amen to that
Best ccw revolver. Wish I could afford it
Save up and stop spending money on random lil stuff. It adds up quick! Patience is a virtue and you can make it happen if ya really wanted! I personally think it's worth every single penny!
I Love it my brother
@joegibson2359 it's such a sweet lil piece!
I shoot couple hundred rounds for different sessions 30 and 35 grains cci mini mags at range until something sting my hand. After inspecting I noticed powder flame cuts through frame on top and on cylinder chipping aluminium. I was really surprised. Never use anything less than 40 grains. You’ll ruin the revolver and hands!
Good information! Haven't had any issues yet of the sort but will keep that in mind! Thanks for watching.
As someone who often wears track pants, a heavy gun pulls my pants down. Lol. This 11.5 Oz may be the one for me.
I'm thinking it definitely could be!
Really nice looking well made revolver! A lot of attention to detail. I love the recessed chambers!
Yeah it's exactly what I needed in a little pocket rocket with a few extras!
Looks like a great revolver especially in .22 Caliber since 22LR can be found relatively cheap. The S&W 351C is a little pricey for a .22 Cal revolver, but it's about the same price as the Ruger LCR. I was hoping that the Taurus 942 22LR would be a decent pistol, but the RevolverGuy gave it a poor review, because of the slop in the forcing cone.
It's a 22 magnum
Qaulity guru this is chambered for .22mag, not .22lr as in the pistols you mention.
@@HighMaintenancePS Good point!
@Cody Neas Thanks for the feedback. It's a;ways great to hear from actual owner.
Does anyone know of laser options for this specific model keep seeing crimson grips with laser for j frames but other that no others
That would be your only option that I'm aware of unfortunately
@@TerriblyTactical Thank you very much for the help and comment just wanted to make sure
@@nathanelizondo4526 no problem! Thanks again for watching!
I want one
Go grab one!
@@TerriblyTactical unfortunately we're not allowed to have snubbies in Canada. or .25 and .32 caliber guns, AR's, Polymer 80's, ..........
I still have about 20 Hillary hole keys mostly to Tauruses
Lolol are they interchangeable?
I sure like mine!
Likewise!
I like my 351c so much I bought another one just in case the Democrats hit us with new gun problems
They're such great lil guns!
I did the same with the 22 lr version, the 43c! Great little j frames!
I absolutely love this revolver.
It won’t pull your shorts down at the Wally World and the XS dot is awesome and the revolver is like shooting rubber bands off your finger . I love my Jframes but I think though the 22mag is louder than 22lr I don’t think it’s louder than a 38 and obviously 357, so maybe it wouldn’t be like a flash bang going off if you use it in your vehicle in say a carjacking scenario .
Either way its a super light handy defensive gun that is extremely easy to carry and is more than effective enough!
😂 sold mine. Trigger pull 2 heavy for a non hammered model. It was ok
Well it has to be to reliably ignite the rimfire primers but yeah
Please, for the life of your revolver get some snap caps. You put your hard earned money into it.
It was two times and I literally stated it was for demonstration purposes only dude cool your beans
@@TerriblyTactical Actually, you did it 4 times
Great video as usual! Great little 22 magnum!
Thanks man!
I just put up a new video after customizations I did to my Smith and Wesson model 66 no dash. Check it out
@@TerriblyTactical you're welcome! I just uploaded a new video of me shooting my Smith and Wesson model 4566tsw converted to 45 Super for the first time!
I believe that the 642 may be titanium frame not aluminum js could be wrong
It's not.
Same revolver in .22 LR gives you 8 significantly cheaper rounds. I know he covered that .. Just say'n. One more round without much practical difference out of the really short barrel. I don't disagree with anything else.
I can dig it and I plan on picking up the model 43 I believe it is that you're talking about but 22mag is just cool!
@@TerriblyTactical Yep , the model 43C by Smith & Wesson has been demonstrated to be effective as a CCW. Have 22LR semi autos that I like to shoot at the range ( Ruger SR22 & Taurus TX 22 ).
Man, the price really went up on this bad boy didn’t it? It used to be 689 now it’s almost $800 to buy it new.
Yeah, they're definitely not cheap...solid guns though.
Ive recently become a fan of 22 lr , i bought a MP 15-22 and Taurus tx22 .ammo still easy to find in my area and good price. Still love my 556 and 9mm
Well this snub is a 22mag so a little different and not as cheap but still rather common during the ammo shortage of 2020
This pistol is chambered in .22mag, not 22lr.
@@HighMaintenancePS The Smith & Wesson 43C is a 22LR revolver based on the same Air Lite design weighing a little less fully loaded 8 rounds.
Great review. Can tell this guy really knows his stuff 👍🏼
Only 2 issue I have with the 351’s is 1. The price and 2. The atrociously heavy trigger pull, like you mentioned. It’s hard to enjoy a gun with a 15 lb trigger pull and 1.78” barrel lol.
Very much appreciated my dude!
@@TerriblyTactical I forgot if you mentioned in the video, but what is it’s loaded weight ?
@@SC93-85 Got the 43C 8 round 22LR fully loaded its 11.4 ounces. So the 351C would be around 12+ ounces. Also Wilson Combat sells a trigger kit that lets you choose between 3 trigger springs. I think the trigger is now around 8 to 9 pounds on my 43C.
@@ag4allgood but do you still get consistent primer ignition with the lighter springs ?
