Earlier videos on both revolvers. There's also a Chapter 2 video on the LCR. Video on S&W 43C: th-cam.com/video/uKT9ztw5NxQ/w-d-xo.html Video on Ruger LCR: th-cam.com/video/j5J14juvOUk/w-d-xo.html
Capacity ? Last weekend a midnight chicago street party emptied out in 30 seconds when someone fired a round. A round. No one stood there and wondered the caliber or drew his gun ready for a gun fight.
Exactly. I tell people concerned of larger calibers (mainly newer shooters either due to recoil or cost) and asking about a 22lr… the 22lr lacks the stopping power but a well placed shot cans get the job done. That and when bullets start flying and it’s no longer a soft target… the attacker isn’t thinking about what caliber is coming their way.
Your videos really make me feel like I'm at the range with you guys. I don't own any firearms at the moment, but your channel still brings me great joy !
I remember when that nut shot Reagan with a 22 revolver. One secret service agent turned around and got hit once in the chest. That 22 dropped him to his knees. Ive tried to find that video since but have not been able to.
Wife loves shooting this LCR Ruger revolver. Her only issue is sometimes hot casings are hard to eject from the cylinder . Would appreciate any thoughts on this. Thanks
I got one for my sister. She has a nerve condition almost like arthritus, but it really hampers her ability to shoot. Forget a semi-auto. Even the 380 EZ that Smith came out with she cannot rack the slide. This was her only choice. I got her the Ruger LCR in 22 magnum. She got her CCP and it lives with her. So consider this if you are physically challenged in any way. Trust me, it's better to confront an intruder with any gun rather than a sharpened spatula.
@@precisionrodentcontrol_PRC That was the only issue. The LCR has a huge, hard trigger pull. When she first tried it I was worried she couldn't do it. After some different gripping techniques she was able to crack off a box of 50. But that was it. But in a real life scenario, her adrenaline will give her the extra strength to rapid fire probably faster than a real autoloader! lol
J. Leage I managed to cut a tendon in my trigger finger years ago& can't pull many DA triggers but I've had no trouble with the .22mag or .38spl LCR triggers at all. They've had no trigger work done. I'm surprised anyone would find them difficult at all. I consider them the best, at least certainly for me.
Hickok45, you made me laugh when you said "there's nothing prettier than a loaded revolver." I was thinking that very thing just as you said it. But then, I'm old school like you.
My wife's .22 LCR is with her at all times, she practices with it a lot...it's a much better self defense weapon than any high capacity semi auto with really cool designer bullets gathering dust in a drawer at home.
There's a lot going for it: 1. A revolver is more reliable for .22LR 2. Controllable for a v. small pistol 3. Zero chance of limp-wrist malfunction. 4. Controllable shooting one-handed (a possibility in a self-defense situation). 5. Super cheap ammo for practice. 6. Simplicity of a revolver.
8 shots vs 5 of 38 special j frames. And wont jam like an auto if pushed into something like attacker or clothing. It wont go out of battery and can still fire
@@jackgreenstalk777 I accept a crazed and determined attacker could probably keep coming at you with 10, .22LR bullets in him (if none was a head shot or into a vital organ) but I'm also thinking 3 hits with a .22LR is a more effective deterrent than 2 misses with a 9mm.
I've watched Hickok45 for a decade, and just to watch how smooth and easy he is. Plus, a great sense of humor. He's a born teacher. His style and knowledge make the presentations so enjoyable. Kind of guy everyone would want for a dad, or best friend.
Thanks for the comparison. I've been considering a 22LR revolver to use while riding my bicycle. You've helped me make my decision and go with the S&W 43C due to its lesser weight. Keep up the good work.
I just got me one, but it's the Ruger LCR in 22 Magnum. A little more power, still rimfire, but I love it. Like the man said, don't enter into any competitions with it. It's strictly a "get out of a bad situation quick" gun. Hard to be accurate past 10 yards...
When I was 18 I was shot in my upper arm by a .22lr. If I had been an aggressor rather than a victim I would have gone away very quickly. The bullet shattered my humerus in 2 places at a distance of about 8 yards. My surgeon explained to me about the damaged it could have caused at other contact points....collapsed lung etc. I am now 71 and my arm still aches like hell in the cold. Bring on the sharp sticks.
I had a NAA mini Revolver in .22 LR, and it was very impressive for it's tiny size and big dog bark, with the birds head grips, I fully intend to get another one. And yes, I shot it well at 20 feet, 1 inch groups.
LCR in 22 is perfect for me. latest gel tests passes FBI standards. such a sweet gun. pocket carry approved. Does take lots of practice--which is fun, easy, smooth, and no recoil.
Actually found out about the S&W 43C on another venue about a week ago and I was so impressed, I bought one. Federal Punch 22LR shot accuracy in the 43C was impressive and ballistic gel results were also impressive. My wife is recoil sensitive and the light weight was another plus. As Jeff Cooper once said "A pistol beats NO pistol" and it also beats just "harsh words" if that's all you have. CCI also has 22LR hollow point Varmit load which might make a good carry load. Been watching you Hickok for years.
Would love a 43C but the price is crazy and they are impossible to find. Ruger LCR it is. There is a thinner, lighter grip now available for the LCR, the Bantam Boot Grip.
I got my 43c from my local outfitter, it was a pretty penny. It shaved and spit lead badly and the trigger stuck to the rear a couple of times. I figured I'd just learn to live with it, thinking it would break-in eventually. I mentioned this to a friend of mine and he suggested I send it back to S&W and have it examined. So I sent it back, it was returned having had the forcing cone cut, a repaired extractor, they repaired the yoke and also repaired the hand. It took about 6 weeks to get it back. This little revolver is unbelievably light, but the overall exspence for me was high. If I were to do it again, I'd go with the Ruger.
