Enjoy your takes. Your reviews are always a great reference. I had an S12, enjoyed them but nozzles were just a bit too short, and sonically they had a bit too much stylized sizzle. Thankfully, found the P1 Max - just perefect, glad you enjoy as well.
Thanks for the review. The actual situation of the ChiFi is in a very delicate position in my opinion. Right now as customers we're getting exceptional values with IEM under 150 dollars to such a point there's almost no incentive to spend anymore than that and since ChiFi companies need to obtain a certain sales volumes in all of their price range of their products to make a profit, I wonder in the long term if they're not driving themselves to the ground?
There were a lot of planars - but in the end there were S12 and P1 Max. After long comparison, the S12s were sold - Panda is much smoother and sound can be adjusted with different tips. In S12, the cymbal is always in the foreground, and the vocals are always in the background (with Panda they sound at the same level). And with the S12 it is impossible to correct the sound with tips - since the lower high frequencies are very bright and you have to listen with the narrowest tipes of the Final type (3.2-3.7 mm).
I think I'll wait out this current generation of planars and go for other unique things. I have five of the previous planars, the Dioko, S12, Timeless OG & AE and Hook X and so far none of these seem to bring something worth more. Thanks Akros.
You have an excellent selection so I sort of understand your reluctance. Hook X was an excellent Planar as was the Timeless AE. AE was plagued with the same problem as S15..... price was hard to justify. Dioko of the above selection is the blandest one, but I get why you would select it. I think the MP145 would probably be the most sensible choice was I to choose one, but again I see why you want to wait and see. If however you have the opportunity.....listen the S15 and MP145.
Glad to see the Wu Zetian here, sadly it seems you can't really buy it any more. It's so meaty and warm sounding, I love mine and it fits me really well.
If price is no concern then S15 for smaller size, but for value MP145. When I am wearing my Hidizs the size of the earphone is not a concern for me. Good review.
Thanks Akros! I'm looking for something with solid, punchy bass for electronic music. Do you think mp145 is the one to go or would you choose other iem? It doesn't have to be planar. Price 300 bucks tops.
I just decided to buy the MP145 after long search and demo listening. Thank you for your descriptions! What dac/amp under 150€ would you suggest to pair with MP145? I had Dragonfly Blue and sold it, because I felt claustrophobic with it's sound ambience. I'm trying to understand which dac sounds more open and sunny.
S15 graph nearly identical to P1 Max from what I've seen so far. I'm sure S15 is good and maybe a tiny improvement, but I just can't see the justification to spend $315 for V2 of P1 Max. From my experience listening to 7 planar iems, they are just slight revisions and side grades to each other.
Excellent review.What is for you the best lush ,musical planar model with sweet highs and upper mids between all of them?(i'm treble sensitive and i'm suffering from tinnitus and i like to try the planar technology).Thanks
Thanks for this review. Have you had a chance to listen to the hey-day? which seems to be a retuned wu zetian? I wonder how that one stands besides these two reviewees. I also wonder how the F1 pro you reviewed this week and gave your best overall of that group, would stand beside these two beasts, cause honestly those F1 shells are a beauty and very comparable in terms of price to hidizs 145. Cheers Tony
Thanks for the video Akros! I still think that the S12/S12 Pro is still a top pick for $150. in reference to the dongles that you use with the nx7. Between the shio and the cda m1p, which one do you recommend? I have the shio that they sell to me for $40
Just finished this vid, and the other planar comparison you posted. How does the bass quality compare between the mp145 and the simgot ea1000? The iem rush seems to be calming down, so best in each category at 200 dollars or under might be a good idea. I have a feeling that those two sets would make it into that video, along with the Chopin. I don't know what all ba set you'd go for, those seem to get good at higher price points
Thanks for the review. Letshuoer has lost me with their price. At $315 compared to other choices in the market, I think they priced themselves out. The look and cheap accessories make it even more difficult to justify.
Agree on the look and accessories, but at some point better versions of already good planars need to come out. Cant have every planar be a $100-$250 IEM. Idk if the S15 are the ones to call a straight upgrade, i havent heard them, but gotta let brands try and improve. Theres a lot of people who are willing to pay about $500 or less if the product is genuinely great, cant just neglect those From this review alone, it seems like they arent quite that straight upgrade described though. Paying $200 extra for a marginally/debatably better IEM in this price bracket, thats uglier, makes no sense.
