@arrick sherkon Exactly who cares.. They no the policeman was wrong.. Why shoot period. They should never follow the truck on a highway period... All them neglected... Such a shame/ disgrace. Mercy Lord 😢 😢 😢
@@KB-iu2jh no, this is what happens when cops are stupid. I fought in Afghanistan and would be in jail if I shot up an intersection like these cops did... Don't be stupid.
They should have never approached the truck in the first place... All they had to do was let the helicopter follow the truck... And take them in a less populated area... These guys had to believe the police wouldn't shoot if they took a hostage... It's very possible a sniper could have saved this man... As far as I am concerned his father is right...
L Radiant yes!! Helicopter should’ve been close, cop cars should’ve kept there distance and followed til the ups truck ran out of gas, then negotiations could’ve taken place.
This dad is the most eloquent, articulate, intelligent man I've ever seen interviewed after such a horrific killing. I'm so glad he will be there for his wife,son, grand daughters, and their mommy. What a terrible, unnecessary loss of such a good young man. RIP Frank, my heart goes out to all who mourn your loss!!!
Not even his own son but he considers him as if he was really his own. The extended love for him is very infectious, speaking from experience... Hats off to you sir.
@@reza_dc2 not so shocking.. my step dad sexually abused me growing up. Step fathers end up on the news behind a child's death every now and then. I'm not saying a step father shouldn't be expected to love his step children, it's just that, in this day and age, a lot of "expected norms" are not norms anymore.
I'm also speaking from experience. My stepfather showed me a million times more love and showed me life skills that i use today with my own children. He's the one who showed me how to be a true father figure and what being a parent really should be. He's my real dad. That's the message I was getting out.... Thanks Dave.
@@ucfkid67 That's how it is. Just look at Jeff Bezos (riches man un the world). His blood father left him when he was 2 and his Step-Father for him when he was 3 (or so) and raised him to be the man he is. He calls his StepFather, Dad!
In another interview, a police officer said “if the criminals just give up and are held accountable for their crimes, we wouldn’t put this many people in danger” I smell incompetence and ignorance.
that sentence makes no sense, it is a shuck and jive avoidance of responsibility i.e: everyone else is responsible, not them. which a lot of cops do. they talk.
As I dad I would be angry at the two lowlifes that woke up that morning and instead of going to work like the rest of decided to go rob a jewelry store, their actions and their actions alone caused this tragedy.
True but I would still act on this. If you do not speak up then those cops will just do the same with another hostage situation. It was ridiculous how many cops were just shooting. There was even bullets on the body of the ups truck, like what in the heck were the cops shooting at? They were like a fire hose with those guns.
Have you ever had to fire a weapon while being fired upon? It takes a massive act of self discipline to hold your fire and fire back at ONLY what you directly intend to fire upon.
@Kwum aix the Taliban have done a poor job of keeping their Community safe and it's too bad they were too cowardly to face the US Army Head to Head. So basically your heroes are cowards
@Kwum aix yup you're right cops should of never intervened and just let the crimals kill him, then hopefully run to your house next. Stop blaming cops for trying to do their jobs. Try blaming the criminals unless you are one.
I know it will never happen but all 19 of those cops should do time. That would send a message that protecting the innocent comes before killing the guilty.
They should just let criminals that take people hostage go. Like if it were my sister being held hostage, I'd rather they rape and torture her. In fact unless someones hurt, people should be allowed to walk into anyone's home and take what they want without fear of gunplay
Slacker my name is Gregg Bruce and I say the innocent people put in jeopardy by the trigger happy, outlaw, and reckless police should have been run over or shot by the bystanders to protect themselves.
Except they didn't, did they? The thieves were killed too.
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Kill a thief... Like a weapon should not be automatic fire at will. They could have backed off and surrounded him in less populated areas. Using cars as cover with people INSIDE THEM IS STUPID. life is not a movie there was no timer in getting this thief, no fate of the country what happened is a damn shame
@Scriptures Only The police work for the insurance companies. Think about it. If you get in an accident or get robbed, your insurance company wants a police report. You get fined for speeding or seat belts not because of safety, but because of actuarial tables.
@@gregfalco4528 does that explain why when one of their own falls they work feverishly and often band many together in a massive manhunt until the suspect is captured / killed, instead of calling it a day and clocking out when it's a regular joe? I think I answered my own question here.
Remember in L.A. one of the cops went rogue and started killing off other cops a little over a decade ago? The L.A. police force's response was to stop everyone and shoot everyone. Or even more recently when the police shot the off duty veteran. They filled him with 60-70 rounds when he didn't fire one then the news says it's okay because it was just adrenaline or that the police aren't used to be hunted. That everything is fine when the cops do it regardless of how many people they kill at point blank range without reason but if the citizens look at the police, God help them.
We need to march for franky hit the streets he needs justice..Let hes Name be heard he died in vain they spill our blood and live above the law they only care for blue..they have a duty to protect and serve who can we rely on..scream his name let it be heard so they are shamed for they're actions
The forgotten Ghost sadly they won’t remember him 😢. As they grow older all they’ll have to remember him are from pictures and before anyone speaks bad on me. My dad got hurt when I was 7 so just a little older then his oldest girl and I don’t remember our memories. All I have is stories people tell me and the pictures I have.
That's right... Because the police carjacked the UPS truck and shoot at responding officers. This wasn't a scene from Bad boys 2. In real life, situations like this end tragically
Not even that. Those officers chose to instigate the shootout there. Normally you'd wait until he exits the vehicle on foot (they nearly always leave the hostage behind and run) They just didn't want to wait for the proper time. Florida police departments have always been disgraceful.
goes far to show the police don't care a wit about innocent civilians. they'll gun us down and use us as shield to fulfill their orders. this incident shows I'm right.
This man is my hero. Hes put his emotion aside and is going to make a difference. I can only pray that I would be as strong if my son was murdered by police.
Why don't police officers just give up their guns / weapons like in the old days in London, England. However, just the dad guys will have guns / weapons
@@pcrealty You're right, Peter. However, a whole bunch of us good guys would still have firearms... And if we wanted, we could go back to the days before we formed police forces, and we citizens could be responsible for maintaining peace.
They will pay a settlement. Nothing will happen to the officers......cops murder people all the time....havent you guys realized yet. The cops dont work for us. They work for the state, which once the state employees are elected dont work for us any more. This country is cruising towards a wreckoning. We have a president that lies, we have crooked politicians. We have false narritives put out by the news. Hmmm i think America has already been changed.
Dont forget the innocent bystander that also got killed while in the car. Was it from a police bullet, or from the suspects?? That also needs to be investigated.
