I agree with that. He was just a kid following the script, yet people were quick to point their fingers at him. In all honesty, I think it's the people who conceptualized the prequels that should be blamed.
He wasn't great in acting, but yeah he was a kid, so what can you expect. IMO the concept of having a kid Darth Vader being a major part of the movie was just wrong. They could have given him a cameo and have adult actors do the adtual acting.
@@mikearcher9390 I'm not saying you should, but sometimes they do need it, just like some guys do. Disclaimer: Never hit anyone, unless you are a professional fighter!
I'm calling bullshit on Brandon Routh. He is once again flying high as The Atom on Arrow/The Flash/Legends of Tomorrow. Superman didn't work for him but Ray Palmer has.
There's a very large career difference between starring in an intended summer blockbuster and part of an ensemble cast on the CW. Sure, it has a dedicated audience, but it's not the same as the audience for a successful film by a long shot. He's not going to get cast in a big film any time soon based upon his appearances on Legends of Tomorrow.
Sure but to say that's his career has been "destroyed" is quite inaccurate. He's been Ray Palmer for three years now on three shows and soon Supergirl it seems when they crossover. It seemed convenient this was overlooked for this countdown. I know it could be argued as subjective but the CW shows are huge worldwide. I myself live in Ireland and am well aware of the full scope of their output. Plus he's constantly on throughout the year. So I'm still calling bullshit on What Culture!
I actually kinda like Brandon Routh. He was also a villain in Scott Pilgrim, frankly one of the funnier ones. I don't think he was a bad Superman, that movie in general was just lame.
I saw Jake Lloyd in person years ago at ComicCon in San Diego. At the time he must have been about 14 years old. He was clearly in an extremely awkward stage of puberty with bad acne. People were coming up, looking at his film pictures, then audibly saying, "Is that really the kid from Star Wars?" Then they would walk away without even buying his picture and autograph. I heard people audibly saying what a crappy film it was, which he could clearly hear. I felt awful for this kid and did buy his picture. I even tried to chat with him a bit, but he was very quiet and looked like he wanted to crawl out of his own skin and die somewhere. It was sad to see a child actor blamed for the poor casting choices of a director. Now I hear he's been in jail and locked up for mental problems. We all make our own choices in life, but he had quite a bit placed on his shoulders at a very young age.
I don't think Hayden ever really attempt to be famous. The guy's living in a farm somewhere on Canada right now with his girlfriend and daughter, only coming out to the spotlight once in a while...
I'll never know why people diss "The League of Extraordinary Gentleman"... it was NOT a bad movie at all. Though Sean Connory was an absolute dunce for turning down roles in LOTR and Harry Potter.
+VredesStall Why? Ian McKellen rocked as Gandalf. As much as I like Connery, I don't think he'd have been nearly as good in the role as McKellen. Connery has a flippancy that comes though even when he's playing a serious role. I don't think it would have worked well with Galdalf as a character.
lokisgodhi Ian did make a very good Gandalf. But consider that LOTR were already hugely successful as novels Sean was foolish for turning it down. But now that you mention it... Sean does have a flippant snobbishness that does come across in his roles.
VredesStall An actor friend of mine tells an interesting Sean Connery before he was famous story. Evidently while filming The Longest Day, (I Think) Connery and another cast member were bored and decided to slip away and go drinking. They did for several hours, majorly delaying and screwing up the shooting and inconveniencing everyone. When they were tracked down, the director and production read him the riot act, the usual 'you'll never work in this industry ever again'. A few month later Doctor No was released.....Oh well.
he was not turned down for skyfall, the director considered him for a short time and then decided not to go with him. And to be honest, staying out of the latter two Matrix films and Indy IV seem like dodging bullets to me.
Because the production studio that makes virtually all of Adam Sandler's movies and TV shows (Happy Madison) is owned by the man himself. His movies are shit, but he still makes a shit ton of money off of them.
MintPieGaming The problem for most people is that almost all of Sandler's films are written or part written by Sandler himself. He's not a terrible actor, he's shown that he can act in his older movies. But his writing just hasn't evolved beyond toilet humour. That was fine for his earlier films which is why they are remembered more fondly, but it takes just a watch of Pixels or The Ridiculous 6 to realise that when he makes bad films, they are REALLY bad. And sadly as he writes them and just hasn't improved his writing beyond his older stuff, he takes the brunt of the hate.
Yeah he has star in movies since superman returns but nothing worthy to speak of so it's still accurate to say his movie career is kinda dead at this point
+PCMasterRace The Ridiculous 6(2015): Budget 60m USD, Gross 450m+ USD Pixels(2015): Budget 129m USD, Gross 245m USD He has a lot of smaller projects as well that don't do too well, but to be honest I'd call that experimentation more than anything. Those movies don't have a very big budget. Overall he is raking in a lot of dough.
Atom was in DC comic's the character that shrank and grew back to normal size, while Captain Atom was in Charlton comics had Super strength, speed, flight, bullet proof and resistant to energy blast and could blast energy. He was later acquired by DC comics.
Atom is pretty much the only good role he's gotten after the Superman..... but still, tho, he's acting suck. needs to seriously consider a career change.
While I'm happy Brandon found success on television, anyone find it somewhat funny that he was basically demoted from Superman to a b-level hero like the Atom?
To be fair it's not exactly a big role. Lead in a major series is a big role. Ensemble cast member in a CW show is not a big role. Certainly in comparison to starring in a Superman movie.
Cursedwind can only assume they missed it or just don't see it as being comparable. The NCIS shows are a massive franchise and ratings hits , as much as I enjoy the DC tv stuff they don't compare and LOT is only into it's.. second series? I presume if it was into it's 6th or 7th or more it'd be mentioned. But minor quibbles!
I don't get it as well. It's now a fan favourite, always played on TV and somewhat of an underground cult hit! It just took time for people to like it! Same with Bette Midler in Hocus Pocus! It failed in 1994 and everyone hated it. Now it's a cult classic and one of her most loved films! Time changes peoples work!
I think it might be the effect drawn from adults at the time being the ones with money to go see those movies. However, when they end up on video or HBO and kids see it, they like it. So then those kids grow up with fond memories of said movies and they compare notes of what they liked about it. Sometimes movies miss their audiences and it takes time for it to find one. Look at American Psycho, I actually saw that in the theatre and tried to get everyone I knew to watch it, though it took about ten years before people started coming out that they liked it. Or the myriad of cheesy 80s movies that adults at the time hated but kids liked, that now live on in cult classic status.
A lot of it has to do with the budget of Waterworld. The success of a film is not judged upon it's gross alone but it's gross in relation to it's budget. Waterworld was so expensive to make that even if it had an extremely high gross, it still didn't make a dime at the box office. It wasn't a terrible movie by any stretch of the imagination but it wasn't good enough to justify it's extremely high budget.
Easy. Costner played a completely unlikable, unrelatable character. They spent a fortune on real sets that could've as easily been created in CGI. The box office it did make was mostly people like me who were curious to see the most expensive movie ever made to that point and see what they wasted all that money on.
League was far more devastating for him. First of all it caused sean Connery to quit along with its director after disagreements on set. It didn't destroy his career per say but made him choose to retire thus not appearing in more movies. Also Sean was more than happy to appear in Time Bandits, it was more of a cameo tbh. The movie did well and is still well regarded today, so I don't see this as a bad decision. He even starred in questionable movies like Zardoz or the avengers (1999 film) and didn't have a problem.
I don't think it was Waterworld that completely ruined Kevin Costner's career. That dishonor likely belongs more to The Postman which was an overly long disaster to watch. Waterworld was ambitious but fell flat. The Postman was just dreadful in every facet.
Always felt bad for Jake Lloyd. The original SW was cringey as hell too (Everything Mark said was so forced, you can tell hes acting) plus Jake was only a kid. He wasn't Hayley Joel Osment, but damn, at least he didnt whine about sand for 3 hours.