@residentzerothey aren’t really heavy though. Ikko oh10 or moondrop kato are heavy. I think mp145 is about as heavy as the s12 pro. Now big, yeah they fill the entire ear lol. Luckily they are super comfy for my ears, even with the weird earhook that needs to be a bit smaller.
Would it be worth upgrading to the MP145 from 7Hz Timeless? I currently use a Questyle M15 dongle DAC/amp, 4.4mm output & my phone as source, but I am considering upgrading the DAC/amp to an xDuoo XD05 Pro with Sparkos SS3602 opamps and addon AKM DAC card, as well.
@residentzero I'm currently trying to decide on an upgrade from the original Timeless to either the MP145 or 7Hz's new Timeless II. I have big ears so the size doesn't bother me.
@@akros9333 that's too bad it's a very different planar very interesting..a rather enjoyable set. would it be any different if someone was to just mail you one to try out?
HI Arkos, could you please explain why do you use headphones amplifier? Does 240 mW balanced output is not enough for such earphones? Does ru7 do better with 400mw output?
What I am looking for is amplifier headroom.....which margin of power do I have before non linearity and distortion starts to happen. One thing is to use the doogle power with let's say 50% volume ....another is powering it through a NX7 where I'll have it at 25% of it's capacity and obtain the same power. Also by powering it with NX7 it has its own battery so I don't drain the phone, again providing more margin before any sort of clipping and distortion happens with the amplifier. Of course I don't .ax put the NX7 because om some earphones it gets ridiculously loud.
@@akros9333 I've ordered usb c extender to have the external power for phone's dac dongle. Thank you for your answer. To select a proper input source is also very interesting for you viewers.
Naa.. My old skol 1st timeless or zentian wu just unique n the best.. Btw the s15 case is matched colour with the iem bra sumore plastic is less noisey n less weight bra.. Peace!
Just had to point the channel imbalance on your audio. Unfortunately it is really jarring on an other wise very educational video on iems. Your content is great and helped me to understand the nature of the iems under review. A minor tweek and you should hit spot on..
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Subtle flex with the HeadFi notifications 😂
Happy holidays good sir. Thank you for all the reviews and input through the years. On to even more! 🥳
Akros you really know your stuff. IEMs and music
oh wow. these 2 iem are actually giving me hard time for my next purchase. i better watch your whole video! 🙂
Enjoy your takes. Your reviews are always a great reference. I had an S12, enjoyed them but nozzles were just a bit too short, and sonically they had a bit too much stylized sizzle. Thankfully, found the P1 Max - just perefect, glad you enjoy as well.
Merry Christmas TonyTex..!!
I have had the S15 for 3 days, it’s very good. Much better than my S12, with or without EQ.
Thanks for the review. The actual situation of the ChiFi is in a very delicate position in my opinion. Right now as customers we're getting exceptional values with IEM under 150 dollars to such a point there's almost no incentive to spend anymore than that and since ChiFi companies need to obtain a certain sales volumes in all of their price range of their products to make a profit, I wonder in the long term if they're not driving themselves to the ground?
There were a lot of planars - but in the end there were S12 and P1 Max. After long comparison, the S12s were sold - Panda is much smoother and sound can be adjusted with different tips. In S12, the cymbal is always in the foreground, and the vocals are always in the background (with Panda they sound at the same level). And with the S12 it is impossible to correct the sound with tips - since the lower high frequencies are very bright and you have to listen with the narrowest tipes of the Final type (3.2-3.7 mm).
Glad you have seen how magical the P1 Max can be😉
Great video as always. Thanks for the great comparison and detailed information
I think I'll wait out this current generation of planars and go for other unique things. I have five of the previous planars, the Dioko, S12, Timeless OG & AE and Hook X and so far none of these seem to bring something worth more. Thanks Akros.
You have an excellent selection so I sort of understand your reluctance.
Hook X was an excellent Planar as was the Timeless AE.
