The Katana is a programmable amp. You can get great feel out of it if you know how to program it. It is basically a huge programmable distortion pedal that is loud.
Word I use id organic is the Valve, the Katana is a great amp but something about the Valve amp that cannot be replaced by Modelers I live in a small flat I've had modellers before the best one was VOX VTX 20 currently I just have the Katana Mini great little amp but I am looking at a Marshal DSL 1 cr Valve Amp for home use, I want that Valve sound I hate pissing about looking for tone with the modeling amps I just want plug the guitar in and go ,
I recently got a Katana head in a trade and I paired it with a Carvin 112 cab and it sounds great. I also have a Blues Junior and everything always sounds great through that. The Katana replaced a Roland Cube 30. I did side by side and the Katana sounds a bit nicer than the Roland. The Katana can go headphone, or down really low on 50w or just run the internal speaker.
I own a Friedman SmallBox 50 and did own a BE50 Deluxe, both incredibly loud amps, but can play at bedroom volume at night in my apartment without losing a ton of great tone. Granted they do sound better turned up. I have an ID core 10 stereo amp that doesn't sound bad on certain settings. I thought I'd need it, but turns out I really don't. I think the difference in sound of the Boss and Marshall, at least in this video, was really negligible. The Boss was close enough as for the listener's experience. But when it comes to the experience in the room, I agree with what you're saying 100%. Something feels more artificial about modeling amps. The Boss makes an amazing amp, but the feel and response in the room is going to be much different with a Valve amp. If you're recording and doing a bunch of post editing, you can get away with modeling amps, no problem. The more transparent signal of a good valve amp will certainly expose our weaknesses and make us better players. Plus they just sound, react and feel so much better in real life experience. What I mean is turn that Boss up and it sounds the same. Turn that Marshall up and get those tubes cooking and it will inspire playing so much more. It's just a better experience. Very nice job with the video. I subbed.
@@Paul-D One thing I seemed to notice about digital back in the day was ear fatigue. Guessed it might have to do with uneven harmonic overtones/ square waves etc. Thoughts?
It does seem harder to justify having expensive valve amps nowadays when things like the katana are so good, my THR 10C Yamaha gets a lot more use than my tiny terror but I only play at home, Playing live would be different cup of tea, I think the DSL40 is a bit of a hybrid anyway so best of both worlds they are all great though spoilt for choice. Great playing as always, I want a DSL now sounded brilliant.
Theres definitely no wrong choice now thats for sure. I enjoy plugging into whatever method. I just feel if your really splitting hairs there still something in the feel of a proper amp thats hard to replicate even at low volume. We could get even better tones if i was cranking it up haha.
The way to justify it is this. Are you a beginner to intermediate guitar player playing at home and needing to get crunchy distortion sounds without getting your neighbours to hate you? Go for the Katana. If you're a touring musician or a player that appreciates the tube sound much more than a beginner would than go for a tube amp. The katana sound great on low volume whilst a tube amp doesn't. Nevertheless, a katana would not stand a chance against a tube amp in a live setting. Doesn't matter how good you programmed your katana that amp will sound awful compared to a marshall or fender tube.
I have a Katana 100 head, first gen. Tone sounds great, the problem is, amp died on me during rehearsal. Wont even turn on anymore..Worst part is, no local amp techs are interested in touching it. Oh and good luck getting a hold of someone from Boss/Roland's Service Center. So its essentially just a big paper weight at the moment. To be clear, I'm the original owner, amp was mostly played in the bedroom till I started actually rehearsing in a band setting with it this year. Amp is 4 years old so obviously out of warranty! That said, I also own a Marshall Vintage Modern and a Peavey Classic 30 that are both almost 15 years old yet are still running strong! So there you go, buyer beware!!!
Yup almost nothing we buy these days is expected to last for life with good care. Funny enough a guitar and a nice valve amp are things that could last for life with servicing and good care lol.
My Katana II 100w around the house gives me most of what I want. Cranking up the Blues Junior is nice but it's not as versatile. I can blow out the windows with my Fender Hotrod delux so it's not on much. My Blackstar 5W is a nice amp, good cleans and a great dirty channel and behaves better than the Fenders. All in all my most used amp is the Katana, if I started playing live it probably still would be the most used.