Ouuuuuu the paper work that is about the descend on them. I remember working for a police department and being investigated because someone said nudged them. They gave me heat like hell, so i quit. These guy deserve everything they are about to get from media, families, the public, and their department
whether he was shot by police or the suspects doesn't matter. if the police had not engaged in a crowded freeway no one would have been in danger and died
@C J they're made up of "peers" who hold cops to a much much lower standard and most of the time cops dont get convicted by a jury almost every time they go in front of a judge to argue their case and are almost always let off
Recklessness on their part, as the father said, they get to go home and Frank did not, my granddaughter lost her father in A car accident 10 months ago, and the pain in Unimaginable, 🙏 for the family
Harry H the family will take recourse They will win their case It may not be in the news but believe me they will get justice for this poor man that was murdered
@Zilla Zalo correct, that is their motto. Doesn't mean they follow it. Police will always respond to one of their own in danger, faster than you or I in danger. They were just worried about the hail of bullets coming at them, and they lost control, protocol with hostages and innocent civilians went to the wayside, and both the suspects and police put innocent lives at risk, and it did result in the loss of two innocent lives. They just call it collateral damage, the same term used when innocent civilians are killed in war. Difference is, police are also civilians whom took a job (usually off a civil service exam), to uphold the law, and protect public property and public interest. They are not military.....
Monstar A You are absolutely correct. They didn’t created the robbery, but the did created the gun battle. Highly intelligent thinkers as those police officers know not to cross the line. They understand how important protocols is at the workplace and their sworn oath is to protect and serve the citizens.
@@AJ-sr3hl Pretty sure the people who were shooting at other people first created the gun battle. And that wasn't the police. They were shooting at people before the police even showed up. But the police caused them to shoot their weapons before they were even there?! Yeah, sure. "Not their fault!"
@L A The police do a risk assessment? Like they come out and say "what was stolen, how much" and then whip out their calculator? Pretty sure "suspects shooting at jewelry store owner" puts them in the "apprehend them and shoot them if you must" category. It's not a mere theft when they're shooting at people in the process. Huge difference. And since when does people shooting people fall in the "nah, let them go" category of the assessment? Since when did this country go "bad guy is shooting at people, cops need to let them go"?
@L A Dispatch: "This is 911, may I take your call?" Guy "Yes, these guys robbed my store and shot at me" Dispatch "Well, your jewelry is insured. Just try not to die. Have a good day" So that's how it goes down now? lol
One person dies in a “mass shooting” and the media is all over it. But when police officers kills people it doesn’t matter because he has a badge and some sort of costume on ? These people who want to “ban guns” don’t actually want to ban guns. They want to take away the guns from the powerless majority and give them to a small group of people, the police. NEWS FLASH!! The police kill more people each year than all mass shooting in US history combined. News flash the police are also human. If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents(police) also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind? Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough.
This was completely mishandled by law enforcement. The people need to demand an independent investigation not only into law enforcement actions that day, but internal protocols on how these situations are handled. Like the father said," I'm not a cop or lawyer, but I have common sense". I'm sure the protocol is not to shoot the bejesus out of a vehicle with a hostage in it while endangering innocent bystanders and using civilian vehicles with civilians in them as shields. Despicable!
no protocols, no negotiations, no procedures, wild wild wild west shoot out. in the middle of rush hours, even a driver near the shooting got killed by a stray bullet.
I'm a police and at the time this happened i was saying the same damn thing. Too much technology for them not to call UPS at the time of the chase. The chase lasted an hour i believe. This is totally wrong by the department. They murdered that young man! All that fired shots should be fired and criminal negligence charges filed!
@@gmann1572 Well, at least there's some police officers who see the truth. A hostage situation should always have a protocol. Plus there's GPS in u.p.s trucks. They also killed a random guy who was just sitting in his car and had nothing to with anything. The fact I see so many citizens defending the cops on this, is highly disappointing and very sad.
@@The1TheyCallFoo313 So many freaking mistakes from the beginning, who was in charge!? Highly responible. i agree totally with the father. I don't bleed what they say blue i bleed right and wrong. Too long of an chase for not to have a better outcome.
Yeah, they shoot until the bullets runs out and they do a tactical reload. In some cases, a settlement is smaller when the suspect is dead rather if they have to be in a wheel chair the rest of their life.
We are dealing with mentally ill robbers. There are reasoning at this point. Police cannot ask the robbers can you please put down your weapons when the robbers are psychotic.
Nicky James Really? I appreciated your comment so much....then looked at the replies to see you had to bring trump into the conversation....get over your hurt feelings and leave “the evil man” who was elected into his position out of it for once. Youre a ridiculous person.
@Ripley It's a typical middle-class house in S. Florida, and he is a retired UPS worker. Anyone can own anything, just work hard like he and his son did.
Wow my heart breaks for his father and family. He is so articulate and calm speaking to the reporter. This could have been avoided. The police were definitely wreckless.
Yeah. Soon as people started shooting, the police should have just left! They're not there to enforce the law and shoot back at people shooting at them!
In rush hour traffic. NO SHOT should have ever been fired. This is f#!@&*g believable. Go get them dad. Every officer that fired a shot. Should be fired and charged. Jailed for a very long time. Negligence is not a strong enough word for their incompetence.
@@SuperMontsta well in a hostage situation they're not supposed to follow so closely and if a shooting does happen officers are supposed to shoot only if they have a clear shot while analyzing the backdrop
@@gill4253 That's what the protocols say for all their agencies? You can say this with 100% fact? Or, is this something you saw in the movies? No imminent danger...if someone starts shooting, you let then shoot? If it's in a mall or school, or crowded intersection...wait till they stop shooting and then make sure you have a clear shot? Guess that Deputy who stood outside the school while the kid was shooting it up, and let all them die because he was "waiting for more people" wasn't a coward not doing his job after all!
@@SuperMontsta lol you're comparing 2 different types of criminals in 2 different types of situations. That school shooter was targeting people and his objective was kill as many as possible. In this case the cops cornered these thieves whose main objective was to get away, I cant say they wouldn't have killed their hostage forsure but I'm pretty sure he would've had a better chance to live. The thieves weren't shooting out of the truck while driving, it was only until they were forced to stop. Even when it's just a pursuit and the suspect goes close to a crowded street or a school zone the police back off or even call off the pursuit, cant say it's a protocol everywhere but its definitely common sense.
Why didnt the police stop the chase and let the suspects drive off knowing their was a hostage with them? They easily could have tracked them down later and caught them without endangering the hostage.
