Mamiya 7 vs Plaubel Makina 67
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ย. 2024
- George is rejoined by Dan Rubin to swap out their favourite cameras, a Mamiya 7 and a Makina 67 to give them a good test.
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Didn't know the Makina had a brass body, I always assumed it was a really light, plastic body just from seeing photos of it. Another rad episode, fellas.
I didn't either until I held one, instantly made me want one so much more, feels so well made. Thanks man!
Would love to see a Matt Day and Negative Feedback collab
Alex Rodriguez Yess!! Looking forward to you guys' collab!
No, the Makina feels like a tank. A super solid feel. Funny how the looks can deceive :-)
Nowadays when I'm taking photos in the streets, sometimes the music in these videos automatically play in my head.
Nowadays when I'm taking photos anywhere the music in these videos automatically play in my head. Nowadays when I'm doing anything the music in these videos automatically play in my head.
This channel inspired me to shoot film and I am so happy you guys are making these videos. Keep it up.
Would definitely like to see in depth review of the cameras.
Self-correction: The camera was manufactured by a Japanese company who bought the rights to the (German) Plaubel name. 👌🏼
Yes, it was manufactured by Mamiya, except for the folding lens mechanism which was Plaubel, and for the lens itself which was Nikon. That folding mechanism was/is no small feat. The recent and very modern folding medium format camera Voigtlaender Bessa III is _still_ larger than the Plaubel.
Kind of like how Voigtlander is now actually just a brand of Cosina?
little off topic, but what jacket are you wearing mate ?
did you prefer the Mamiya over the Plaubel?
JanPBtest it wasn’t manufactured by Mamiya initially, though. The design came from a German professor and the production was always in Japan, but Mamiya only took over when production became too complicated. The lens is obviously Nikon. And the Camera was serviced by Plaubel in Germany up until 2016, now only half a dozen people in the world actually have parts, which is a real pain.
The two best médium format rangefinders ever, thanks again for amazing videos all the time.
I bought a Mamiya 6 a few years ago after testing every camera under the sun. Love that camera and always wanted a mamiya 7 because... well i am greedy. really enjoying the channel guys .
I would love to see a full review of both cameras.
The Makina 670 was actually made by Mamiya (you can tell the film spool holders look the same as on Mamiya 7, also the traditional Mamiya slightly rounded film frame corners are in the Plaubel as well). The double-wind was introduced in the 670 model as the single-wind 67 model had problems with users who were a bit rough: the single stroke winding gear ratio was simply too high. One thing about the Plaubel is that its lens has a _fantastic_ bokeh. I’ve never seen it anywhere else, it’s just pure silk, astonishing. Another interesting bit about the Plaubel is that its light meter is FAPP a _spot_ meter, less than 10 degrees. Obviously the camera was not geared to a casual user. Whenever I shoot with it, I always point it to what looks like the proverbial “18% gray”, like a shadow, and calibrate off that. Once you get used to it and know where to find your 18% gray, the photos are right on the nose, the meter is very accurate. Mamiya 7 is great too, I like its automatic mode, the quietness, and the best part for me is its 43mm lens. It’s one of the _best_ lenses EVER MADE, by any manufacturer, for any camera, in any format. Yes, it’s that good. It’s a very famous design featuring almost zero distortion: the original 10-element Biogon designed by Dr. Ludwig Bertele while working for Hans Wild and Carl Zeiss. The silly irony is that the _name_ “Biogon” is a trademark owned by someone else (Hasselblad), so Mamiya cannot use it to describe this lens. And on top of that, the lens made by Hasselblad which calls itself “Biogon” is _not_ Bertele’s design but a simplified 8-element affair. So kudos to Mamiya for going the extra mile by going back to Bertele’s original patent, and manufacturing it despite its higher complication and cost. (The design itself is public domain, mercifully.) Oh, yes, I loved your video! :-)
you are an incredible photographer and i love rewatching your videos
Great shots, George and Dan. Can't wait for the 'zine (don't like the word, but am gonna love the product, I'm sure!). Almost forgot to back it on Kickstarter, so have just done so now.
Nice to see Dan Rubin on here. Been following his stuff for years!
Another great video guys! Im swaying towards the Mamiya....
Really like Dan's pictures
Oh yes proper review of the Mamiya 7 definitely! please... you guys are awesome. Just recently move here in Germany and I am super hyped and inspired on all the photo ops I'll be doing with my film cameras!
fabulously done once again
GAS hits me every time I hear Plaubel Makina. Great video
I always enjoy your videos
woah, I swear to god the photos get better with every episode!! I like the photo at 4:34 the best
I really love the look of that Plaubel!
Old Cameras Looks like an Agfa Optima Sensor on steroids.
In a good way though
Yes!! Review of makina 67 pls!!