Cool video! I own a JCM 2000 as well as a DSL 40C Was considering a katana prior to buying the 2000. Marshall all the way. I find the katana a bit harsh sounding while the Marshall is smooth and rounded out, all the right frequencies and responses that you want.
Had a Katana 100, sold it. Then Went from a Kemper Profiler to a DSL40cr. Not looking back. I can play the 40 at bedroom levels and on the 40w side it sounds and feels so much better than either
I Just think for a home amp its 90% of what your looking for and 100% usable at any time really. I don't use any of its built in effects but they are handy to have. There's a bunch of amps I would prefer to have, but hardly any I could use or frankly afford lol
I have play live for 50 years and used Marshall’s but lately it’s the Katana Mk 2 100 watt . It’s lighter more versatile and when you’re playing in a full loud band nobody hears those subtle tube sounds or cares 🎸
I have gigged a SS amp - Blues Cube Artist since 2016. Excellent amp, great for gigs and home plus lovely feel under the fingers. BUT if I play my victory vc35 out then valves wins out. There is just additional magic about valves. Look I am clearly not a tube snob having gigged SS so long. SS is nearly but it still misses a certain magic, particularly when the tone is hotter. I think for home players SS is a very good option and the Kat is an excellent amp easy to get good sounds out if at lower volume levels.
Solid State amps for the price cant be beat. Once you start getting in the $800 plus range there are some decent tube options , but you give up some flexibility to tap into that tube goodness. Quilter makes some great solid state amps that are an all-analog circuit, no digital modeling. I'm subscribing, thanks for the video!!!
Currently making this decision and it's tough, but I am pushing 60 only play at home now and the DSL 20( mine) and Blues Jr. Are still too much...got rid of 59 bassman reissue for these 2 amps. But I have messed with cheap used katana 100 head and cheap used 50 combo katana and just stereo these with any pedals or floor processor and it's great. The tube amps are worth several hundred bucks and not getting used much so I am thinking if selling....but...its hard...lol.....because of the feel differences
The katana stuff has earned its reputation for good reason, as have a lot of the modellers. Im someone who uses all methods very regularly and my conclusion is a good valve amp (not needing to be loud) is just my favourite - but I wouldn't stop using the other things too. What was the '59 Bassman like?? Ive never got to try one
@@Paul-D it's great but if not in big area an attenuater is a must....thing about katanas if it breaks I can get uded replacement for 150-200 in my large city...pedal prices....I have electronics dudes claiming the DSLs are no more reliable as it has all digital crap too..except the tubes
@@docamosroxie8686 yeh i bet you do haha. Cool thing to own though. i do think alot of the negative stuff around the DSL range is rubbish though. Its because its just not visually or in name what a marshall stands for lol. You can pick used DSL40C up very cheaply though used too. And its not like theyll break every 5 mins. Id expect years of use before it wasnt worth repairing. But totally get what you mean.
@@Paul-D Hey, not dissing DSL at all....I love it...if I keep a tube amp at my age this one checks all the boxes. My delima, while able to afford a 2000 buck amp if I chose, is the DSL is worth double my original year Blues Jr. Is why let 500 bucks just sit around?... If I keep a tube amp the Bj is way less money sitting around but the DSL has 2 channels and effects loop.....this is my dilemma again.....I have had many high end amps I am not young st your age fir me they were everywhere....I am done with this because I don't band anymore just home friend stuff. I can't get past not having at least one tube amp but I am using them so little that I should keep the cheaper of the 2 which is By but DSL is better over all.....but Its 100s of bucks not being used in my house very often......no disrespect but no more reliable than katana according to all amp techs....they have disposable electronics....sorry but reality....does not mean it sucks though!.....peace
@@docamosroxie8686 i didnt think you was dissing or anything 😁 i understand where your coming from. Maybe loan all the tube amps to friends or something and if you find you dont miss them at all thats the green light to sell them haha.
Yeh thats a very good point tbf. In all my videos i do my best to give the sound how i hear it, i dont refine any of the recordings etc no matter what the temptation is to improve it haha.