Jay jay dynomite He's an actor. Woody is there to show YOU it's a hoax. No TV crew would allow a noisy, electrical unit to run during an interview! Interference could cause problems for microphone and camera! Woody = Toy. Toy = Pretend!
They where asking for a shootout they should have kept their distance behind the truck and not surround it when it got stuck in traffic. They need to learn from LAPD.
A father taking time to express his emotions about this preventable tragic event and some bozos are giving it thumbs down. Hmmmm i wonder who that could be.
Desertwanderer I disagree. The fact that multiple departments shows that there is a deep flaw in their communication and training. They should definitely be put under review because the call to continue pursuit was made by someone higher up the chain of command. They should go through retraining. You still can’t ignore the fact that these are people too. And they were actively being shot at. There is a flaw in the training for these situations that need to be addressed down there.
SandwitchEater91 we’ve had enough of you morons supporting the blue line while others are being killed! Again I pray this happens to you I really do! Then your family can live through the horrors and lies from police
The officers should get the same treatment as the officers who didnt act on the school shooting. To hell with all the lawsuit talk, two i innocent people lost their lives all due to police negligence
Are you a police tactic instructor? Tell the world how it could of been prevented. I'll wait. These sort of situations don't come with an instruction manual.
Isidro salas dude stop. Are you a troll or a cop? You’re looking for a fight. I support my men in blue but these officers were negligent. It was appalling how they used the individuals who pays their salaries as shields putting those individuals in danger. The cops should not have engaged at that point. They should have kept their distance. That’s how it could have been prevented.
@@isidrosalas5088 actually, there are SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) for just this type of a situation. Cops train or at least supposed to train for these types of situations.
@@isidrosalas5088 STORMING OUT OF THEIR PATROL CARS AND TAKING COVER BEHIND INNOCENT COMMUTERS WHICH BY THE WAY ONE GOT SHOT DEAD IN THE CROSS FIRE... YOU DONT NEED A FCKING TACTIC INSTRUCTOR TO USE COMON SENSE!! THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED PUT, THAT'S THE DAMM TACTIC WHEN IN A HOSTAGE SITUATION
Monstar A Well clearly they are not paid to control a situation. Instead they decided to use their guns like a fire hose to save their own. They might as well not even have shown up to the scene. They did more damage being there. And these are America’s cops that are supposed to serve us and protect us? Terrible.
@@swampflower626 Control? Ummm they're supposed to stop the bad guys. These guys started shooting with people around, in a crowded area. Much like a school or mall. If someone starts shooting in a mall or school, the police should just wait outside...control the area. They'll get him when he comes out. Why go in and shoot at the shooter, right? They'd let dozens die because of fear of shooting one. Totally what I want to see police do
Monstar A lol... you need to read more. The cops were using cars with people in them as cover. The police shot 194 times and the suspects shot 6 times (in the beginning). Some people just don’t care about facts I guess
@@nickmacinnis8633 So they should stand in the open and get shot? That's the smart move? Maybe they could just pick up the cars in rush hour traffic that weren't moving, so they could get their cars in place. You ever been stuck in traffic where you can't move? What do you thinks going to happen if a shooting happens next to your car? Doesn't even have to be police involved. Just people shooting each other. Hint: Your car isn't moving. Better go seek cover or concealment.
Civilians is a word occupying armies used for non military locals. It's creepy to use it to describe non-police. Really says it all about their mentality
Why does the reporter have to point out, that it was his stepson? Who cares he raised like if he was his own son.
@arrick sherkon Exactly who cares.. They no the policeman was wrong.. Why shoot period. They should never follow the truck on a highway period... All them neglected... Such a shame/ disgrace. Mercy Lord 😢 😢 😢
Because reporters are idiots.
I think she was more worried about getting the wording out in a correct way.
Actually it's big shows why hes so calm and why hes the only one there
D. J. Not ALL reporters are dumb. The brilliant reporters in the watergate and Epstein cases just to name a few.
Let’s not forget everyone 70 year old Richard Cutshaw sitting in his car died in the crossfire as well.
Monopoly Mike fax
No crossfire just police bullets , rest in peace Mr.Richard Cutshaw
Sadly he wasn’t even a hostage or even in the truck.
@@RobWitterschein no just sitting there. So sad
Stray bullets got him. Was anybody else hit by the cops maylay of bullets?
I feel so sorry for this man his son should not be dead
Nope -- that's what happens when people break the law and take people hostage.
@@KB-iu2jh aren't you slow on the draw.
Bill More it’s 21 for handguns 18 for rifles
@@KB-iu2jh no, this is what happens when cops are stupid. I fought in Afghanistan and would be in jail if I shot up an intersection like these cops did... Don't be stupid.
@@KB-iu2jh something should "happen" to the cops in that case
The police weren’t suppose to shoot back with a hostage on board that truck.
They should have never approached the truck in the first place... All they had to do was let the helicopter follow the truck... And take them in a less populated area... These guys had to believe the police wouldn't shoot if they took a hostage... It's very possible a sniper could have saved this man... As far as I am concerned his father is right...
L Radiant yes!! Helicopter should’ve been close, cop cars should’ve kept there distance and followed til the ups truck ran out of gas, then negotiations could’ve taken place.
Oh. What other ROE do u know?
@@VitalityFountain right. They should just let them go!
@@drinkspecials unless u think saving some diamonds is worth risking public lives...
The step father is correct with everything that he is saying.
The ups vehicle and theft was insured
And we don’t know what the criminal wanted to do to the hostages
What we know-
The cops killed everyone
John Spartan destroying everything in sight like a real Demolition Man
I would say the UPS driver should have the greatest right to go home to his family then the cops
FACTS
@@thedevilsadvocate5210 I'd say you need to go back and study English.
These officers used innocent civilians as human shields. Every single American needs to take note of this example and never forget it
19 66 THAT PISSED ME OFF!!! that shows cowardly behavior.
19 66 they all need to be charged with murder
The people too scared to move let them
Larry u sound stupid.
The cops priority should have been to keep that innocent man safe, not to have a complete war zone like that
Yes but they were itching for some action and made sure it happened
Spot on
But how else will they get their murder boners?
So very sorry for your families loss.
So we're blaming the cops instead of the criminals?
They already quietly trying to stop talk about this negligent homicide.
You know how it goes, shoot first , ask questions later....
Sarge Powell true
Cover up as usual
If he was black the media would still be all over this story. But he wasn't so it doesn't matter to them.
@@mjr9542 just so u know for every black death that gets media coverage it's 10 that don't.
The police will investigate themselves, and find no wrongdoing.