Great video. Another consideration is how loud .22 LR is vs .38 spl. Obviously it's better to be alive and have bad hearing than dead with no hearing, but self defense scenarios often mean you won't have any ear pro. Tinnitus is no joke and for people who already have it and/or sensitive ears, 22 LR might be a good option to consider there, on top of the weight, low recoil, etc. A .22 LR is better than no gun!
I’ve been looking for a used 43c for years and still have yet to see one at four local gun shops. I had the LCR but traded it in because I found it too big for pocket carry and the trigger was bad for me. I continually short stroked it. Before you start saying that I simply need to learn how to work a revolver, I have a number of them and I have never had this problem before. Anyway, can’t find the 43c anywhere used, but I have seen the LCR numerous times. I think that’s an indication of quality differences between the two.
Yeah, that tells all. I have and love the 43c. You couldn't pay me to carry the LCR after range testing it side by side vs 43c. Worth saving a little bit and buying new. Some good deals on gun broker new!
Many years ago, a friend of mine was shot at close range with a .22LR in the abdomen. He lived to say that it knocked him down as if he had been hit by a truck. The impact knocked him down instantly and there was nothing he could do but lay there in pain, waiting for help. This guy was about 5'10" and 180 lbs and fit. So I am here to tell you that a little squeaky .22 can and will take down a fully grown man and immobilize him. Anyway, when Wayne was released from the hospital, he had a plastic bag attached to his side and we could all tell when he had to go to the bathroom... phew!
I carry an LCR in .38 caliber and have the .22 LCR for cheaper practice ammo. Galco makes a leather pocket holster that works great with it. Love you videos
8 shots, with the most common ammo ever, a revolver for reliability, pocket size. I dont even like guns and I think I can safely say this gun is a win. It's something I would want in my pocket in unrest. And like I said, I'm not even into guns.
@@overlordRX I have fun shooting a shotgun or a .22 but for the most part they make me uncomfortable and I prefer to have as little to do with them as I can. Not a big deal. I have basic knowledge, safety, and understand the thing as it exists.
@@HammersOverStrikers hey man, I know stuff about things I dont have much to do with! You only need like 20 or 30 solid facts to know the bulk of how to handle, be safe, and deal with the mechanics of guns. Safety switch, magazine latch thingey, where the ammo goes, how to cycle it, barrel/receiver/shoulder area, which end is slightly more dangerous...
@@lsb2623 You're the type of people we should have/own a gun. Get one of those. Besides I applaud ya for chiming in. Please assist on portraying your knowledge to others about guns who ignorantly think negative of them. It helps. Thanks.
I have the Ruger and I detest it. I only bought it because it would have been months lead time to buy the S&W 43C. I wish I had bought the LCR 38 instead then it would of at least had a reason for being overweight and poor for concealing. Who needs massive grips for a .22lr snub nose which defeats the purpose of the best concealable package.
I felt the same way when I tried the LCR. I bought the 43c after researching both. I figured pay a little more for the lighter smaller package since 22 lr recoil is tame even with "hot" rounds like federal punch. I thought maybe I made wrong choice so I was able rent an LCR at a local range, and side by side the 43c shined in nearly every category it was better. Lighter. Smaller, better sight, less sticky grip better to conceal, better fit and finish, it locks up like a bank vault, the ruger rattles if i shake it side to side. To be fair, the ruger shot all its rounds and ejected everything just fine and worked. Id maybe replace the hogue grip for a vz grip that is smaller more in line with j frame grip size. Or even boot grip from crimson trace, and then I'd say the lcr is very much a usable ccw. Both 8 shot, concealed hammer, snubs, with fixed sights, and fairly heavy double action only pull of the trigger. Both safe and reliable. I really prefer s&w trigger to ruger, but some feel the opposite on that, but if I HAD to carry something other then 43c, it would be the LCR 22 lr. Its like 8 or 9 out of 10 steps of the way of being an awesome ccw revolver.
I'm kinda new to this. Why does one carry a backup gun instead of an extra mag or two? Just because you might get disarmed or the main one stops working?
DG unearthed I believe it’s the same idea that cowboys in the Wild West had when carrying more than one gun. The idea that it’s preferable in a gunfight to just grab another gun rather than spend time reloading. Seeing as this is a smaller more concealable revolver definitely makes it good as an option 2 when you get disarmed, like you said. If you are looking for a self defense gun though most recommend a .38 caliber as the minimum amount of stopping power, a .22 will still hurt and is definitely better than nothing but it’s more of a cheap date to the gun range rather than a weapon to trust your life to. Apologies if it sounds like I’m lecturing, you said you were new to guns so I wanted to give all the info I could c:
@@gratdalton868 while you have some great points, the bigger problem with 22LR, is not the lack of stopping power (especially with 8 shots). It's actually more the reliability. I have the LCR in both 22LR and 38 Sp. And if I knew that that the 22LR version would be as reliable as the 38, I'd carry that for sure as my back-up. But it isn't.
@@dgunearthed7859if the main one jams or gets away from you, you're not out of the fight. Also it's less cognitive load under stress to grab the backup.
Great comparison. Tried out both at the range, liked them both. Ended up getting the 43C equivalent - in 22 Magnum(Model 351 C 22 WMR - 7 Rounds). I bit more kick than the 43C.....but perfect for self-defense...."better than a stick!". Indeed - or the 2-ounce pepper spray trinket I can legally carry in the Republic of Kali.
everyone talks tough but no one will volunteer to stand in front of a @@ caliber gun and get shot with it. yes there are stories of people getting many times and getting out of the hospital in a few days. but there are more stories of someone winding up in the morge. for me , the 43C would make a nice summertime pocket gun, or a nice back up to my other snubs ( like my 642). it is also not a bad gun to put in my sweatpants pocket while lounging around the house. neither would the 351C in 22 mag, but knowing me I would get them both. already have the 351PD. and remember , 22s have been used by special forces, the CIA the Massad, and the mob.