Yeh definitely, and I am a real stickler for maintenance and stuff - I like to know everything is in ship shape and if its ever sold the person has peace of mind. A valve amp will always be a concern like that - especially with the price of tubes now. And.... amp techs are a dying breed too. I wouldn't have a Scooby doo what to do if someone brought me an amp to fix lol. But.... Im also massively drawn too the buy something ONCE, look after it and get a lifetime of use from it. Thats part of why I love guitar so much, Its unlike most things today that we buy. I look round my house now and think how much of this stuff will I still have in 10 years time. And the answer is barely fuck all of it because thats the way society is now lol. Sorry for long reply lol
@@simondbarnes Ive been trying to learn more about Hifi systems recently after a FANTASTIC listening experience at a friends house on his 80s system. I think as a player and lover of music it would help my guitar playing massively to have a good system like that to listen back to all my favourite things on
I don't think it's NEARLY as much of an issue as most folks might think. I've been playing tubes for 23 years, hauling them everywhere w/o shockmount cases, down long bumpy dirt roads to austere rehearsal spaces, playing hundreds of shows, knocking them over, etc. and I've had pretty minimal upkeep costs. For the most part, most amps just keep going and will be solid and reliable for a very, very long time with no intervention ( if it isn't broke, don't fix it). They are not delicate flowers. So far, replacing a preamp tube in V1 position in a marshall head and fixing a broken knob on a mesa rack pre have been my only expenses as a tube amp owner. 23 years. And trust me, the modeling isn't "there yet".
I own the Katana head and the convenience, power and features are just too good to swap out for a heavy valve head to get that little bit better tone. Previously I owned some lower wattage valve heads but they didn’t have enough clean power. In this comparison the Katana sounded same same as the Marshall to me, admittedly just listening on my phone speaker 😅👍🙏🇦🇺
The only valver amp I've ever owned is a Valvestate 100 which isn't 100% tube, but as an apartment dweller it is just an enormous amount of amp that would never be used, so I got into the modeller side. Definitely more warmth from the Marshall. The Katana sounds a little brittle by comparison, but at the end of the day it depends on what and who you're playing for, if anyone at all. I really liked the tone of the Katana 50 I picked up a few years ago, but again...too much for the living conditions.
I fell in love with my thr10x but always like a good valve amp more for some situations. And then I bought a thr100 and everything else is meaningless for an amateur like me and not only. Maybe if I played in a super successful band, in front of thousands of people a valve monster would be my first choice. Otherwise I need nothing more 😁
I happen to have both of these amps. Several comments - Where I live, a DSL40 used costs more than a Katana 100 combo, substantially more than a used one. The "Marshall" tones I've dialed in on my Katana 100 head are very good, and generally more versatile than the DSL40 (usable at all volumes, etc.). The DSL40 comes alive at higher volumes, but if you can't turn it up, it's fizzier than the other. YMMV...
I was pretty quiet in this vid and a little cleaner then id normally be tbf. Thats mad over here a new katana 100 or head is 350ish and you can get a used DSL 40 for 250-300 all day any day.
@@Paul-D Where I live the Marshall cost Twice as much or more. The other thing is the Katana has built in effects which make it more versatile in my opinion.
Don't hear real differences with single coil, but with humbuckers the marshall is clearly better. But on a recording quite sure they would be quite impossible to distinguish between one other;
You definitely would struggle to hear the difference in a modern studio recording mix. Same would be said for any amp, modeller, Solid state etc etc. Its really more about what it feels like to you and how happy you are with the sound. Generally im always happier with a valve amp and some good pedals. But the katana is still great, software plugins are still great. And i use both on this channel and its very rare anyone ever even asks or spots a difference haha.
I have the Katana mk1 100 combo and after owning the Artist the 100 sounds boxy. Can’t get my head around it. My old Fender Champion 40 sounded better out the box.
The Katana II is a solid state amp, with digital modeling of effects, but the amp channels themselves are not modeled like in a true modeling amp. So it is deceiving to call it a modeling amp.
I couldnt really win on naming here because i called it a solid state amp in the other vid and got moaned at for not calling it digital modelling hahah. Point is though i guess, its 2 commonly found amps that can be easily brought for the similar ammount of money. Which one is "better"
I own a Katana Mkii head, it's a great amp but it hold no candle when I compare it to my Orange OR15, sorry. Both great amps but the OR15 is so much more in so many ways.
I think you have to own them both to really get to know the differences right, TH-cam only shows a compressed sound comparison and almost anything now sounds the part on video.
They really do its just become almost unfashionable to admit it hahaha. I am still happy to plug into the katana or the computer when it suits. But the valve amp is unmatched - even a "cheaper" one like the DSL40.