As usual
It's what they do best.
Hopefully with the fbi involved that’s not the case.
But they were trying to save a hostage
@@kopistedik3542 that... THEY... KILLED. 😶
This dad is the most eloquent, articulate, intelligent man I've ever seen interviewed after such a horrific killing. I'm so glad he will be there for his wife,son, grand daughters, and their mommy. What a terrible, unnecessary loss of such a good young man. RIP Frank, my heart goes out to all who mourn your loss!!!
You must've not seen too many interviews...
Strongheartwoman I agree🙏🙏
@@tmalone2648 Thank you...wish we never had to see his goodness because of this tragedy!
Strongheartwoman Exactly...
@@tmalone2648 :(:::
'Negligence' isn't the word.
'Homicide and gross negligence' are the words.
Hands up don't shoot !!!!! ...
To say the least!
Depraved indifference also applies.
Abandoned and malignant heart
The cops should have never engaged them in that traffic. I agree with the dad.
Not even his own son but he considers him as if he was really his own. The extended love for him is very infectious, speaking from experience... Hats off to you sir.
So your saying that your shocked that someone loves their step son? weird.
@@reza_dc2 not so shocking.. my step dad sexually abused me growing up. Step fathers end up on the news behind a child's death every now and then. I'm not saying a step father shouldn't be expected to love his step children, it's just that, in this day and age, a lot of "expected norms" are not norms anymore.
You don't need to be blood to be someone's father.
I'm also speaking from experience. My stepfather showed me a million times more love and showed me life skills that i use today with my own children. He's the one who showed me how to be a true father figure and what being a parent really should be. He's my real dad. That's the message I was getting out.... Thanks Dave.
@@ucfkid67 That's how it is. Just look at Jeff Bezos (riches man un the world). His blood father left him when he was 2 and his Step-Father for him when he was 3 (or so) and raised him to be the man he is. He calls his StepFather, Dad!
In another interview, a police officer said “if the criminals just give up and are held accountable for their crimes, we wouldn’t put this many people in danger”
I smell incompetence and ignorance.
Yep I just watched it police guy talking Krazy
Christian Donaire they should’ve negotiated and waited hours, they wanted to let them rounds out, everyone let a bullet out.. smh rip the Innocent
Yep a chief officer, mind blowing the disregard for human life of their breed
that sentence makes no sense, it is a shuck and jive avoidance of responsibility i.e: everyone else is responsible, not them. which a lot of cops do. they talk.
If cops were held accountable for their crimes they wouldn't kill over a thousand Americans a year.
I’m a dad. No millions would ever heal if my son was killed
As a dad myself, I must agree..
As I dad I would be angry at the two lowlifes that woke up that morning and instead of going to work like the rest of decided to go rob a jewelry store, their actions and their actions alone caused this tragedy.
Ana nimity oh thank you, what side are you on?
True but I would still act on this. If you do not speak up then those cops will just do the same with another hostage situation. It was ridiculous how many cops were just shooting. There was even bullets on the body of the ups truck, like what in the heck were the cops shooting at? They were like a fire hose with those guns.
JeepDan777 yes, and the system failed these families! They should’ve never been on the streets! That being sad- cops fuvked up!
No one aimed. They just closed their eyes and shot.
Mike Eral that's how the gutless blue line terrorist do their killing
Have you ever had to fire a weapon while being fired upon?
It takes a massive act of self discipline to hold your fire and fire back at ONLY what you directly intend to fire upon.
Inorite Nope. That’s why I’m not a cop. But apparently I could be since that discipline is more of a suggestion than a requirement
Hat's off to the stepdad who managed to stay very composed while expressing his indignation. I hope they get to the bottom of this.
Very well spoken
He is 100% correct. My heart goes out to him and his family .
I feel so bad for that man’s family.He was so needed for his family.
Steven Miz Blood on who’s hands the Coral Gables police chief he was the one who hires the police dude.
I’m glad his father is speaking out.
Im a driver at a ups in Philadelphia, i speak for all the drivers in philly, our condolences goes out to the family.
Thank you# be safe for the holidays.
Should go on strike, just for the fact UPS had a horrible response thanking law enforcement.
Stay safe !
It was his first day driving too.
Y'all deserve better! Stay safe!
Frank was murdered by the police. He deserves justice!
His father is correct, Frank was *murdered.*
Could be worse if they let those guys go and they get some kids killed...you never know
@Kwum aix STFU the cops have a duty to keep the community safe! If we lose a few ppl to save the village THAT'S LIFE
@Kwum aix the Taliban have done a poor job of keeping their Community safe and it's too bad they were too cowardly to face the US Army Head to Head. So basically your heroes are cowards
@Kwum aix yup you're right cops should of never intervened and just let the crimals kill him, then hopefully run to your house next. Stop blaming cops for trying to do their jobs. Try blaming the criminals unless you are one.
This police don't care every police is going to found not guilty
John Spartan destroying everything in sight like a real Demolition Man
Richard S Encarnacion SELF INVESTIGATING
Richard S Encarnacion this is prinarily a civil case. Millions will be paid out. Way more than those robbers stole. Heads will roll. Guaranteed.
@@DeAnnaParisRN a Civil Attorney will get a percentage of settlement.
Robert Dowler yes they will. But it's not likely it will be a small settlement. It was outrageous incompetence and reckless as hell
I know it will never happen but all 19 of those cops should do time. That would send a message that protecting the innocent comes before killing the guilty.
They should just let criminals that take people hostage go. Like if it were my sister being held hostage, I'd rather they rape and torture her. In fact unless someones hurt, people should be allowed to walk into anyone's home and take what they want without fear of gunplay
WickedSharp 001 all they had to do was keep following the gun
WickedSharp 001 maybe they should drop bombs and take out the entire street.
They ought to get the chair, the same one Bundy fried in.
The cops were hiding behind cars with innocent civilians in them!
The HOWARD gimme ur real name so I can go ahead and report you to the police
Slacker my name is Gregg Bruce and I say the innocent people put in jeopardy by the trigger happy, outlaw, and reckless police should have been run over or shot by the bystanders to protect themselves.
F' cowards what if the bullets would of hit a newborn?! So reckless ! They killed an innocent bystander as well.
And they would've shot at any driver of these innocent cars who were trying to flee too. Probably issue a speeding ticket at the least.
@Christie7 Hammon4 Wasn't even trying to be funny and no one is either, except you for having the idea in your head. You have some deep issues.
This father is definitely a smart dude. So sorry for his loss
Very Sad 😢...
Very smart man he is a beautiful soul
0m3n Well spoken man and he’s absolutely correct.