@@SC93-85 1st range day coming soon. The snap caps I bought though all have consistent strikes marks. The other people that installed this kit all gave good reviews at Wilson Combat.
From S&W's web site.
"Q: Can I dry fire my Smith & Wesson?
A: Yes, except for the .22 caliber pistols which includes models 22A, 22S, 422, 2206, 2214, 2213 and 41.
.22 caliber revolvers such as models 17, 43, 63, 317 and 617 also should not be dry fired.
Q: Why can't I dry fire my .22 pistol or revolver?
A: Dry firing a S&W .22 pistol or revolver will cause damage to the firing pin."
@@HECTORRODRIGUEZ-py6gt indeed
Great review. Thank you!
No all thanks to you for watching and taking the time to leave a comment!
My wife has a 351PD, as well as a 351C.
They're great lil guns!
great review, didnt realize you could "stage it" to do modified single action, that probably helps with on target range accuracy quite a bit. for combat use i doubt itll ever see much use but great to have/know about none the less. thanks for sharing
Thanks for watching!
For reliability can't beat a revolver. I compared the 351C to 43C & bought the 43C because the ammo availability. Also the CCI Velocitor ammo for 22LR is above 1600 fps & watched those rounds get expansion in a gel / meat targets. Those hot CCIs also penetrated over 12 inches which is the FBI requirement. The cost factor is a negative that I can justify.
I also wanna grab a 43c at some point! Such cool lil pieces.
Good points made….and Great Video!!
Thank You! 💪🇺🇸
Much appreciated!
I want one.
How could ya not!
You know, I'm probably weird in that I like both these little mouse guns, and .45s for carry. For whatever reason, I've always liked the 351C, it's just a wonderful little buddy to have on hand.
As for 22 magnum's performance, I mean, yeah, it's not the best, but it's about like .380, which I think is good enough, and it sure beats harsh language.
Completely agreed
S&W should make a 9mm J frame
They do I believe...or at least did at some point to me recollection
@@TerriblyTactical well, couldn't find one in their website. There is one 986 model with 2.5 inch barrel i believe. Medium frame 7 shot..
A lot of 22mag semi auto options? Not really. Kel Tec PMR is the only one I can think of. Only three semi auto rifles as well I think.
There's definitely more than that. Try google.
@@TerriblyTactical Thanks, I'll look. Big fan of 22 mag.
Hmmm 22 mag im intrested
Yeah I'm loving it! Super cool little round!
People scoff and insist that 22 mag won’t stop an attacker, but no one ever volunteers to test that theory. Weird.
Hahha exactly!
My revolver broke after 26 shots, no return phone call after a month. I don't beleive or trust in s&w quality anymore.
Never had an issue with their guns or customer service...odd indeed
Its not a steel barrel its alloy
The barrel is steel dude. The shroud is alloy but the part The bullet touches is steel 100%
They were all in cardboard boxes in the old days. 1:55
I've definitely bought at least 2 with a blue plastic box
Uh, is there a reason why you didn't bother to show your audience that you opened the cylinder to check to see if there may be a round in there?
What dork?
Mine has a canted barrel shroud and a cylinder gap you could drive a small car through……..
That's messed up send it in!
Your camera constantly focusing, is really detrimental to a good review. Your point on arthritis, is not really accurate, as it is trigger pull weight that will be an issue, as opposed to recoil or gun weight. Trust me, I know "firsthand".
Jason K, I respectfully disagree with your point about arthritis affecting trigger pull vs recoil. I have arthritis (inflammation) in my finger/hand joints, including finger I use for trigger. I had enough pain in my hand/forearm after shooting a 442 that I needed Tylenol and a heating pad afterward. Every single shot was very painful. That is why I am really interested in this video about the 351-C. I like the simplicity and dependability of a revolver.
@@ADayInTheLifeofLori If that is your issue, you should really get a soft shooter, like the S&W Shield Ez in .380. A semi auto will give you much less felt recoil, compared to a revolver.
Thanks Jason.
You're so smart
I hate their cheap boxes. It just screams ‘cheap’.
@@sammyday3341 agreed
Ridiculously hard trigger pull.
It's heavier due to being rimfire and trying to ensure proper primer detonation but it's really not that bad
you should never point the gun at your face 2:58. (conditioning)
Lol you dont know where my face was and I was perfectly safe. That is also an untrue statement to say never because there are plenty of instances when you have to look down the bore. Stfu dork.
Pretty sweet lookin.
Heck yeahhhh it is!
It cost a lot because it’s made out of scandium.
This one is aluminum actually
I love S&W revolvers a lot, but for only 7 rounds it’s really pricey. Also your 22 wmr IS NOT going to “lock up” due to recoil on a “Hillary hole.” I’ve been carrying several different S&W .357’s with the keyhole, and not once have I had a lockup in 20 years. On your 22WMR it’s absolutely laughable to worry about….
Furthermore, why buy an expensive S&W 7 shot when Taurus makes a cheaper 8 shot of the same cartridge? Did you consider their 942?
The Smith is a far better gun and I don't have problems paying for quality. Plus made in America!
I just bought a 43c. Same gun in .22lr. I could have bought a Taurus. I bought a more quality piece I can hand down to my daughter.
@@mikesnaturalroast7748 Still have my father's 30-1 32 caliber revolver I inherited from 1955. Operating great BTW.
It's 2 wittle
Nahhhh
How many times is he going to say “two tone”?
As many as I want nerd it's my video