I've carried for many years. Mostly large frame autos when I was younger. But as I've aged, my normal carry most days anymore is 2 S&W 642- 38 revolvers. I figure grabbing a fresh revolver is much faster than reloading. And as a final back up, I usually carry a NAA 22 LR mini revolver. I was raised on a small farm in the 70"s. We butchered hogs and beef to put in the several freezers we had. I used 22LR and 22 shorts, fired from rifles mainly to put the animals down. But at times I used various 22 handguns to do the task. I can assure everyone reading this comment, the 22LR and 22shorts had no problem dropping them instantly. The little 22 round is much more deadly than many think.
Smith really goes into serious detail for why they make their little revolver like LE backup. Ruger makes a great everyman revolver. No reason the get the Smith unless you're really serious about what you need it for.
Personal protection is a pretty serious reason. Quality is cheaper in the long run. I'd rather not cheap out when it comes to defending myself and family.
I bought Ruger LCR 22lr last week from Sportsman Outdoors at $600. It took over 2 months of checking their website daily until they were back in stock and they were out of stock in a matter of hours. They're very hard to find in stock in new condition.
How come people have a problem with ANY caliber? I am a 45 guy. No one, in their right mind, would ever want to fire a pistol at another human being, but in a situation where someone is trying to kill you or a loved one, I can't imagine a person NOT stopping their attempt at hurting you or said loved one, with a 22 cal revolver going off in their face... at their face. I know that you are suppose to shoot at center of mass, but when carrying a 22 cal, which is all that that person can comfortably carry and shoot..... what the hell difference does it make? I haven't had any volunteers to let me shoot them ANYWHERE, with a 22!
Man. nice you ask why would you want one of these. well I have a colonoscopy where you have a bag on your gut, I need something lite weight to wear in my belt holster !
To be honest, I would consider someone who happily carries a .22 revolver for self defence in the same light I consider someone who pulls a sharp pencil out when held up with a knife . . . these people may be way more aware of what they are capable of than their attacker.
@@John.VanSwearingen presumably .37 Special? There's a lot of production for those. The 43c doesn't have nearly as many being produced, so they're more expensive.
That makes a big difference. About 100 grams extra all day every day. Also easier to conceal and draw with proper grips on 43c. The hogues are too big/sticky for carry, and overkill for 22lr
If you can put a hole through the vitals you're aiming for, caliber doesn't matter, and if you can't, caliber doesn't matter. Accuracy matters. Speed matters. Recoil matters. Noise levels matter. A firearm's report matters when there's no hearing protection - worse yet indoors and/or in confined spaces.
Shooting both side by side the smith & wesson is a much better gun in my opinion. Better trigger, much better fit and finish.. smith locks up nice and tight, ruger rattles around. Smith is also smaller and lighter easier to carry. Both fun guns. But smith is worth much more to me then the $100 price difference would indicate.
I have carried a .22 for years with hot ammo along with others 9mm, 40 cal, 45cal, etc. I like the .22 because it is light and small, easily concealable and has very controllable recoil. Many many people have effectively used a .22 cal over the years in self defense situations and have lived to tell about it. It makes a great defense pistol for females because of the low recoil. The 43C would be a great choice because of the size, white dot front sight and its eight round capacity.
I really appreciate your reviewing these and previously the .Ruger LCR 22 WMR and providing an unbiased assessment, recognizing these guns ARE the right choice for many people. I have crippled hands and wrists and my LCR .22 WMR has been perfect for me all around. And it is only for close range defense, so I agree a laughing attacker with a .22 LR or WMR hollow point in their chest at close range is not going to continue to laugh.
My 90 year old grandpa recently purchased the lcr because he has a hard time pulling slides back now. The LCR has a smoooth trigger for a revolver. He loves it!
Much better trigger too, in my experience shooting 100 rounds thru both side by side. Everything about the 43c is better in my opinion, except price, but its worth every pennt of the extra $100 spent you get a much better gun in 43c
Thanks for the review. Longtime Subscriber. My wife used to love watching your channel before she passed away. I am considering getting 1 of these pistols for my elderly mother, she's 66, but has problems with anything heavy, so I am considering either of these, because I believe that the recoil of the .22 will be fine for her, again thank you and your son!!!
For the recoil sensitive folks, I would recommend an LCR in .327 Federal Magnum and shoot only .32 ACP, 32 S&W, .32 S&W Long or .32 H&R Magnum. Ejecting the .32 ACP is a little tricky but doable because of the length of the star ejector. I definitely would NOT suggest recoil sensitive shooters even think about shooting the .327 Federal Magnum cartridges. The LCR .327 Federal Magnum would run about the same price as their .22 LR.
I have the S&W M351c, which is almost identical but is a 22mag 7 shot. Quite pricy, but found it at a great price years ago. It doesn't weigh much more than a potato chip.