It’s hard to believe he was killed just so the police could catch a thief, a jewelry thief at that.
Except they didn't, did they? The thieves were killed too.
Kill a thief... Like a weapon should not be automatic fire at will. They could have backed off and surrounded him in less populated areas. Using cars as cover with people INSIDE THEM IS STUPID. life is not a movie there was no timer in getting this thief, no fate of the country what happened is a damn shame
Well they always get away with it. So until they start getting the death penalty...
Exactly why we never call them, none of us. NONE!!
@Scriptures Only The police work for the insurance companies. Think about it. If you get in an accident or get robbed, your insurance company wants a police report. You get fined for speeding or seat belts not because of safety, but because of actuarial tables.
“They protected themselves” and Frank is never coming home. Wow that sums it up. So sad. My condolences to this family.
Don't you know? The lives of 1 police officer is worth more than 1,000 civilians. According to cops, anyway.
@@gregfalco4528 does that explain why when one of their own falls they work feverishly and often band many together in a massive manhunt until the suspect is captured / killed, instead of calling it a day and clocking out when it's a regular joe? I think I answered my own question here.
@@nebula1924 The FBI estimates 38.4 percent of murders go unsolved, so....yeah.
@@whiskeyrun4996 dude now that's just sad and depressing Amen tho 😥💕💕🥺
@Pam Schobelock No I misspoke on that post
They murdered his son and also shot and injured innocent bystanders.
killed innocent bystander*
Yeah, the scumbags killed TWO civilians, NOT ACCEPTABLE!
Remember in L.A. one of the cops went rogue and started killing off other cops a little over a decade ago? The L.A. police force's response was to stop everyone and shoot everyone. Or even more recently when the police shot the off duty veteran. They filled him with 60-70 rounds when he didn't fire one then the news says it's okay because it was just adrenaline or that the police aren't used to be hunted. That everything is fine when the cops do it regardless of how many people they kill at point blank range without reason but if the citizens look at the police, God help them.
Recklessness
We’re the robbers black?
This Dad is awesome in his delivery of the event. The dislikes are not humans, they are what’s wrong with the world.
Rays of Light
Cops
Or
boot lickers
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Rays of Light yesssssssss
@Edgar Barcelona more like democrat sympathizers for the criminals. Douch bag!
The word that is missing is “overkill “
Joe, DONT let this go away!! Dont let the death of your boy be forgotten.
We need to march for franky hit the streets he needs justice..Let hes Name be heard he died in vain they spill our blood and live above the law they only care for blue..they have a duty to protect and serve who can we rely on..scream his name let it be heard so they are shamed for they're actions
Who's Joe?
Bruh Behind The Couch
JoeMama
@@destroykevi2657 the stepfather
@@rherrera5244 I know, it's a joke
I know Frank was a great guy because he had such a great man, his father, as a role model.
Just thinking about them kids asking when is daddy coming home, hurts
Twisted_Frequency or worst, they won’t remember him
The forgotten Ghost sadly they won’t remember him 😢. As they grow older all they’ll have to remember him are from pictures and before anyone speaks bad on me. My dad got hurt when I was 7 so just a little older then his oldest girl and I don’t remember our memories. All I have is stories people tell me and the pictures I have.
Hopefully they keep the stories of alive in their memories and as they grow older, they'll remember
his stepdad is absolutely correct here, have several friends in law enforcement and they were very upset with this.
@@lisabuttonz I never feed into trolls but please enlighten us on what could possibly be a hoax about any of this
Police completely treated Frank as collateral damage. Joe is correct 100%. RIP Frank, I'm so sorry for your loss Ordonez Family.
That's right... Because the police carjacked the UPS truck and shoot at responding officers. This wasn't a scene from Bad boys 2. In real life, situations like this end tragically
@@isidrosalas5088 fk out of here they handled that poorly
@@vtecsin03 Yeah, because you would've handled it like how it's handled in the movies... Stfu
Isidro salas you are so stupid and don’t waste your time responding me I won’t read it
@@isidrosalas5088 They handled it poorly. I would have handled it much differently.
I fully agree. Them cops wasn’t trying to save the hostage they was just trying to protect themselves.
protect themselve? not even that.. they were just happy to find some actions
Not even that. Those officers chose to instigate the shootout there. Normally you'd wait until he exits the vehicle on foot (they nearly always leave the hostage behind and run)
They just didn't want to wait for the proper time. Florida police departments have always been disgraceful.
Damn pigs
Travis Ryno it seems Florida’s police might be in serious need of more training
If they wanted to protect themselves, they could have stood down and let the chopper follow the truck until it parked or ran out of gas.
This father is 100% on point. No regards or safety for a whole innocent life that was neglectfully ended.
I hope he’s suing because absolutely no reason it should of went down like that.
Definitely not, should of
oh he will be
Money will never replace a loved one. The Kangaroo circus courts are designed to asset strip and punish. They do NOT heal.
@@nobillclinton No one said that money does that idiot. it obviously doesnt but it will help his 2 young daughters be financially stable.
oh he's paid, sweetie....no worries on that part.
Dude this actually brought tears to my eyes. Those cops cared no one.
If they don't care why would they show up
@@rayj4753 because it's still there jobs genius. You didn't want to flip burgers today but still did it.
Chapel Montoya true
Yes brought tears to mine too, tears of sadness and rage!!
Same
It’s so sad this man is correct that was murder.
goes far to show the police don't care a wit about innocent civilians. they'll gun us down and use us as shield to fulfill their orders. this incident shows I'm right.
This man is my hero. Hes put his emotion aside and is going to make a difference. I can only pray that I would be as strong if my son was murdered by police.
Charge every police officer involved with conspiracy in unjustified homicide.
Why don't police officers just give up their guns / weapons like in the old days in London, England. However, just the dad guys will have guns / weapons
@@pcrealty
You're right, Peter.
However, a whole bunch of us good guys would still have firearms... And if we wanted, we could go back to the days before we formed police forces, and we citizens could be responsible for maintaining peace.
They will pay a settlement. Nothing will happen to the officers......cops murder people all the time....havent you guys realized yet. The cops dont work for us. They work for the state, which once the state employees are elected dont work for us any more. This country is cruising towards a wreckoning. We have a president that lies, we have crooked politicians. We have false narritives put out by the news. Hmmm i think America has already been changed.
@@rom116kjv Unless you're a black cop.
Why because he's Hispanic? I swear if he was African American this whole comment section would be full of why the young man deserved to die.
This guy is insanely well composed for just losing his son.