@@Paul-D Amen Brother....Totally understood...Technology is hard to beat...and soundz killer and consistent...Said with Much Respect... And Merry Christmas to you and your Family.....Godspeed to you from St Petersburg Florida .....
Are you listening with your eyes, my brother? It's so close, the price difference isn't justified. The real difference in the amps, and where the Marshall is clearly superior, is the way it feels to the player. But, simply based on sound alone, which is what we are getting in this video, there is little difference.
@@Paul-D well I’ve been around them for a long time and there’s just something to my ears it just doesn’t sounds right. I think they’re overhyped I mean the clean channels are fine but the high gain stuff just sounds terrible to me.
I know what you mean by the marshalls low end. I had a dsl 50 head and it used to shake the windows. The ultra channel just had a fizz that i couldn't dial out.
Yeah, not a modelling amp, but still digital. They sound decent but get out dated quickly and are seen as disposable. But for the price, a few years use before the next gen comes out, it's all good, especially as a jack of all trades, trying out different sounds etc..
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The Katana is a programmable amp. You can get great feel out of it if you know how to program it. It is basically a huge programmable distortion pedal that is loud.
Word I use id organic is the Valve, the Katana is a great amp but something about the Valve amp that cannot be replaced by Modelers I live in a small flat I've had modellers before the best one was VOX VTX 20 currently I just have the Katana Mini great little amp but I am looking at a Marshal DSL 1 cr Valve Amp for home use, I want that Valve sound I hate pissing about looking for tone with the modeling amps I just want plug the guitar in and go ,
I recently got a Katana head in a trade and I paired it with a Carvin 112 cab and it sounds great. I also have a Blues Junior and everything always sounds great through that. The Katana replaced a Roland Cube 30. I did side by side and the Katana sounds a bit nicer than the Roland. The Katana can go headphone, or down really low on 50w or just run the internal speaker.
I own a Friedman SmallBox 50 and did own a BE50 Deluxe, both incredibly loud amps, but can play at bedroom volume at night in my apartment without losing a ton of great tone. Granted they do sound better turned up. I have an ID core 10 stereo amp that doesn't sound bad on certain settings. I thought I'd need it, but turns out I really don't. I think the difference in sound of the Boss and Marshall, at least in this video, was really negligible. The Boss was close enough as for the listener's experience. But when it comes to the experience in the room, I agree with what you're saying 100%. Something feels more artificial about modeling amps. The Boss makes an amazing amp, but the feel and response in the room is going to be much different with a Valve amp. If you're recording and doing a bunch of post editing, you can get away with modeling amps, no problem. The more transparent signal of a good valve amp will certainly expose our weaknesses and make us better players. Plus they just sound, react and feel so much better in real life experience. What I mean is turn that Boss up and it sounds the same. Turn that Marshall up and get those tubes cooking and it will inspire playing so much more. It's just a better experience. Very nice job with the video. I subbed.
Awesome to read your comment and see that my point got across how i meant it.
Thanks for subbing
@@Paul-D One thing I seemed to notice about digital back in the day was ear fatigue. Guessed it might have to do with uneven harmonic overtones/ square waves etc. Thoughts?
It does seem harder to justify having expensive valve amps nowadays when things like the katana are so good,
my THR 10C Yamaha gets a lot more use than my tiny terror but I only play at home, Playing live would be different
cup of tea, I think the DSL40 is a bit of a hybrid anyway so best of both worlds they are all great though spoilt for choice. Great playing as always, I want a DSL now sounded brilliant.
Theres definitely no wrong choice now thats for sure. I enjoy plugging into whatever method. I just feel if your really splitting hairs there still something in the feel of a proper amp thats hard to replicate even at low volume. We could get even better tones if i was cranking it up haha.
The way to justify it is this.
Are you a beginner to intermediate guitar player playing at home and needing to get crunchy distortion sounds without getting your neighbours to hate you? Go for the Katana.
If you're a touring musician or a player that appreciates the tube sound much more than a beginner would than go for a tube amp.
The katana sound great on low volume whilst a tube amp doesn't. Nevertheless, a katana would not stand a chance against a tube amp in a live setting. Doesn't matter how good you programmed your katana that amp will sound awful compared to a marshall or fender tube.