AE was plagued with the same problem as S15..... price was hard to justify.
Dioko of the above selection is the blandest one, but I get why you would select it.
I think the MP145 would probably be the most sensible choice was I to choose one, but again I see why you want to wait and see.
If however you have the opportunity.....listen the S15 and MP145.
Timeless ae is better than the mp145 IMO, or at least on par. The bass texture on the timeless ae is just great.
Glad to see the Wu Zetian here, sadly it seems you can't really buy it any more. It's so meaty and warm sounding, I love mine and it fits me really well.
It was/us a very nice Planar
Great! Waiting for your f1 pro review!
Fantastic detailed and interesting reviews loved it.
Im loving my mp145 now, its worth to upgrade mp145 to s15? Ist almost twice price at my local market . Thanks in advance!
P1 Max needs power to showcase its full potential. I’m considering an upgrade do you think the MP145 would be a good addition? Thanks
If price is no concern then S15 for smaller size, but for value MP145. When I am wearing my Hidizs the size of the earphone is not a concern for me. Good review.
We want stamps at bottom esp for long videos..
Please Akros we really do.
He's providing a service and at least ask him respectfully. Could you try asking that again without it sounding like a demand?
@@johnhospod5202 it is out of love not demand. Next time will surely include some loving nd respectful words🤗
Thanks Akros! I'm looking for something with solid, punchy bass for electronic music. Do you think mp145 is the one to go or would you choose other iem? It doesn't have to be planar. Price 300 bucks tops.
Great video as usual. I suspect the blue ear tips from Letshuoer are tea cup series from Sonic Memory.
Yes they are.....don't really like them
@@akros9333 don’t really fit me either. Too bad.
Hi! Which one has better overall "techincallities"?
It's a pity the shape and big size of MP145, otherwise I would give it a chance. Merry Christmas, Akros!
I just decided to buy the MP145 after long search and demo listening. Thank you for your descriptions!
What dac/amp under 150€ would you suggest to pair with MP145? I had Dragonfly Blue and sold it, because I felt claustrophobic with it's sound ambience. I'm trying to understand which dac sounds more open and sunny.
S12, P1MAX, and Stellaris are my top 3 planar iems, and it's very sad that lately planars has gone down the bass head route.
Thank you
S15 graph nearly identical to P1 Max from what I've seen so far. I'm sure S15 is good and maybe a tiny improvement, but I just can't see the justification to spend $315 for V2 of P1 Max. From my experience listening to 7 planar iems, they are just slight revisions and side grades to each other.
Hola Tony, por casualidad probaras el nuevo dongle de shangling UA4?
Excellent review.What is for you the best lush ,musical planar model with sweet highs and upper mids between all of them?(i'm treble sensitive and i'm suffering from tinnitus and i like to try the planar technology).Thanks
Thanks for this review. Have you had a chance to listen to the hey-day? which seems to be a retuned wu zetian? I wonder how that one stands besides these two reviewees. I also wonder how the F1 pro you reviewed this week and gave your best overall of that group, would stand beside these two beasts, cause honestly those F1 shells are a beauty and very comparable in terms of price to hidizs 145. Cheers Tony
I'll make that comparison.👌😉
If i can get MP145 and Performer 8 for the same price, what should i choose?
Thanks for the video Akros! I still think that the S12/S12 Pro is still a top pick for $150. in reference to the dongles that you use with the nx7. Between the shio and the cda m1p, which one do you recommend? I have the shio that they sell to me for $40
I have the q15 what spirits are you using with mo145?
Hey Tony, I asked Letshuoer, the module is unique to the S15.. each version has to be tuned for the exact driver config.
Can't hear you no audio..Are you not having Christmas dinner akros?😅Nice one!Thanks.
Audio is working ....not sure what happened!
It is now.Cheers.
I am still waiting for the s15😊
Have you tried the nicehck f1 pro?
I ordered hidizs mp145. let's see how it will sound compared to my trn kirin and p1 max and pr2.