He has to be... otherwise his family would fall apart. True gentlemen.
I've seen men who've lost their sons. They're dry eyed in public. Behind closed doors, they're a mess.
It's too early. Once reality sets in he may really feel depressed knowing that your loved one is gone
@Janet Holmes *stepson
Theres always that one in the family.
Dont forget the innocent bystander that also got killed while in the car. Was it from a police bullet, or from the suspects?? That also needs to be investigated.
Ouuuuuu the paper work that is about the descend on them. I remember working for a police department and being investigated because someone said nudged them. They gave me heat like hell, so i quit. These guy deserve everything they are about to get from media, families, the public, and their department
Ricky S obviously it was from the police.
Police
whether he was shot by police or the suspects doesn't matter. if the police had not engaged in a crowded freeway no one would have been in danger and died
The cops who shot this innocent man's son needs to pay for that funeral ridiculous action on those officers .
Sad, and they even used civilian cars as cover, placing all those innocence people in danger. Lose cannons.
Lose idiots!
@Clifford Roebuck
Sounds like the truth has just been reviled...no ones giving up their 2nd amendment protection now.
Man this is so sad. My heart hurts for his daughters and his parents. No parent should have to bury a child. My condolences
We have a jury for criminals, we need a jury for police.
I guarantee if it was 20 militia members shooting upon a group of criminals that they would already be hanging from ropes
@donthavetime4that just like how they have judges on standby 24/7 to approve of over 99% of warrants with or without probable cause
@C J they're made up of "peers" who hold cops to a much much lower standard and most of the time cops dont get convicted by a jury almost every time they go in front of a judge to argue their case and are almost always let off
Very well spoken sir, and nothing but the bitter unsalted truth! I salute you and your family, much blessings and strength..❤️🙇🏾♂️
Recklessness on their part, as the father said, they get to go home and Frank did not, my granddaughter lost her father in A car accident 10 months ago, and the pain in Unimaginable, 🙏 for the family
What he said ❤
@@verawallace9055 God bless you, and your family.. 🙏❤️
@@mollyjackson4514 God bless you, and your family.. 🙏❤️
When your in better hands with a carrer criminal then you are the police....
He was in the hands of the kidnappers. That's how he was shot 😮
Nigeleht they didn’t shoot him the rescuers shot him ... irony
@@thexvault I was making a joke. Since he was hostage in the hands of the kidnappers. Obviously big screw up by cops to spray down the vehicle
@@thexvault "rescuers"
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It was murder; they totally disregarded innocent unsuspecting lives.
Not quite murder but I agree with the disregard of life statement.
Jonathan Caulfield Opening fire immediately without regard for the innocent bystanders isn’t murder to you ? 🤔
I agree. They murdered 2 innocents
A 70 yr old man is the other victim that was shot and killed in this shoot out
@A K.A. GHOST WRHYDTAR who you talking about, the hostage or the 70 yr old?
@A K.A. GHOST WRHYDTAR I laughed when I know I shouldn't have! Lol. Lord forgive me 🙏🏽 but that was funny. 😂
Cops probably shot him too! The criminals are only aiming at the cops.
The police who's bullets lay in those innocent bodies need to face trial.
Kwum aix Tell me more of your wrongful arrests made while you were breaking the law. Or he didn’t do nuffin as commingle phrased.
@Kwum aix all cops*
mirandascoool there is a sale on dildos at Walmart
@Kwum aix exactly! It's rare to find a non white cop shoot a unarmed person and NOT go to jail.
This story has already been buried deeper than Blackbeard's treasure.
some cop at a school nearly killed a kid throwing him on the ground, stuff happens so much now people are numb or its the next story
master DOGE go back to your country fool
Harry H facts
Harry H the family will take recourse
They will win their case
It may not be in the news but believe me they will get justice for this poor man that was murdered
@@EmpressLilith222 _ Don't forget the poor schmuck who was just sitting in traffic.
It’s all about police safety! Not safety of the public!
All about Freemasons safety not the public
Zilla Zalo that is not true police don’t care about nobody’s safety. They care about their safety only..
@Zilla Zalo correct, that is their motto. Doesn't mean they follow it. Police will always respond to one of their own in danger, faster than you or I in danger. They were just worried about the hail of bullets coming at them, and they lost control, protocol with hostages and innocent civilians went to the wayside, and both the suspects and police put innocent lives at risk, and it did result in the loss of two innocent lives.
They just call it collateral damage, the same term used when innocent civilians are killed in war. Difference is, police are also civilians whom took a job (usually off a civil service exam), to uphold the law, and protect public property and public interest. They are not military.....
That hole department should be fired for these murders. They believe they are heros but in reality they are ZEROS! Arrest them.
Scott Comstock *whole
So preventable. The cops did a horrible job. Cops created this tragedy.
Yeah. They made the people rob the store and hijack the UPS truck, kidnap the UPS driver!
Monstar A
You are absolutely correct. They didn’t created the robbery, but the did created the gun battle. Highly intelligent thinkers as those police officers know not to cross the line. They understand how important protocols is at the workplace and their sworn oath is to protect and serve the citizens.
@@AJ-sr3hl Pretty sure the people who were shooting at other people first created the gun battle. And that wasn't the police. They were shooting at people before the police even showed up. But the police caused them to shoot their weapons before they were even there?! Yeah, sure. "Not their fault!"
@L A The police do a risk assessment? Like they come out and say "what was stolen, how much" and then whip out their calculator?
Pretty sure "suspects shooting at jewelry store owner" puts them in the "apprehend them and shoot them if you must" category.
It's not a mere theft when they're shooting at people in the process. Huge difference. And since when does people shooting people fall in the "nah, let them go" category of the assessment?
Since when did this country go "bad guy is shooting at people, cops need to let them go"?
@L A Dispatch: "This is 911, may I take your call?"
Guy "Yes, these guys robbed my store and shot at me"
Dispatch "Well, your jewelry is insured. Just try not to die. Have a good day"
So that's how it goes down now? lol
This would’ve been handled with much more care if any one of their wives or children were in that van. Frank’s life was disposable to them.
Sessy Dell Or if it was a fellow cop.
Sessy Dell All citizens lives are disposable compared to cops lives in their own eyes.
This was straight up murder and none of those reckless cops will pay for their poor choices and actions.
Since the police used innocents as human shields can we just call them terrorists🤷🏼♂️
ABSOLUTELY .
That's what they are
See why the Mexican government suspended the capture in Culiacán, Sinaloa of Ovidio Guzmán.
YES
Yep.
The hiring standards have been lowered for cops, and the death rate for innocent bystanders has increased.