I have a Katana 100 head, first gen. Tone sounds great, the problem is, amp died on me during rehearsal. Wont even turn on anymore..Worst part is, no local amp techs are interested in touching it. Oh and good luck getting a hold of someone from Boss/Roland's Service Center. So its essentially just a big paper weight at the moment. To be clear, I'm the original owner, amp was mostly played in the bedroom till I started actually rehearsing in a band setting with it this year.
Amp is 4 years old so obviously out of warranty! That said, I also own a Marshall Vintage Modern and a Peavey Classic 30 that are both almost 15 years old yet are still running strong! So there you go, buyer beware!!!
Yup almost nothing we buy these days is expected to last for life with good care. Funny enough a guitar and a nice valve amp are things that could last for life with servicing and good care lol.
@@Paul-D Exactly. Definitely learned my lesson there!
My Katana II 100w around the house gives me most of what I want. Cranking up the Blues Junior is nice but it's not as versatile. I can blow out the windows with my Fender Hotrod delux so it's not on much. My Blackstar 5W is a nice amp, good cleans and a great dirty channel and behaves better than the Fenders. All in all my most used amp is the Katana, if I started playing live it probably still would be the most used.
Cool video!
I own a JCM 2000 as well as a DSL 40C
Was considering a katana prior to buying the 2000.
Marshall all the way.
I find the katana a bit harsh sounding while the Marshall is smooth and rounded out, all the right frequencies and responses that you want.
Had a Katana 100, sold it. Then Went from a Kemper Profiler to a DSL40cr. Not looking back. I can play the 40 at bedroom levels and on the 40w side it sounds and feels so much better than either
They are great - as it happens ive been back to a katana now 😅
@@Paul-D Katana is great if you want dozens of effects, or want to download a patched amp!
I Just think for a home amp its 90% of what your looking for and 100% usable at any time really. I don't use any of its built in effects but they are handy to have. There's a bunch of amps I would prefer to have, but hardly any I could use or frankly afford lol
I have play live for 50 years and used Marshall’s but lately it’s the Katana Mk 2 100 watt . It’s lighter more versatile and when you’re playing in a full loud band nobody hears those subtle tube sounds or cares 🎸
i have the dsl but I wouldn't mind the katana as a backup in a pinch - cheers for the video!
I have gigged a SS amp - Blues Cube Artist since 2016. Excellent amp, great for gigs and home plus lovely feel under the fingers. BUT if I play my victory vc35 out then valves wins out. There is just additional magic about valves. Look I am clearly not a tube snob having gigged SS so long. SS is nearly but it still misses a certain magic, particularly when the tone is hotter. I think for home players SS is a very good option and the Kat is an excellent amp easy to get good sounds out if at lower volume levels.
Totally agree. Still love the katana. This video was at the start of my extra hype into valve amps and ive since settled down abit🤣.
Solid State amps for the price cant be beat. Once you start getting in the $800 plus range there are some decent tube options , but you give up some flexibility to tap into that tube goodness. Quilter makes some great solid state amps that are an all-analog circuit, no digital modeling. I'm subscribing, thanks for the video!!!
Thanks for watching. Never heard of Quilter on my travels ill check it out
Currently making this decision and it's tough, but I am pushing 60 only play at home now and the DSL 20( mine) and Blues Jr. Are still too much...got rid of 59 bassman reissue for these 2 amps. But I have messed with cheap used katana 100 head and cheap used 50 combo katana and just stereo these with any pedals or floor processor and it's great. The tube amps are worth several hundred bucks and not getting used much so I am thinking if selling....but...its hard...lol.....because of the feel differences
The katana stuff has earned its reputation for good reason, as have a lot of the modellers. Im someone who uses all methods very regularly and my conclusion is a good valve amp (not needing to be loud) is just my favourite - but I wouldn't stop using the other things too. What was the '59 Bassman like?? Ive never got to try one
@@Paul-D it's great but if not in big area an attenuater is a must....thing about katanas if it breaks I can get uded replacement for 150-200 in my large city...pedal prices....I have electronics dudes claiming the DSLs are no more reliable as it has all digital crap too..except the tubes
@@docamosroxie8686 yeh i bet you do haha. Cool thing to own though.
i do think alot of the negative stuff around the DSL range is rubbish though. Its because its just not visually or in name what a marshall stands for lol. You can pick used DSL40C up very cheaply though used too. And its not like theyll break every 5 mins. Id expect years of use before it wasnt worth repairing. But totally get what you mean.