Wow ! God bless you for this channel ! Lockdown in the U.K. and this is amazing to watch my friend, really helping me to keep my mind straight in these weird times ! New subscriber 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
thanks for video, could be false but there are reviews of the lcr transfer bar breaking and ruger's excellent customer service fixing it, i could never feel confident in owning the lcr only for that reason and maybe their cylinder release screw becoming loose on their higher caliber lcr, its actually pretty unacceptable, 9 out of 10 of the lcr 22 wont have that problem because they do have a good reputation but just making the small risk known to those who are considering the lcr, " nothing prettier than a loaded revolver"
My transfer bar broke 3 months ago . I didn't get my ruger back yet. I am done and never want one again. I'll sell it as soon as it will come back and get a 43c
@bloodymotivationtv5926 that's unfortunate man, yeah go with the 43c, 99.9 percent chance you won't have any issues and the more you shoot the 43c the trigger will lighten up a tad
Great video, my main conceal carry is the LCR in 38+p and I love it because of the grip. And I also like the trigger. Like all micro snubs range is definitely limited.
The best home defense - 38 snub nose and shot gun. I read 65 % of gun fights are within 3 feet. And a 22 can kill. I did scuba diving for 24 years my favorite gun is a spear gun. Lots of good dinners. Now I’m having so much fun with BB guns in the garage.
I'm picking the LCR over the Smith. I'm running the LCR in 357 mag. the oversized grip is what will give you the advantage when shooting. I prefer a soft holster. My choice is the "sticky". I just shove it down behind my belt buckle. The LCR and "sticky" holster is the best combination I've seen in a long time. I really like your videos.
I like the idea of the smaller grip and more concealability with the Smith & Wesson but if it came to wearing either one of these as a concealed belt gun I would go with the Ruger because like you I would say it's more shootable because of the bigger grip. The little bit of extra weight would not bother me at all. Did either one of these come in 22 magnum?
Man is it good to hear your voice everyday, with that positive attitude of yours. You Are a Great Man for all us quarantined people out here to listen to while waiting for the outcome of this cov19 outbreak crap. Very nice cap guns, they're fun to shoot.
Earlier videos on both revolvers. There's also a Chapter 2 video on the LCR.
Video on S&W 43C: th-cam.com/video/uKT9ztw5NxQ/w-d-xo.html
Video on Ruger LCR: th-cam.com/video/j5J14juvOUk/w-d-xo.html
Nothing like a compact revolver to keep me comfy in quarantine.
It would be great if you made a short video about you fanning a single action army with appropriate clothing!
What? No lock on the Smith?
Now I have to put another gun on my "To Buy" list !
What kydex holster were you using for the j frame?
Love the channel
Capacity ? Last weekend a midnight chicago street party emptied out in 30 seconds when someone fired a round. A round. No one stood there and wondered the caliber or drew his gun ready for a gun fight.
Exactly. I tell people concerned of larger calibers (mainly newer shooters either due to recoil or cost) and asking about a 22lr… the 22lr lacks the stopping power but a well placed shot cans get the job done. That and when bullets start flying and it’s no longer a soft target… the attacker isn’t thinking about what caliber is coming their way.
@@fproszek 🤡
Your videos really make me feel like I'm at the range with you guys. I don't own any firearms at the moment, but your channel still brings me great joy !
I remember when that nut shot Reagan with a 22 revolver. One secret service agent turned around and got hit once in the chest. That 22 dropped him to his knees. Ive tried to find that video since but have not been able to.
I have the Ruger in 38spl grip is great 👍🏻
Wife loves shooting this LCR Ruger revolver. Her only issue is sometimes hot casings are hard to eject from the cylinder . Would appreciate any thoughts on this. Thanks
I think a shrarp stick may actually be more effective. At least a sharp stick does not run out of ammo. : )
I got one for my sister. She has a nerve condition almost like arthritus, but it really hampers her ability to shoot. Forget a semi-auto. Even the 380 EZ that Smith came out with she cannot rack the slide. This was her only choice. I got her the Ruger LCR in 22 magnum. She got her CCP and it lives with her. So consider this if you are physically challenged in any way. Trust me, it's better to confront an intruder with any gun rather than a sharpened spatula.
You are a good brother 👍💪
00UncommonSense00 hey, you don’t know how sharp my spatula is
22 mag is not too shabby.
@@precisionrodentcontrol_PRC That was the only issue. The LCR has a huge, hard trigger pull. When she first tried it I was worried she couldn't do it. After some different gripping techniques she was able to crack off a box of 50. But that was it. But in a real life scenario, her adrenaline will give her the extra strength to rapid fire probably faster than a real autoloader! lol
J. Leage I managed to cut a tendon in my trigger finger years ago& can't pull many DA triggers but I've had no trouble with the .22mag or .38spl LCR triggers at all. They've had no trigger work done. I'm surprised anyone would find them difficult at all. I consider them the best, at least certainly for me.
Hickok45, you made me laugh when you said "there's nothing prettier than a loaded revolver." I was thinking that very thing just as you said it. But then, I'm old school like you.
Not sure prettier is the word I'd use
Lol. 😊
My wife's .22 LCR is with her at all times, she practices with it a lot...it's a much better self defense weapon than any high capacity semi auto with really cool designer bullets gathering dust in a drawer at home.
How come everyone isn't as amazed as I am over the fact that he hit the gong from, what, 80-100 yards away, with a 22lr snubbie?
this man could most likely hit that gong with a spring loaded BB gun lmao
Or a “sharp stick”.
Right?
Because he’s been impressing us with hit bong hits for over a decade. It’d be a surprise the day he can’t hit it.
Its actually not that hard. That gong is 2 feet in diameter.
In 2000 years archeologists will think there was a massive battle that took place here.
Only to discover it was a 1 sided battle
... or a religious ceremony, worshipping metal pigs and such! :-)
😂🤡
Lol. Yep
There's a lot going for it:
1. A revolver is more reliable for .22LR
2. Controllable for a v. small pistol
3. Zero chance of limp-wrist malfunction.
4. Controllable shooting one-handed (a possibility in a self-defense situation).
5. Super cheap ammo for practice.
6. Simplicity of a revolver.
8 shots vs 5 of 38 special j frames. And wont jam like an auto if pushed into something like attacker or clothing. It wont go out of battery and can still fire
@@jackgreenstalk777 I accept a crazed and determined attacker could probably keep coming at you with 10, .22LR bullets in him (if none was a head shot or into a vital organ) but I'm also thinking 3 hits with a .22LR is a more effective deterrent than 2 misses with a 9mm.