I really think Jake Loyd did well in The Phantom Menace, too bad he got so much undeserved wrath from the die hard fans of the Star Wars Saga and other people
Personally I think being typecast in such comedic roles after playing The Nutty Professor destroyed Eddie Murphy's career. I remember a time where he played a whole range of comedic roles from action to romance and was quite successful for it. Then after The Nutty Professor nobody wanted to see him unless it was in a role similar to that one (Flubber, Dr Dolittle, etc), any attempt at playing something different failed, and eventually even those roles became stale so by the time Norbit came along no one wanted to see him at all. It's a pity. I used to really enjoy his movies in the 80's and early 90's.
Waterworld was tough but it was The Postman that ruined Costner. If you don't remember this movie I advise you to do everything possible to keep it that way
Kemosabe k I agree he was everywhere in the 90's and early 2000's. ***** Exactly I wouldn't say it ruined anything. He did One movie. I wouldn't count that as a full blown career.
With Waterworld, Kevin Costner was trying to make himself a brand-new version of Mad Max, thinking he was so bad-ass. This movie was truly FISHTAR, and ruined his magical reputation of Dances With Wolves. Kevin might have done better continuing with more Baseball movies
Jonathan Ward retired from acting/filmmaking for good in 2002. He only one great American film, "Steel Magnolias" (1989) and within five years later in Spring 1994 he and his wife were establishing some success as co-owners of a repair and restoration shop called TLC: Toyota Land Cruisers in Van Nuys, California. The couple have two great sons.
This list sucks....Extraordinary Gentlemen CAN'T destroy Connery's career....he'll soon get an Icon's Award or something....can't destroy you when you get to that level.
1. The one has nothing to do with the other. Your comment is nonsense. 2. The movie was very bad, and has been known to be ranked amongst the worst and most hated movies of all time. 3. He literally quit after that movie, so since you don't personally know Sean Connery, and he seemed to be willing to make many movies up until exactly that point, it's a pretty good assumption that the movie led him to quit. And what's the same as quitting/getting fired? Yes good, say it with me, NOT HAVING A CAREER. Good, good.
@SEQUAJ NI I disagree. Now that news has been surfacing that he was a violent women beater and spouse abuser, I do not think Hollywood would welcome him back with open arms...especially in this current political climate.
Will Cole Sean Connery actually talked about being offered that role (on the behind the scenes of LOEG, I believe) and said how he just didn't understand it. I"m glad how it all turned out, though.
Nope, nope, nope. He was meant to be Gandalf, but he didn't want to work in NZ for 3 years straight (or however long it was). And if you've ever read the books, I think he would have been wicked awesome -- not that I'm complaining about Ian McKellen, who was wonderful.
I still can´t understand why always the Actors themselves lose theyr Career for one bad Movie and NOT the Directors or Producers what made this bad Movies itselfs. An Actor is just doing his Job and acting and even the best Actor in the World was in some bad Films, also the best Director or Producer can have a bad one. But it´s the own fault of the Director and Producer who made a Film like a Piece of Crap and NOT the Actor! What is going on in this World? This Kind of System sucks!
Adam I love you, i really do, but League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen is nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be imo. Lol and calling Halle Berry a has been.....? o_O
The title is kind of misleading. Maybe it should be changed to roles that held actors back. Most of these guys still find work regardless of not having Box Office appeal. A career can only truly be destroyed when an actor can't find any work at all.
Considering that movie stars actually went back to star in TV shows recently because of the money kind of clashes with the conclusion that an actor's career is over when he is just doing TV. Just look at The Rock. He was the best paid actor in 2016, sexiest man alive and so on but he still does a lot of TV stuff like starring in an HBO television show. That was unthinkable a decade ago. Movie Stars would only appear in TV shows if their star was sinking or the show was extremely popular.
The movie listed was Sword Fish. She has done 22 movies since then, including 3 more X-Men, as recently as 2014, you know, the last good one? And is in the new Kingsmen movie. So, hop back into your time machine and travel back to the future place you come from where she is a has been.
well I disagree about Brandon Routh being the reason Superman returns failed. The movie plain sucked anyway. I walked out of the theater for the first time that day and the only time ever
There was actually one awesome scene in Superman Returns: When some thug shot at Superman and they zoomed in on the bullet going in slo-mo seeing how the bullet was compressed by the impact of hitting Superman's eye. That was the one great scene the rest was meh.
Superman Returns was aiight, I ain't gon say it sucked. I actually liked it, but it doesn't compare to Man of Steel. Superman Returns was meant to capture the vibe of the original Donner films (hence why they kept the same theme). Man of Steel was a complete rebirth(see what I did there?) of the character, for a new generation. Both movies are classics in my book.
Jerrius Tate also returns acted as a kind of human shield for MoS because any Superman movie that would've come out as the first since the Christopher Reeves versions would've been shit on just as much regardless
I know it was meant to capture the feel of the Donner films (especially considering it takes place in the same continuity), it's basically homage...but even knowing that I just can't really bring myself to find it a great film. the problem was that there wasn't anywhere else to go with the Donner films; even less so with the whole story with his kid. I mean, it wasn't absolutely terrible but I found it just be an extremely boring movie. Other than his kid, I think another thing that didn't exactly help is it just didn't have a great villain; after years of the DCAU, the comics themselves, and Smallville really showing how amazing, intimidating, formidable, and depthful a character and nemesis Lex Luthor could be, I might have also been just done with the Hackman iteration of him. The eccentric, over-animated buffoon you could hardly take seriously that Spacey later channeled (ironic since he can be an imposing, intimidating man like in House of Cards.). You can probably guess I was a bit let down by Eisenberg basically going the same route with that character in the new DCCU too. lol
Superman Returns was way too slow in pace and relied way too much on Williams music combined with soft lens glamour shots of personality lacking fashion models turned actors. They might as well have used Fabio as Superman if they only went by looks but I guess he refused to cut his hair so they went with Brandon Routh as the next best male bimbo model.
Travolta was a star in the 90's, he was everywhere, and in plenty of excellent films (Pulp Fiction, Primary Colors, Get Shorty, etc.) After Battlefield Earth, his star power faded significantly. Plenty of these actors mentioned are "still around" but they're not the big names they used to be, and neither is Travolta. Nowadays you'll find his starring roles as very limited theatrical runs and straight to VOD, so I think it's fair to say his career has taken a nose dive.
Maybe he'll experience a(nother) renaissance thanks to his role in American Crime Story... Hey, it happened already once with Pulp Fiction, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
I loved the hell out of Superman Returns honestly. I saw it twice in theatres. I just like watching Superman do Superman things and saving people. The story doesn't have to be any more deeper than that for me to enjoy it. I went and saw Man of Steel with no expectations, and all I got out of it was 45 minutes of massive property damage and Superman killing someone. Much worse imo.
Raja1938 no there weren't luthor was. and that cut doesn't count because it was only ever shown on 1 channel. not on my Blu ray set. the set that has the Donner cut, and even the donner cut doesn't have that. it has the reverse time gimmick again. and that scene was never intended to be in the movie anyway because Donner wanted to 1stly leave superman 1 on a cliffhanger and do the time reverse trick in then second film. and also how do you explain zod surviving that fall. he was human. the hand crush alone would of seriously lowered his blood preasure enough to cause a fatality if not given immediate medical attention
8th wonder of the world The fortress in the movie didn't sit at the top of some mountain or cliff from which they'd have fallen to their deaths. Zod & crew at worst would've landed in snow or in water.
Raja1938 you here the distance the fall from there eco. showing it was a deep fall. and knwo it wasn't on a mountain. it was a hole in the ground. so load knows how deep it was. and hitting water after anything more then a 46 metres fall and hitting water is like hitting rock. and even if that was so and they did hit water. and survive.well guess what. it will be freezing cold. hypothermia, and considering the shock zod is already in shock from every bone in his hand being broken. not also forgetting the impact he made with the wall. that alone would of broken his back. meaning he is also paralized. i'm sorry but he is dead. superman killed him. and you can't make up some bullshit excuse of how he lived for the sake of him living.
BradlesMcGee939 it's kind of underwhelming given all the hype and build up, there are some good bits like Ben Affleck's Batman and Jeremy Irons as Alfred but the rest is just a mess
That was actually half of the Costner story. Yes Waterworld was an expensive flop but it was followed by the (other) expensive flop 'The Postman'. Two hugely expensive (& long) flops in a row! Hollywood poison.