My heart goes out to his family and his girls. May justice prevail for Frank.
Justice would be to jail the cop who shot him period!!
I am 200% with you all...
BUT
we all know all the police will be declare INNOCENT at the end..yeah.
"Joe Merino, the stepfather of Frank Ordonez, believes the police are to blame for his death"; and so do I !!! Wild west shootout! Damn Reckless!!!
This wasn't negligence, this was murder. The cowardly cops used innocent bystanders as human shields.
It's pretty much both so he isn't wrong with what he said.
One person dies in a “mass shooting” and the media is all over it. But when police officers kills people it doesn’t matter because he has a badge and some sort of costume on ?
These people who want to “ban guns” don’t actually want to ban guns. They want to take away the guns from the powerless majority and give them to a small group of people, the police. NEWS FLASH!! The police kill more people each year than all mass shooting in US history combined. News flash the police are also human.
If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents(police) also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?
Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough.
@@reecealeck8314 .... And the police are getting out of control.
This was completely mishandled by law enforcement. The people need to demand an independent investigation not only into law enforcement actions that day, but internal protocols on how these situations are handled.
Like the father said," I'm not a cop or lawyer, but I have common sense". I'm sure the protocol is not to shoot the bejesus out of a vehicle with a hostage in it while endangering innocent bystanders and using civilian vehicles with civilians in them as shields.
Despicable!
@@ofontela When are you applying for the PD?
This guy is very smart we need more fathers like this to stand up prayers for the family🙏💪🙌
If it had been a dumb father, what would the difference be? I could care less how smart the father is, he is still alive but his son is not.
@@andersonstevie904 smh positive energy over here 🙏💪🙌
He is incredibly well spoken, especially for having just lost his son. I mean damn, he delivered his message confidently, eloquently, calmly...
The dad sounds like he can be his own lawyer. I AM SO SORRY FOR YOUR LOSS...
All the cops wanted paid vacations for Christmas.
Now I buy that
*paid administrative leave 🕺
"I'm from the government and I'm here to help."
If that doesn't scare you, you're clueless.
catsspat got it. I was once clueless too. Now I oversee what type of business government is. It's a blood thirsty mess.
God bless this man and his family In their time of need.
Jamie Ritcher?
tech 1
No. Different Jamie.
Absolutely. It was murder. Poor man. God rest his soul.
This was murder ! Anyone who defends them would sing a different tune if that was there son or daughter
after you have been a couple gun fights come back and comment again.....
Absolutely your a hundred percent correct.
LR Lapua that’s the job ! You want the respect and honor of the badge but don’t want the risk !
Cutting Style and their supposed to be trained and fit to carry arms????
Manslaughter not murder murder is intentional Jesus Christ you people are dumb
no protocols, no negotiations, no procedures, wild wild wild west shoot out. in the middle of rush hours, even a driver near the shooting got killed by a stray bullet.
Pretty sad that there's people out here defending the police on this. Smh
Because are police doing the same wrong thing .thats why they defend police
I'm a police and at the time this happened i was saying the same damn thing. Too much technology for them not to call UPS at the time of the chase. The chase lasted an hour i believe. This is totally wrong by the department. They murdered that young man! All that fired shots should be fired and criminal negligence charges filed!
@@gmann1572 Well, at least there's some police officers who see the truth. A hostage situation should always have a protocol. Plus there's GPS in u.p.s trucks. They also killed a random guy who was just sitting in his car and had nothing to with anything. The fact I see so many citizens defending the cops on this, is highly disappointing and very sad.
@@The1TheyCallFoo313 So many freaking mistakes from the beginning, who was in charge!? Highly responible. i agree totally with the father. I don't bleed what they say blue i bleed right and wrong. Too long of an chase for not to have a better outcome.
The1TheyCall Foo bootlickers.
A terrible loss of life.
The cops just shoot until everyone stops moving.
Yep
Yeah, they shoot until the bullets runs out and they do a tactical reload. In some cases, a settlement is smaller when the suspect is dead rather if they have to be in a wheel chair the rest of their life.
We are dealing with mentally ill robbers. There are reasoning at this point. Police cannot ask the robbers can you please put down your weapons when the robbers are psychotic.
*No Reasoning
Lisa Button are you unstable?
This father is so dignified. Unreal that it was handled like this in thick traffic.
So much respect for this man. So well spoken at such a ruinous time.
@Ripley I'm sure Trump has some nice residences and he speaks like he picks words and emphasis at random.
Nicky James Really? I appreciated your comment so much....then looked at the replies to see you had to bring trump into the conversation....get over your hurt feelings and leave “the evil man” who was elected into his position out of it for once. Youre a ridiculous person.
Very well done!!! Much respect for this man to be the voice for Frank. Such a tragedy!
I hope the way he speaks doesn't make Frank's life more valuable. This should not have never happened at all.
@Ripley It's a typical middle-class house in S. Florida, and he is a retired UPS worker. Anyone can own anything, just work hard like he and his son did.
They had helicopters following the truck there was no need for the cops on the ground to tail the truck that close being a hostage situation
Cowboy cops mentality.
He sounds like a lawyer. He spelled out the elements of Negligence to a T.
Wow my heart breaks for his father and family. He is so articulate and calm speaking to the reporter. This could have been avoided. The police were definitely wreckless.
No one but a police sniper should have taken any shots.
Yeah. Soon as people started shooting, the police should have just left! They're not there to enforce the law and shoot back at people shooting at them!
In rush hour traffic. NO SHOT should have ever been fired. This is f#!@&*g believable. Go get them dad. Every officer that fired a shot. Should be fired and charged. Jailed for a very long time. Negligence is not a strong enough word for their incompetence.
@@SuperMontsta well in a hostage situation they're not supposed to follow so closely and if a shooting does happen officers are supposed to shoot only if they have a clear shot while analyzing the backdrop
@@gill4253 That's what the protocols say for all their agencies? You can say this with 100% fact? Or, is this something you saw in the movies? No imminent danger...if someone starts shooting, you let then shoot? If it's in a mall or school, or crowded intersection...wait till they stop shooting and then make sure you have a clear shot?
Guess that Deputy who stood outside the school while the kid was shooting it up, and let all them die because he was "waiting for more people" wasn't a coward not doing his job after all!
@@SuperMontsta lol you're comparing 2 different types of criminals in 2 different types of situations. That school shooter was targeting people and his objective was kill as many as possible. In this case the cops cornered these thieves whose main objective was to get away, I cant say they wouldn't have killed their hostage forsure but I'm pretty sure he would've had a better chance to live. The thieves weren't shooting out of the truck while driving, it was only until they were forced to stop. Even when it's just a pursuit and the suspect goes close to a crowded street or a school zone the police back off or even call off the pursuit, cant say it's a protocol everywhere but its definitely common sense.