I've watched Hickok45 for a decade, and just to watch how smooth and easy he is. Plus, a great sense of humor. He's a born teacher. His style and knowledge make the presentations so enjoyable. Kind of guy everyone would want for a dad, or best friend.
Thanks for the comparison. I've been considering a 22LR revolver to use while riding my bicycle. You've helped me make my decision and go with the S&W 43C due to its lesser weight. Keep up the good work.
How are you liking it ?
Did you purchase the S&W 43c and how do you like it?
Snappy guns to start my day. I do plan on getting a .22. Hopefully soon. Morning everyone.
I just got me one, but it's the Ruger LCR in 22 Magnum. A little more power, still rimfire, but I love it. Like the man said, don't enter into any competitions with it. It's strictly a "get out of a bad situation quick" gun. Hard to be accurate past 10 yards...
If you’re not going to carry it, consider a GP100. Holds 10 rounds.
When I was 18 I was shot in my upper arm by a .22lr. If I had been an aggressor rather than a victim I would have gone away very quickly. The bullet shattered my humerus in 2 places at a distance of about 8 yards. My surgeon explained to me about the damaged it could have caused at other contact points....collapsed lung etc. I am now 71 and my arm still aches like hell in the cold. Bring on the sharp sticks.
james harris: a most compelling argument sir. Glad you survived
22 is not to be underestimated
Probably was from a rifle
@@Tacteyecool sounds like it
I had a NAA mini Revolver in .22 LR, and it was very impressive for it's tiny size and big dog bark, with the birds head grips, I fully intend to get another one.
And yes, I shot it well at 20 feet, 1 inch groups.
Rule #1 for being in a gunfight: Bring a gun.
not a knife?
@@omfggala3913 You can bring a knife, but only if you also bring stern looks and harsh language... ... and a gun.
LCR in 22 is perfect for me. latest gel tests passes FBI standards. such a sweet gun. pocket carry approved. Does take lots of practice--which is fun, easy, smooth, and no recoil.
Actually found out about the S&W 43C on another venue about a week ago and I was so impressed, I bought one. Federal Punch 22LR shot accuracy in the 43C was impressive and ballistic gel results were also impressive. My wife is recoil sensitive and the light weight was another plus. As Jeff Cooper once said "A pistol beats NO pistol" and it also beats just "harsh words" if that's all you have. CCI also has 22LR hollow point Varmit load which might make a good carry load. Been watching you Hickok for years.
Would love a 43C but the price is crazy and they are impossible to find. Ruger LCR it is. There is a thinner, lighter grip now available for the LCR, the Bantam Boot Grip.
“There’s nothing prettier than a revolver loaded”. That made my day.
I got my 43c from my local outfitter, it was a pretty penny. It shaved and spit lead badly and the trigger stuck to the rear a couple of times. I figured I'd just learn to live with it, thinking it would break-in eventually. I mentioned this to a friend of mine and he suggested I send it back to S&W and have it examined. So I sent it back, it was returned having had the forcing cone cut, a repaired extractor, they repaired the yoke and also repaired the hand. It took about 6 weeks to get it back. This little revolver is unbelievably light, but the overall exspence for me was high. If I were to do it again, I'd go with the Ruger.
Great video. Another consideration is how loud .22 LR is vs .38 spl. Obviously it's better to be alive and have bad hearing than dead with no hearing, but self defense scenarios often mean you won't have any ear pro. Tinnitus is no joke and for people who already have it and/or sensitive ears, 22 LR might be a good option to consider there, on top of the weight, low recoil, etc. A .22 LR is better than no gun!
I’ve been looking for a used 43c for years and still have yet to see one at four local gun shops. I had the LCR but traded it in because I found it too big for pocket carry and the trigger was bad for me. I continually short stroked it. Before you start saying that I simply need to learn how to work a revolver, I have a number of them and I have never had this problem before.
Anyway, can’t find the 43c anywhere used, but I have seen the LCR numerous times. I think that’s an indication of quality differences between the two.
Yeah, that tells all. I have and love the 43c. You couldn't pay me to carry the LCR after range testing it side by side vs 43c. Worth saving a little bit and buying new. Some good deals on gun broker new!
Many years ago, a friend of mine was shot at close range with a .22LR in the abdomen. He lived to say that it knocked him down as if he had been hit by a truck. The impact knocked him down instantly and there was nothing he could do but lay there in pain, waiting for help. This guy was about 5'10" and 180 lbs and fit. So I am here to tell you that a little squeaky .22 can and will take down a fully grown man and immobilize him. Anyway, when Wayne was released from the hospital, he had a plastic bag attached to his side and we could all tell when he had to go to the bathroom... phew!
¡Ewwwwwwww!
If hickock45 carries a .38 special than thats enough for me.
I carry an LCR in .38 caliber and have the .22 LCR for cheaper practice ammo. Galco makes a leather pocket holster that works great with it. Love you videos
Thank you for the 30 days of videos. With all of the ranges closed around me it is a nice break to watch a fresh video.
I love Johns sense of humor (“great gun for ‘da fence “).
I like these 22 revolvers but just cant get over the price points. Just keep rocking my 642 had it for years. Best 350 i ever spent years ago
8 shots, with the most common ammo ever, a revolver for reliability, pocket size. I dont even like guns and I think I can safely say this gun is a win. It's something I would want in my pocket in unrest. And like I said, I'm not even into guns.