By the time Waterworld had been shown on TV, released on video, etc. they actually made money, not sure if the Postman did although it also appeared on TV.
Emm, Mike Myers appeared in "Inglorious Bastards" (2009) a year after "The Love Guru" (2008), then "Shrek Forever After" (2010), that followed by SNL appearences and Shrek shorts and here we are in 2016 he is going to be in Austin Powers 4 and Terminal with Margot Robbie and Simon Pegg. So...not really gone.
He said that he had a small guest role in Inglorious Basterds. but you're right about Shrek 4-ever after. But sadly Austin Powers 4 is kinda stuck in development hell.
I hope not. He's absolutely useless, and more known for his love of backdoor escapades, and getting sued for sexual harassment. I wish he'd go away forever..He gives me hebbie geebies..Ugh
You do realise that since battlefield earth, he has made at least 15 well known films and Tv Series, which is probably why he didn't make the list, as most of the other actors didn't have many hits after their flops which were mentioned.
Return of Superman didn't destroy Brandon Routh's career, it made it. He had no film career to destroy, just bit parts. That film exposed him to the world and opened him up to a continuous stream of television genre roles. Being a ringer for Christopher Reeve will only get you so far. There's not but demand for a Deathtrap reboot. (btw, I would totally watch that.) It did allow you to use that related thumbnail though, so good on you.
But Brandon Routh has become a staple of shows such as Arrow (though he's technically left now) and Legends of Tomorrow. Personally, though I wanted to see him as Superman in "Supergirl" since the dude they got in for that looks completely E.T-weird! It's like his eyes are falling off the side of his face! Heh! Brandon would have been the perfect choice!
Superman Returns may not have been great but it has some of the best Superman scenes of any film. The opening scene of of him saving the space shuttle and plane is thrilling. Then there's the rooftop scene of him walking into minigun fire, then not even flinching from a bullet fired at his eye, which shows his indestructibility.
I LOVED WATER WORLD! That was literally a childhood favourite. True it only recently made its money back but...still enjoyable premise. And acting wise it was good
to be fair, I don't think Elizabeth Berkley wasn't going to have much of a career anyway. the only one u really had hopes for out of the Saved by the Bell crew was Gosselar.
I actually feel sorry for Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen. They were simply doing what they were told. It was Lucas who wrote the lines and directed them. And he had both the money for reshoots and the technology to digitally improve their performances, if it came to that.
Why is it the actors that suffer these consequences and not the directors, scriptwriters, producers, etc.? Does anyone have a serious and well-informed answer to this question? Given that the actors are simply there doing what the higher-ups (e.g. director) is directing them to do based on the scripts they're given, it just makes no sense to me that the actors are those that take the fall when a movie bombs.
It's simple - the actors are the ones we pay to see. And in many cases, we - as in the audience - have no idea WHO the director is, who the producers are, the scriptwriters, etc. Can you name the director, scriptwriter, and producer for Catwoman? I sure as heck can't, but I know Halle Berry and Sharon Stone could have done a hell of a lot better things with their time. With that said, Halle did get some redemption with her fabulous Razzie acceptance speech, while holding her Oscar in the other hand. She's in Kevin Hart's new movie, so hoping that will utilize her comedy chops. But back to the above - the only time I can think of a director getting the blame for something was Zach Snyder's near ruin of the X-Men franchise. It took Brian Singer coming back to put everything back together again. And with that said, I ABSOLUTELY will blame Michael Bay for the ruining of beloved kids' TV classics like Transformers and TMNT, however because China and the US refuse to stop giving this man movie, it doesn't matter how many things he ruins, we'll just let him continue ruining things.
Regina Woodard But even if we can't name directors from memory, much less scriptwriters, the actors are simply not responsible for coming up with the contents of a movie, so it seems rather unfair for us as an audience to "blame the actors"; even if you get a good actor, if you give them a bad movie, things won't end well.
ray True, but you asked why actors are the ones who suffer and that's why. I'm not saying that screenwriters don't suffer - I'm sure the biggest flops in history or those movies that were only big for the summer also don't find work, but still. I don't go to a movie to see a screenwriter (despite being a writer myself) and I don't go based on a director (though it depends on the director), I go to the movies to see an actor in a movie that I find interesting enough to spend money on. I mean, be honest - did you go see Star Wars because George Lucas was behind it (or rather, not behind it) or did you see it cause it was Star Wars? Yes, this trilogy gets a huge bump and pass because the writer from the original trilogy was writing I believe Ep 7 and 8 (and Lucas wasn't going to touch anything that would turn it into the prequels). Star Wars is probably not a good example, but the point being is still actors are the people you go to see. If it's something like Star Wars or Star Trek, then yes, for fans we can look past that. I mean, remember the whole lens flare thing against JJ Abrams?
Yeah, it's well known that actors just turn up on set whenever they like; choose if they star in a film and which character they play; ignore the script and invent their own lines as they go; direct themselves an ignore whatever the director tells them; wear what they like because the wardrobe department doesn't exist; and dictate how a scene is filmed because they know more than the cameraman or DoP... :/
thecryingpanda Yeah if the actor/actress act like that they deserved to be fired or never again to be invited for the next project...but most of these projects failed because of bad story line, like Godfather part III or live action Avatar aang series. People know it's not entirely the casts's fault
Sometimes it really IS the directors and writers. I mean just look at "Star Wars: The Phantom Menace" it had Keira Knightley, Natalie Portman, Samuel L Jackson, Ewan McGregor, AND Liam Neeson. That is a pretty beefy cast in terms of star power AND great acting. But George Lucas basically castrated them of their acting ability as a director. That, mixed with a terrible paced, boring, plot hole riddled script and sometimes no amount of star power can save it
L8 Valentine Yeah; when you have as much proven talent as there was in the Phantom Menace, all turning in pedestrian, uninspiring, soulless, unemotional performances, it is either a mass coincidence that they all forgot how to successfully do their jobs at the same time, or it was down to the director. Lucas was at fault.
Like in politics, the voice of the majority rules, if people simply don't go and watch the movie or buy the DVD then the movie becomes a Box Office Buster meaning that the producers are loosing money instead of earning it, Waterworld made a small profit. I liked Kevin Costner performance at that movie but Dennis Hopper as the Deacon was dreadful in my humble opinion.
Brandon Routh was in Scott Pilgrim vs. the World which came out 4 years after superman returns and he was amazing in that movie. That movies is also on of the best movies ever made. "She dusts" - Brandon Routh
Jake Lloyd would make a great Anakin Skywalker as an adult. I mean, just look at his mugshot. Doesn't that scream pissed off Jedi? cdn.thedailybeast.com/content/dailybeast/articles/2015/06/23/the-real-life-fall-of-anakin-skywalker-jake-lloyd-s-journey-from-star-wars-to-prison/jcr:content/image.img.2000.jpg/1445374076937.cached.jpg
No one hated the existence of Superman Returns more then me. But Routh has managed to do far more since it then before. Literally my skepticism at the time was because he had done nothing. Now he's managed to impress me at Ray Palmer.
It's actually hard to fathom how much of a sh*tty director George Lucas has become. He used to be a god among Hollywood directors. He has become an honestly _bad_ film director. Just an outright bad director. The Star Wars prequel trilogy was plagued with poor writing, poor characterization (which is part of poor writing, but I wanted to bring that up separately) and poor acting. All of these are things that a good director would see, catch and fix. A good director would read the script, see that it's poor, and demand fixes. A good director would notice bad acting, find the cause (because it's not _always_ the actor him or herself who is to blame) and do whatever he can to fix it. A good director would notice that the movie as a whole has something wrong with it, and fix it; preferably as soon during the production as possible, to decrease costs. Not only did not Lucas not fix these things, there is evidence that he actually _ignored_ people who were advising him during the production of the movies and telling him about the problems. I think he should have listened to them. On top of that, Lucas has been adamant about butchering the original Star Wars movies, and refusing to release the high-quality unmodified copies of the originals. It's like he's ashamed of the original work he did, and is stubborningly refusing to let anybody see them, and doing his best to erase the original unmodified films from history. Which is a really shitty thing to do, really, because the original films are important in the history of cinematography and the history of popular culture. He is doing a disservice to our modern cultural history.