You will like it very much.....P1 Max is amazing , Kirin is not bad with good fit and tip and PR2 is works on not set
@@akros9333thanks 😊
Just finished this vid, and the other planar comparison you posted. How does the bass quality compare between the mp145 and the simgot ea1000? The iem rush seems to be calming down, so best in each category at 200 dollars or under might be a good idea. I have a feeling that those two sets would make it into that video, along with the Chopin. I don't know what all ba set you'd go for, those seem to get good at higher price points
abt the same, no one lacking in bass area
for sub 2k hmm, i suggest ie900 if you have no other preferences other than bass
Thanks for the review. Letshuoer has lost me with their price. At $315 compared to other choices in the market, I think they priced themselves out. The look and cheap accessories make it even more difficult to justify.
Agree on the look and accessories, but at some point better versions of already good planars need to come out. Cant have every planar be a $100-$250 IEM. Idk if the S15 are the ones to call a straight upgrade, i havent heard them, but gotta let brands try and improve. Theres a lot of people who are willing to pay about $500 or less if the product is genuinely great, cant just neglect those
From this review alone, it seems like they arent quite that straight upgrade described though. Paying $200 extra for a marginally/debatably better IEM in this price bracket, thats uglier, makes no sense.
@residentzerothey aren’t really heavy though. Ikko oh10 or moondrop kato are heavy. I think mp145 is about as heavy as the s12 pro. Now big, yeah they fill the entire ear lol. Luckily they are super comfy for my ears, even with the weird earhook that needs to be a bit smaller.
The MP145 for half the price of the S15 is a steal if they’re even comparable.
Would it be worth upgrading to the MP145 from 7Hz Timeless? I currently use a Questyle M15 dongle DAC/amp, 4.4mm output & my phone as source, but I am considering upgrading the DAC/amp to an xDuoo XD05 Pro with Sparkos SS3602 opamps and addon AKM DAC card, as well.
@residentzero I'm currently trying to decide on an upgrade from the original Timeless to either the MP145 or 7Hz's new Timeless II. I have big ears so the size doesn't bother me.
Hi have you ever listen to basn mtpro planar?
No.....it is crazy expensive to get it sent to me
@@akros9333 that's too bad it's a very different planar very interesting..a rather enjoyable set. would it be any different if someone was to just mail you one to try out?
Hi! Your top iem under 500€?
why are the T10's not included here, are they that much worse?
No not really. They are basically an s12 pro in a cheaper build but a longer nozzle.
HI Arkos, could you please explain why do you use headphones amplifier? Does 240 mW balanced output is not enough for such earphones? Does ru7 do better with 400mw output?
What I am looking for is amplifier headroom.....which margin of power do I have before non linearity and distortion starts to happen.
One thing is to use the doogle power with let's say 50% volume ....another is powering it through a NX7 where I'll have it at 25% of it's capacity and obtain the same power.
Also by powering it with NX7 it has its own battery so I don't drain the phone, again providing more margin before any sort of clipping and distortion happens with the amplifier.
Of course I don't .ax put the NX7 because om some earphones it gets ridiculously loud.
@@akros9333 I've ordered usb c extender to have the external power for phone's dac dongle. Thank you for your answer. To select a proper input source is also very interesting for you viewers.
So which sound better? S15 or mp145
S15 is slightly betterore.times thanP145
Cheap and ugly looks for $319. S12/pro had amazing value for money. This time now they trying to make fool of us...
Naa.. My old skol 1st timeless or zentian wu just unique n the best.. Btw the s15 case is matched colour with the iem bra sumore plastic is less noisey n less weight bra.. Peace!
Just had to point the channel imbalance on your audio. Unfortunately it is really jarring on an other wise very educational video on iems. Your content is great and helped me to understand the nature of the iems under review. A minor tweek and you should hit spot on..
My apologies for that flaw on my side.
Glad I make up for it by bringing helpful content.
Thank you for the support and feedback
Can always put it in mono mode. Yeah his voice is most prominent in the right, probably the mic.
good to hear that. I thought i have hearing problem or my iem have channel imbalance.
Why my mp145 sounds so dark & muddy?
I ordered the q7 699€ now
help me choose between these
-MP145
-EA1000 FERMAT
-TANCHJIM ORIGIN
-Final - A5000
-performer 5
-Kiwi Ears - Quintet
best under 250$