You don’t even like guns??… dude….
@@overlordRX I have fun shooting a shotgun or a .22 but for the most part they make me uncomfortable and I prefer to have as little to do with them as I can. Not a big deal. I have basic knowledge, safety, and understand the thing as it exists.
For someone who doesnt even like guns, you know an awful lot about em...
@@HammersOverStrikers hey man, I know stuff about things I dont have much to do with! You only need like 20 or 30 solid facts to know the bulk of how to handle, be safe, and deal with the mechanics of guns. Safety switch, magazine latch thingey, where the ammo goes, how to cycle it, barrel/receiver/shoulder area, which end is slightly more dangerous...
@@lsb2623 You're the type of people we should have/own a gun. Get one of those. Besides I applaud ya for chiming in. Please assist on portraying your knowledge to others about guns who ignorantly think negative of them. It helps. Thanks.
I have the LCR in .38 special and it is amazing: light, with a very good trigger. The trigger is better than any of my S&W J frames.
Just got my daughter one of these and the trigger is surprisingly good for a 22
I have the Ruger and I detest it. I only bought it because it would have been months lead time to buy the S&W 43C. I wish I had bought the LCR 38 instead then it would of at least had a reason for being overweight and poor for concealing. Who needs massive grips for a .22lr snub nose which defeats the purpose of the best concealable package.
I felt the same way when I tried the LCR. I bought the 43c after researching both. I figured pay a little more for the lighter smaller package since 22 lr recoil is tame even with "hot" rounds like federal punch. I thought maybe I made wrong choice so I was able rent an LCR at a local range, and side by side the 43c shined in nearly every category it was better. Lighter. Smaller, better sight, less sticky grip better to conceal, better fit and finish, it locks up like a bank vault, the ruger rattles if i shake it side to side. To be fair, the ruger shot all its rounds and ejected everything just fine and worked. Id maybe replace the hogue grip for a vz grip that is smaller more in line with j frame grip size. Or even boot grip from crimson trace, and then I'd say the lcr is very much a usable ccw. Both 8 shot, concealed hammer, snubs, with fixed sights, and fairly heavy double action only pull of the trigger. Both safe and reliable. I really prefer s&w trigger to ruger, but some feel the opposite on that, but if I HAD to carry something other then 43c, it would be the LCR 22 lr. Its like 8 or 9 out of 10 steps of the way of being an awesome ccw revolver.
My sincerest congratulations to the 7 people who were the first to comment.
Like the 89 people " first " in line for The T P.
1500 rounds out of my Ruger LCR flawless. Carry it 24-7. Love it.
I love my LCR 22. Bought it second hand but she’s a beauty and cheap date to the range
How much used? Might buy for mom
Bubba Gump Shrimp 350. Highly recommend it
@@riccirichest4188 Where at? From an individual or? I've been looking but can't seem to find them cheaper than 475.
I like thinking i want to stop a bad guy not kill them
I believe LCR's now come with a white stripe on the front sight from the factory. Crimson Trace make a nifty laser grip option for the LCR as well.
You're right. I just bought a LCR in 327 Federal Magnum last month, it came with the white stripe on the front sight.
Mine in 9mm also has a white stripe.
Appreciate y’all from Texas ^^
I wish I had a gun collection :(
Never 2 late. Start with one. And go from there.
Heratige rough rider 22 mag for The money can't beat it
I would like to have the right to own a gun :(
"Better than her fingernails."
.22 caliber holes leak plenty of DNA evidence. Easy enough to collect after the fact.
Good luck still been upright after 2or 3.....
@@papimaximus95might be mostly from dead people. Rather be alive and tehbad guy dead or at least shot to hell
Hogue makes a real nice boot grip for LCR. Makes it very concealable.
Coronavirus: *Crosses Hickok's backyard*
Hickok: *so you have chosen the S-N-U-B-B-Y death*
If it's "Gong certified", it's a surefire.
Bit rich for my blood but i could see how owning one of these revolvers would be handy. Be a good back up gun.
I'm kinda new to this. Why does one carry a backup gun instead of an extra mag or two? Just because you might get disarmed or the main one stops working?
DG unearthed I believe it’s the same idea that cowboys in the Wild West had when carrying more than one gun.
The idea that it’s preferable in a gunfight to just grab another gun rather than spend time reloading.
Seeing as this is a smaller more concealable revolver definitely makes it good as an option 2 when you get disarmed, like you said.
If you are looking for a self defense gun though most recommend a .38 caliber as the minimum amount of stopping power, a .22 will still hurt and is definitely better than nothing but it’s more of a cheap date to the gun range rather than a weapon to trust your life to.
Apologies if it sounds like I’m lecturing, you said you were new to guns so I wanted to give all the info I could c:
@@gratdalton868 no worries at all I appreciate the insight.
@@gratdalton868 while you have some great points, the bigger problem with 22LR, is not the lack of stopping power (especially with 8 shots). It's actually more the reliability. I have the LCR in both 22LR and 38 Sp. And if I knew that that the 22LR version would be as reliable as the 38, I'd carry that for sure as my back-up. But it isn't.
@@dgunearthed7859if the main one jams or gets away from you, you're not out of the fight. Also it's less cognitive load under stress to grab the backup.