Yeah, I genuinely feel bad for Jake Lloyd. He was just a kid, and people tore him apart.
I agree with that. He was just a kid following the script, yet people were quick to point their fingers at him. In all honesty, I think it's the people who conceptualized the prequels that should be blamed.
He was just as mediocre a few years later when he was in season six of 24. Nothing there.
On top of that it wasn't his fault. Lucas is to dialogue as Adam is to having a horrible smile.
Linerunner99 he wasn't in season 6 of 24. If you're thinking of Jack's nephew, he was played by an actor named Evan Ellingson.
He wasn't great in acting, but yeah he was a kid, so what can you expect. IMO the concept of having a kid Darth Vader being a major part of the movie was just wrong. They could have given him a cameo and have adult actors do the adtual acting.
Sean Connery retired because he was 75 years old, knighted and worth $100 million, not because of a single movie bomb.
If I had those stats, I'd retire too.
he just has more time to hit women " if they need it"!
He also made a promise to his wife to retire from the "heavy action" films
Christian4life86 yup
@@mikearcher9390 I'm not saying you should, but sometimes they do need it, just like some guys do.
Disclaimer: Never hit anyone, unless you are a professional fighter!
'Kevin Spacey survived intact'.
Oops.
Mel Christensen haha 😂
I'm calling bullshit on Brandon Routh. He is once again flying high as The Atom on Arrow/The Flash/Legends of Tomorrow. Superman didn't work for him but Ray Palmer has.
There's a very large career difference between starring in an intended summer blockbuster and part of an ensemble cast on the CW. Sure, it has a dedicated audience, but it's not the same as the audience for a successful film by a long shot. He's not going to get cast in a big film any time soon based upon his appearances on Legends of Tomorrow.
Sure but to say that's his career has been "destroyed" is quite
inaccurate. He's been Ray Palmer for three years now on three shows and
soon Supergirl it seems when they crossover. It seemed convenient this
was overlooked for this countdown. I know it could be argued as
subjective but the CW shows are huge worldwide. I myself live in
Ireland and am well aware of the full scope of their output. Plus he's
constantly on throughout the year. So I'm still calling bullshit on
What Culture!
yea, i was about to say that, when i saw the thumbnial for the video,
but that Atom/Iron Man thingy is horrible. I stopped watching The Flash when he made a cameo in the show lol.
I actually kinda like Brandon Routh. He was also a villain in Scott Pilgrim, frankly one of the funnier ones. I don't think he was a bad Superman, that movie in general was just lame.
Connery as Gandalf would have been insanely ridiculous.
Johnnythefirst don't you mean inshanely ridiculoush
Dare Devil z
You schall not pasch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It would have been schitt.
Johnnythefirst
Thank god that didn't happen!
I saw Jake Lloyd in person years ago at ComicCon in San Diego. At the time he must have been about 14 years old. He was clearly in an extremely awkward stage of puberty with bad acne. People were coming up, looking at his film pictures, then audibly saying, "Is that really the kid from Star Wars?" Then they would walk away without even buying his picture and autograph. I heard people audibly saying what a crappy film it was, which he could clearly hear. I felt awful for this kid and did buy his picture. I even tried to chat with him a bit, but he was very quiet and looked like he wanted to crawl out of his own skin and die somewhere. It was sad to see a child actor blamed for the poor casting choices of a director. Now I hear he's been in jail and locked up for mental problems. We all make our own choices in life, but he had quite a bit placed on his shoulders at a very young age.
Whenever I see people complain about *actors* in the prequels, I remind them that they had to work *under the direction of George Lucas*.
There was Hayden Christensen. He's just GONE. Never again. Although technically we could blame Jumper for that.
Mike Hunt What about his legendary work on Goosebumps?!! You cannot deny that his work has been greatly influential! *twirls cape*
I have seen it. A security hologram of him... killing younglings!!!!!!!!
all I have to say about Hayden Christensen acting skills is shattered glass.
I don't think Hayden ever really attempt to be famous. The guy's living in a farm somewhere on Canada right now with his girlfriend and daughter, only coming out to the spotlight once in a while...
I'll never know why people diss
"The League of Extraordinary Gentleman"...
it was NOT a bad movie at all.
Though Sean Connory
was an absolute dunce
for turning down roles
in LOTR and Harry Potter.
I also liked it but it always bothered me that Quartermains club gets blown up and his friends along with it and he doesn't even notice it.
+VredesStall Why? Ian McKellen rocked as Gandalf. As much as I like Connery, I don't think he'd have been nearly as good in the role as McKellen. Connery has a flippancy that comes though even when he's playing a serious role. I don't think it would have worked well with Galdalf as a character.
lokisgodhi
Ian did make a very good Gandalf.
But consider that LOTR were already
hugely successful as novels
Sean was foolish for turning it down.
But now that you mention it...
Sean does have a flippant snobbishness
that does come across in his roles.
VredesStall
An actor friend of mine tells an interesting Sean Connery before he was famous story. Evidently while filming The Longest Day, (I Think) Connery and another cast member were bored and decided to slip away and go drinking. They did for several hours, majorly delaying and screwing up the shooting and inconveniencing everyone. When they were tracked down, the director and production read him the riot act, the usual 'you'll never work in this industry ever again'. A few month later Doctor No was released.....Oh well.
he was not turned down for skyfall, the director considered him for a short time and then decided not to go with him.
And to be honest, staying out of the latter two Matrix films and Indy IV seem like dodging bullets to me.
Yet: Adam Sandler, David Spade, & Kevin James make movies & TV shows, how does this make any sense.
Because the production studio that makes virtually all of Adam Sandler's movies and TV shows (Happy Madison) is owned by the man himself.
His movies are shit, but he still makes a shit ton of money off of them.
It doesn't qualify as destroyed career as far as money is concerned.
Sam O'Hara I don't fucking understand why people say his movies are bad I really like them.
MintPieGaming The problem for most people is that almost all of Sandler's films are written or part written by Sandler himself. He's not a terrible actor, he's shown that he can act in his older movies. But his writing just hasn't evolved beyond toilet humour. That was fine for his earlier films which is why they are remembered more fondly, but it takes just a watch of Pixels or The Ridiculous 6 to realise that when he makes bad films, they are REALLY bad. And sadly as he writes them and just hasn't improved his writing beyond his older stuff, he takes the brunt of the hate.
Zohan is a very good movie.
I feel that Waterworld's unfairly underrated. That atoll siege is absolutely cracking.
Routh's career is dead? Then who plays Ray Plamer in Legends Of Tomorrow? Could've sworn that was him.
film career is dead*
still not accurate, he worked in many more movies after superman..
Nobby76 like Dylan Dog
thats what i was gonna say too
Yeah he has star in movies since superman returns but nothing worthy to speak of so it's still accurate to say his movie career is kinda dead at this point
Brandon Routh's career wasn't destroyed by Superman Returns. He was always a TV actor and now he's found some success on Legends on Tomorrow.
Adam Sandler in whatever his first movie was.
Nah. His first one or two were good.
He used to be a good actor with all of his movies being mostly good, and then they became repetetive.
Sandlers career is still doing fine.
Maybe not artistically but commercially.
+NostalgiNorden his movies lose money.
+PCMasterRace
The Ridiculous 6(2015): Budget 60m USD, Gross 450m+ USD
Pixels(2015): Budget 129m USD, Gross 245m USD
He has a lot of smaller projects as well that don't do too well, but to be honest I'd call that experimentation more than anything. Those movies don't have a very big budget. Overall he is raking in a lot of dough.
I'm laughing a year later at that Kevin Spacey comment
Brandon Routh now plays The Atom in The Legends of Tomorrow and Green Arrow tv shows.
Captain atom is someone else, he is just the atom
Miles Martin Oh. I thought they just called him Atom for short.