Another great video, and its always good to see Dan and George make an appearance. Would love to see an in depth video of those two cameras, I've always been intrigued by the medium format rangefinders, particularly the Plaubel. And they are quite pricey! A decent example will run you anywhere from $1300 - $2000 US for the "standard" version ( Makina 67) and the wide model (67W) even more. And the Mamiya 7 is not far behind. As your video shows however both take beautiful photographs and you're not likely to go wrong with either.
Wow I recently got myself a Mamiya 7II with the 43mm and 80mm lenses and was literally just thinking about how it compares to the Plaubel Makina 67. Looking forward to the more in depth reviews and keep up the good work!
Drooling for those reviews. Hope you can bring them soon.
Killer episode and some really great photos. Need to get back on my 6x7 game.
please do the review!! your videos are amazing, definitely my favorite photography chanel on yt
All your videos are so pleasing to watch. And I'd love to see an in depth review of these cameras
The photos taken in this video are some of my favourites I've seen on your channel.
This channel makes me wanna try HP5 on my M2 and my Hasselblad.
Give it a go! It's definitely my favourite black and white film, crazily versatile.
Will do, thanks! Do you always prefer shooting it at 1600? And if so, do you get it developed at 1600 or box speed? Cheers
Most of the time I push it to 800, it just depends on how dark it is, this was quite late on in the day. But with black and white film I always develop it at the speed that I shoot it.
Would love to see a full review of both of them. And by the way, your photos with people are much nicer than your architectural shots (in my opinion).
Well done. Lot's of information on two great film cameras in just over seven minutes!
So good! This should haVe been feature film length.
annnnnnnddd now i want both cameras
I swear each episode this show gets better! Keep it up boys :)
yes, pls do the in depth review
So damn good every single time. Nice work!
Very cool stuff; thanks for the comparisons. I dig those pictures as well, guys.
I really like this channel. Just happened on it whilst looking at various other filmies. Looking forward to more content. Keep it up
And you've got Matt Day watching, so you guys are obviously doing something right! :)
Great video guys, thank you! I would love to see a in-depth review of both cameras.
I used to own a Mamyia 7 with 65mm and 150mm lens. I loved working with both of them. I lost a lot of my interest in photography after selling it and going digital 35mm. There is something magical about medium format.
Medium format is simply magical. Amazing episode, as always (:
Just watched all your videos these days, I reeeeeeeally like this channel,and thank you for the inspiration :D
Keep it up!
Very much like to see an in depth review.
amazing videos as always you guys never disappoint
Super sick videos man!!! cant wait for more!!!
Really nice video guys! I saw you made a review about the Mamiya. A review on the Makina could be really nice too :) you just gained a new sub! Keep up the good work!
I'd definitely appreciate a review/overview of the Mamiya 7. I'm looking to get into medium format and that looks like one of the better options for preserving the portability of 35mm cameras. From what I've read it definitely sounds like it has some quirks, so it would be great to get your take on it. That aside, great video! This is by far one of my favorite channels. Keep it up!
Exactly what I need to see!
Great episode guys! It would be awesome to see the in-depth review of both cameras!
I'm a bit late to the party, but I'm currently trying to decide which to purchase. In-depth reviews of both would be really useful. Keep up the good work.
You should have mounted the 80 mm Mamiya 7 lens, onto the camera,
then it would've been like testing apples vs. apples !
The ability to use a 43 mm Mamiya 7 TRUE WIDE Angle lens,
makes the Mamiya 7 a better buy !
And by using a #8 filter on the front, it would help you get more tones, especially since you are losing
gray tones, due to the pushing of the film to 1600 ISO.
As soon as you drop a video I always watch it right away. I really hope my new card comes in the mail so I can get the first issue of zine. I recently started shooting with film on a Pentax k1000 but now I already want a medium format camera. Hopefully I can get my hands on one soon. Love your channel. Bless up
New video on my birthday. Sweet
I like the Mamiya 7's photos better than the Makina 67. Another great episode guys. Wish to be able to photowalk with you guys in the future. Cheers and Happy Shooting!
George looks like Matt Healy. another amazing video!
vintage camera reviews are always nice haha
Please do a review in depth about Plaubel Makina 67 .. dont have much to see ơn TH-cam about makina 67 :)
Loving that shot at 4:09
Joshua Phrakhun the texture on the ground looks really cool, and the tree leaves still dominant even they're not in color
Great video as always
Keep it up!
What camera has Harry got in this video, anyone know?
Thanks for the video. I think it would be better if you'd showed more detailed OPERATIONS of both cameras. Is the Makina weird to focus with the focus knob surrounding the release? How about the meters? Is the Makina center-weighted and is that usable in more spot-like metering scenarios? As you can tell... I'm considering buying one. Thanks
That Plaubel is fire!!
I'll keep up my marketing campaign for the fujifilm gf670. :) Just as compact as the Makina and has a nice meter and can go 6x6 or 6x7.
kb5ql I used to want one SO bad... until I held one and realized it feels insanely flimsy :/
Agreed. My concern with going all in on a Makina is the age of the camera.
kb5ql I have two and they're both solid - I'm happier with them being fully mechanical as there are no electronics to break (the light meter is independent from the rest of the camera, so even if it goes you still have a working camera). My sights are set on the wide model next...