@@Paul-D Hey, not dissing DSL at all....I love it...if I keep a tube amp at my age this one checks all the boxes. My delima, while able to afford a 2000 buck amp if I chose, is the DSL is worth double my original year Blues Jr. Is why let 500 bucks just sit around?... If I keep a tube amp the Bj is way less money sitting around but the DSL has 2 channels and effects loop.....this is my dilemma again.....I have had many high end amps I am not young st your age fir me they were everywhere....I am done with this because I don't band anymore just home friend stuff. I can't get past not having at least one tube amp but I am using them so little that I should keep the cheaper of the 2 which is By but DSL is better over all.....but Its 100s of bucks not being used in my house very often......no disrespect but no more reliable than katana according to all amp techs....they have disposable electronics....sorry but reality....does not mean it sucks though!.....peace
@@docamosroxie8686 i didnt think you was dissing or anything 😁 i understand where your coming from.
Maybe loan all the tube amps to friends or something and if you find you dont miss them at all thats the green light to sell them haha.
I have a valve and modeling amp in one. The Johnson Millennium 150 it's 20 years old now.
Ive never heard of that amp ill check it out. Cool that its 20 years old too
I think this shows more how the cab/speakers/microphone affect like 80% of the tone. Even more than the amp.
Yeh thats a very good point tbf. In all my videos i do my best to give the sound how i hear it, i dont refine any of the recordings etc no matter what the temptation is to improve it haha.
Great song choices as ever. I'd be worried about reliability / service costs with a valve amp but I'd still like to try one :)
Yeh definitely, and I am a real stickler for maintenance and stuff - I like to know everything is in ship shape and if its ever sold the person has peace of mind. A valve amp will always be a concern like that - especially with the price of tubes now. And.... amp techs are a dying breed too. I wouldn't have a Scooby doo what to do if someone brought me an amp to fix lol.
But.... Im also massively drawn too the buy something ONCE, look after it and get a lifetime of use from it. Thats part of why I love guitar so much, Its unlike most things today that we buy. I look round my house now and think how much of this stuff will I still have in 10 years time. And the answer is barely fuck all of it because thats the way society is now lol.
Sorry for long reply lol
@@Paul-D I will still have my guitars and my hifi in 10 years time, probably not much else!
@@simondbarnes Ive been trying to learn more about Hifi systems recently after a FANTASTIC listening experience at a friends house on his 80s system. I think as a player and lover of music it would help my guitar playing massively to have a good system like that to listen back to all my favourite things on
I don't think it's NEARLY as much of an issue as most folks might think. I've been playing tubes for 23 years, hauling them everywhere w/o shockmount cases, down long bumpy dirt roads to austere rehearsal spaces, playing hundreds of shows, knocking them over, etc. and I've had pretty minimal upkeep costs. For the most part, most amps just keep going and will be solid and reliable for a very, very long time with no intervention ( if it isn't broke, don't fix it). They are not delicate flowers. So far, replacing a preamp tube in V1 position in a marshall head and fixing a broken knob on a mesa rack pre have been my only expenses as a tube amp owner. 23 years. And trust me, the modeling isn't "there yet".
I own the Katana head and the convenience, power and features are just too good to swap out for a heavy valve head to get that little bit better tone. Previously I owned some lower wattage valve heads but they didn’t have enough clean power.
In this comparison the Katana sounded same same as the Marshall to me, admittedly just listening on my phone speaker 😅👍🙏🇦🇺
The difference is small and the katana can make up for it easily as you say, i still use the katana lots and i now have a marshall jubilee lol
The only valver amp I've ever owned is a Valvestate 100 which isn't 100% tube, but as an apartment dweller it is just an enormous amount of amp that would never be used, so I got into the modeller side. Definitely more warmth from the Marshall. The Katana sounds a little brittle by comparison, but at the end of the day it depends on what and who you're playing for, if anyone at all.
I really liked the tone of the Katana 50 I picked up a few years ago, but again...too much for the living conditions.