Atom was in DC comic's the character that shrank and grew back to normal size, while Captain Atom was in Charlton comics had Super strength, speed, flight, bullet proof and resistant to energy blast and could blast energy. He was later acquired by DC comics.
also todd in scott pilgrim vs. the world
Atom is pretty much the only good role he's gotten after the Superman.....
but still, tho, he's acting suck. needs to seriously consider a career change.
Connery retired. So that doesn't really count
Ralph is now on Arrow and Legends of tomorrow. Not exactly on the streets.
Routh?
Yeah, if Sean Connery wanted to act again, someone would hire him in a second.
Most believe Connery's decision to retire has a lot to do with the failure of that film.
scwhk1 yes because it wouldnt because he was getting old
scwhk1 Connery said in the past that he was tired of only being offered roles as 'the old man'. He wanted to remain as a leading man..
While I'm happy Brandon found success on television, anyone find it somewhat funny that he was basically demoted from Superman to a b-level hero like the Atom?
keven pumarejo Funny but he fits the role well
he was still doing plenty of movies after superman, he didn't only work in tv after superman.
I love his role in DC legends of tomorrow
Kirsti Swanson
me too, i think he plays the atom well
keven pumarejo He kicked ass tonight on Legends. Honestly I feel he's a better Atom than Superman.
I can't be the only one who actually liked League of Extraordinary Gentleman, can I? It was like The Avengers BEFORE The Avengers xD
I agree. It was okay.
You mean, with Sean Connery in the bear costume?
It was okay but by far not the best I had seen from Sir Sean Connery
I liked it too! WTF GUYS! Jackass critics.
I did too. I actually like it better than the graphic novel (which I only liked the literary cameos.)
Can an acting career be considered destroyed if he's part of more than one popular tv series(Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow)
Ran Wolf film career and he did mention found some success but really, the DC TV shows are nothing compared to what he had before.
*****
he was on a soap opera before SR. Arrow and Legends of Tomorrow can be considered a step up
by hollywood standards, absolutely
Indeed. He was also in Chuck, and movies like Scott Pilgrim and Dylan Dog (though I'm not sure that is a feather in his cap)..
Scott pilgrim was a cameo and soap operas are not a step up
LOL @ Jake Lloyd from Star Wars "not having much of a career" before it. Could it be he was 10 frikkin years old?!
Yeah Lucas with assistance in production is a genius but alone a idiot
Didn't the guy who played Superman in Superman Returns play a really big role in Legends of Tomorrow as The Atom?
I was about to comment about that. But you beat me to it.
To be fair it's not exactly a big role. Lead in a major series is a big role. Ensemble cast member in a CW show is not a big role. Certainly in comparison to starring in a Superman movie.
He also played the vegan in Scott Pilgrim vs. The World
Spider Jerusalem Huge role,no,but since he mentioned Robin from Batman and Robin being in CSI,why not him being in LOT?
Cursedwind can only assume they missed it or just don't see it as being comparable. The NCIS shows are a massive franchise and ratings hits , as much as I enjoy the DC tv stuff they don't compare and LOT is only into it's.. second series? I presume if it was into it's 6th or 7th or more it'd be mentioned. But minor quibbles!
Sean connery retired. His career wasn't destroyed, he just decided he'd had enough.
why do people hate waterworld so fucking much?? i watched it as a young lad and i still watch it today, and its still great in my eyes.
I don't get it as well. It's now a fan favourite, always played on TV and somewhat of an underground cult hit! It just took time for people to like it!
Same with Bette Midler in Hocus Pocus! It failed in 1994 and everyone hated it. Now it's a cult classic and one of her most loved films!
Time changes peoples work!
I think it might be the effect drawn from adults at the time being the ones with money to go see those movies. However, when they end up on video or HBO and kids see it, they like it. So then those kids grow up with fond memories of said movies and they compare notes of what they liked about it. Sometimes movies miss their audiences and it takes time for it to find one. Look at American Psycho, I actually saw that in the theatre and tried to get everyone I knew to watch it, though it took about ten years before people started coming out that they liked it. Or the myriad of cheesy 80s movies that adults at the time hated but kids liked, that now live on in cult classic status.
+Anthony Sforza well said.
A lot of it has to do with the budget of Waterworld. The success of a film is not judged upon it's gross alone but it's gross in relation to it's budget. Waterworld was so expensive to make that even if it had an extremely high gross, it still didn't make a dime at the box office.
It wasn't a terrible movie by any stretch of the imagination but it wasn't good enough to justify it's extremely high budget.
Easy. Costner played a completely unlikable, unrelatable character. They spent a fortune on real sets that could've as easily been created in CGI. The box office it did make was mostly people like me who were curious to see the most expensive movie ever made to that point and see what they wasted all that money on.
AM I THE ONLY ONE ACTUALLY LOVE THE LXG???
Faizal Iqbal
That was very cool movie...
and I think Connery did a
hell of alot worse in
"Time Bandits".
ugh!! xO
League was far more devastating for him. First of all it caused sean Connery to quit along with its director after disagreements on set. It didn't destroy his career per say but made him choose to retire thus not appearing in more movies. Also Sean was more than happy to appear in Time Bandits, it was more of a cameo tbh. The movie did well and is still well regarded today, so I don't see this as a bad decision. He even starred in questionable movies like Zardoz or the avengers (1999 film) and didn't have a problem.
The part of Agamemnon in Time Bandits was written for an actor such as Sean Connery. The script found its way to Connery and he agreed to do it.
Read the comic and weep
Faizal Iqbal I remember liking League of Extraordinary Gentleman
I don't think it was Waterworld that completely ruined Kevin Costner's career. That dishonor likely belongs more to The Postman which was an overly long disaster to watch. Waterworld was ambitious but fell flat. The Postman was just dreadful in every facet.
Always felt bad for Jake Lloyd. The original SW was cringey as hell too (Everything Mark said was so forced, you can tell hes acting) plus Jake was only a kid. He wasn't Hayley Joel Osment, but damn, at least he didnt whine about sand for 3 hours.
I'm sorry the kid sucked as an actor , not hating just a fact
I felt bad for him, too. The awfulness of the prequals was on Lucas, really. And Jake certainly didn't deserve the hate he got!
I really think Jake Loyd did well in The Phantom Menace, too bad he got so much undeserved wrath from the die hard fans of the Star Wars Saga and other people
He was also in Jingle All the Way with Arnold. He was less cringe worthy in that one.
Brandon Routh career is not dead he's a main charecter in Legends of Tommarow as Atom.
His movie career is dead not his television role
The whole thing is that he got scapegoated for Superman Returns, and it took him a decade to find work.
Sean Connery? How can you "ruin ur career" after 40 yrs? He was 76 when ...League came out. I know this is YT but plz do a little research.
The little shit who played Aang in 'The Last Airbender' actually everybody in 'The Last Airbender'.
Madalin Grama Slumdog was before The Last Airbender. Truthfully, he wasn't a bad Zuko (acting could of been better but he knew the movie was shit).
He was in Chappie afterward, which I thought was pretty good.
Could be that nobody told you, but there is a worldwide silent agreement that that film does not exist.
BlackKraya Along with that supposed 'Spider-Man 3' that unfortunately never got made, to my knowledge. Pity.
The Last Airbender film exist I saw it broadcast on TV.
Norbit killed Eddie Murphy's career imo.
***** And Norbit is probably the reason why he didn't win lol
Personally I think being typecast in such comedic roles after playing The Nutty Professor destroyed Eddie Murphy's career. I remember a time where he played a whole range of comedic roles from action to romance and was quite successful for it. Then after The Nutty Professor nobody wanted to see him unless it was in a role similar to that one (Flubber, Dr Dolittle, etc), any attempt at playing something different failed, and eventually even those roles became stale so by the time Norbit came along no one wanted to see him at all.
It's a pity. I used to really enjoy his movies in the 80's and early 90's.
Nah that honor goes to The Adventure of Pluto Nash.
alaskanhybrid Pluto Nash came before Shrek, so it didn't quite kill his career. Nearly tho hahah
alaskanhybrid Almost. The Shrek franchise gave him another chance lol
Poor Jake Lloyd. He just did what he was told to do on set as a main character in a Star Wars movie and all he got was shit.