The police are responsible for his death and the older guy in the car. They broke every rule of engagement there is.
Why didnt the police stop the chase and let the suspects drive off knowing their was a hostage with them? They easily could have tracked them down later and caught them without endangering the hostage.
Agree with you so much
When a dude joins a gang the first thing they want to do is catch a body to move up in rank. Why do Cops have the same mentality 🤔
Bcuz they're a gang.
This is horrible, he should have lived... I’m so sorry, they were negligent.
Jay jay dynomite He's an actor. Woody is there to show YOU it's a hoax. No TV crew would allow a noisy, electrical unit to run during an interview! Interference could cause problems for microphone and camera! Woody = Toy. Toy = Pretend!
Lisa Button - You're odd.
@Cameron Brown Cameron Brown, did you used to live in SF?
@@MrBeevee5 Thank you!
Lisa Button nvm just realized you are religious explains why 😂
Condolences to the family and victims of this tragic incident.
So sad. I’d be crying if I was that dad. I hope time can heal his wounds
The police failed miserably handling this situation!
They were waiting for you, Superman
Why are you so thirsty for attention all you've done is try to get reactions out of people. You're pathetic bootlicker
@@isidrosalas5088 you sir are an idiot 😂😂
They where asking for a shootout they should have kept their distance behind the truck and not surround it when it got stuck in traffic. They need to learn from LAPD.
Police are a definitely responsible for this that's crazy UPS driver and surrounding people in there cars
A father taking time to express his emotions about this preventable tragic event and some bozos are giving it thumbs down. Hmmmm i wonder who that could be.
My heart goes out to this family don’t let this story die police need to be accountable for their actions.
I am so sorry for the loss of your son, I can’t imagine what your family is going through. Sending love from my family to yours.
Let’s see what the outcome is, and who goes to trial?
Nobody.
Facts they will just cut them a fat check. An to say the police didn't shoot him is just crazy
Arlando Beler facts!
Arlando Beler what about the other person that died I don’t hear anything about him the guy in a car I heard.
@@williamelliott6556 I saw a little bit about him on TYT. BUT IT'S ALL SAD.
@@arlandoamb6754 what fantasy do you live. A fat check?
I'm just waiting for the police department to tell us he had marijuana in his blood stream.
Man this hit me hard! I’m sorry for your family’s loss !! Sincerely!
This father is a true Patriarch of his family. Bless him and his family!!!
Their family needs to be compensated at least millions.
SandwitchEater91 those cops responsible need to be in prison for life
Desertwanderer I disagree. The fact that multiple departments shows that there is a deep flaw in their communication and training. They should definitely be put under review because the call to continue pursuit was made by someone higher up the chain of command. They should go through retraining. You still can’t ignore the fact that these are people too. And they were actively being shot at. There is a flaw in the training for these situations that need to be addressed down there.
SandwitchEater91 we’ve had enough of you morons supporting the blue line while others are being killed! Again I pray this happens to you I really do! Then your family can live through the horrors and lies from police
Lol TH-cam has to censor my reply. You don’t want it. I swear.
SandwitchEater91 I don’t care about your blue line defending
OVERPAIDED THUGS should be held accountable for their actions
Absolute disgrace on the police. They should be charged.
@FloAnn Gordon uhhh wut???
These officers should be fired and charged with man slaughter.
Juan Soto murder**
Your so dumb
Yeah? you really think so?
@@sebby910 You're*
The officers should get the same treatment as the officers who didnt act on the school shooting. To hell with all the lawsuit talk, two i innocent people lost their lives all due to police negligence
Exactly, what I said too police killed that poor kid and now his family has to suffer. Could of been prevented!
Are you a police tactic instructor? Tell the world how it could of been prevented. I'll wait. These sort of situations don't come with an instruction manual.
Isidro salas dude stop. Are you a troll or a cop? You’re looking for a fight. I support my men in blue but these officers were negligent. It was appalling how they used the individuals who pays their salaries as shields putting those individuals in danger. The cops should not have engaged at that point. They should have kept their distance. That’s how it could have been prevented.
D W Thank you! Well said
@@isidrosalas5088 actually, there are SOPs (Standard Operating Procedures) for just this type of a situation. Cops train or at least supposed to train for these types of situations.
@@isidrosalas5088 STORMING OUT OF THEIR PATROL CARS AND TAKING COVER BEHIND INNOCENT COMMUTERS WHICH BY THE WAY ONE GOT SHOT DEAD IN THE CROSS FIRE... YOU DONT NEED A FCKING TACTIC INSTRUCTOR TO USE COMON SENSE!! THEY SHOULD HAVE STAYED PUT, THAT'S THE DAMM TACTIC WHEN IN A HOSTAGE SITUATION
The Message is, Frank is not coming back home to he's little girls because police think they above the law...!
Yeah, police aren't supposed to chase bad guys, shoot back at then or anything! That's not what they're paid to do or anything!
Monstar A Well clearly they are not paid to control a situation. Instead they decided to use their guns like a fire hose to save their own. They might as well not even have shown up to the scene. They did more damage being there. And these are America’s cops that are supposed to serve us and protect us? Terrible.
@@swampflower626 Control? Ummm they're supposed to stop the bad guys. These guys started shooting with people around, in a crowded area. Much like a school or mall.
If someone starts shooting in a mall or school, the police should just wait outside...control the area. They'll get him when he comes out. Why go in and shoot at the shooter, right?
They'd let dozens die because of fear of shooting one. Totally what I want to see police do
Monstar A lol... you need to read more. The cops were using cars with people in them as cover. The police shot 194 times and the suspects shot 6 times (in the beginning). Some people just don’t care about facts I guess
@@nickmacinnis8633 So they should stand in the open and get shot? That's the smart move? Maybe they could just pick up the cars in rush hour traffic that weren't moving, so they could get their cars in place.
You ever been stuck in traffic where you can't move? What do you thinks going to happen if a shooting happens next to your car? Doesn't even have to be police involved. Just people shooting each other. Hint: Your car isn't moving. Better go seek cover or concealment.
I know, how about we hold cops to the same standard they hold civilians......make cops responsible for every round that leaves the barrel too!
Drug test them too. All of them. At least once a month.
This is exactly right . The exact same standard .
Civilians is a word occupying armies used for non military locals. It's creepy to use it to describe non-police. Really says it all about their mentality