Great comparison. Tried out both at the range, liked them both. Ended up getting the 43C equivalent - in 22 Magnum(Model 351 C 22 WMR - 7 Rounds). I bit more kick than the 43C.....but perfect for self-defense...."better than a stick!". Indeed - or the 2-ounce pepper spray trinket I can legally carry in the Republic of Kali.
everyone talks tough but no one will volunteer to stand in front of a @@ caliber gun and get shot with it. yes there are stories of people getting many times and getting out of the hospital in a few days. but there are more stories of someone winding up in the morge. for me , the 43C would make a nice summertime pocket gun, or a nice back up to my other snubs ( like my 642). it is also not a bad gun to put in my sweatpants pocket while lounging around the house. neither would the 351C in 22 mag, but knowing me I would get them both. already have the 351PD. and remember , 22s have been used by special forces, the CIA the Massad, and the mob.
I've carried for many years. Mostly large frame autos when I was younger. But as I've aged, my normal carry most days anymore is 2 S&W 642- 38 revolvers. I figure grabbing a fresh revolver is much faster than reloading. And as a final back up, I usually carry a NAA 22 LR mini revolver. I was raised on a small farm in the 70"s. We butchered hogs and beef to put in the several freezers we had. I used 22LR and 22 shorts, fired from rifles mainly to put the animals down. But at times I used various 22 handguns to do the task. I can assure everyone reading this comment, the 22LR and 22shorts had no problem dropping them instantly. The little 22 round is much more deadly than many think.
Smith really goes into serious detail for why they make their little revolver like LE backup. Ruger makes a great everyman revolver. No reason the get the Smith unless you're really serious about what you need it for.
Personal protection is a pretty serious reason. Quality is cheaper in the long run. I'd rather not cheap out when it comes to defending myself and family.
I bought Ruger LCR 22lr last week from Sportsman Outdoors at $600. It took over 2 months of checking their website daily until they were back in stock and they were out of stock in a matter of hours. They're very hard to find in stock in new condition.
_The sculpted hand grip of the Ruger LCR looks very comfy!!_ 💚💙
How come people have a problem with ANY caliber? I am a 45 guy. No one, in their right mind, would ever want to fire a pistol at another human being, but in a situation where someone is trying to kill you or a loved one, I can't imagine a person NOT stopping their attempt at hurting you or said loved one, with a 22 cal revolver going off in their face... at their face. I know that you are suppose to shoot at center of mass, but when carrying a 22 cal, which is all that that person can comfortably carry and shoot..... what the hell difference does it make? I haven't had any volunteers to let me shoot them ANYWHERE, with a 22!
That 43C would make a great back-up for my 642 J Frame!
Been carrying it for 30 years. Now I alternate with my G19 depending on circumstances.
U sir are a wealth of information! Thanks for a great video
Man. nice you ask why would you want one of these. well I have a colonoscopy where you have a bag on your gut, I need something lite weight to wear in my belt holster !
To be honest, I would consider someone who happily carries a .22 revolver for self defence in the same light I consider someone who pulls a sharp pencil out when held up with a knife . . . these people may be way more aware of what they are capable of than their attacker.
Even 600 msrp is too high for a 22 revolver.
i can get a .38 for 300 def too expensive at 600
If you're buying a Heritage Arms SAA, sure. But what are you willing to pay for a snub-nosed revolver, in .22lr?
Stevarooni A new 642-2 is about $350-380 in my area, and very nice police trade-ins run $50 less.
@@John.VanSwearingen presumably .37 Special? There's a lot of production for those. The 43c doesn't have nearly as many being produced, so they're more expensive.
@@Stevarooni I shoot a .38 Special cause .37 Special just isnt powerful enough😅
Both the Ruger and the S&W are great 22LR revolvers, but I would go with the S&W because its 4 oz. lighter than the Ruger.
That makes a big difference. About 100 grams extra all day every day. Also easier to conceal and draw with proper grips on 43c. The hogues are too big/sticky for carry, and overkill for 22lr
If you can put a hole through the vitals you're aiming for, caliber doesn't matter, and if you can't, caliber doesn't matter.
Accuracy matters. Speed matters. Recoil matters. Noise levels matter.
A firearm's report matters when there's no hearing protection - worse yet indoors and/or in confined spaces.
Fantastic points, for sure.
I think I'd prefer the Smith & Wesson 🤠👍
Shooting both side by side the smith & wesson is a much better gun in my opinion. Better trigger, much better fit and finish.. smith locks up nice and tight, ruger rattles around. Smith is also smaller and lighter easier to carry. Both fun guns. But smith is worth much more to me then the $100 price difference would indicate.
So green in Tennesee already.
We still have 5 ft of snow.
I like the different range angles in these videos.
Thanks.
I have carried a .22 for years with hot ammo along with others 9mm, 40 cal, 45cal, etc. I like the .22 because it is light and small, easily concealable and has very controllable recoil. Many many people have effectively used a .22 cal over the years in self defense situations and have lived to tell about it. It makes a great defense pistol for females because of the low recoil. The 43C would be a great choice because of the size, white dot front sight and its eight round capacity.
Long time fan, been watching all month too, must take some effort to do a video everyday, thank you and John.
I really appreciate your reviewing these and previously the .Ruger LCR 22 WMR and providing an unbiased assessment, recognizing these guns ARE the right choice for many people. I have crippled hands and wrists and my LCR .22 WMR has been perfect for me all around. And it is only for close range defense, so I agree a laughing attacker with a .22 LR or WMR hollow point in their chest at close range is not going to continue to laugh.
I bought the Smith. Love it .
How many of us actually count each shot? Love your teaching and humor!
I always do...it is habit as my edc is a S&W 638 revolver
I just bought an LCRX 38 special for $270 new off gunbroker.
No u didn't
Sure did mate. It's got the copper cylinder too.
My 90 year old grandpa recently purchased the lcr because he has a hard time pulling slides back now. The LCR has a smoooth trigger for a revolver. He loves it!
Just bought my wife the Ruger 22 lr for Christmas. Hope she likes it!