Waterworld was tough but it was The Postman that ruined Costner. If you don't remember this movie I advise you to do
everything possible to keep it that way
agreed
Agreed the postman wasnt that good but watetworld is boss
Brandon is The Atom now what are you talking about?!?
yeah but he is still not in movies
Correct but they didn't mention his TV career l he hasn't just disappeared.
+Khailia Warren I think Josh Hartnett deserves to be in this list
And he wasn't in movies before Superman Returns. Since then he has been in a couple. You can't destroy something that didn't exist.
Kemosabe k I agree he was everywhere in the 90's and early 2000's.
***** Exactly I wouldn't say it ruined anything. He did One movie. I wouldn't count that as a full blown career.
Sucks how the shittiest director and series basically ruined a child's life
With Waterworld, Kevin Costner was trying to make himself a brand-new version of Mad Max, thinking he was so bad-ass. This movie was truly FISHTAR, and ruined his magical reputation of Dances With Wolves. Kevin might have done better continuing with more Baseball movies
One of the worst ever was so disappointed
I think Kevin Costner was brilliant in Waterworld, what I didn't like was "The Deacon" character played by Dennis Hopper
Even then I don’t think building would have made them come.
Waterworld wasnt that bad of a movie its only because of the budget inflation people talk shit about it
Jonathan Ward retired from acting/filmmaking for good in 2002. He only one great American film, "Steel Magnolias" (1989) and within five years later in Spring 1994 he and his wife were establishing some success as co-owners of a repair and restoration shop called TLC: Toyota Land Cruisers in
Van Nuys, California. The couple have two great sons.
Ill never forget Oiled up Burt Reynolds in Striptease
Wouldn't you want to at least try?
I've tried BELIEVE ME
Wasn't it actually Vaseline?
Shawn Noyes Think you're right actually. either way horrifying
Shawn Noyes Yeah, that's not better
This list sucks....Extraordinary Gentlemen CAN'T destroy Connery's career....he'll soon get an Icon's Award or something....can't destroy you when you get to that level.
Indiana Jones's Dad!
Agreed. Besides I liked LXG. Way better than "Van Helsing", for instance.
He could come back anytime he wanted he simply chooses not to, a destroyed career implies the decision is out of his hands
1. The one has nothing to do with the other. Your comment is nonsense.
2. The movie was very bad, and has been known to be ranked amongst the worst and most hated movies of all time.
3. He literally quit after that movie, so since you don't personally know Sean Connery, and he seemed to be willing to make many movies up until exactly that point, it's a pretty good assumption that the movie led him to quit. And what's the same as quitting/getting fired? Yes good, say it with me, NOT HAVING A CAREER. Good, good.
@SEQUAJ NI I disagree. Now that news has been surfacing that he was a violent women beater and spouse abuser, I do not think Hollywood would welcome him back with open arms...especially in this current political climate.
They didn't offer Sean Connery the role of Gandalf. They offered him the role of the King of Rohan.
Also, I think the real reason he retired was because of failing health which he kept secret for quite a while.
That could have been interesting, although Bernard Hill was pretty awesome as Theoden.
Will Cole Sean Connery actually talked about being offered that role (on the behind the scenes of LOEG, I believe) and said how he just didn't understand it. I"m glad how it all turned out, though.
Nope, nope, nope. He was meant to be Gandalf, but he didn't want to work in NZ for 3 years straight (or however long it was). And if you've ever read the books, I think he would have been wicked awesome -- not that I'm complaining about Ian McKellen, who was wonderful.
I still can´t understand why always the Actors themselves lose theyr Career for one bad Movie and NOT the Directors or Producers what made this bad Movies itselfs. An Actor is just doing his Job and acting and even the best Actor in the World was in some bad Films, also the best Director or Producer can have a bad one. But it´s the own fault of the Director and Producer who made a Film like a Piece of Crap and NOT the Actor! What is going on in this World? This Kind of System sucks!
Adam I love you, i really do, but League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen is nowhere near as bad as you make it out to be imo. Lol and calling Halle Berry a has been.....? o_O
You guys are clearly forgetting that Chris O'Donnell made an amazing comeback with Cats & Dogs: The Revenge of Kitty Galore
The title is kind of misleading. Maybe it should be changed to roles that held actors back. Most of these guys still find work regardless of not having Box Office appeal. A career can only truly be destroyed when an actor can't find any work at all.
Most of these guys' film careers are pretty much dead (not including TV).
14DANESSJ Well the title should add film career instead flat out saying their entire career is dead.
exactly
Some of them , like Routh and Berkley, didn't have much of a career before those roles, so the title is just weirdly wrong
Considering that movie stars actually went back to star in TV shows recently because of the money kind of clashes with the conclusion that an actor's career is over when he is just doing TV. Just look at The Rock. He was the best paid actor in 2016, sexiest man alive and so on but he still does a lot of TV stuff like starring in an HBO television show. That was unthinkable a decade ago. Movie Stars would only appear in TV shows if their star was sinking or the show was extremely popular.
The superman guy is doing quite well on TV with Legends of tomorrow.
Halley Berry is in the fucking X-Men!
The movie still exist.
The movie listed was Sword Fish. She has done 22 movies since then, including 3 more X-Men, as recently as 2014, you know, the last good one? And is in the new Kingsmen movie. So, hop back into your time machine and travel back to the future place you come from where she is a has been.
Actually, the movie they mentioned was Catwoman. She was rubbish and the film was rubbish!
True.
i like league of extraordinary gentlemen.
well I disagree about Brandon Routh being the reason Superman returns failed. The movie plain sucked anyway. I walked out of the theater for the first time that day and the only time ever
2006jakebob I just completely forgot about most of what happened xD
well, I can tell you it was the most predictable movie and so slow that it was boring yet the only thing that wasnt predictable was appoling
nicky anne nasution yup, that's another good point
There was actually one awesome scene in Superman Returns: When some thug shot at Superman and they zoomed in on the bullet going in slo-mo seeing how the bullet was compressed by the impact of hitting Superman's eye. That was the one great scene the rest was meh.
I agree, that scene was actually pretty awesome
this list should be called "Actors who get steady work on TV but arent in films anymore."
Superman Returns was aiight, I ain't gon say it sucked. I actually liked it, but it doesn't compare to Man of Steel. Superman Returns was meant to capture the vibe of the original Donner films (hence why they kept the same theme). Man of Steel was a complete rebirth(see what I did there?) of the character, for a new generation. Both movies are classics in my book.
Jerrius Tate also returns acted as a kind of human shield for MoS because any Superman movie that would've come out as the first since the Christopher Reeves versions would've been shit on just as much regardless
Superman Returns also came out when Smallville was still on TV and some fans were pissed Tom Welling didn't get the job.
yeah I'm glad ppl are getting over that, I like the flash tv show but I wouldn't really want to see wuts his face in the JL movie.
I know it was meant to capture the feel of the Donner films (especially considering it takes place in the same continuity), it's basically homage...but even knowing that I just can't really bring myself to find it a great film. the problem was that there wasn't anywhere else to go with the Donner films; even less so with the whole story with his kid.
I mean, it wasn't absolutely terrible but I found it just be an extremely boring movie. Other than his kid, I think another thing that didn't exactly help is it just didn't have a great villain; after years of the DCAU, the comics themselves, and Smallville really showing how amazing, intimidating, formidable, and depthful a character and nemesis Lex Luthor could be, I might have also been just done with the Hackman iteration of him. The eccentric, over-animated buffoon you could hardly take seriously that Spacey later channeled (ironic since he can be an imposing, intimidating man like in House of Cards.).
You can probably guess I was a bit let down by Eisenberg basically going the same route with that character in the new DCCU too. lol
Superman Returns was way too slow in pace and relied way too much on Williams music combined with soft lens glamour shots of personality lacking fashion models turned actors. They might as well have used Fabio as Superman if they only went by looks but I guess he refused to cut his hair so they went with Brandon Routh as the next best male bimbo model.
water world was awesome man!!! it was like a mad max on the ocean
John Travolta in Battlefield Earth?