Think i saw both versions at K&M when I was there last.
instagram.com/p/BMc-tO6hOkq/?taken-by=bicyclelad
They both looked so good, I have the mamiya rb67 but obviously not as portable as these two hahaha Love your videos btw
That Makina 670 is such a beautiful camera! but its impossible to find in the UK at reasonable price. So settled for a GF670
in depth review of both cameras please :D
I want to try Papaya fruit one day
Amazing material as usual! Would be great to see more cameras comparison and reviews. By the way, would be nice to make some videos with cheap cameras to inspire people to play around with film. Thank you guy! Cheers
Nice video! Hope to see the in depth review of the Plaubel Makina ;) Thanks!
Mamiya all the way, but both are great cameras!
You should do an episode on half-frame 35mm cameras! I just got my hands on one and it's definitely interesting to work with. Another solid episode, keep them coming!
good work!
I would really love to see you do an episode on toy cameras
When you say you shoot it at 1600, does it mean you set the ISO on your camera to 1600 and put the 400 ISO film in the camera? Thanks for your advice :) sorry for my silly question.
b bayek You meter like it was a 1600 ISO film and then develop it as a 1600 ISO film (push it 2 stops).
b bayek that's correct, you are shooting the 400 speed film at 1600 and developing at 1600. Not a silly question btw
Thank you! :)
Great work as always guys! I use a Mamiya 7II with the 80mm lens and absolutely love the combo. I have always wanted to give the Plaubel Makina a shot though due to its wider aperture but I imagine hitting focus must be tough at close range at 2.8. Is there a big difference in the brightness/contrast of the rangefinder patch on the Makina vs the Mamiya? Would love to see an in-depth review of these cameras. Thanks!
Lovely as always! Greetings from Indonesia! I've been shooting 35mm since long ago. After watching your weekly videos, now I really want to get my hands on a 120mm. Would you do an intro video about 120mm? Maybe more to 35mm vs 120mm (differences and technicals too). And also recommendations for which camera would be a good choice for a beginner in the 120mm field. Thanks!
yes please the review would be fine. I love watching your work! Saw every episode, go forward doing great content!
Definitely interested in reviews of either camera. Did you get your Mamiya repaired? Wasn't the light meter off in another video?
I did! It turned out that it was a problem with the lens as opposed to the body so it was only £80 to fix as opposed to the initial £400 quote
The Plaubel Makina 67 has piqued my interest, thanks guys!
Where can I get the zine? Also just started subscribing. Like your approach to photography and your videos. Not very technical or overly info related. But good reviews and enjoyable photography.
Great videos! Will you consider doing a comparison of different analogue point and shoots?
im here for negative feedback
Love the vids man, can you do a video on stereoscopic photography? with the nimslo 3d for example?
i love the videos. could you possibly make a video for night shots?
W67 Is it best.Very sharp
Review of both cameras please!
Nice vids guys! How many stops did you push? I know 2 stops would be normal, but HP5 has so much latitude...
What about the RF focusing? Is is difficult with the soft-edged patch in the Makina? I had a Mamiya 7 and shoot M6 RFs, but heard the Makina RF patch's soft Edge is hard to focus quickly. I want the Malina for the speed of the lens and ability to collapse for portability. I shoot portraits on the street...thanks, Ric Savid
Is it just me or do the vertical's look like a different aspect ratio?
A review of the two cameras would be great !
love your content as always
cool
How do you deal with the cold temperature affecting the camera? I shot with a Canon AE-1 in college and in cold (Michigan) weather it would always lock up? (something to do with the viscosity of the oil lubricant on the micro mechanical parts, I assume) I could always put it under my coat for a few minutes and get a few more shots out of it, but when I was shooting with models/clients in the cold, the downtime really killed the energy of the shoot.
With Mamiya 7’s at around $3,400 in eBay, it feels like a costly gamble to get into that game
i always enjoy your videos. but why do underexpose and push process?
i read some comments so nevermind my question, the tones on these images are sweet as btw, good work, cheers.
can u review rolleiflex vs mamiya plase 555
6x7 power!!
all of your videos have a sort of filter thing, do you edit it or is it like the camera or the lighting?? theyve always got like a cool bluish filter
I'm so F***ing envying
4:35 is nice! ... sharpness is a bourgeois concept
;-)
I don't know anything about camera's. But I do know a lot about photos! And I've been looking for a camera that gives me the vintage effect. That 90's effect ya know? I would like a camera that's easy to handle because I'm not a photographer, so something easy, and just shoots high quality photos with a very vintage/80's/90's effect! What would you recommend?
Go to a pawn shop or salvation army and buy a 90's point and shoot for $5. That should do the trick. :)