Whatever I hit is what I was shooting at…. Hickok 😂
4 ounces lighter and smaller 43C gets my vote.
Much better trigger too, in my experience shooting 100 rounds thru both side by side. Everything about the 43c is better in my opinion, except price, but its worth every pennt of the extra $100 spent you get a much better gun in 43c
It would be interesting to compare the LCR 22lr with the LCPll 22LR.
Thanks for the review. Longtime Subscriber. My wife used to love watching your channel before she passed away. I am considering getting 1 of these pistols for my elderly mother, she's 66, but has problems with anything heavy, so I am considering either of these, because I believe that the recoil of the .22 will be fine for her, again thank you and your son!!!
I like 9s and 40s and 45s and maybe even 10s but 22 has my heart
I'd carry a 22 and wouldn't be worried
Lets be honest when in the hell would you need a cartridge with a longer range than a .22lr to defend yourself
Seh swa Die ding is goeie if I needed more range than a 22lr, I’m probably far enough away, to run away.
@@billystink4611 Running away is always the preferred option
@Brent Reid Well Brent you should have put the last few into his head, messy yes but very effective.
22lr would just bounce off my deflector shield
I carried an Iver Johnson 22 short revolver for years, never let me down. ..
Snubnose 22's are brilliant
Could you tell me what the hell the hide is on your table. African maybe.
Early American
Coronavirus: *Has Entered the chat*
Hickok: *So anyway I started blasting*
Coronavirus: *Left the chat*
Wow smashing little guns 👌
For the recoil sensitive folks, I would recommend an LCR in .327 Federal Magnum and shoot only .32 ACP, 32 S&W, .32 S&W Long or .32 H&R Magnum. Ejecting the .32 ACP is a little tricky but doable because of the length of the star ejector. I definitely would NOT suggest recoil sensitive shooters even think about shooting the .327 Federal Magnum cartridges. The LCR .327 Federal Magnum would run about the same price as their .22 LR.
I investigated a murder that was caught on video. The victim was shot by a 22lr. He was dead in just under 20 seconds. So it is better than no gun.
@@papimaximus95 Was the pencil 22 cal ? 🙂
@AlwaysAdventurous302 Yeah closer to 9 mm. Maybe that's why it was so lethal 😛
Like Rooster Cogburn said "it's no good to you unloaded"
That would be pretty nice in a .22magnum also!
I have the S&W M351c, which is almost identical but is a 22mag 7 shot. Quite pricy, but found it at a great price years ago. It doesn't weigh much more than a potato chip.
Hickock, Thank you for all you do to help the firearm community, keep up the good work.
The Ruger is a Better Buy!
S & W are Pricy!
For a 22LR the Ruger is a better deal!
4 oz difference. S&W is lower weight.
Wow ! God bless you for this channel ! Lockdown in the U.K. and this is amazing to watch my friend, really helping me to keep my mind straight in these weird times ! New subscriber 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
thanks for video, could be false but there are reviews of the lcr transfer bar breaking and ruger's excellent customer service fixing it, i could never feel confident in owning the lcr only for that reason and maybe their cylinder release screw becoming loose on their higher caliber lcr, its actually pretty unacceptable, 9 out of 10 of the lcr 22 wont have that problem because they do have a good reputation but just making the small risk known to those who are considering the lcr, " nothing prettier than a loaded revolver"
My transfer bar broke 3 months ago . I didn't get my ruger back yet. I am done and never want one again. I'll sell it as soon as it will come back and get a 43c
@bloodymotivationtv5926 that's unfortunate man, yeah go with the 43c, 99.9 percent chance you won't have any issues and the more you shoot the 43c the trigger will lighten up a tad
I like my LCR in .22. It may not be the most potent gun I own but it is the one I carry the most. Makes a great truck gun too.
Great video, my main conceal carry is the LCR in 38+p and I love it because of the grip. And I also like the trigger. Like all micro snubs range is definitely limited.
Robber:GIVE ME YOUR WALLET
Looks for your wallet then finds you mini revolver
You:*Pulls our a revolver*
BANG
Problem solved.
Isn't it a bad idea to dry fire most rimfire guns? Are these safe to dry fire without snap caps?
Have you tried the 351c or pd in 22mag? Nice little shooters too.
The best home defense - 38 snub nose and shot gun. I read 65 % of gun fights are within 3 feet. And a 22 can kill. I did scuba diving for 24 years my favorite gun is a spear gun. Lots of good dinners. Now I’m having so much fun with BB guns in the garage.
I'm picking the LCR over the Smith. I'm running the LCR in 357 mag. the oversized grip is what will give you the advantage when shooting. I prefer a soft holster. My choice is the "sticky". I just shove it down behind my belt buckle. The LCR and "sticky" holster is the best combination I've seen in a long time. I really like your videos.
Yes, but but......Kel-Tec P32. Half the weight and .32 caliber. Yes, the revolver is more reliable, but..... .32
I like the idea of the smaller grip and more concealability with the Smith & Wesson but if it came to wearing either one of these as a concealed belt gun I would go with the Ruger because like you I would say it's more shootable because of the bigger grip. The little bit of extra weight would not bother me at all. Did either one of these come in 22 magnum?
They do, both of them.
The ruger is still called the LCR .22wmr.
The S&W .22mag one is the 351c.
Man is it good to hear your voice everyday, with that positive attitude of yours. You Are a Great Man for all us quarantined people out here to listen to while waiting for the outcome of this cov19 outbreak crap. Very nice cap guns, they're fun to shoot.
I love my 442's in 38 special
Any suggestions on where to find the 43C 22 LR. I just learned about this and it looks like no one has it in stock. I would love to find one.
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