I fell in love with my thr10x but always like a good valve amp more for some situations. And then I bought a thr100 and everything else is meaningless for an amateur like me and not only. Maybe if I played in a super successful band, in front of thousands of people a valve monster would be my first choice. Otherwise I need nothing more 😁
Thats it, its all about finding what works for you and just playing guitar for the joy of it 😁
@@Paul-D That. I plug in and I lose myself in endless jamming, practicing and tweaking with great sounds. What else you need? ☺️
I happen to have both of these amps. Several comments -
Where I live, a DSL40 used costs more than a Katana 100 combo, substantially more than a used one.
The "Marshall" tones I've dialed in on my Katana 100 head are very good, and generally more versatile than the DSL40 (usable at all volumes, etc.). The DSL40 comes alive at higher volumes, but if you can't turn it up, it's fizzier than the other.
YMMV...
I was pretty quiet in this vid and a little cleaner then id normally be tbf.
Thats mad over here a new katana 100 or head is 350ish and you can get a used DSL 40 for 250-300 all day any day.
@@Paul-D Where I live the Marshall cost Twice as much or more. The other thing is the Katana has built in effects which make it more versatile in my opinion.
Thanks for the comparison. Marshall valve amps still lead the way.
Yup they do hahaha
If speack only the sound..Kanana is good with active speaker without our cabinet. Marshall ..sound is great with his cabinet.
Don't hear real differences with single coil, but with humbuckers the marshall is clearly better. But on a recording quite sure they would be quite impossible to distinguish between one other;
You definitely would struggle to hear the difference in a modern studio recording mix. Same would be said for any amp, modeller, Solid state etc etc. Its really more about what it feels like to you and how happy you are with the sound.
Generally im always happier with a valve amp and some good pedals. But the katana is still great, software plugins are still great. And i use both on this channel and its very rare anyone ever even asks or spots a difference haha.
I have the Katana mk1 100 combo and after owning the Artist the 100 sounds boxy. Can’t get my head around it. My old Fender Champion 40 sounded better out the box.
The artist does have a nicer speaker for the katana in my opinion tbf
The Katana II is a solid state amp, with digital modeling of effects, but the amp channels themselves are not modeled like in a true modeling amp. So it is deceiving to call it a modeling amp.
I couldnt really win on naming here because i called it a solid state amp in the other vid and got moaned at for not calling it digital modelling hahah.
Point is though i guess, its 2 commonly found amps that can be easily brought for the similar ammount of money. Which one is "better"
Not a lot between them Marshall has a bit fatter mid
I own a Katana Mkii head, it's a great amp but it hold no candle when I compare it to my Orange OR15, sorry. Both great amps but the OR15 is so much more in so many ways.
I think you have to own them both to really get to know the differences right, TH-cam only shows a compressed sound comparison and almost anything now sounds the part on video.
It's a no brainer....tubez rule...always have....always will.... the bar/standard that ALL of the microchip guys are chasing....
They really do its just become almost unfashionable to admit it hahaha.
I am still happy to plug into the katana or the computer when it suits. But the valve amp is unmatched - even a "cheaper" one like the DSL40.
@@Paul-D Amen Brother....Totally understood...Technology is hard to beat...and soundz killer and consistent...Said with Much Respect... And Merry Christmas to you and your Family.....Godspeed to you from St Petersburg Florida .....
Are you listening with your eyes, my brother? It's so close, the price difference isn't justified. The real difference in the amps, and where the Marshall is clearly superior, is the way it feels to the player. But, simply based on sound alone, which is what we are getting in this video, there is little difference.
I hate BOSS katanas so it’s an easy choice for me
Id be interested to hear why you hate them? genuine curiosity
@@Paul-D well I’ve been around them for a long time and there’s just something to my ears it just doesn’t sounds right. I think they’re overhyped I mean the clean channels are fine but the high gain stuff just sounds terrible to me.
Fair enough I must admit id never tried to use one for really high gain - turn to amp plugins when Im after that haha
@@Paul-D and it’s nothing against modeling amps I have an ID TVP 60 that I love. So idk just doesn’t do it for me.
I know what you mean by the marshalls low end. I had a dsl 50 head and it used to shake the windows. The ultra channel just had a fizz that i couldn't dial out.
Not a modeling amp
True. Easy mix up but its definitely not a modelling amp your right. Still though there is a comparison here lol
Yeah, not a modelling amp, but still digital. They sound decent but get out dated quickly and are seen as disposable. But for the price, a few years use before the next gen comes out, it's all good, especially as a jack of all trades, trying out different sounds etc..