This isnt a list of bad movies. It's a list of actors whose movie careers are over. Travolta is still around.
yeah, lets just hope he stops talking in the oscars
Travolta was a star in the 90's, he was everywhere, and in plenty of excellent films (Pulp Fiction, Primary Colors, Get Shorty, etc.)
After Battlefield Earth, his star power faded significantly. Plenty of these actors mentioned are "still around" but they're not the big names they used to be, and neither is Travolta. Nowadays you'll find his starring roles as very limited theatrical runs and straight to VOD, so I think it's fair to say his career has taken a nose dive.
Scientology ended his career...
Maybe he'll experience a(nother) renaissance thanks to his role in American Crime Story... Hey, it happened already once with Pulp Fiction, it isn't out of the realm of possibilities.
I loved the hell out of Superman Returns honestly. I saw it twice in theatres. I just like watching Superman do Superman things and saving people. The story doesn't have to be any more deeper than that for me to enjoy it. I went and saw Man of Steel with no expectations, and all I got out of it was 45 minutes of massive property damage and Superman killing someone. Much worse imo.
proberty damage caused by zod. the same character reeve's superman killed.
Watch the unedited cut. Zod & co were arrested at the end.
Raja1938 no there weren't luthor was. and that cut doesn't count because it was only ever shown on 1 channel. not on my Blu ray set. the set that has the Donner cut, and even the donner cut doesn't have that. it has the reverse time gimmick again. and that scene was never intended to be in the movie anyway because Donner wanted to 1stly leave superman 1 on a cliffhanger and do the time reverse trick in then second film.
and also how do you explain zod surviving that fall. he was human. the hand crush alone would of seriously lowered his blood preasure enough to cause a fatality if not given immediate medical attention
8th wonder of the world The fortress in the movie didn't sit at the top of some mountain or cliff from which they'd have fallen to their deaths. Zod & crew at worst would've landed in snow or in water.
Raja1938 you here the distance the fall from there eco. showing it was a deep fall. and knwo it wasn't on a mountain. it was a hole in the ground. so load knows how deep it was. and hitting water after anything more then a 46 metres fall and hitting water is like hitting rock. and even if that was so and they did hit water. and survive.well guess what. it will be freezing cold. hypothermia, and considering the shock zod is already in shock from every bone in his hand being broken. not also forgetting the impact he made with the wall. that alone would of broken his back. meaning he is also paralized. i'm sorry but he is dead. superman killed him. and you can't make up some bullshit excuse of how he lived for the sake of him living.
George Lucas didn't just ruin careers, he destroyed lives.
When he said, "George Lucas, you have a lot to answer for...", I died!! Ha ha
To be fair Superman Returns wasn't THAT bad... I'll still take that movie over Man Of Steel
BradlesMcGee939 it's kind of underwhelming given all the hype and build up, there are some good bits like Ben Affleck's Batman and Jeremy Irons as Alfred but the rest is just a mess
Rob Picken what the fuck happend to dean Cain from the TV series ?
I would have loved to have seen Brandon Routh's "goody two shoes" Superman square off against Affleck's Batman. Honestly
Darks1de Gaming saw him on supergirl once, playing her earth father i think.
yeah i fell like they should have switch that on because Brandon routh is the atom on the wb .
Kevin Spacey is charismatic? Nah he’s always been creepy
That was actually half of the Costner story. Yes Waterworld was an expensive flop but it was followed by the (other) expensive flop 'The Postman'. Two hugely expensive (& long) flops in a row! Hollywood poison.
the Postman was class
ajh90210
But bombed...
Jimboola
still class
By the time Waterworld had been shown on TV, released on video, etc. they actually made money, not sure if the Postman did although it also appeared on TV.
i loved waterworld and postman. didn't care for dances with wolves.
Emm, Mike Myers appeared in "Inglorious Bastards" (2009) a year after "The Love Guru" (2008), then "Shrek Forever After" (2010), that followed by SNL appearences and Shrek shorts and here we are in 2016 he is going to be in Austin Powers 4 and Terminal with Margot Robbie and Simon Pegg. So...not really gone.
He said that he had a small guest role in Inglorious Basterds. but you're right about Shrek 4-ever after. But sadly Austin Powers 4 is kinda stuck in development hell.
Jonah Steinfeld I did not hear about Inglorious Bastards, I stand corrected. But even if AP4 is stuck, Terminal is in post-production. Cheers.
jarenzestigsongs
I didn't think The Love Guru was that terrible, but I might be in the minority.
ScoobaMusic It's garbage compared to Myers's other movies. At best I'd say it's a 6/10.
I liked that movie. Thought it was pretty funny
ScoobaMusic I laughed it wasn't that bad.
Might? Definitely
The Love Guru was offensively racist
I actually liked the league of extraordinary gentlemen
Lloyd developed psychosis?!! Lucas needs to be taken to court for that shit.
You should amend the title to 'film career' since O'Donnell and Routh have pretty good TV careers.
I feel like John Travolta went down due to battlefield Earth was completely forgotten.
He died twice. Even before that he came back with Pulp Fiction. It wouldn't surprise me if we see him again.
I hope not.
He's absolutely useless, and more known for his love of backdoor escapades, and getting sued for sexual harassment.
I wish he'd go away forever..He gives me hebbie geebies..Ugh
You do realise that since battlefield earth, he has made at least 15 well known films and Tv Series, which is probably why he didn't make the list, as most of the other actors didn't have many hits after their flops which were mentioned.
Return of Superman didn't destroy Brandon Routh's career, it made it. He had no film career to destroy, just bit parts. That film exposed him to the world and opened him up to a continuous stream of television genre roles. Being a ringer for Christopher Reeve will only get you so far. There's not but demand for a Deathtrap reboot. (btw, I would totally watch that.) It did allow you to use that related thumbnail though, so good on you.
The Crow destroyed Brandon Lee's career. :(
clone 2k kind of the joke pal. Had he lived it would have been his breakout role
They Killed him duh.
Lol Kevin Spacey survived intact 😂
But Brandon Routh has become a staple of shows such as Arrow (though he's technically left now) and Legends of Tomorrow.
Personally, though I wanted to see him as Superman in "Supergirl" since the dude they got in for that looks completely E.T-weird! It's like his eyes are falling off the side of his face! Heh! Brandon would have been the perfect choice!
Superman Returns may not have been great but it has some of the best Superman scenes of any film. The opening scene of of him saving the space shuttle and plane is thrilling. Then there's the rooftop scene of him walking into minigun fire, then not even flinching from a bullet fired at his eye, which shows his indestructibility.
Brandon is doing great on Legends of Tomorrow ._.
tv heaven!
but not in movies any more!
I cant remember seeing him in something for a long time!
bernhardtsen74 he soon will though after his performance on tv
yes plz!
he has a sooting voice and I hope he rally will up the legends as if he cant who will!
Which companies own these clips and images again?
#1:Hulk Hogan
I know he wasn't a actor calm down
Oh he wasn't an actor, but he most certainly was in movies.
Hull Cogan's movie career was DOA.
RollandDynasty wasn't he in the seaquineriners?
The Hulkster is supposedly going to show up in the next Expendables movie.
I LOVED WATER WORLD! That was literally a childhood favourite. True it only recently made its money back but...still enjoyable premise. And acting wise it was good
I liked Waterworld. It was a decent film with a pretty cool premise. It was cheesy, but fun.
Loving the whimsical music mixed with tales of peoples shortcomings.
to be fair, I don't think Elizabeth Berkley wasn't going to have much of a career anyway. the only one u really had hopes for out of the Saved by the Bell crew was Gosselar.
bfan82 what about Mario Lopez??
I thought the guys on Saved by the Bell were the most popular.
***** honestly, I didn't see him being more than AC Slater
Funny enough, none of the guys in the series ever did anything major...
just had a thought: only career any of them had (except Gosselar) after the show had them have to be overly sexual lol
i love that routh is playing atom these days, perfect role for him
Halle Berry is fine.
I agree where's Sharon Stone on the list that's the one who ruined the movie
Yeah, and Gothika was a great movie and she was great recently in tv series Extant
She appeared in 3 X-men movies after Catwoman as a main character. I think she did alright.
Totally Agree.
Catwoman wasn't a good movie, yet she's still my second favourite Catwoman
Yeah, Superman movies have been so bad that I didn't even realize they switched actors.
Brandon routh is not the atom in legends of tomorrow his career isn't dead
why did you put "not" in the sentence?
accident, didn't even notice
Captain Deadpool s yeah and was in Scott pilgrim versus the world this list is full of Inacuracies
steve Morgan experience true guess their research was limited
I actually feel sorry for Jake Lloyd and Hayden Christensen. They were simply doing what they were told. It was Lucas who wrote the lines and directed them. And he had both the money for reshoots and the technology to digitally improve their performances, if it came to that.
Why is it the actors that suffer these consequences and not the directors, scriptwriters, producers, etc.? Does anyone have a serious and well-informed answer to this question?
Given that the actors are simply there doing what the higher-ups (e.g. director) is directing them to do based on the scripts they're given, it just makes no sense to me that the actors are those that take the fall when a movie bombs.
It's simple - the actors are the ones we pay to see. And in many cases, we - as in the audience - have no idea WHO the director is, who the producers are, the scriptwriters, etc. Can you name the director, scriptwriter, and producer for Catwoman? I sure as heck can't, but I know Halle Berry and Sharon Stone could have done a hell of a lot better things with their time. With that said, Halle did get some redemption with her fabulous Razzie acceptance speech, while holding her Oscar in the other hand. She's in Kevin Hart's new movie, so hoping that will utilize her comedy chops.
But back to the above - the only time I can think of a director getting the blame for something was Zach Snyder's near ruin of the X-Men franchise. It took Brian Singer coming back to put everything back together again. And with that said, I ABSOLUTELY will blame Michael Bay for the ruining of beloved kids' TV classics like Transformers and TMNT, however because China and the US refuse to stop giving this man movie, it doesn't matter how many things he ruins, we'll just let him continue ruining things.
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But even if we can't name directors from memory, much less scriptwriters, the actors are simply not responsible for coming up with the contents of a movie, so it seems rather unfair for us as an audience to "blame the actors"; even if you get a good actor, if you give them a bad movie, things won't end well.
ray True, but you asked why actors are the ones who suffer and that's why. I'm not saying that screenwriters don't suffer - I'm sure the biggest flops in history or those movies that were only big for the summer also don't find work, but still.
I don't go to a movie to see a screenwriter (despite being a writer myself) and I don't go based on a director (though it depends on the director), I go to the movies to see an actor in a movie that I find interesting enough to spend money on.
I mean, be honest - did you go see Star Wars because George Lucas was behind it (or rather, not behind it) or did you see it cause it was Star Wars? Yes, this trilogy gets a huge bump and pass because the writer from the original trilogy was writing I believe Ep 7 and 8 (and Lucas wasn't going to touch anything that would turn it into the prequels).
Star Wars is probably not a good example, but the point being is still actors are the people you go to see. If it's something like Star Wars or Star Trek, then yes, for fans we can look past that. I mean, remember the whole lens flare thing against JJ Abrams?
Kevin Spacey emerged unscathed with an ongoing career after Superman Returns. Fast forward one year later.......
are the script writers, producers, and directors which should be blamed the most? The actors just do what they told to do...
Von Chacal That would be a dream come true. Actors are divas. Try being a screenwriter and "telling an actor what to do" and you'll see hell on earth.
Yeah, it's well known that actors just turn up on set whenever they like; choose if they star in a film and which character they play; ignore the script and invent their own lines as they go; direct themselves an ignore whatever the director tells them; wear what they like because the wardrobe department doesn't exist; and dictate how a scene is filmed because they know more than the cameraman or DoP... :/
thecryingpanda Yeah if the actor/actress act like that they deserved to be fired or never again to be invited for the next project...but most of these projects failed because of bad story line, like Godfather part III or live action Avatar aang series. People know it's not entirely the casts's fault
Sometimes it really IS the directors and writers. I mean just look at "Star Wars: The Phantom Menace" it had Keira Knightley, Natalie Portman, Samuel L Jackson, Ewan McGregor, AND Liam Neeson. That is a pretty beefy cast in terms of star power AND great acting. But George Lucas basically castrated them of their acting ability as a director. That, mixed with a terrible paced, boring, plot hole riddled script and sometimes no amount of star power can save it
L8 Valentine Yeah; when you have as much proven talent as there was in the Phantom Menace, all turning in pedestrian, uninspiring, soulless, unemotional performances, it is either a mass coincidence that they all forgot how to successfully do their jobs at the same time, or it was down to the director.
Lucas was at fault.
Keven Costner won an Emmy for Hatfields and McCoys about three years ago. He may have not done movies but his career in not over.
But his marriage that was in big trouble.
Dude Connery is 80 years old he retired what about Eastwood after his dark 30 fiasco just perhaps he should retire instead...
Chris O'Donnell? Admittedly he doesn't really do movies anymore but NCIS: Los Angeles is one great show!
I dont know why people rag on Waterworld. that movie was good.
Actually it was crap. It was a bad attempt to make the Road Warrior on water. It was an environmental message in an action film. Not a good mix.
Like in politics, the voice of the majority rules, if people simply don't go and watch the movie or buy the DVD then the movie becomes a Box Office Buster meaning that the producers are loosing money instead of earning it, Waterworld made a small profit.
I liked Kevin Costner performance at that movie but Dennis Hopper as the Deacon was dreadful in my humble opinion.
It wasn't that bad. Saw it in theatres. Own the vhs, dvd s.e. now I still need to get the bluray. Movie is fine if you like post apocalyptic movies.
Superman Returns is still the best Superman film of the last decade
I liked superman returns :/
Yeah, it's not that bad, really. It's just kind of confusing if you don't know the weird chronology with the other movies.
Brandon Routh was in Scott Pilgrim vs. the World which came out 4 years after superman returns and he was amazing in that movie. That movies is also on of the best movies ever made.
"She dusts" - Brandon Routh
I think the phrase "George Lucas, you've got a lot to answer for..." will stay on people's lips for decades to come!
Warren Beatty sure made a comeback back into the publics eye! Lol
Jake Lloyd would make a great Anakin Skywalker as an adult. I mean, just look at his mugshot. Doesn't that scream pissed off Jedi?
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He screams rejected Breaking Bad extra.
That would also work.
No one hated the existence of Superman Returns more then me. But Routh has managed to do far more since it then before. Literally my skepticism at the time was because he had done nothing. Now he's managed to impress me at Ray Palmer.
ADAM YES
Wtf bro!!! Why did u put thumbnail of Brandon Routh? He is in Legends of tomorrow and doing great😒
Superman Returns is the best Superman movie so far.
Routh seems pretty happy with his TV superhero role in the DC TV universe. Lol
The character of Ray Palmer fits him much better, I think. 😁👍🏻
It's actually hard to fathom how much of a sh*tty director George Lucas has become. He used to be a god among Hollywood directors. He has become an honestly _bad_ film director. Just an outright bad director.
The Star Wars prequel trilogy was plagued with poor writing, poor characterization (which is part of poor writing, but I wanted to bring that up separately) and poor acting. All of these are things that a good director would see, catch and fix. A good director would read the script, see that it's poor, and demand fixes. A good director would notice bad acting, find the cause (because it's not _always_ the actor him or herself who is to blame) and do whatever he can to fix it. A good director would notice that the movie as a whole has something wrong with it, and fix it; preferably as soon during the production as possible, to decrease costs.
Not only did not Lucas not fix these things, there is evidence that he actually _ignored_ people who were advising him during the production of the movies and telling him about the problems. I think he should have listened to them.
On top of that, Lucas has been adamant about butchering the original Star Wars movies, and refusing to release the high-quality unmodified copies of the originals. It's like he's ashamed of the original work he did, and is stubborningly refusing to let anybody see them, and doing his best to erase the original unmodified films from history. Which is a really shitty thing to do, really, because the original films are important in the history of cinematography and the history of popular culture. He is doing a disservice to our modern cultural history.
prequels were cool. Star Wars with Kaylo Ren is bullshit
Gotta love a narrator who lambasts the audience for not remembering the ultra-famous Warren Beatty...while pronouncing his name wrong